[CS Bureau] Speakers and Format of Tunis Summit

Tue Mar 22 17:12:52 GMT 2005

Dear Bertrand

>Francis,
>
>Thanks for the contribution. I know we are all into very 
>tight deadlines. But may I respectfully ask you to read 
>carefully what you quote before jumping in with abrasive 
>comments ? Nowhere was it suggested to "call to the 
>heteroclit association of the CSB, the WGWM, the CT, and 
>the "Strategy Group" to decide on content issues and choice 
>of speakers".
>  
>
All my flat apologies, then please replace
my sentence by

call to the 
heteroclit association of the CSB, the WGWM, the CT, and 
the "Strategy Group" to design a drafting process 
for the CS statements in Tunis.

>The exact formula was : a possible "joint mandate between 
>CSB, WGWM and Content and Themes to design an appropriate 
>drafting process for these statements". TO DESIGN A DRAFTING 
>PROCESS, not to take decisions on the substance ! let alone 
>on speakers. 
>  
>
OK, agreed, but the drafting process is a very important step,
and has an influence on the final content.

>The enumeration was just an attempt to make sure I do not 
>forget any of the groups that are somewhat relevant to the 
>issues I was raising. I was trying to be inclusive,
>
 I salute your inclusive concerns.  The very fact that
you feel the need to quote such an enumeration shows that there
is a need for a better structure.

> without 
>prejudging the appropriate forum to discuss this.
>
>Your CTB proposal may be a way to go; and you suggest 
>yourself that the WGWM should have taken this issue. My only 
>concern is that we do not keep those issues for ... too late.
>  
>
For this, I completely agree with you.  We are running out of time,
and there is a risk that we may get stuck with a fuzzy and
heteroclit structure.
This is true for the whole CS, but also for other groups like the
European CS group.

>So can we move forward without using terms like confusion
>
I think there is an existing confusion,  we should be shy to
tell it,  and I salute your keen
ability to analyze this confusion and develloping an
 analysis and recommendation to get us out of this chaos.

> and 
>address the issues I tried to raise in the complete mail ? 
>  
>
no time to make suggestions on the issues,
, I was just making a comment on a precise procedural
suggestion that struck me. 

>(as you suppressed the rest of the comments, nobody reading 
>your mail can possibley know what this was all about).
> 
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>
I removed text according to the recommandations of the plenary list
not to have too long messages, and also to bring some clarity.
I agree that there  is some risk with that some sentence could
be taken out of context.

Best regards

Francis

>I therefore repeat the initial questions :
>
>Quote :
>
>"""1) About CS speaking slots :
>
>- 12 speakers is indeed a very limited number 
>- designation of the speakers by CS is a welcome evolution - 
>even if we know it is hard. Will there be a formal 
>confirmation ?
>- CS means accredited CS entities to the WSIS process; 
>- speakers are less important than CONTENT ; the question 
>is : what does CS want to say ?
>
>Therefore, there is a key discussion to hold within CS on :
>- what kind of statements it wants to make (general 
>intervention on the process, formal Declaration, 
>announcement, initiative ....?) 
>- on what topics (process, thematic ...)
>- with what consultation and drafting process (this is the 
>most important, and a good opportunity to cristallize the 
>methods presently under discussion)
>
>Consequence : there may be a joint mandate between CSB, WGWM 
>and Content and Themes to design an appropriate drafting 
>process for these statements. Could also be the purpose of 
>the Stategy Group that Ralf was proposing to relaunch.
>
>Similar discussion on the panels. There is a big challenge to 
>avoid the mess we faced in preparing for Geneva. By the way, 
>should not here be a collective effort by civil society to 
>organize a series of events in the parallel conference 
>space ? Each Caucus could for instance organize a roundtable 
>on its own topic and invite actors to participate.
>
>Renate wrote : "The process of identification of CS speakers 
>should ideally be finalized by the end of PrepCom III". Am I 
>right in understanding this as being a deadline for CS to 
>design its process and not a way to say that the WSIS ES will 
>finalize a method for that date ?""""
>
>Best
>
>Bertrand
>
>
>
>
>
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>>Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:36:15 +0100
>>From: "Dr. Francis MUGUET" <muguet at wtis.org>  
>>Subject: Re: [CS Bureau] Speakers and Format of Tunis 
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>Summit  
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>>To: Bertrand de LA CHAPELLE <lachapelle at openwsis.org>
>>Cc: bureau at wsis-cs.org, workingmethods at wsis-cs.org
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>>Hello everybody
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>>I have been too busy recently to read CS mails
>>, just reading this one, by chance.
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>>>Dear all,
>>>
>>>Consequence : there may be a joint mandate between CSB, 
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>WGWM 
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>>>and Content and Themes to design an appropriate drafting 
>>>process for these statements. Could also be the purpose of 
>>>the Stategy Group that Ralf was proposing to relaunch.
>>>
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>>>
>>If the CSB has a clear mandate concerning procedural issues,
>>the call to the heteroclit association of the CSB, the WGWM,
>>the CT, and the "Strategy Group" to decide on content issues
>>and choice of speakers illustrates the growing confusion and
>>the lack of a proper structure.
>>
>>This is why I proposed the formation of a Content & Theme 
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>Bureau
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>>(CTB). When discussing with practical problems,
>>it seems more appropriate than ever.
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>>Best regards
>>
>>Francis
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>>PS since I have no time to read mail
>>recently, I wonder if the the WGWM did consider and analyze 
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>the CTB
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>>proposition
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Knowledge Networks and Information Society
ENSTA
32 Blvd Victor 75739 PARIS cedex FRANCE
Phone: (33)1 45 52 60 19  Fax: (33)1 45 52 52 82
muguet at ensta.fr   http://www.ensta.fr/~muguet

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