[CS Bureau] Re: about communications to/from the Bureau

[Adam Peake]

Sean, thanks for the background.

I was wrong again... confusing stuff this civil society organization!

I'd wondered if there might have been reasons for keeping one bureau 
list as member only -- the geneva2003 list had been used to 
distribute information that some might consider confidential 
(example, about fellowship applications.) And was occasionally used 
for discussing strategy such as which funder to approach, how to 
approach the the next meeting with the govt. Bureau, etc. Things that 
we might not want in an open archive for all the world to see? But 
that was just me wondering why the list had been closed.

Prefer the openness suggestion. If the Bureau does need to discuss 
confidential matters then deal with that when it happens.

I support the suggestion that we move Bureau discussions to 
<bureau at wsis-cs.org>

But I am already co-moderating the plenary list, would prefer not to 
deal with more spam.

Thanks,

Adam



At 10:59 AM +0000 2/18/04, Sean O Siochru wrote:
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>Adam
>
>As I was involved in the set up of the two lists, I can answer. 
>After much delay in setting up a bureau list, the Secretariat and 
>the Bureau members each set one up almost on the same day.  They 
>were both intended as the main list and there is no difference 
>between their uses.
>
>However, one followed the request of the CS plenary to have an open 
>archive <bureau at wsis-cs.org>, in line with the Bureau policy to be 
>fully open to observers (that is still policy, as far as I know). 
>The other <bureau at geneva2003.org> was set up by the Secretariat and 
>does not have an open archive - or I could never find one (though 
>for no bad reason - I think it was just logistical)
>
>Given that the secretariat is also in flux now, but also the need 
>for transparency, I strongly support a full move to the 
>bureau at wsis-cs.org list and closing the other one.  Its name is 
>anyhow out of date!   I do not think a separate list is required to 
>inform Plenary etc. of Bureau meetings, but rather a regular or 
>occasional report (who???), a liaison person who will point to major 
>developments and remind people of the Archive adress now and again. 
>
>For a time I understood that John Gaigan was moderator of the 
><bureau at wsis-cs.org> list (purely administrative, not content) but 
>he told me recently he is not.  I get notices of all the posting but 
>I have not got the password. 
>
>So we need a volunteer for this moderation (it should take up no 
>time at all).  Karen Banks can then arrange for the password since 
>the list is hosted at Greennet. The first job will be to make sure 
>that all bureau members are correctly up to date on it - there may 
>have been some changes.
>
>I think that's right.
>
>Sean
>
>
>At 18:54 18/02/2004 +0900, Adam Peake wrote:
>
>>Hi.
>>
>>Am I correct, this list <bureau at geneva2003.org> is for Bureau 
>>members, it is the working list? Only members may post and the list 
>>is not archived?  (No complaints about the list, I just want to be 
>>clear.)
>>
>>When the Bureau was established another list (open and archived) 
>>was set up, address <bureau at wsis-cs.org>
>>
>><http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/public/bureau/>
>><http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bureau>
>>
>>I believe the intention was to use this second list to provide 
>>information about the Bureau, general matters of interest to civil 
>>society, to take questions and comments, etc. (things like Bureau 
>>meeting dates, anything not really of enough interest for plenary, 
>>but still of general interest that should be shared.)
>>
>>There's some confusion in the Internet Governance caucus about how 
>>to find out what's going on in the Bureau. Could we please start to 
>>use this second list address <bureau at wsis-cs.org> again for 
>>information about meetings, etc.
>>
>>Many thanks,
>>
>>Adam
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