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Dear All,<br><br>
I really think "the size" is a considerable problem to share
overpasses taking as "basis" the families:<br>
- in one hand, we have families with 2 or 3 persons or even without
active members (only with the name), and <br>
- in the other hand, we have "families" with more than 60
persons.<br><br>
regards,<br><br>
Olinca<br><br>
<br><br>
<br>
At 12:30 p.m. 24/11/2003 -0800, John R. Gagain Jr. wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Dear All,<br><br>
I agree with and support Nick's sentiments below. Content groups /
caucuses<br>
have been created, re-created, canceled, etc all on an ad-hoc on-going
basis<br>
throughout the WSIS process. YJ, you mention that these groups have
been<br>
"more active", but I believe you must be clear and state
"substantively<br>
actively" and I dont think that we should say that any one entity
has been<br>
more active or better. All mechanisms have played their role in an
extreme<br>
effort to collaborate.<br><br>
Additionally, the "substantively active" has been due to the
fact that since<br>
the very beginning we have established that the CSB would not involve
itself<br>
in substance and to this day, its only involvement in such has been
the<br>
presence of the CT Working Group as an observer on the WSIS Civil
Society<br>
Bureau. The role of the CSB has proved to be invaluable and
increasingly<br>
served to fill an important role since the Paris Intersessional.
Please do<br>
not downplay that role due to its mandate and limits on addressing<br>
substance.<br><br>
Sincerely,<br>
John R. Gagain Jr.<br>
Think-Tanks Focal Point<br>
WSIS Civil Society Bureau<br>
j.gagain@funglode.org<br><br>
<br>
-----Mensaje original-----<br>
De: bureau-admin@wsis-cs.org
[<a href="mailto:bureau-admin@wsis-cs.org" eudora="autourl">mailto:bureau-admin@wsis-cs.org</a>]En
nombre<br>
de Nick Moraitis<br>
Enviado el: Sunday, November 23, 2003 10:23 PM<br>
Para: bureau@geneva2003.org; bureau@wsis-cs.org<br>
CC: plenary@wsis-cs.org<br>
Asunto: [Bureau] RE: Message on registration and overpasses<br><br>
<br>
Hi all,<br><br>
Not terribly fussed on this, but my personal input would be that I<br>
generally feel like it should be kept simple - with the families<br>
responsible alone. I don't know what the basis of Caucuses and
Working<br>
Groups is or how new ones are created and recognized by others as<br>
existing. I do get the impression that they are generally
considered<br>
"content groups". On the other hand, the definition, role
and number of<br>
actors within the Bureau and the role of the Secretariat seems
clearer,<br>
more logistic-oriented, and more suited to this task - as per the<br>
descriptions on:<br>
<a href="http://www.wsis-cs.org/cs-overview.html" eudora="autourl">http://www.wsis-cs.org/cs-overview.html</a><br><br>
I suggest that the agreed families (perhaps excluding the Regional<br>
families) should "enable any civil society entity to find a
'home'" and<br>
if not the Secretariat should keep some extra passes over for those on
a<br>
first come-first-serve basis who "chose not to associate with some
or<br>
all of the above entities".<br><br>
Louise, one question - if the youth caucus were to submit a list of<br>
names for 30 people for the Opening Session to assist with security
and<br>
advance planning, when would be the last date to submit such a list,
and<br>
what possibility would there be to change names? (considering for<br>
example, any unforseen but probably likely complications with travel
and<br>
visas for a few participants?).<br><br>
Cheers<br>
Nick<br>
Youth Family/Caucus facilitator<br><br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: bureau-request@geneva2003.org<br>
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On Behalf Of YJ Park<br>
Sent: November 24, 2003 1:01 AM<br>
To: bureau@geneva2003.org; bureau@wsis-cs.org<br>
Cc: plenary@wsis-cs.org<br>
Subject: Re: Message on registration and overpasses<br><br>
<br>
Thank Sean for pointing this out.<br><br>
As it has been observed in the WSIS civil society process,<br>
more active partcipation and coordination has been done<br>
through working groups and caucuses in cooperation with<br>
CS content and theme group on the volunteer basis.<br><br>
In principle, CS family structure in the civil society proposed<br>
by CSD is supposed to play a role of organizer or coordinator<br>
but most substantial coordination has been made by volunteers<br>
from civil society plenary so far.<br><br>
As Sean addressed, it seems more natural for CS working<br>
groups or caucuses to handle this issue in conjunction with family.<br>
Therefore, the following proposal sounds more reasonable than<br>
only family inputs.<br><br>
Working groups and Caucuses: 27 of these each with 8 = 216<br>
(assumption that many family members are part of WGs)<br>
Bureau Families 21 families each with 4 = 84<br>
Content & Themes group 5<br>
Total pre allocated: 305<br>
First comes first served = 295<br><br>
One more clarification about the number of passes. Technically,<br>
as requested if 22 family provides 30 members, it is 660. How many<br>
passes are we talking about here? I thought 295.<br><br>
YJ<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: Sean O Siochru<br>
To: bureau@geneva2003.org ; bureau@wsis-cs.org<br>
Cc: plenary@wsis-cs.org<br>
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 11:11 PM<br>
Subject: Re: Message on registration and overpasses<br><br>
<br>
Louise<br><br>
Renata's suggestions of November 6th, developed by a group of us,<br>
proposed that passes be made available as follows:<br><br>
Distribution:<br><br>
<Working groups and Caucuses: 27 of these each with 8 = 216
(assumption<br>
that many family members are part of WGs)<br>
<Bureau Families 21 families each with 4 = 84<br>
<Content & Themes group 5<br><br>
<Total pre allocated: 305<br>
<First comes first served = 295.<br><br>
Why are families being asked to come with 30 names each? Why not
the<br>
working groups and caucuses?<br><br>
Sean<br><br>
<br>
At 17:08 21/11/2003 +0100, Louise Lassonde wrote:<br><br>
<br>
Dear Bureau members,<br><br>
Registration<br><br>
We would like to inform you of the state of registration as of
today.<br>
So far, 3000 Civil Society participants have registered and we
expect<br>
25% more to come in the next weeks;<br>
1000 governement, we expect at least 2X more to come in the next
weeks.<br><br>
Overpasses<br><br>
600 overpasses have been allocated to Civil Society and we have<br>
requested 150 more for the World Electronic Media Forum.<br>
Renate Bloem (NGO Family) made a proposal on the 6th November on
the<br>
allocation of overpasses.<br>
In addition, it seems appropriate for the opening ceremony to have
a<br>
name list well in advance for security reasons. May we ask each
family<br>
to draw up a list of 30 names (in order of priority).<br><br>
Best regards,<br><br>
<br><br>
----------------------------------------------------<br><br>
<br>
Cher Membre du Bureau,<br><br>
<br>
Enregistrement<br><br>
Nous aimerions vous informer de létat davancement de
lenregistrement<br>
au jour daujourdhui.<br>
Pour le moment,3000 participants de la société civile se sont<br>
enregistrés<br>
et nous<br>
prévoyons encore 25% dinscriptions supplémentaires durant les<br>
prochaines semaines ; 1000 représentants des gouvernements, nous<br>
prévoyons au moins le double pour les prochaines semaines.<br><br>
Laissez-passer<br><br>
<br>
600 laissez-passer ont été alloués à la société civile et nous en
avons<br>
demandé 150 de plus pour le World Electronic Media Forum.<br>
Renate a fait une proposition le 6 novembre concernant lallocation
des<br>
laissez-passer.<br>
De plus, il semble approprié pour louverture de la cérémonie davoir
à<br>
lavance une liste de noms pour des questions de sécurité.<br>
Pourrions-nous demander à chaque famille de dresser une liste de 30
noms<br><br>
(par ordre de priorité).<br><br>
<br><br>
Meilleures salutations<br><br>
Savita<br>
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