[Lac] Creative Commons Licensing for Developing Countries.

[Diego Saravia]

> There are some who would disagree with you. I'd suggest joining the list
> I mentioned so that they can make their points. Personally, I agree with
> you on this - but there are other factors too. Such as the 
> traditional role of women in some cultures works against women - 
> Beatriz could probably hop in here on that one.
> 
> Social exclusion - my friend, that's another can of worms. Imagine 
> how difficult it is for me, a poor Spanish speaker, to just keep up with
> this caucus which is predominantly Spanish. The average English speaker
> in the Caribbean is excluded. As it is, I'm still working my way around
> the issue. So I am fighting a social exclusion as well.
> 
> We English speakers are a minority in this part of the world. And the
> sad part is that most of us don't know it.

all that problems: gender exlusion, social exclusion, language exclusion, etc,
are only indirect related with digital divide, the fact that there are
societies that discriminates gender is broader than digital divide, and have
its solutions in other place.

Solve poverty, solve social and gender exclusion, use universal language,
thats the way.

I dont want a equal access internet, in a non equal society.
 
> >Age is a natural and universal issue, I do not think age issues could be 
> >associated with digital divide. 
 >

> How many 70 year old people do you know that are on the internet 
> right now? ;-) This is actually a big issue as it relates to 
> eGovernment and eDemocracy. If our countries move to voting online 
> and the elderly aren't computer literate, is that fair?

I do not think internet voting is wise.

That age problem have a solution: wait :) OK, you can help people to learn :) 

> The Digital Divide is not very simple. In fact, it's a real problem 
> to define, let alone fix! :)

OK

> >
> Actually, the problem I described with the phone line is an interesting
> problem here in Trinidad and Tobago, and one that the people
> representing the caucus should know about. Telecommunications 


you are right with geography. Its a good thing to have people distributed in
every place in the world, but there is not cheap techonology to do that, so we
have a digital divide/general infraestructure geographic issue.

We have also electrical, newspaper distribution, medical access, etc problem


> Well, you have cost for it's maintenance, and then we get into WGIG

but not related to bandwith usage. 

> issues as well. For example, in Trinidad and Tobago, the entire
> country's internet access is linked to U.S. Sprint in Florida. And they
> certainly do charge money for bandwidth, and that's another problem.

usualy charge models do not relate to cost models

> Last year, their DNS servers encountered problems and Trinidad and
> Tobago didn't have access to the internet outside the country for 3
> days. Amazing. So this is also a single point failure, which means to
> assure that there is no problem with bandwidth like that, there 
> should be another connection - which would mean another cost.
> 
> So I hope through this meandering conversation you understand why the
> Creative Commons license for Developing Countries is a good step.
> 

I do not think that :)

-- 
Diego Saravia 
dsa at unsa.edu.ar