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Dear Philippe<br>
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<pre wrap="">Francis,
There is a big misunderstanding here. Contrary to what you wrote here,
Tracey expressed the wish to continue to serve in the GAID Strategy Council.
See her e-mail attached (she wrote "I do want to remain on the GAID Strategy
Council", which is clear enough).
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Yes, indeed my apologies, I did read too quickly her message, and got<br>
confused with her statement concerning her being accounted as<br>
an African. I will send a correcting statement ASAP to Saburland.<br>
<br>
Many thanks for your vigilance. <br>
<br>
Anyway, I consider that this request to Saburland has been long overdue,<br>
it should have been made a long time ago, and <br>
should not be forced to be made by me in a hasty manner.<br>
So I am ready to accept the blame, but the cause of this blunder is<br>
to be shared.<br>
<br>
This illustrates that procedural matters are important, and shall<br>
not be considered in a too hasty manner, otherwise blunder may occur.<br>
<br>
Francis<br>
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She however said that it would be hard to consider her as African civil
society representative since that she has been involved for quite a time in
a project in Mongolia.
I would be pleased if you could be careful in not speaking on behalf of
others when you address UN Executives. This has nothing to see with the
substance of your message and question to Sarbuland.
I'll come back to the GAID Secretariat to correct your mistaken assertion.
Ph
-----Message d'origine-----
De : <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bureau-bounces@wsis-cs.org">bureau-bounces@wsis-cs.org</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:bureau-bounces@wsis-cs.org">mailto:bureau-bounces@wsis-cs.org</a>] De la
part de Dr. Francis MUGUET
Envoyé : lundi 10 décembre 2007 10:36
À : Sarbuland Khan
Cc : bureau wsis; WSIS Civil Soc. WG on Information Networks Governance
Objet : [CS Bureau] UN-GAID strategy council nomination
Dear Sarbuland
Could you inform the Civil Society Bureau and other interested parties,
who are the departing members of the Civil Society representation at the
UN-GAID strategy council.<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.un-gaid.org/en/council/members"><http://www.un-gaid.org/en/council/members></a>
so that a Civil Society nomination that would try to balance
geopolitical and
gender distribution could be proposed to your kind attention ?
On the list of the WSIS Civil Soc. WG on Information Networks Governance
( WSIS-GOV <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wsis-gov.org">http://wsis-gov.org</a> ) Tracey Naughton has conveyed
that she does not want to remain on the strategy council.
There are also informations, to be confirmed, that Astrid Dufborg and
Kamel Ayadi
are now within governments and are therefore ineligible to stay in the
Civil Society representation at the UN-GAID strategy council.
Best regards
Francis Muguet
CSB member
WSIS-GOV member
PS List
1. Kamel Ayadi, President, World Fed. of Engineering Associations
(Tunisia)
2. Rodrigo Baggio, Executive Director,
Committee for Democracy in Information Technology
(Brazil)
3. Peter Bruck, President, World Summit Award (Austria)
4. Astrid Dufborg, Executive Director, GeSCI
5. Hiroshi Kawamura, Daisy Consortium, (Japan)
6. Janet Longmore, President, Digital Opportunity Trust (Canada)
7. Tracey Naughton, Media Caucus (S. Africa/Australia)
8. AHM Bazlur Rahman, CEO, Bangladesh NGOs
Network for Radio and Communication
9. Lynn St. Amour, President/CEO, Internet Society
10. Lynn M. Wanyeki, Executive Director, FEMNET (Kenya)
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<div class="headerdisplayname" style="display: inline;">From: </div>
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<p><font size="2">Adam</font>
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<p><font size="2">Thanks for your diligence on this matter. Just to
be clear - it can't </font>
<br>
<font size="2">be said anymore that I am an African representative.
Whilst my heart </font>
<br>
<font size="2">and soul remains in the African continent, I am
currently based in </font>
<br>
<font size="2">Mongolia, running an INGO there that uses a variety of
ICTs in </font>
<br>
<font size="2">development efforts. I am immersed in national and
regional (central </font>
<br>
<font size="2">Asia) issues. I do want to remain on the GAID
Strategy Council.</font>
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<p><font size="2">warms regards to all</font>
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<p><font size="2">Tracey Naughton</font>
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<br>
<p><font size="2">On 07/12/2007, at 2:47 PM, Adam Peake wrote:</font>
</p>
<p><font size="2">At 6:29 PM +0100 12/6/07, Philippe Dam wrote:</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> Hi,</font>
<br>
<font size="2">></font>
<br>
<font size="2">> The initial problem of this specific nomination
process was that </font>
<br>
<font size="2">> the GAID</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> Secretariat has (and still probably has) no idea
of the 3-4 civil </font>
<br>
<font size="2">> society</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> seats to be open for rotation.</font>
</p>
<br>
<p><font size="2">Then it would seem to me the selections made by</font>
<br>
<font size="2">the NomCom may force the secretariat's hand as</font>
<br>
<font size="2">they decide who should rotate out. I imagine the</font>
<br>
<font size="2">secretariat will consider how the NomCom's</font>
<br>
<font size="2">selections will effect the civil society</font>
<br>
<font size="2">membership as a whole.</font>
</p>
<p><font size="2">So long as the current African members do not</font>
<br>
<font size="2">wish to leave (perhaps CONGO could ask them) then</font>
<br>
<font size="2">there really is no problem as far as</font>
<br>
<font size="2">representation of the continent is concerned. 3</font>
<br>
<font size="2">out of 10 pretty good, no? And the diversity</font>
<br>
<font size="2">(expertise, language, region, gender) among</font>
<br>
<font size="2">representatives of the continent seems quite good.</font>
</p>
<p><font size="2">With respect, it seems to me that complaining</font>
<br>
<font size="2">about or trying to alter the NomCom's outcome</font>
<br>
<font size="2">would make civil society look somewhat</font>
<br>
<font size="2">incompetent.</font>
</p>
<p><font size="2">Best,</font>
</p>
<p><font size="2">Adam</font>
</p>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<p><font size="2">> Ph</font>
<br>
<font size="2">></font>
<br>
<font size="2">></font>
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<font size="2">> -----Message d'origine-----</font>
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<font size="2">> De : <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gov-bounces@wsis-gov.org">gov-bounces@wsis-gov.org</a> [<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gov-bounces@wsis-gov.org">mailto:gov-bounces@wsis-gov.org</a>]
De </font>
<br>
<font size="2">> la part</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> de Adam Peake</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> Envoyé : jeudi 6 décembre 2007 17:25</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> À : WSIS CS WG on Information Networks Governance</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> Objet : [Gov 370] Re: CS Nom Com recommendation
for the GAID Strategy</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> Council</font>
<br>
<font size="2">></font>
<br>
<font size="2">> Dear Louis, Delphine:</font>
<br>
<font size="2">></font>
<br>
<font size="2">> Please excuse my writing in English, and also for</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> my confusion (my poor French reading skills)</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> about your concerns.</font>
<br>
<font size="2">></font>
<br>
<font size="2">> You were members of a 5 member committee, are you</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> both disappointed with the outcome? 2 out of 5</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> unhappy isn't a good sign.</font>
<br>
<font size="2">></font>
<br>
<font size="2">> I am confused by the whole process and what you</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> seem to have been trying to achieve. The GAID</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> Strategy Council has about 60 members, 10 from</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> civil society</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.un-gaid.org/en/council/tor">http://www.un-gaid.org/en/council/tor</a>>.
It was</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> agreed at some point that about one-third of the</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> membership in the Strategy Council and Steering</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> Committee should rotate. And that's what the</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> NomCom was doing, finding a new one third.</font>
<br>
<font size="2">></font>
<br>
<font size="2">> Were you told who was expected to leave the</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> Council, both the civil society members and other</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> stakeholders? When you were making your choices</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> were you able to consider how your choices would</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> affect the overall composition of civil society</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> membership and membership of the committee as a</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> whole?</font>
<br>
<font size="2">></font>
<br>
<font size="2">> I can well understand you would be upset if there</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> were to be no African members of the Council</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> (though confused as to why you didn't do</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> something about it in the NomCom, 2 from 5?) but</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> that hopefully won't be the case:</font>
<br>
<font size="2">></font>
<br>
<font size="2">> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.un-gaid.org/en/council/members">http://www.un-gaid.org/en/council/members</a>></font>
<br>
<font size="2">></font>
<br>
<font size="2">> Civil Society</font>
<br>
<font size="2">></font>
<br>
<font size="2">> 1. Kamel Ayadi, President, World Fed. of
Engineering Associations</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> (Tunisia)</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> 2. Rodrigo Baggio, Executive Director,</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> Committee for Democracy in Information Technology</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> (Brazil)</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> 3. Peter Bruck, President, World Summit Award
(Austria)</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> 4. Astrid Dufborg, Executive Director, GeSCI</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> 5. Hiroshi Kawamura, Daisy Consortium, (Japan)</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> 6. Janet Longmore, President, Digital
Opportunity Trust (Canada)</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> 7. Tracey Naughton, Media Caucus (S.
Africa/Australia)</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> 8. AHM Bazlur Rahman, CEO, Bangladesh NGOs</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> Network for Radio and Communication</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> 9. Lynn St. Amour, President/CEO, Internet
Society</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> 10. Lynn M. Wanyeki, Executive Director,
FEMNET (Kenya)</font>
<br>
<font size="2">></font>
<br>
<font size="2">></font>
<br>
<font size="2">> If Kamel Ayadi, Tracey Naughton and Lynn M.</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> Wanyeki do not rotate off, then Africa is still</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> adequately represented. More than adequately,</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> actually.</font>
<br>
<font size="2">></font>
<br>
<font size="2">> It is perhaps interesting you would select a</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> Canadian (one on the Council from civil society</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> now) and someone representing people with</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> disabilities (also represented.) Are you</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> expecting Janet Longmore and Hiroshi Kawamura to</font>
<br>
<font size="2">> leave?</font>
<br>
<font size="2">></font>
<br>
<font size="2">> Thanks for any advice.</font>
<br>
<font size="2">></font>
<br>
<font size="2">> Adam</font>
<br>
<font size="2">></font>
<br>
<font size="2">></font>
<br>
<font size="2">></font>
<br>
<font size="2">></font>
<br>
<font size="2">> At 4:27 AM +0100 12/6/07, Louis Pouzin wrote:</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> Chers amis,</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>></font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> Vous connaissez les choix du NomCom:</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>></font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> Population Délégués Région</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>></font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> 327 millions 2 Amérique du Nord
anglophone</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> 433 millions 1 Europe (ouest)</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> 3,7 milliards 1 Asie (est et sud)</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> 1 milliard 0 Afrique</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>></font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> 17 candidats dont 4 femmes.</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>></font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> 4 choisis, dont 2 hommes et 2 femmes.</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>></font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> On peut donc dire que la parité des sexes a
été</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> scrupuleusement respectée. On peut même dire
que</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> cette fois les femmes ont eu un net avantage
au</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> regard du nombre de candidates.</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>></font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> Mais on ne peut pas dire que l'équilibre</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> géographique a été respecté, loin de là. On
peut</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> aussi constater qu'il était parfaitement</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> possible de respecter la parité des sexes avec</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> une déléguée Amérique du Nord et un délégué</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> africain.</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>></font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> D'où l'hypothèse que la parité des sexes
n'était</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> pas en fait l'objectif majeur, mais plutôt la</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> dominance Amérique du Nord anglophone.</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>></font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> Cette situation, qui fait fi des principes des</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> Nations Unies, met en évidence le caractère</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> fallacieux du mécanisme des NomCom. Un choix</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> aléatoire du NomCom n'est pas représentatif</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> lorsque le groupe dont on le tire n'est pas</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> statistiquement équilibré. De plus, un</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> échantillon réduit à 5 n'a plus aucune
propriété</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> statistique.</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>></font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> Comme j'étais dans le NomCom, je me permet
d'indiquer mes votes:</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> 1er vote: (sans préférence)</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> - Boubacar Barry 55 (ENTIS), Guinée</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> - Md. Shahid Uddin Akbar (SEBA), Bangladesh</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> - Parminder Jeet Singh (IT for Change), Inde</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> - Viola Krebs (ICVolunteers), Suisse</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>></font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> Dans ce premier vote Michael Gurstein
(Canada) a</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> eu 4 votes, et a été retenu dans la sélection</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> finale. Les candidats ayant eu moins de 2
votes</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> ont été retirés.</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>></font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> 2ème vote: (sans préférence)</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> - Boubacar Barry 55 (ENTIS), Guinée</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> - Parminder Jeet Singh (IT for Change), Inde</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> - Viola Krebs (ICVolunteers), Suisse</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>></font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> Les critères de mes votes étaient:</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> - il faut au moins une femme</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> - les gens des pays en développement sont
plus</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> pertinents que ceux des pays développés pour</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> faire valoir leurs besoins</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> - à compétence comparable les gens parlant</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> plusieurs langues sont préférables aux</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> monolingues</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>></font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> Il y avait suffisamment de candidats
compétents</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> pour satisfaire ces trois critères.</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>></font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> À titre personnel je ne verrais pas
d'objection</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> à la publication des débats du NomCom.</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>></font>
<br>
<font size="2">>> Cordialement</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>>
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World Tour of the Information Society (WTIS)
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Civil Society Working Groups
Scientific Information : <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.wsis-si.org">http://www.wsis-si.org</a> chair
Patents & Copyrights : <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.wsis-pct.org">http://www.wsis-pct.org</a> co-chair
Financing Mechanismns : <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.wsis-finance.org">http://www.wsis-finance.org</a> web
Director
Scientific Information Developement Laboratory :
Knowledge Networks and Information Society
ENSTA
32 Blvd Victor 75739 PARIS cedex FRANCE
Phone: (33)1 45 52 60 19 Fax: (33)1 45 52 52 82
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:muguet@ensta.fr">muguet@ensta.fr</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ensta.fr/~muguet">http://www.ensta.fr/~muguet</a>
MDPI Foundation Open Access Journals
Associate Publisher
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.mdpi.org">http://www.mdpi.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.mdpi.net">http://www.mdpi.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:muguet@mdpi.org">muguet@mdpi.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:muguet@mdpi.net">muguet@mdpi.net</a>
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