[Mmwg] Combining models

Avri Doria avri at acm.org
Tue Jan 17 12:27:25 GMT 2006


hi,

i think this is a good approach.  and i think something using an ietf  
model could be an interesting starting point.  though the internal  
structure that is used for the bureau (the iesg-like entity), not  
being technical area oriented would need to be modified and could  
conceivably run parallel to the constituency model indicated in Luc's  
message - though i would hope it would allow for individuals to  
somehow be represented in the bureau as well (a tricky proposal as we  
know from ICANN).

a.

On 17 jan 2006, at 03.27, Vittorio Bertola wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I would like to submit an initial consideration.
>
> People usually have one of two different macro-models in mind:
>
> 1) one in which you have a closed group (whether it would be formed  
> by 20 individuals or by 500 accredited organizations is a second- 
> level problem) with formal admission and voting procedures, so that  
> you can take decisions in a transparent way;
>
> 2) another one in which you have an open room, physical or virtual,  
> in which everyone can walk in and participate, and then someone  
> calls rough consensus.
>
> Model 1 allows you to take decisions; deliberating in model 2 is  
> extremely difficult and subject to capture. On the other hand,  
> model 2 allows for participation by everyone, including  
> individuals, and allows good ideas to flow and to float.
>
> So I think that what we need is a mix of the two: model 2 to  
> develop policy proposals, and model 1 to approve them.
>
> Which, by the way, reflects the IETF model: you have open working  
> groups where a Chair calls consensus, but then you have a formally  
> constituted closed body (the IESG) that formally approves or  
> rejects the results.
>
> What do you think of this?
> -- 
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