[CS Bureau] Re: about communications to/from the Bureau

Thu Feb 19 03:27:50 GMT 2004

Yes, I suggest we close bureau at geneva2003.org and move to
bureau at wsis-cs.org. The only way to do this properly and reliably is to
ensure that:

1) All the members of the @geneva2003 list are moved to the @wsis-cs.org
list

2) We close the @geneva2003 list altogether so that all messages must go
to the other one and there is no ongoing confusion.

If people are in agreement, I hope those with moderation ability can
liaise to make this happen.

Cheers
Nick
(Youth Caucus)

-----Original Message-----
From: bureau-admin at wsis-cs.org [mailto:bureau-admin at wsis-cs.org] On
Behalf Of Sean O Siochru
Sent: February 18, 2004 5:59 AM
To: bureau at geneva2003.org
Cc: bureau at wsis-cs.org; karen banks
Subject: [CS Bureau] Re: about communications to/from the Bureau

Adam

As I was involved in the set up of the two lists, I can answer.  After
much delay in setting up a bureau list, the Secretariat and the Bureau
members each set one up almost on the same day.  They were both intended
as the main list and there is no difference between their uses.

However, one followed the request of the CS plenary to have an open
archive <bureau at wsis-cs.org>, in line with the Bureau policy to be fully
open to observers (that is still policy, as far as I know).  The other
<bureau at geneva2003.org> was set up by the Secretariat and does not have
an open archive - or I could never find one (though for no bad reason -
I think it was just logistical) 

Given that the secretariat is also in flux now, but also the need for
transparency, I strongly support a full move to the bureau at wsis-cs.org
list and closing the other one.  Its name is anyhow out of date!   I do
not think a separate list is required to inform Plenary etc. of Bureau
meetings, but rather a regular or occasional report (who???), a liaison
person who will point to major developments and remind people of the
Archive adress now and again.  

For a time I understood that John Gaigan was moderator of the
<bureau at wsis-cs.org> list (purely administrative, not content) but he
told me recently he is not.  I get notices of all the posting but I have
not got the password.  

So we need a volunteer for this moderation (it should take up no time at
all).  Karen Banks can then arrange for the password since the list is
hosted at Greennet. The first job will be to make sure that all bureau
members are correctly up to date on it - there may have been some
changes.

I think that's right.

Sean 

At 18:54 18/02/2004 +0900, Adam Peake wrote:

Hi.

Am I correct, this list <bureau at geneva2003.org> is for Bureau members,
it is the working list? Only members may post and the list is not
archived?  (No complaints about the list, I just want to be clear.)

When the Bureau was established another list (open and archived) was set
up, address <bureau at wsis-cs.org>

<http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/public/bureau/>
<http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bureau>

I believe the intention was to use this second list to provide
information about the Bureau, general matters of interest to civil
society, to take questions and comments, etc. (things like Bureau
meeting dates, anything not really of enough interest for plenary, but
still of general interest that should be shared.)

There's some confusion in the Internet Governance caucus about how to
find out what's going on in the Bureau. Could we please start to use
this second list address <bureau at wsis-cs.org> again for information
about meetings, etc.

Many thanks,

Adam
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