[Bureau] RE: Message on registration and overpasses

Mon Nov 24 19:37:50 GMT 2003

Dear All,

I really think "the size" is a considerable problem to share overpasses 
taking as "basis" the families:
- in one hand, we have families with 2 or 3 persons or even without active 
members (only with the name), and
- in the other hand, we have "families" with more than 60 persons.

regards,

Olinca

At 12:30 p.m. 24/11/2003 -0800, John R. Gagain Jr. wrote:
>Dear All,
>
>I agree with and support Nick's sentiments below.  Content groups / caucuses
>have been created, re-created, canceled, etc all on an ad-hoc on-going basis
>throughout the WSIS process.  YJ, you mention that these groups have been
>"more active", but I believe you must be clear and state "substantively
>actively" and I dont think that we should say that any one entity has been
>more active or better.  All mechanisms have played their role in an extreme
>effort to collaborate.
>
>Additionally, the "substantively active" has been due to the fact that since
>the very beginning we have established that the CSB would not involve itself
>in substance and to this day, its only involvement in such has been the
>presence of the CT Working Group as an observer on the WSIS Civil Society
>Bureau.  The role of the CSB has proved to be invaluable and increasingly
>served to fill an important role since the Paris Intersessional.  Please do
>not downplay that role due to its mandate and limits on addressing
>substance.
>
>Sincerely,
>John R. Gagain Jr.
>Think-Tanks Focal Point
>WSIS Civil Society Bureau
>j.gagain at funglode.org
>
>
>-----Mensaje original-----
>De: bureau-admin at wsis-cs.org [mailto:bureau-admin at wsis-cs.org]En nombre
>de Nick Moraitis
>Enviado el: Sunday, November 23, 2003 10:23 PM
>Para: bureau at geneva2003.org; bureau at wsis-cs.org
>CC: plenary at wsis-cs.org
>Asunto: [Bureau] RE: Message on registration and overpasses
>
>
>Hi all,
>
>Not terribly fussed on this, but my personal input would be that I
>generally feel like it should be kept simple - with the families
>responsible alone. I don't know what the basis of Caucuses and Working
>Groups is or how new ones are created and recognized by others as
>existing. I do get the impression that they are generally considered
>"content groups".  On the other hand, the definition, role and number of
>actors within the Bureau and the role of the Secretariat seems clearer,
>more logistic-oriented, and more suited to this task - as per the
>descriptions on:
>http://www.wsis-cs.org/cs-overview.html
>
>I suggest that the agreed families (perhaps excluding the Regional
>families) should "enable any civil society entity to find a 'home'" and
>if not the Secretariat should keep some extra passes over for those on a
>first come-first-serve basis who "chose not to associate with some or
>all of the above entities".
>
>Louise, one question - if the youth caucus were to submit a list of
>names for 30 people for the Opening Session to assist with security and
>advance planning, when would be the last date to submit such a list, and
>what possibility would there be to change names? (considering for
>example, any unforseen but probably likely complications with travel and
>visas for a few participants?).
>
>Cheers
>Nick
>Youth Family/Caucus facilitator
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: bureau-request at geneva2003.org
>[mailto:bureau-request at geneva2003.org] On Behalf Of YJ Park
>Sent: November 24, 2003 1:01 AM
>To: bureau at geneva2003.org; bureau at wsis-cs.org
>Cc: plenary at wsis-cs.org
>Subject: Re: Message on registration and overpasses
>
>
>Thank Sean for pointing this out.
>
>As it has been observed in the WSIS civil society process,
>more active partcipation and coordination has been done
>through working groups and caucuses in cooperation with
>CS content and theme group on the volunteer basis.
>
>In principle, CS family structure in the civil society proposed
>by CSD is supposed to play a role of organizer or coordinator
>but most substantial coordination has been made by volunteers
>from civil society plenary so far.
>
>As Sean addressed, it seems more natural for CS working
>groups or caucuses to handle this issue in conjunction with family.
>Therefore, the following proposal sounds more reasonable than
>only family inputs.
>
>Working groups and Caucuses:  27 of these each with 8 = 216
>(assumption that many family members are part of WGs)
>Bureau Families 21 families each with 4 =   84
>Content & Themes group 5
>Total pre allocated:  305
>First comes first served = 295
>
>One more clarification about the number of passes. Technically,
>as requested if 22 family provides 30 members, it is 660. How many
>passes are we talking about here? I thought 295.
>
>YJ
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Sean O Siochru
>To: bureau at geneva2003.org ; bureau at wsis-cs.org
>Cc: plenary at wsis-cs.org
>Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 11:11 PM
>Subject: Re: Message on registration and overpasses
>
>
>Louise
>
>Renata's suggestions of November 6th, developed by a group of us,
>proposed that passes be made available as follows:
>
>Distribution:
>
><Working groups and Caucuses:  27 of these each with 8 = 216 (assumption
>that many family members are part of WGs)
><Bureau Families 21 families each with 4 =   84
><Content & Themes group 5
>
><Total pre allocated:  305
><First comes first served = 295.
>
>Why are families being asked to come with 30 names each?  Why not the
>working groups and caucuses?
>
>Sean
>
>
>At 17:08 21/11/2003 +0100, Louise Lassonde wrote:
>
>
>Dear Bureau members,
>
>Registration
>
>We would like to inform you of the state of registration as of today.
>So far, 3000 Civil Society participants have registered and we expect
>25% more to come in the next weeks;
>1000 governement, we expect at least 2X more to come in the next weeks.
>
>Overpasses
>
>600 overpasses have been allocated to Civil Society and we have
>requested 150 more for the World Electronic Media Forum.
>Renate Bloem (NGO Family) made a proposal on the 6th November on the
>allocation of overpasses.
>In addition, it seems appropriate for the opening ceremony to have a
>name list well in advance for security reasons.  May we ask each family
>to draw up a list of 30 names (in order of priority).
>
>Best regards,
>
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------
>
>
>Cher Membre du Bureau,
>
>
>Enregistrement
>
>Nous aimerions vous informer de létat davancement de lenregistrement
>au jour daujourdhui.
>Pour le moment,3000 participants de la société civile se sont
>enregistrés
>et nous
>prévoyons encore 25% dinscriptions supplémentaires durant les
>prochaines semaines ; 1000 représentants des gouvernements, nous
>prévoyons au moins le double pour les prochaines semaines.
>
>Laissez-passer
>
>
>600 laissez-passer ont été alloués à la société civile et nous en avons
>demandé 150 de plus pour le World Electronic Media Forum.
>Renate a fait une proposition le 6 novembre concernant lallocation des
>laissez-passer.
>De plus, il semble approprié pour louverture de la cérémonie davoir à
>lavance une liste de noms pour des questions de sécurité.
>Pourrions-nous demander à chaque famille de dresser une liste de 30 noms
>
>(par ordre de priorité).
>
>
>
>Meilleures salutations
>
>Savita
>--
>The Secretariat
>Civil Society Division
>World Summit on the Information
>Society
>
>---
>Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.
>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
>Version: 6.0.530 / Virus Database: 325 - Release Date: 22/10/2003
>
>___________________________________________________
>Seán Ó Siochrú  Central office: tel:  +353 1 473 0599 fax: +353 1 473
>0597
>NEXUS Research  Mobile: +353 87 20 48 150
>14 Eaton Brae   Direct office tel: +353 1 272 0739  fax: +353 1 272 0034
>
>Shankill
>Co. Dublin              e-mail: sean at nexus.ie
>Ireland                 Web site: http://www.iol.ie/nexus
>
>
>
>
>---
>Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
>Version: 6.0.530 / Virus Database: 325 - Release Date: 22/10/2003
>
>_______________________________________________
>Bureau mailing list
>Bureau at wsis-cs.org
>http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bureau
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Bureau mailing list
>Bureau at wsis-cs.org
>http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bureau

LaNeta S.C.
http://www.laneta.apc.org
Información desde las organizaciones civiles en México.

LaNeta S.C. es miembro de la Asociación para el Progreso de las 
Comunicaciones, APC
http://www.apc.org
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/pipermail/bureau/attachments/20031124/ccdc78e5/attachment.htm