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<div>Sean, thanks for the background.</div>
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<div>I was wrong again... confusing stuff this civil society
organization!</div>
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<div>I'd wondered if there might have been reasons for keeping one
bureau list as member only -- the geneva2003 list had been used to
distribute information that some might consider confidential (example,
about fellowship applications.) And was occasionally used for
discussing strategy such as which funder to approach, how to approach
the the next meeting with the govt. Bureau, etc. Things that we might
not want in an open archive for all the world to see? But that was
just me wondering why the list had been closed.</div>
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<div>Prefer the openness suggestion. If the Bureau does need to
discuss confidential matters then deal with that when it
happens.</div>
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<div>I support the suggestion that we move Bureau discussions to
<bureau@wsis-cs.org> </div>
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<div>But I am already co-moderating the plenary list, would prefer not
to deal with more spam.</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
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<div>Adam</div>
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<div>At 10:59 AM +0000 2/18/04, Sean O Siochru wrote:</div>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>As I was involved in the set up of the
two lists, I can answer. After much delay in setting up a bureau
list, the Secretariat and the Bureau members each set one up almost on
the same day. They were both intended as the main list and there
is no difference between their uses.<br>
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However, one followed the request of the CS plenary to have an open
archive <bureau@wsis-cs.org>, in line with the Bureau policy to
be fully open to observers (that is still policy, as far as I know).
The other <bureau@geneva2003.org> was set up by the Secretariat
and does not have an open archive - or I could never find one (though
for no bad reason - I think it was just logistical)<br>
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Given that the secretariat is also in flux now, but also the need for
transparency,<b> I strongly support a full move to the
bureau@wsis-cs.org list</b> and closing the other one. Its name
is anyhow out of date!<b> </b> I do not think a separate list is
required to inform Plenary etc. of Bureau meetings, but rather a
regular or occasional report (who???), a liaison person who will point
to major developments and remind people of the Archive adress now and
again. <br>
<br>
For a time I understood that John Gaigan was moderator of the
<bureau@wsis-cs.org> list (purely administrative, not content)
but he told me recently he is not. I get notices of all the
posting but I have not got the password. <br>
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<b>So we need a volunteer for this moderation</b> (it should take up
no time at all). Karen Banks can then arrange for the password
since the list is hosted at Greennet.<b> The first job will be to make
sure that all bureau members are correctly up to date on it</b> -
there may have been some changes.<br>
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I think that's right.<br>
<br>
Sean<br>
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At 18:54 18/02/2004 +0900, Adam Peake wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Hi.<br>
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Am I correct, this list <bureau@geneva2003.org> is for Bureau
members, it is the working list? Only members may post and the list is
not archived? (No complaints about the list, I just want to be
clear.)<br>
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When the Bureau was established another list (open and archived) was
set up, address <bureau@wsis-cs.org><br>
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<http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/public/bureau/><br>
<http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bureau><br>
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I believe the intention was to use this second list to provide
information about the Bureau, general matters of interest to civil
society, to take questions and comments, etc. (things like Bureau
meeting dates, anything not really of enough interest for plenary, but
still of general interest that should be shared.)<br>
<br>
There's some confusion in the Internet Governance caucus about how to
find out what's going on in the Bureau. Could we please start to use
this second list address <bureau@wsis-cs.org> again for
information about meetings, etc.<br>
<br>
Many thanks,<br>
<br>
Adam<br>
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