From richardjordan at lycos.com  Fri Aug  1 17:21:31 2003
From: richardjordan at lycos.com (richard t jordan)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:41 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Possible glitch on accreditation web site
Message-ID: <EEPKBIPODFNGJGAA@mailcity.com>

Hi, Richard Jordan here, in Minneapolis for 2 weeks.

In checking on accreditation for another organization, I went to the www.itu.int site and clicked on the red "accreditatin" word on the right.

A page appears in the center of which are two lines, the second of which says "list of entitites that have requested accreditation."

Click on that and there is a list of almost 2000 organizations. I went to our organization, Intl. Council for Caring Communities, clicked on it to see our web site, and came up with Indo-Canadian Chamber of Commerce, another "ICCC" as is our organization.

I suggest that you all check if the web site that is associated with your organization really is yours!

Richard J.


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From schock at asc.upenn.edu  Fri Aug  1 18:59:46 2003
From: schock at asc.upenn.edu (Sasha Costanza-Chock)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:41 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] E-Waste 'officially' becomes HR Issue
Message-ID: <ECC6F7B330A26C40B652962C47DEA25801841CBE@asc02.asc.upenn.edu>

This is encouraging development, and hopefully will give those working on
e-waste within WSIS more leverage to improve the language on e-waste in the
documents.

sc


Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:15:43 +0200 
From: "Soenke Zehle" <soenke.zehle@web.de> 
Subject: <nettime> E-Waste 'officially' becomes HR Issue 

The UN Special Rapporteur on Adverse Effects of the Illicit Movement and 
Dumping of Toxic and Dangerous Products and Wastes on the Enjoyment of Human

Rights has recently turned to e-waste issues. The EDC review [1] includes 
Basel Action Network [2] and EarthJustice [3] materials submitted to the UN 
Commission on Human Rights. Good news, likely to intensify the convergence 
of environmental and human rights activism in general [4]. 

Earth Justice started as the legal defense fund of the much-maligned US 
Sierra Club, and many dematerialization-through-technology cyberlibertarians

are also, and not necessarily paradoxically, wilderness advocates (for 
'bionomics' promoters like Rothstein or Kelly, 'nature' represents the 
ultimate information economy). So maybe, their philanthropic support is 
coming full circle when they are finally paying for campaigns that address 
the hr-implications of e-waste.  sz 

[1] <http://www.padrigu.gu.se/EDCNews/Reviews/HumanRights-Env.html> 
[2] <http://www.ban.org/> 
[3] <http://www.earthjustice.org/> 
[4] <http://www.amnestyusa.org/justearth/> 

Environment and Human Rights Linked Before UN Commission 

The case for linking human rights and environmental protection is receiving 
increased recognition as a prevailing legal norm, says an nonprofit 
environmental law organization based in the United States. The International

Program of Earthjustice submitted its annual issue paper, "Human Rights and 
the Environment" at the 59th Session of the United Nations Commission on 
Human Rights in Geneva. [April 2003] 

Trends and themes in the field of human rights that are pressing enough to 
warrant the appointment of special rapporteurs include a Special Rapporteur 
on Adverse Effects of the Illicit Movement and Dumping of Toxic and 
Dangerous Products and Wastes on the Enjoyment of Human Rights. This special

rapporteur, Fatma Zohra Ouhachi Vesely of Tunisia, highlighted a new trend 
in the area within her mandate - the export of hazardous electronic waste 
from developed countries for recycling in developing countries in Asia. 

As documented by many reports received from different sources, she wrote, 
these wastes are processed in operations that are "extremely harmful to 
human health and the environment, with severe implications for human 
rights." Improper disposal of electronic waste that contains heavy metals 
and pollutants poses a threat to human health. 

US exports to China, India, and Pakistan 

She cited a comprehensive report from the Basel Action Network, a Seattle 
based global network of toxics and development activist organizations, 
alleging that substantial amounts of hazardous electronic wastes are 
exported from the United States to Asian countries such as China, India and 
Pakistan for recycling. The report alleges that improper disposal of 
electronic waste that contains heavy metals and pollutants poses a 
significant threat to human health, leading to respiratory illness, skin 
infections, stomach diseases and other conditions. 

Computer or television monitors contain cathode ray tubes, which typically 
contain enough lead to be classified as hazardous waste when being recycled 
or disposed of. A typical computer monitor may contain up to eight pounds of

lead. The report submits that such exports of electronic waste are contrary 
to the Basel Convention, to which the United States is not a party. 

Representing the United States, Malik Hasan, a neurologist and former owner 
of HMOs, said that his country remains "concerned that in a number of 
instances, unverified allegations were reported and often treated as fact" 
in the Special Rapporteur's report. 

Hasan told the delegates that the United States is currently making efforts 
to seek ratification of the Basel Convention. He acknowledged that 
nongovernmental organizations consider that this would do more to legitimize

international waste dumping than it would do to prevent it. The United 
States "disagreed strongly with this characterization," and noted that by 
ratifying the treaty, the U.S. would gain in "the ability and responsibility

to better regulate exports of hazardous waste." It would not legitimize 
international waste dumping, he said. 

Canadian exports to China 

The Basel Action Network report also alleges that hazardous electronic waste

originating from Canada is being exported to Asia for recycling. One of the 
receiving countries, China, has banned the import of electronic waste, and 
the report alleges that Canada's refusal to honor that ban by furthering 
exports of electronic waste to China is in contravention of the Basel 
Convention. 

During a visit to Canada in October 2002, Vesely said she had an opportunity

to raise the issue of the Basel Action Network report directly with the 
government. The government spokesman informed the Special Rapporteur that 
Canada is meeting its international obligations in the field of hazardous 
wastes and that Environment Canada is reviewing its definition of hazardous 
waste, including electronic scrap, as part of ongoing amendments to the 
Export and Import of Hazardous Wastes Regulations. 

Environment Canada has not issued any permit for the export of hazardous 
electronic scrap to any developing country, the spokesman said. Canada also 
prohibits the export of hazardous wastes to countries that have notified 
Environment Canada that they themselves prohibit imports of such waste. As 
of November 2002, China had not notified Environment Canada of any ban on 
the import of electronic waste. In view of the allegations of electronic 
waste export to China, Environment Canada has requested information from the

Chinese authorities as to whether China has a prohibition on the import of 
electronic scrap. 

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From valeriab at apc.org  Fri Aug  1 19:06:40 2003
From: valeriab at apc.org (Valeria Betancourt)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:41 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Remarks concerning the 5 points
In-Reply-To: <015c01c356e2$be375200$981529d5@nomade>
Message-ID: <3F2A65E0.1297.D4C6E2@localhost>

>From the APC LAC ICT Policy Monitor, we would also like to express 
our agreement with 
the sixth Francis?s commandement. 

Valeria



On 30 Jul 2003 at 18:48, estherjoly@fr.inter.net wrote:

> Je soutiens le 6 ?me point propos? par Francis... qui me semble tr?s
> important Estoy de acuerdo con este punto I agree the sixth Francis's
> commandement Esther
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "angelica" <ang@ciudad.com.ar>
> To: <plenary@wsis-cs.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 3:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Remarks concerning the 5 points
> 
> 
> Estoy de acuerdo con este punto. Es necesario para comprender los
> temas que se est?n debatiendo y sobre los que se tomar?n decisiones.
> 
> Angelica
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <info@laneta.apc.org>
> To: <plenary@wsis-cs.org>
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Remarks concerning the 5 points
> 
> 
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I would  appreciate if we can take the following Francis's point,
> > that is extremely important for organizations from the LAC region.
> >
> > >I would  also like to suggest  :
> > > 6. All important decisions of the CS must be taken only after
> > >translation in the working languages of the Summit ( English,
> > >French,
> > Spanish )
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Olinca Marino
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------
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> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
> >
> 
> 
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Coordinadora
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http://lac.derechos.apc.org
Tel: +593 (2) 2-234447 Fax: +593 (2) 2-559440
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http://www.apc.org    


From schock at asc.upenn.edu  Sat Aug  2 00:09:05 2003
From: schock at asc.upenn.edu (Sasha Costanza-Chock)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:41 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Phone Rates Effecting Net Users in India
Message-ID: <ECC6F7B330A26C40B652962C47DEA25801841CC3@asc02.asc.upenn.edu>

This article from the comminit Drum Beat shows a DECLINE in net users in
India due to phone rates.

sc

 

TECHNOLOGY

 

 

7. Phone Rates Effecting Net Users in India

 

* 1000's of Indians are logging off the Internet because of high telephone
rates.

* Internet connections by individuals and companies have fallen to 3.8
million from over 4 million in Dec 2002.

* Fewer than 2% of India's more than 1 billion people have regular access to
a phone line and fewer than 1% have a personal computer.

* Almost 95% of Internet connections in India are through phone lines.

* Dialing up for 1 hour can cost more than 24 rupees (50 cents), a day's
wages for an average Indian housemaid...

 

http://www.comminit.com/BaseLine2003/sld-7481.html
<http://www.comminit.com/BaseLine2003/sld-7481.html> 

 

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From mciver at albany.edu  Sat Aug  2 01:04:17 2003
From: mciver at albany.edu (Bill McIver)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:41 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Remarks concerning the 5 points
In-Reply-To: <015c01c356e2$be375200$981529d5@nomade>
References: <1059437920.3f25bd60570f6@www.laneta.apc.org> <000f01c3556e$d6feeb60$fabdfea9@abdallaa> <015c01c356e2$be375200$981529d5@nomade>
Message-ID: <3F2B0001.8090607@albany.edu>

I agree. / Estoy de acuerdo. / Je suis d'accord.

WJM


estherjoly@fr.inter.net wrote:

>Je soutiens le 6 ?me point propos? par Francis... qui me semble tr?s
>important
>Estoy de acuerdo con este punto
>I agree the sixth Francis's commandement
>Esther
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "angelica" <ang@ciudad.com.ar>
>To: <plenary@wsis-cs.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 3:14 AM
>Subject: Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Remarks concerning the 5 points
>
>
>Estoy de acuerdo con este punto. Es necesario para comprender los temas que
>se est?n debatiendo y sobre los que se tomar?n decisiones.
>
>Angelica
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <info@laneta.apc.org>
>To: <plenary@wsis-cs.org>
>Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:18 PM
>Subject: Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Remarks concerning the 5 points
>
>
>  
>
>>Dear all,
>>
>>I would  appreciate if we can take the following Francis's point, that is
>>extremely important for organizations from the LAC region.
>>
>>    
>>
>>>I would  also like to suggest  :
>>>6. All important decisions of the CS must be taken only after
>>>translation in the working languages of the Summit ( English, French,
>>>      
>>>
>>Spanish )
>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Olinca Marino
>>
>>
>>-------------------------------------------------
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From karenb at gn.apc.org  Sat Aug  2 13:17:42 2003
From: karenb at gn.apc.org (karen banks)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:41 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] PROPOSAL: PrepCom III Coordination
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030802130625.0234c8c8@pop.gn.apc.org>

greetings to everyone,

It's two weeks since the intersessional finished and 6 weeks before PrepCom 
III begins - so if you think the last 2 weeks have passed quickly, no doubt 
the next 6 will just as swiftly!..

We should know more about onsite facilities and room arrangements for 
PrepCom III by August 5th, so thought it a good opportunity to move forward 
on the proposal made by ralf bendrath which would seem non-contentious (and 
supported by others) re putting together some basic coordination plans for 
between now and prepcom III.

Before that, I thought it might be useful to summarise (as best and briefly 
as i can) the comments of participants in response to the current 
discussions regarding the legitimacy of the CSP, CT and CSB, roles and 
relationships between them.


1) Sean's first proposal
- legitimacy of the CSPlenary etc
---------------------------------
Almost all of the response to sean's proposal were in support of/broadly in 
agreement with, his 5 points, with additional notes:

- The NGO Gender Strategies Working group asked for a reformulation of 
point 3 (being as open to different perspectives and viewpoints as possible);
- there was some discussion concerns the meaning of certain terms (such as 
'serve') when translated into other languages
- Wolfgang Kleinwachter then posted an additional piece adding further 
clarity to the roles of the 3 Civil Society organsiational elements. Many 
supported a merging of wolfgang's definitions with sean's.
- a proposal to add a 6th point regards the need for translation of 
important documents into english, french and spanish (which was supported 
by members of the LAC caucus, the African caucus and other individual 
participants)

[On this note, it's worth highlighting that after collective and voluntary 
efforts to translate some of these posts into french and spanish, that a 
noticable increase in spanish/french speaking subscriptions to the plenary 
and subsequent posting took place].

2) Sean's second proposal
- formation of a Task Group
--------------------------
Sean posted a second proposal to form an "adhoc Task Group charged with 
coming to agreement on civil society structures and relations within a 
short period (one month).  This agreement would be put for approval to all 
CS bodies."

Most of the postings in response to sean's proposal welcomed the spirit of 
intention to move constructively forward, but **didn't** see the need to 
spend time on re-stating the legitimacy, roles and relationships of the 3 
CS elements (CSPlenary, CS Content and Themes Group, CS Bureau).

Most feel that this work has already been done, and whilst needing to 
clarify some aspects, we need to move on

PROPOSAL
========
1) To ask a small group of people (possibly sean, wolfgang, renate - others 
who are interested) to work from the generally agreed 6 points (Sean's 
proposal), wolfgang's further clarification and other existing 
comments/documents and produce a document that defines and clarifies the 
roles and relationships of the CSP, CT Content and themes group and CSB. If 
the plenary agrees, we can use this is a base document which the plenary 
endorses.

it shouldn't be too much work, and we need it for orientation for new WSIS 
participants, for informational purposes on websites, mailing lists etc.

Anyway, that's a suggestion..

2) There is a general affirmation from participants in plenary, that the 
primary responsibility for discussion of issues and identification of 
speakers for PrepCom III lies with the Content and Themes group.

We mandate the Content and Themes group, through the mechanisms they agree 
on, to continue working on coordination plans for the development of 
Content, and for continuing discussions with the CS Bureau regards 
mechanisms for the allocation of speaking slots, timing of speaking slots 
and identification of speakers.

3) We begin work on identifying our coordination and logistics needs which 
would include (initial ideas):

* creation of coordination@wsis-cs.org

* call for volunteers who would be tasked defining the basic coordination 
remit including:

CSP
- office/space needs (in general - CS coordination/CT group/Caucuses etc)
- onsite communication and logistics needs (including help with websites, 
lists etc)
- translation (both online and onsite needs)
- onsite monitoring
- onsite reporting and info dissemination (including outreach to media)
- developing a delegate lobbying strategy (knowing which gov delegations 
have NGO reps and forming       stronger relationships with them)
- anything else we decide on..

Communication flows
- clarifying objectives of existing lists
- define mechanisms to ensure permanent feedback from and between the CS 
Plenary, Content and Themes Groups and regional caucuses and working groups

* have our basic needs ready by aug 5th when louise shall supposedely 
respond with more info

* at at later point, break out into sub-groups on other lists on as as 
needed basis

Look forward to comments generally and expressions of interest in working 
on (3) coordination plans

karen


From emem_o at yahoo.com  Sat Aug  2 13:23:57 2003
From: emem_o at yahoo.com (Emem Okon)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:41 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Possible glitch on accreditation web site
In-Reply-To: <EEPKBIPODFNGJGAA@mailcity.com>
Message-ID: <20030802122357.38990.qmail@web11504.mail.yahoo.com>

Thanks Richard for this information.

Emem

--- richard t jordan <richardjordan@lycos.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi, Richard Jordan here, in Minneapolis for 2 weeks.
> 
> In checking on accreditation for another
> organization, I went to the www.itu.int site and
> clicked on the red "accreditatin" word on the right.
> 
> A page appears in the center of which are two lines,
> the second of which says "list of entitites that
> have requested accreditation."
> 
> Click on that and there is a list of almost 2000
> organizations. I went to our organization, Intl.
> Council for Caring Communities, clicked on it to see
> our web site, and came up with Indo-Canadian Chamber
> of Commerce, another "ICCC" as is our organization.
> 
> I suggest that you all check if the web site that is
> associated with your organization really is yours!
> 
> Richard J.
> 
> 
>
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From mariamorenovelez at yahoo.es  Sat Aug  2 21:30:10 2003
From: mariamorenovelez at yahoo.es (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mar=EDa=20del=20Carmen=20Moreno=20V=E9lez?=)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:41 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] PROPOSAL: PrepCom III Coordination
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030802130625.0234c8c8@pop.gn.apc.org>
Message-ID: <20030802203010.21036.qmail@web14805.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Karen!  I was reading your paper... Its very interesting.
 
Veo que tu tienes mucha claridad en el planteamiento de las urgencias y las tareas que se deben emprender de cara a la preparaci?n de la reuni?n de Ginebra...y m?s adelante la de Tunez. Observo que personas como tu, Beatriz Busaniche, Sean con sus propuestas iniciales de cinco puntos y el agregado 6 sobre el Bur? que debe preparar documentos para poder hacer ?nfasis en asumir los deberes y derechos de la S.C. ... En fin... tanto trabajo. Uno puede escuchar a Beatriz explicando ante la radio argentina las urgencias de trabajo. Observo que tu tambi?n est?s de acuerdo en esto de la expresi?n en los diferentes idiomas y que te afanas por las traducciones al espa?ol... Valeria y Beatriz se afanan por poner a nuestra disposici?n las traducciones.... Pero, la Secretar?a de la Cumbre no asume la responsabilidad de poner los documentos fundamentales en los idiomas oficiales  de las Naciones Unidas
Acabo de mirar  http://www.itu.int/wsis/documents/doc_single.asp?lang=es&id=699   y a pesar de los anuncios de los idiomas oficiales, los documentos aparecen en ingl?s.... ?C?mo te parece? El constrasentido mayor que encuentro es que de principio a fin hablan del respeto por los 
 

Option 1: Recall article 19 UN Declaration of Human Rights

Option 2: Freedom of communication and freedom of information

Option 3: Freedom to access information and utilise it.

 

?C?mo puede uno entender estos contrasentidos... las urgencias de referirse a los Derechos Humanos, que, seguramente incluyen el respeto por las diferencias culturales..... la libertad de informaci?n, de acceso a la comunicaci?n, al conocimiento... y todo en el ingl?s norteamericano?

 

?Cu?l libertad de cu?l acceso a la utilizaci?n de la informaci?n? 

Bueno, espero que me comprendas que mi enojo no es contigo, pues tal como yo quiero ser escuchada y le?da en espa?ol, trato de leerte en ingl?s... y comprendo tus limitaciones para el manejo de nuestro idioma, como yo misma las tengo "I can?t write in english now".  Mi enojo es con la Secretar?a de la Cumbre... que no cumple con su deber de poner todo al alcance de las mayor?as.

 

Obviamente, tambi?n agradezco a Valeria, Olinca, Beatriz, Sean... y todos los que est?n dando la batalla por  ser escuchados desde la Educaci?n, desde la Academia, desde Am?rica, desde las O.N.G. y las de la Sociedad civil... y quienes, adem?s, a pesar del tiempo y las demandas de sus gestiones, han puesto a nuestro alcance las informaciones que han tenido a bien compartir con nosotros.

Valeria ?Tu has aspirado a alguna de las becas? Dar?a lo que fuera por la ilusi?n de que personas como tu, Diego, Roberto... acompa?en a Beatriz y a Olinca en estas luchas... 

Beatriz... qui?nes de M?xico Per? y Brasil te han acompa?ado?  ?Olinca es de M?xico?

Bien, de todas maneras vamos hacia adelante con TODA AM?RICA Y EL CARIBE... Con nuestros intereses educativos y culturales... con el fortalecimiento de nuestra capacidad de expresi?n y la defensa de  nuestras manifestaciones culturales.

 

SEAN... ?C?mo va lo de tu propuesta de la organizaci?n de un comit? ad hoc para afrontar los derechos y deberes de la S.C en la CMSI? Aunque yo no est? completamente de acuerdo con varios de los asuntos, en lo fundamental, comprendo y estoy dispuesta a las batallas.

Escuch? a Beatriz en su informe a la radio argentina y entiendo y comparto aquello de que no se trata de tener una o muchas pc... en cambio s? se trata de ver qu? utilidad se le ha podido dar al uso de las TIC en favor de grupos cada vez m?s amplios de la poblaci?n... .y TENGO FE en los aportes a partir de los procesos educativos.

Saludos desde Colombia. Hoy estoy en Bogot?, ma?ana en Ibagu?.

Todo lo mejor, como dice Sean y el otro amigo que escribe

"All the best"

Mar?a del C.

 


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From: mariamorenovelez at yahoo.es (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mar=EDa=20del=20Carmen=20Moreno=20V=E9lez?=)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:41 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] ¿cuál ética? ¿cuál transparencia?
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Estoy leyendo, con juicio Draft Declaration of Principles, (Based on discussions at the WSIS inter-sessional)
que nos ofrece WSIS03/PCIP/DT/4(Rev.3)-E   EN   WSIS03/PCIP/DT/4(Rev.3)-E
 
 
A M? ME GUSTA ESTO DE CONOCER LOS DOCUMENTEOS... Y TRATO DE COMPRENDERLOS... pERO NO LOGRO ENTENDER  QUE A NOMBRE DE LOS DERECHOS HUMANOS, DE LA ?TICA, DE LA TRANSPARENCIA....NOS INVITEN A CONSTRUIR LA SOCIEDAD DE LA INFORMACI?N SOLAMENTE EN LENGUA ANGLOF?NICA  O ANGLOPARLANTES.... No todos somos ingleses ni procedentes de los ingleses.... hay muchos que somos amerindios y nos entendemos en espa?ol, portugu?s... hasta en italiano....
 
Por qu? nos hablan de  la representatividad de las gentes del orbe si no admiten otros lenguajes diferentes de los que tienen ra?ces inglesas.... 
 
?Qu? es lo que dicen reconocer del conocimiento, la informaci?n y la comunicaci?n?
 
?Qu? es lo que escriben, con relaci?n a ponernos de acuerdo  para afrontar la "DECLARACI?N DEL MILENIO" CON LA PROMESA DE LA DEMOCRACIA, LA TRANSPARENCIA, LA GOBERNABILIDAD.... EL BUEN COMPORTAMIENTO....
?pOR QU? EST?N TAN CONVENCIDOS DE LA REVOLUCI?N DE LA INFORMACI?N Y LA COMUNICACI?N... Y TODO ESE DISCURSO SI, NI SIQUIERA DESDE LO T?CNICO PUEDEN PONER EL DISCURSO AL ALCANCE DE LAS MAYOR?AS?   ?Qu? pasa con las lenguas latinas? ?qu? con el franc?s?
 
eN FIN.... Y ESO QUE SALI? TODO EN MAY?SCULA NO ES NI SIQUIERA POR MI ENOJO,,,, SINO POR MI INCAPACIDAD PARA VOLVER A LAS MIN?SCULAS... sALUDOS. Mar?a del Carmen .... sEGUIR? LEYENDO EL TEXTO EN INGL?S, PORQUE AUNQUE ME D? RABIA, ES MEJOR CONOCERLO QUE IGNORARLO!
 
 
 
 
 




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From: boiarov at ciudad.com.ar (Sonia Boiarov)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_=5BWSIS_CS-Plenary=5D_=BFcu=E1l_=E9tica=3F_=BFcu?=
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Hola Maria del Carmen!!

Para hacer un poco de fuerza con tus comentarios en nuestro bolet?n pusimos
una nota que transcribo debajo.  (En Espa?ol, no esta traducida).  Es solo
una reflexi?n.  Tal vez ahora nos preocupamos un poco mas o tomamos mas
conciencia de la importancia del uso del lenguaje y el respeto por las
diferencias que tienen que ver con como somos.

Mi esperanza es que esta cumbre nos encuentre pero tambi?n nos permita
entendernos.

Un abrazo a todos!  Y va la copia.

 

Lic. Sonia A. Boiarov

Directora Centro de Teletrabajo y Teleformaci?n

Carrera de Relaciones del Trabajo

Universidad de Buenos Aires

www.caminandoutopias.org.ar <http://www.caminandoutopias.org.ar/> 

 

Hablando los hombres se entienden
. Pero en qu? idioma?

As? intentando comprender la complejidad de un mundo que busca acuerdos, no
puedo evitar que surjan m?s preguntas que respuestas. 

Con la globalizaci?n, ?c?mo nos liberamos del acoso de las lenguas
extranjeras? El idioma ingl?s ha penetrado en Argentina, no s?lo dentro de
los ?mbitos corporativos (empowerment, assestment center, business case,
cash flow) sino tambi?n en la medicina, en los medios de comunicaci?n, en
los deportes, en la Internet 
 ?c?mo hacen algunos pa?ses para protegerse y
de que sirve? ?Qu? es el pluriling?ismo?, ?c?mo se permean las diferentes
lenguas? 

?C?mo se transforman las expresiones que usamos hacia el interior? Hablamos
con argentinismos, mexicanismos, bolivianismos, peruanismos y transformamos
al exterior como spanglish, y portu?ol
 

Se impon?a un lenguaje cuando se colonizaba una tierra, como ha pasado en
Am?rica. Muchas lenguas nativas murieron para que parad?jicamente los
portadores, en muchos casos abor?genes, pudieran sobrevivir. Pero no
pensemos solo en abor?genes, muchos latinos que viven en Estados Unidos no
quieren que sus hijos aprendan espa?ol. Se mira con desprecio el uso de
nuestro propio idioma y lo que es peor, muchos asocian el lenguaje a las
drogas, a la violencia y a la marginalidad. 

El lenguaje se carga de ideolog?a, de pertenencia a un lugar, de cultura,
nos identifica, nos une o nos separa de los dem?s. 

Tal vez los europeos en general, pero los franceses en particular, sean los
m?s cuidadosos con su idioma. En una reuni?n entre franceses y suecos
organizada para fomentar la cooperaci?n entre las firmas de tecnolog?a
termin? como una sesi?n de terapia cuando los ejecutivos se dedicaron a
quejarse de la enorme presencia de EE.UU. en el ciberespacio. Un ejecutivo
exhort? a sus colegas a "...desafiar a los estadounidenses", al agregar que
"si ellos ganan, no ser? cuesti?n del libre comercio. Ser? cuesti?n de
esclavitud." 

Tanto se han protegido de la colonizaci?n que reci?n en este a?o el comercio
electr?nico de su propia Red Minitel, ser? superada por Internet y esto
evidentemente causa preocupaci?n. Muchos temen que Internet amenace al
idioma franc?s mismo. El Ministerio de Cultura franc?s emiti? directrices
sobre los t?rminos inform?ticos estadounidenses que se podr?an emplear en la
prensa y la publicidad. Decret?, por ejemplo, que hab?a que escribir
"c?d?rom" en lugar de "CD-ROM". Francia est? inventando su propia jerga
cibern?tica. Un ejemplo es "Internaute", un nuevo vocablo franc?s que
significa usuario de Internet. (1) Tambi?n ahora se prohibi? la palabra
e-mail. 

Irene Vasilachis de Gialdino en su libro "Discurso Pol?tico y Prensa
Escrita", el prologo realizado por Teun A. Van Dijk manifiesta que es
necesario un verdadero an?lisis del discurso social y pol?tico. Entre varias
consideraciones que realiza sobre el an?lisis del discurso expresa que "es
capaz de mostrar como la dominaci?n y la desigualdad son representadas,
constituidas y reproducidas por las diversas formas que asumen los textos
orales y escritos de la sociedad". Tambi?n sigue el texto en que este
an?lisis brinda herramientas para defenderse del poder persuasivo para la
construcci?n de consenso y de la hegemon?a ideol?gica (2). 

El lenguaje es algo en lo que debemos empezar a ocuparnos, por supuesto este
es tema para los especialistas, pero es mejor no estar distra?do los que no
lo somos. Lo que es indudable es que ha dejado de ser solo materia de
estudio de la coherencia sem?ntica y la construcci?n gramatical.

(1) http://www.mercadeo.com/12-europa.htm
(2) Editorial Gedisa, 1ra. Edici?n 1997, P?g.16 y 17

 

-----Mensaje original-----
De: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org [mailto:plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org] En nombre
de Mar?a del Carmen Moreno V?lez
Enviado el: s?bado, 02 de agosto de 2003 17:55
Para: plenary@wsis-cs.org
Asunto: [WSIS CS-Plenary] ?cu?l ?tica? ?cu?l transparencia?

 



Estoy leyendo, con juicio Draft Declaration of Principles, (Based on
discussions at the WSIS inter-sessional)

que nos ofrece WSIS03/PCIP/DT/4(Rev.3)-E   EN   WSIS03/PCIP/DT/4(Rev.3)-E

 

 

A M? ME GUSTA ESTO DE CO NOCER LOS DOCUMENTEOS... Y TRATO DE
COMPRENDERLOS... pERO NO LOGRO ENTENDER  QUE A NOMBRE DE LOS DERECHOS
HUMANOS, DE LA ?TICA, DE LA TRANSPARENCIA....NOS INVITEN A CONSTRUIR LA
SOCIEDAD DE LA INFORMACI?N SOLAMENTE EN LENGUA ANGLOF?NICA  O
ANGLOPARLANTES.... No todos somos ingleses ni procedentes de los
ingleses.... hay muchos que somos amerindios y nos entendemos en espa?ol,
portugu?s... hasta en italiano....

 

Por qu? nos hablan de&nb sp; la representatividad de las gentes del orbe si
no admiten otros lenguajes diferentes de los que tienen ra?ces inglesas.... 

 

?Qu? es lo que dicen rec onocer del conocimiento, la informaci?n y la
comunicaci?n?

 

?Qu? es lo que escriben, c on relaci?n a ponernos de acuerdo  para afrontar
la "DECLARACI?N DEL MILENIO" CON LA PROMESA DE LA DEMOCRACIA, LA
TRANSPARENCIA, LA GOBERNABILIDAD.... EL BUEN COMPORTAMIENTO....

?pOR QU? EST?N TAN CONVENC IDOS DE LA REVOLUCI?N DE LA INFORMACI?N Y LA
COMUNICACI?N... Y TODO ESE DISCURSO SI, NI SIQUIERA DESDE LO T?CNICO PUEDEN
PONER EL DISCURSO AL ALCANCE DE LAS MAYOR?AS?   ?Qu? pasa con las lenguas
latinas? ?qu? con el franc?s?

 

eN FIN.... Y ESO QUE SALI? TODO EN MAY?SCULA NO ES NI SIQUIERA POR MI
ENOJO,,,, SINO POR MI INCAPACIDAD PARA VOLVER A LAS MIN?SCULAS... sALUDOS.
Mar?a del Carmen .... sEGUIR? LEYENDO EL TEXTO EN INGL?S, PORQUE AUNQUE ME
D? RABIA, ES MEJOR CONOCERLO QUE IGNORARLO!

 

 

 

 

 

 

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From: asqz at fipecafi.fea.usp.br (Alcimar Silva de Queiroz)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] =?iso-8859-1?Q?=BFcu=E1l=20=E9tica?=20=BFcu=E1l?= transparencia?
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Eu, pessoalmente, como integrante dos povos de L?ngua Portuguesa, mas tamb?m 
como delegado da Universidade de S?o Paulo na CMSI, endosso firmemente os 
reclames de Maria del Carmen e Sonia Boiarov. 

Alcimar Silva de Queiroz
Researcher
Universidade de S?o Paulo - Brasil
asqz@fipecafi.fea.usp.br 

 

Sonia Boiarov writes: 

> Hola Maria del Carmen!! 
> 
> Para hacer un poco de fuerza con tus comentarios en nuestro bolet?n pusimos
> una nota que transcribo debajo.  (En Espa?ol, no esta traducida).  Es solo
> una reflexi?n.  Tal vez ahora nos preocupamos un poco mas o tomamos mas
> conciencia de la importancia del uso del lenguaje y el respeto por las
> diferencias que tienen que ver con como somos. 
> 
> Mi esperanza es que esta cumbre nos encuentre pero tambi?n nos permita
> entendernos. 
> 
> Un abrazo a todos!  Y va la copia. 
> 
>   
> 
> Lic. Sonia A. Boiarov 
> 
> Directora Centro de Teletrabajo y Teleformaci?n 
> 
> Carrera de Relaciones del Trabajo 
> 
> Universidad de Buenos Aires 
> 
> www.caminandoutopias.org.ar <http://www.caminandoutopias.org.ar/>  
> 
>   
> 
> Hablando los hombres se entienden
. Pero en qu? idioma? 
> 
> As? intentando comprender la complejidad de un mundo que busca acuerdos, no
> puedo evitar que surjan m?s preguntas que respuestas.  
> 
> Con la globalizaci?n, ?c?mo nos liberamos del acoso de las lenguas
> extranjeras? El idioma ingl?s ha penetrado en Argentina, no s?lo dentro de
> los ?mbitos corporativos (empowerment, assestment center, business case,
> cash flow) sino tambi?n en la medicina, en los medios de comunicaci?n, en
> los deportes, en la Internet 
 ?c?mo hacen algunos pa?ses para protegerse y
> de que sirve? ?Qu? es el pluriling?ismo?, ?c?mo se permean las diferentes
> lenguas?  
> 
> ?C?mo se transforman las expresiones que usamos hacia el interior? Hablamos
> con argentinismos, mexicanismos, bolivianismos, peruanismos y transformamos
> al exterior como spanglish, y portu?ol
  
> 
> Se impon?a un lenguaje cuando se colonizaba una tierra, como ha pasado en
> Am?rica. Muchas lenguas nativas murieron para que parad?jicamente los
> portadores, en muchos casos abor?genes, pudieran sobrevivir. Pero no
> pensemos solo en abor?genes, muchos latinos que viven en Estados Unidos no
> quieren que sus hijos aprendan espa?ol. Se mira con desprecio el uso de
> nuestro propio idioma y lo que es peor, muchos asocian el lenguaje a las
> drogas, a la violencia y a la marginalidad.  
> 
> El lenguaje se carga de ideolog?a, de pertenencia a un lugar, de cultura,
> nos identifica, nos une o nos separa de los dem?s.  
> 
> Tal vez los europeos en general, pero los franceses en particular, sean los
> m?s cuidadosos con su idioma. En una reuni?n entre franceses y suecos
> organizada para fomentar la cooperaci?n entre las firmas de tecnolog?a
> termin? como una sesi?n de terapia cuando los ejecutivos se dedicaron a
> quejarse de la enorme presencia de EE.UU. en el ciberespacio. Un ejecutivo
> exhort? a sus colegas a "...desafiar a los estadounidenses", al agregar que
> "si ellos ganan, no ser? cuesti?n del libre comercio. Ser? cuesti?n de
> esclavitud."  
> 
> Tanto se han protegido de la colonizaci?n que reci?n en este a?o el comercio
> electr?nico de su propia Red Minitel, ser? superada por Internet y esto
> evidentemente causa preocupaci?n. Muchos temen que Internet amenace al
> idioma franc?s mismo. El Ministerio de Cultura franc?s emiti? directrices
> sobre los t?rminos inform?ticos estadounidenses que se podr?an emplear en la
> prensa y la publicidad. Decret?, por ejemplo, que hab?a que escribir
> "c?d?rom" en lugar de "CD-ROM". Francia est? inventando su propia jerga
> cibern?tica. Un ejemplo es "Internaute", un nuevo vocablo franc?s que
> significa usuario de Internet. (1) Tambi?n ahora se prohibi? la palabra
> e-mail.  
> 
> Irene Vasilachis de Gialdino en su libro "Discurso Pol?tico y Prensa
> Escrita", el prologo realizado por Teun A. Van Dijk manifiesta que es
> necesario un verdadero an?lisis del discurso social y pol?tico. Entre varias
> consideraciones que realiza sobre el an?lisis del discurso expresa que "es
> capaz de mostrar como la dominaci?n y la desigualdad son representadas,
> constituidas y reproducidas por las diversas formas que asumen los textos
> orales y escritos de la sociedad". Tambi?n sigue el texto en que este
> an?lisis brinda herramientas para defenderse del poder persuasivo para la
> construcci?n de consenso y de la hegemon?a ideol?gica (2).  
> 
> El lenguaje es algo en lo que debemos empezar a ocuparnos, por supuesto este
> es tema para los especialistas, pero es mejor no estar distra?do los que no
> lo somos. Lo que es indudable es que ha dejado de ser solo materia de
> estudio de la coherencia sem?ntica y la construcci?n gramatical. 
> 
> (1) http://www.mercadeo.com/12-europa.htm
> (2) Editorial Gedisa, 1ra. Edici?n 1997, P?g.16 y 17 
> 
>   
> 
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org [mailto:plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org] En nombre
> de Mar?a del Carmen Moreno V?lez
> Enviado el: s?bado, 02 de agosto de 2003 17:55
> Para: plenary@wsis-cs.org
> Asunto: [WSIS CS-Plenary] ?cu?l ?tica? ?cu?l transparencia? 
> 
>   
> 
>  
> 
> Estoy leyendo, con juicio Draft Declaration of Principles, (Based on
> discussions at the WSIS inter-sessional) 
> 
> que nos ofrece WSIS03/PCIP/DT/4(Rev.3)-E   EN   WSIS03/PCIP/DT/4(Rev.3)-E 
> 
>   
> 
>   
> 
> A M? ME GUSTA ESTO DE CO NOCER LOS DOCUMENTEOS... Y TRATO DE
> COMPRENDERLOS... pERO NO LOGRO ENTENDER  QUE A NOMBRE DE LOS DERECHOS
> HUMANOS, DE LA ?TICA, DE LA TRANSPARENCIA....NOS INVITEN A CONSTRUIR LA
> SOCIEDAD DE LA INFORMACI?N SOLAMENTE EN LENGUA ANGLOF?NICA  O
> ANGLOPARLANTES.... No todos somos ingleses ni procedentes de los
> ingleses.... hay muchos que somos amerindios y nos entendemos en espa?ol,
> portugu?s... hasta en italiano.... 
> 
>   
> 
> Por qu? nos hablan de&nb sp; la representatividad de las gentes del orbe si
> no admiten otros lenguajes diferentes de los que tienen ra?ces inglesas....  
> 
>   
> 
> ?Qu? es lo que dicen rec onocer del conocimiento, la informaci?n y la
> comunicaci?n? 
> 
>   
> 
> ?Qu? es lo que escriben, c on relaci?n a ponernos de acuerdo  para afrontar
> la "DECLARACI?N DEL MILENIO" CON LA PROMESA DE LA DEMOCRACIA, LA
> TRANSPARENCIA, LA GOBERNABILIDAD.... EL BUEN COMPORTAMIENTO.... 
> 
> ?pOR QU? EST?N TAN CONVENC IDOS DE LA REVOLUCI?N DE LA INFORMACI?N Y LA
> COMUNICACI?N... Y TODO ESE DISCURSO SI, NI SIQUIERA DESDE LO T?CNICO PUEDEN
> PONER EL DISCURSO AL ALCANCE DE LAS MAYOR?AS?   ?Qu? pasa con las lenguas
> latinas? ?qu? con el franc?s? 
> 
>   
> 
> eN FIN.... Y ESO QUE SALI? TODO EN MAY?SCULA NO ES NI SIQUIERA POR MI
> ENOJO,,,, SINO POR MI INCAPACIDAD PARA VOLVER A LAS MIN?SCULAS... sALUDOS.
> Mar?a del Carmen .... sEGUIR? LEYENDO EL TEXTO EN INGL?S, PORQUE AUNQUE ME
> D? RABIA, ES MEJOR CONOCERLO QUE IGNORARLO! 
> 
>   
> 
>   
> 
>   
> 
>   
> 
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> 
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From valeriab at apc.org  Sun Aug  3 05:09:13 2003
From: valeriab at apc.org (Valeria Betancourt)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Propuesta:_Coordinaci=F3n_para_PrepCom3?=
Message-ID: <3F2C4499.21652.506879@localhost>

Hola a tod@s/Hi everyone, 


Va la traducci?n de la m?s reciente propuesta de coordinaci?n  de 
sociedad civil para PrepCom3, presentada por Karen Banks, que intenta 
recoger los planteamientos de las anteriores propuestas emanadas 
alrededor de coordinaci?n/definici?n de estructuras de sociedad 
civil. / Below, Karen Banks? Prepcom3 coordination proposal in 
Spanish.

Pienso que la propuesta que hace Karen recoge el sentir que varios/as 
de nosotros/as hemos expresado acerca de la necesidad de trabajar 
paralela/simult?neamente en distintos frentes, optimizando tiempo y 
esfuerzos, y focaliz?ndose en la necesidad m?s imperiosa para 
sociedad civil al momento:  las definici?n y desarrollo de 
estrategias efectivas de coordinaci?n. / I think Karen?s proposal 
gathers the feelings that many of us have regarding the need of 
working in parallel from different fronts but focusing in the most 
urgent priority for civil society at the moment:  defining and 
developing coordination strategies.

Saludos/regards, 

Valeria
_________________________________

Saludos a todos/as, 

Son dos semanas desde que la intersesional se termin? y seis semanas 
antes de que la PrepCom3 comience, de modo que si piensan que las 
?ltimas dos semanas han pasado r?pido, no duden que las seis semanas 
pr?ximas pasar?n velozmente. 

Deber?amos conocer m?s sobre las facilidades en el lugar y sobre 
arreglos de alojamiento para la PrepCom3 al 15 de agosto, por tanto 
es una buena oportunidad para empujar la propuesta hecha por Ralf 
Bendrath que no es contenciosa (y es apoyada por otros/as) en la que 
se plantean algunos planes b?sicos de coordinaci?n para el per?odo 
entre ahora y PrepCom3. 

Antes de ello, pienso que podr?a ser de utilidad resumir (de la mejor 
y m?s breve manera que pueda) los comentarios de los/as participantes 
a las discusiones actuales sobre la legitimidad de la Plenaria de SC, 
el Grupo de Contenidos y Temas y el Bur? de Sociedad Civil, sus roles 
y las relaciones entre ellos. 

1) Primera propuesta de Sean
- legitimidad de la Plenaria de CS, etc.
----------------------------------------------------

Casi todas las respuestas a la propuesta de Sean fueron de 
respaldo/amplio acuerdo a sus 5 puntos, con algunos comentarios 
adicionales 

- El Grupo de Trabajo de ONGs en Estrategias de G?nero solicit? una 
reformulaci?n del punto 3 (siendo lo m?s abiertos posible a 
diferentes perspectivas y visiones);
- Hubo algo de discusi?n sobre el significado de ciertos t?rminos 
(como "servir") al ser traducidos a otros idiomas
-  Wolfgang Kleinwachter envi? luego una pieza adicional aclarando 
m?s a?n los roles de los 3 elementos organizacionales de sociedad 
civil. Muchos/as apoyaron una combinaci?n entre las definiciones de 
Wolfgang  con las de Sean. 
- La propuesta de a?adir un punto sexto sobre la necesidad de 
traducci?n de los documentos importantes al ingl?s, franc?s y espa?ol 
(que fue apoyada por miembros del caucus de LAC, del caucus de ?frica 
y participantes individuales) 

[En esta nota, vale la pena resaltar que, luego de esfuerzos 
colectivos y voluntarios para traducir algunos de los mensajes a 
franc?s y espa?ol, se ha dado un notable incremento de las 
suscripciones a la Plenaria y de las subsecuentes participaciones]

2) Segunda propuesta de Sean 
- formaci?n de un Grupo de Tarea
----------------------------------------------

Sean envi? una segunda propuesta de conformaci?n de un Grupo de Tarea 
adhoc encargado de arribar a un acuerdo sobre las estructuras de 
sociedad civil sus relaciones dentro de un per?odo corto (un mes).  
Este acuerdo ser?a puesto a consideraci?n de los cuerpos de SC para 
aprobaci?n. 

La mayor?a de respuestas a la propuesta de Sean acogieron el esp?ritu 
de la intenci?n de seguir adelante constructivamente, pero **no** 
ve?an la necesidad de destinar tiempo en reafirmar la legitimidad, 
roles y relaciones de los tres elementos de sociedad civil (Plenaria 
de CS, Grupo de Contenidos y Temas y Bur? de Sociedad Civil) 

La mayor?a siente que ese trabajo est? ya hecho y que en lugar de 
clarificar algunos aspectos, necesitamos movernos hacia delante. 


PROPUESTA
========

1) Pedir a un peque?o grupo (posiblemente Sean, Wolfgang, Renate -
otros/as interesados/as) trabajar desde los generalmente acordados 
seis puntos (propuesta de Sean), las aclaraciones adicionales de 
Wolfgang y otros comentarios/documentos existentes que definen y 
clarifican los roles y relaciones de la Plenaria de Sociedad Civil, 
el G-CT y el Bur? de SC.  Si la plenaria acuerda, podemos usar eso 
como un documento b?sico que la plenaria endose. 

Esto no implicar?a demasiado trabajo y lo necesitamos para la 
orientaci?n de nuevos participantes en la CMSI, para prop?sitos de 
informaci?n en sitios web, listas electr?nicas, etc. 

2)  Hay la afirmaci?n general en la plenaria de que la 
responsabilidad primaria de la discusi?n de aspectos e identificaci?n 
de personas que hablen en la PrepCom3 recae sobre el G-CT. 

Autorizar al G-CT, mediante los mecanismos que ellos/as acordaron, a 
continuar trabajando en planes de coordinaci?n para el desarrollo de 
contenido, y para continuar con las discusiones con el Bur? de CS 
acerca de los mecanismos de asignaci?n de los espacios para hablar, 
tiempo para hablar e identificaci?n de personas que hablen. 

3) Trabajar en la identificaci?n de nuestra coordinaci?n y 
necesidades log?sticas que podr?an incluir (ideas iniciales) 

* creaci?n de coordination@wsis-cs.org

* llamado a voluntarios/as quienes ser?an encargados de definir 
aspectos b?sicos de coordinaci?n, incluyendo: 

Plenaria de SC

- necesidades de oficinas/espacios (en general - coordinaci?n de CS/G-
CT/caucus, etc.)
- comunicaci?n en el sitio y necesidades log?sticas (incluyendo ayuda 
con sitios web, listas, etc.)
- traducci?n (en l?nea y en el sitio)
- monitoreo en el sitio
- reporte y diseminaci?n de informaci?n en el sitio (incluyendo ir 
m?s all? de los medios)
- desarrollar una estrategia de lobby con delegados (conocer qu? 
representaciones de gobiernos tienen representantes de ONGs y formar 
fuertes relaciones con ellos) 
- cualquier otra cosa que se decida conjuntamente

Flujos de comunicaci?n

- clarificar los objetivos de las listas existentes
- definir mecanismos para asegurar la retroalimentaci?n permanente 
desde y entre la Plenaria de SC, el G-CT y los caucus/grupos 
regionales

* definir  nuestras necesidades b?sicas hasta el 5 de agosto cuando 
Louise debe supuestamente responder con m?s informaci?n

* M?s adelante, formar subgrupos en otras listas en base a las 
necesidades

Con la expectativa de comentarios y expresiones de inter?s en 
trabajar en los (3) planes de coordinaci?n, 

Karen Banks



From veni at veni.com  Sun Aug  3 06:12:50 2003
From: veni at veni.com (veni markovski)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Propuesta: 
 =?iso-8859-1?Q?Coordinaci=F3n?= para PrepCom3
In-Reply-To: <3F2C4499.21652.506879@localhost>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030803071229.01a1cab0@198.111.183.129>

Huh, English??

v.

At 23:09 02.8.2003 '?.' -0500, you wrote:
>Hola a tod@s/Hi everyone,
>
>
>Va la traducci?n de la m?s reciente propuesta de coordinaci?n  de
>sociedad civil para PrepCom3, presentada por Karen Banks, que intenta


From karenb at gn.apc.org  Sun Aug  3 11:06:38 2003
From: karenb at gn.apc.org (karen banks)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Translation Issues
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20030803071229.01a1cab0@198.111.183.129>
References: <3F2C4499.21652.506879@localhost>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030803105749.011d7b70@pop.gn.apc.org>

hi everyone

a very brief response to the last few postings as far as i'm able to understand

maria - i *think* you thank various efforts to voluntarily translate (some) 
postings in this PLENARY list into spanish but note that the lack of 
translation services from the WSIS secretariat is of great concern and a 
source of great frustration for spanish speaking participants (for example, 
with respect the current declaration - which i think is still only 
available in english)

sonia and alcimar echoe your concerns and also raise the issue of 
portuguese speaking participants?

one of the coordination elements proposed is to form a translation team 
which could work with the WSIS translation voluntary services (ICV and 
netaid of UNV) to improve some aspects of communication (online and 
on-site). This could certainly improve the situation - but would result 
from our own voluntary efforts.

Identifying translation issues for the official process is something we 
could follow up on.

and veni - the message valeria posted is the spanish translation of the 
(english) message i posted re "Proposal for Coordination"

karen



From mariamorenovelez at yahoo.es  Sun Aug  3 13:23:44 2003
From: mariamorenovelez at yahoo.es (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mar=EDa=20del=20Carmen=20Moreno=20V=E9lez?=)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] ¿cuál ética20=BFcu=E1l?= transparencia?
In-Reply-To: <20030802225042.25335.qmail@fipecafi.fea.usp.br>
Message-ID: <20030803122344.21647.qmail@web14807.mail.yahoo.com>

Ol? Alcimar... Muito pracer... Obrigada.... Vamos a ver hasta d?nde avanzamos con nuestras defensas de nuestra latinidad. Tenemos que ser conscientes de que la representaci?n en nuestro idioma ser? una conquista como fruto de trabajo de respetuosa expresi?n entre los seres humanos... que no debemos decaer ante la arrogancia de los colonizadores, pero que debemos ganarnos nuestro puesto en la Sociedad Civil desde el trabajo comprometido, tambi?n con la defensa de nuestrras lenguas... para lograrlo, es indispensable, en mi opini?n, lograr conquistar y mantener una excelente y permanente expresi?n escrita Saludos. Mar?a

Alcimar Silva de Queiroz <asqz@fipecafi.fea.usp.br> wrote:Eu, pessoalmente, como integrante dos povos de L?ngua Portuguesa, mas tamb?m 
como delegado da Universidade de S?o Paulo na CMSI, endosso firmemente os 
reclames de Maria del Carmen e Sonia Boiarov. 

Alcimar Silva de Queiroz
Researcher
Universidade de S?o Paulo - Brasil
asqz@fipecafi.fea.usp.br 



Sonia Boiarov writes: 

> Hola Maria del Carmen!! 
> 
> Para hacer un poco de fuerza con tus comentarios en nuestro bolet?n pusimos
> una nota que transcribo debajo. (En Espa?ol, no esta traducida). Es solo
> una reflexi?n. Tal vez ahora nos preocupamos un poco mas o tomamos mas
> conciencia de la importancia del uso del lenguaje y el respeto por las
> diferencias que tienen que ver con como somos. 
> 
> Mi esperanza es que esta cumbre nos encuentre pero tambi?n nos permita
> entendernos. 
> 
> Un abrazo a todos! Y va la copia. 
> 
> 
> 
> Lic. Sonia A. Boiarov 
> 
> Directora Centro de Teletrabajo y Teleformaci?n 
> 
> Carrera de Relaciones del Trabajo 
> 
> Universidad de Buenos Aires 
> 
> www.caminandoutopias.org.ar 
> 
> 
> 
> Hablando los hombres se entienden
. Pero en qu? idioma? 
> 
> As? intentando comprender la complejidad de un mundo que busca acuerdos, no
> puedo evitar que surjan m?s preguntas que respuestas. 
> 
> Con la globalizaci?n, ?c?mo nos liberamos del acoso de las lenguas
> extranjeras? El idioma ingl?s ha penetrado en Argentina, no s?lo dentro de
> los ?mbitos corporativos (empowerment, assestment center, business case,
> cash flow) sino tambi?n en la medicina, en los medios de comunicaci?n, en
> los deportes, en la Internet 
 ?c?mo hacen algunos pa?ses para protegerse y
> de que sirve? ?Qu? es el pluriling?ismo?, ?c?mo se permean las diferentes
> lenguas? 
> 
> ?C?mo se transforman las expresiones que usamos hacia el interior? Hablamos
> con argentinismos, mexicanismos, bolivianismos, peruanismos y transformamos
> al exterior como spanglish, y portu?ol
 
> 
> Se impon?a un lenguaje cuando se colonizaba una tierra, como ha pasado en
> Am?rica. Muchas lenguas nativas murieron para que parad?jicamente los
> portadores, en muchos casos abor?genes, pudieran sobrevivir. Pero no
> pensemos solo en abor?genes, muchos latinos que viven en Estados Unidos no
> quieren que sus hijos aprendan espa?ol. Se mira con desprecio el uso de
> nuestro propio idioma y lo que es peor, muchos asocian el lenguaje a las
> drogas, a la violencia y a la marginalidad. 
> 
> El lenguaje se carga de ideolog?a, de pertenencia a un lugar, de cultura,
> nos identifica, nos une o nos separa de los dem?s. 
> 
> Tal vez los europeos en general, pero los franceses en particular, sean los
> m?s cuidadosos con su idioma. En una reuni?n entre franceses y suecos
> organizada para fomentar la cooperaci?n entre las firmas de tecnolog?a
> termin? como una sesi?n de terapia cuando los ejecutivos se dedicaron a
> quejarse de la enorme presencia de EE.UU. en el ciberespacio. Un ejecutivo
> exhort? a sus colegas a "...desafiar a los estadounidenses", al agregar que
> "si ellos ganan, no ser? cuesti?n del libre comercio. Ser? cuesti?n de
> esclavitud." 
> 
> Tanto se han protegido de la colonizaci?n que reci?n en este a?o el comercio
> electr?nico de su propia Red Minitel, ser? superada por Internet y esto
> evidentemente causa preocupaci?n. Muchos temen que Internet amenace al
> idioma franc?s mismo. El Ministerio de Cultura franc?s emiti? directrices
> sobre los t?rminos inform?ticos estadounidenses que se podr?an emplear en la
> prensa y la publicidad. Decret?, por ejemplo, que hab?a que escribir
> "c?d?rom" en lugar de "CD-ROM". Francia est? inventando su propia jerga
> cibern?tica. Un ejemplo es "Internaute", un nuevo vocablo franc?s que
> significa usuario de Internet. (1) Tambi?n ahora se prohibi? la palabra
> e-mail. 
> 
> Irene Vasilachis de Gialdino en su libro "Discurso Pol?tico y Prensa
> Escrita", el prologo realizado por Teun A. Van Dijk manifiesta que es
> necesario un verdadero an?lisis del discurso social y pol?tico. Entre varias
> consideraciones que realiza sobre el an?lisis del discurso expresa que "es
> capaz de mostrar como la dominaci?n y la desigualdad son representadas,
> constituidas y reproducidas por las diversas formas que asumen los textos
> orales y escritos de la sociedad". Tambi?n sigue el texto en que este
> an?lisis brinda herramientas para defenderse del poder persuasivo para la
> construcci?n de consenso y de la hegemon?a ideol?gica (2). 
> 
> El lenguaje es algo en lo que debemos empezar a ocuparnos, por supuesto este
> es tema para los especialistas, pero es mejor no estar distra?do los que no
> lo somos. Lo que es indudable es que ha dejado de ser solo materia de
> estudio de la coherencia sem?ntica y la construcci?n gramatical. 
> 
> (1) http://www.mercadeo.com/12-europa.htm
> (2) Editorial Gedisa, 1ra. Edici?n 1997, P?g.16 y 17 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org [mailto:plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org] En nombre
> de Mar?a del Carmen Moreno V?lez
> Enviado el: s?bado, 02 de agosto de 2003 17:55
> Para: plenary@wsis-cs.org
> Asunto: [WSIS CS-Plenary] ?cu?l ?tica? ?cu?l transparencia? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Estoy leyendo, con juicio Draft Declaration of Principles, (Based on
> discussions at the WSIS inter-sessional) 
> 
> que nos ofrece WSIS03/PCIP/DT/4(Rev.3)-E EN WSIS03/PCIP/DT/4(Rev.3)-E 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> A M? ME GUSTA ESTO DE CO NOCER LOS DOCUMENTEOS... Y TRATO DE
> COMPRENDERLOS... pERO NO LOGRO ENTENDER QUE A NOMBRE DE LOS DERECHOS
> HUMANOS, DE LA ?TICA, DE LA TRANSPARENCIA....NOS INVITEN A CONSTRUIR LA
> SOCIEDAD DE LA INFORMACI?N SOLAMENTE EN LENGUA ANGLOF?NICA O
> ANGLOPARLANTES.... No todos somos ingleses ni procedentes de los
> ingleses.... hay muchos que somos amerindios y nos entendemos en espa?ol,
> portugu?s... hasta en italiano.... 
> 
> 
> 
> Por qu? nos hablan de&nb sp; la representatividad de las gentes del orbe si
> no admiten otros lenguajes diferentes de los que tienen ra?ces inglesas.... 
> 
> 
> 
> ?Qu? es lo que dicen rec onocer del conocimiento, la informaci?n y la
> comunicaci?n? 
> 
> 
> 
> ?Qu? es lo que escriben, c on relaci?n a ponernos de acuerdo para afrontar
> la "DECLARACI?N DEL MILENIO" CON LA PROMESA DE LA DEMOCRACIA, LA
> TRANSPARENCIA, LA GOBERNABILIDAD.... EL BUEN COMPORTAMIENTO.... 
> 
> ?pOR QU? EST?N TAN CONVENC IDOS DE LA REVOLUCI?N DE LA INFORMACI?N Y LA
> COMUNICACI?N... Y TODO ESE DISCURSO SI, NI SIQUIERA DESDE LO T?CNICO PUEDEN
> PONER EL DISCURSO AL ALCANCE DE LAS MAYOR?AS? ?Qu? pasa con las lenguas
> latinas? ?qu? con el franc?s? 
> 
> 
> 
> eN FIN.... Y ESO QUE SALI? TODO EN MAY?SCULA NO ES NI SIQUIERA POR MI
> ENOJO,,,, SINO POR MI INCAPACIDAD PARA VOLVER A LAS MIN?SCULAS... sALUDOS.
> Mar?a del Carmen .... sEGUIR? LEYENDO EL TEXTO EN INGL?S, PORQUE AUNQUE ME
> D? RABIA, ES MEJOR CONOCERLO QUE IGNORARLO! 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From aabdallah at aat-ar.org  Sun Aug  3 13:54:52 2003
From: aabdallah at aat-ar.org (Angelica Abdallah)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Translation Issues
References: <3F2C4499.21652.506879@localhost> <5.2.1.1.0.20030803105749.011d7b70@pop.gn.apc.org>
Message-ID: <004901c359be$6fbb25a0$fabdfea9@abdallaa>

Hola a todos
Yo entiendo que el equipo de traductores deber?a estar previsto al menos
para cumplir con los idiomas oficilaes de la CMSI y fundamentalmente, para
facilitar la participaci?n "mundial".
Traductores voluntarios?  Es posible.
Pero si no es posible por medio de voluntariado, entiendo que entre las
"entidades involucradas" en la CMSI debe haber muchas, sobre todo en el ?rea
de medios de comunicaci?n, que podr?an ayudar a resolver este problema.
Si dentro del presupuesto de la CMSI no se consider? el costo de traducir al
espa?ol por ejemplo, algunos de esos medios podr?an hacer el aporte
necesario para "auspiciar" las traducciones necesarias.

Este no es un evento menor.  Y el tema del idioma, la comprensi?n y la
participaci?n no son detalles menores tampoco.

Hello everybody
I understand that the team of translators should be foreseen at least to
fulfill the official languages of the CMSI and fundamentally, to facilitate
the world participation.
Voluntary translators?  It's possible.
But if it is not possible by means of volunteering, I understand that among
the entities involved in the CMSI it should have many, mainly in the media
area that  could help to solve this problem.
If in the budget of the CMSI it was not considered the cost of translating
for example to Spanish, some of those means could make the necessary
contribution to sponsor the necessary translations.

This is not a smaller event.  And the topic of the language, the
understanding and the participation are not neither smaller details.

Please excuse possible errors in my English.

Angelica Abdallah Garc?a


----- Original Message -----
From: "karen banks" <karenb@gn.apc.org>
To: <plenary@wsis-cs.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 7:06 AM
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Translation Issues


> hi everyone
>
> a very brief response to the last few postings as far as i'm able to
understand
>
> maria - i *think* you thank various efforts to voluntarily translate
(some)
> postings in this PLENARY list into spanish but note that the lack of
> translation services from the WSIS secretariat is of great concern and a
> source of great frustration for spanish speaking participants (for
example,
> with respect the current declaration - which i think is still only
> available in english)
>
> sonia and alcimar echoe your concerns and also raise the issue of
> portuguese speaking participants?
>
> one of the coordination elements proposed is to form a translation team
> which could work with the WSIS translation voluntary services (ICV and
> netaid of UNV) to improve some aspects of communication (online and
> on-site). This could certainly improve the situation - but would result
> from our own voluntary efforts.
>
> Identifying translation issues for the official process is something we
> could follow up on.
>
> and veni - the message valeria posted is the spanish translation of the
> (english) message i posted re "Proposal for Coordination"
>
> karen
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Plenary mailing list
> Plenary@wsis-cs.org
> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/plenary
>



From asqz at fipecafi.fea.usp.br  Mon Aug  4 17:11:41 2003
From: asqz at fipecafi.fea.usp.br (Alcimar Silva de Queiroz)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: Translation Issues
In-Reply-To: <20030804145929.5595.qmail@fipecafi.fea.usp.br> 
References: <3F2C4499.21652.506879@localhost>
            <5.2.1.1.0.20030803105749.011d7b70@pop.gn.apc.org>
            <20030804145929.5595.qmail@fipecafi.fea.usp.br>
Message-ID: <20030804161141.8222.qmail@fipecafi.fea.usp.br>

Hello Karen, Tracey and all, 

First, thanks, Tracey, for the support to the Portuguese translations; I
think it's very important to the Portuguese Speaking Peoples. 

And, Karen, speaking by mylself, but in contact witn Sonia, I say "yes" to
your question. As you can see, there is a demand for Portuguese Translated 
Issues / Documents... 

If you considerate important, I can translate any documents you need into
Portuguese (e.g. Principle Declaration, Action Plan, Priorities Documents
are ready to be used by now!)... 

What do you think about this? 

Alcimar Silva de Queiroz
Researcher
Universidade de S?o Paulo - Brazil
asqz@fipecafi.fea.usp.br 

 

>  
> 
> 
> karen banks writes:  
> 
>> sonia and alcimar echoe your concerns and also raise the issue of 
>> portuguese speaking participants?  
>> 
>> one of the coordination elements proposed is to form a translation team 
>> which could work with the WSIS translation voluntary services (ICV and 
>> netaid of UNV) to improve some aspects of communication (online and 
>> on-site). This could certainly improve the situation - but would result 
>> from our own voluntary efforts.  
>> 
>> Identifying translation issues for the official process is something we 
>> could follow up on.
> 
 

From karenb at gn.apc.org  Mon Aug  4 17:20:26 2003
From: karenb at gn.apc.org (karen banks)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: Translation Issues
In-Reply-To: <20030804161141.8222.qmail@fipecafi.fea.usp.br>
References: <20030804145929.5595.qmail@fipecafi.fea.usp.br>
 <3F2C4499.21652.506879@localhost>
 <5.2.1.1.0.20030803105749.011d7b70@pop.gn.apc.org>
 <20030804145929.5595.qmail@fipecafi.fea.usp.br>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030804171613.02d3a768@pop.gn.apc.org>

hi alcimar

>And, Karen, speaking by mylself, but in contact witn Sonia, I say "yes" to
>your question. As you can see, there is a demand for Portuguese Translated 
>Issues / Documents...
>If you considerate important, I can translate any documents you need into
>Portuguese (e.g. Principle Declaration, Action Plan, Priorities Documents
>are ready to be used by now!)...
>What do you think about this?

sounds pretty good to me! ;)

I think at this point if would be good to form a small translation working 
group who can take these issues forward and map out our needs. Translation 
solutions will probably end up being a combination of:

- our own voluntary efforts (as in this list)
- seeing what additional services the volunteer networks can provide (ICV 
and UNV's Netaid) - for online and onsite translation
- communicating concerns with the WSIS secretariat

So, if there are a few of you who would like to work on this, let me know 
(i'm offering to set up a list and support, but not take full 
responsibility for..)

In the meantime, what about other issues raised in the coordination proposal?

karen


From asqz at fipecafi.fea.usp.br  Mon Aug  4 17:41:12 2003
From: asqz at fipecafi.fea.usp.br (Alcimar Silva de Queiroz)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: Translation Issues
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030804171613.02d3a768@pop.gn.apc.org> 
References: <20030804145929.5595.qmail@fipecafi.fea.usp.br>
            <3F2C4499.21652.506879@localhost>
            <5.2.1.1.0.20030803105749.011d7b70@pop.gn.apc.org>
            <20030804145929.5595.qmail@fipecafi.fea.usp.br>
            <5.2.1.1.0.20030804171613.02d3a768@pop.gn.apc.org>
Message-ID: <20030804164112.9103.qmail@fipecafi.fea.usp.br>

Hello Karen, 

Thanks for the immediate reply! Considerate my name for the charge of 
Portuguese Translation Work Group (behalf the Universidade de S?o Paulo)... 
I'm waiting for other interested people replies and your coordination, ok? 

Regards 

Alcimar Silva de Queiroz 


karen banks writes: 

> sounds pretty good to me! ;) 
> 
> I think at this point if would be good to form a small translation working 
> group who can take these issues forward and map out our needs. Translation 
> solutions will probably end up being a combination of: 
> 
> - our own voluntary efforts (as in this list)
> - seeing what additional services the volunteer networks can provide (ICV 
> and UNV's Netaid) - for online and onsite translation
> - communicating concerns with the WSIS secretariat 
> 
> So, if there are a few of you who would like to work on this, let me know 
> (i'm offering to set up a list and support, but not take full 
> responsibility for..) 
> 
> In the meantime, what about other issues raised in the coordination 
> proposal? 
> 
> karen 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Plenary mailing list
> Plenary@wsis-cs.org
> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/plenary
 

From karenb at gn.apc.org  Mon Aug  4 18:26:22 2003
From: karenb at gn.apc.org (karen banks)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: Translation Issues
In-Reply-To: <20030804164112.9103.qmail@fipecafi.fea.usp.br>
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030804171613.02d3a768@pop.gn.apc.org>
 <20030804145929.5595.qmail@fipecafi.fea.usp.br>
 <3F2C4499.21652.506879@localhost>
 <5.2.1.1.0.20030803105749.011d7b70@pop.gn.apc.org>
 <20030804145929.5595.qmail@fipecafi.fea.usp.br>
 <5.2.1.1.0.20030804171613.02d3a768@pop.gn.apc.org>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030804182513.02cf0528@pop.gn.apc.org>

hi everyone

I've had a couple of emails from people wanting to volunteer, if others are 
interested, maybe best to email me direct (karenb@apcwomen.org)

thank you alcimar, i've added you to the list..

karen

>Hello Karen,
>Thanks for the immediate reply! Considerate my name for the charge of 
>Portuguese Translation Work Group (behalf the Universidade de S?o 
>Paulo)... I'm waiting for other interested people replies and your 
>coordination, ok?
>Regards
>Alcimar Silva de Queiroz



From schock at asc.upenn.edu  Mon Aug  4 18:44:25 2003
From: schock at asc.upenn.edu (Sasha Costanza-Chock)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] re: broad participation / participacion amplia
Message-ID: <ECC6F7B330A26C40B652962C47DEA25801841CE7@asc02.asc.upenn.edu>

[en/es]

Hi all,
I'd like to reiterate a simple but important point that seemed to pass
unnoticed earlier:

The CS Bureau needs to be responsible for systematically inviting all
accredited CS organizations onto this plenary list (in their own language),
since it is the main coordination mechanism in between meetings. Can someone
connected to the Bureau take responsibility for making this happen?
-
Quisiera plantear de nuevo un punto sencillo pero importante que lanzaba
antes pero desaparecio:

SC Bureau tiene que ser responsable para invitar a todas organizaciones
acreditadas de la SC al lista plenary@wsis.cs.org (en sus propias idomas),
ya que es el mecanismo para coordinacion entre reuniones. ?Por favor alguien
conectada al Bureau asume responsibilidad para hacer eso?

sasha
sasha

From oeyen at entelnet.bo  Mon Aug  4 20:28:54 2003
From: oeyen at entelnet.bo (Victor van Oeyen)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] PROPOSAL: PrepCom III Coordination
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030802130625.0234c8c8@pop.gn.apc.org>
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20030804152854.008116a0@entelnet.bo>

Hi Karen and everybody! 

Thank you for your proposals! 

First let me endorse the entusiasm about the need for translations. We can
be more then glad with all the different offers to help! The absence of
permanent flows in Spanish definitely make more difficult active
latin-american participation. Luckily we count with APC and others to do
something but it really should be an official policy. 

About the other parts of your proposal: 
1. It would be very good that a small group puts together the constructed
practice untill now. Not invent new procedures, only clarify and detail
practical consequences of "a day on the Prepcom". The input you mentioned
would be good and usefull,  not for discussion, but for those of us who
will assist a prepcom for the first time. 

2. The Content and Themes group did a very important job and did it very
very well! I think the broadly endorsed declaration on main points is still
valid. But, the main parts of interest for Civil Society were cut by the
governments! I think our points are more or less clear (gender,
communication rights, community media, respect for culture, human
development etc.).  What we have to think about, more then about new
declarations, is how do we empower ourselves in such a way that our main
key items will have to be considered publicly. Do we have to organize
alternative meetings? Media-strategies? Strategic Alliances?

3. I agree with all the other needs you observed but think it is time for a
strategic discussion. 

Victor 
Victor van Oeyen
Coordinaci?n Departamento de Investigaci?n ERBOL-ALER

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From sean at nexus.ie  Mon Aug  4 20:25:32 2003
From: sean at nexus.ie (Sean O Siochru)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] A happy conclusion...
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From Francesca.Martinese at comune.bologna.it  Tue Aug  5 00:00:56 2003
From: Francesca.Martinese at comune.bologna.it (Francesca.Martinese@comune.bologna.it)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Francesca Martinese/Comune di Bologna/IT
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Sar? assente dall'ufficio a partire da  04/08/2003 e rientrer? il
25/08/2003.

Risponder? al messaggio al mio ritorno.

I will be out of office from 4th August until 25th August.

I will be out of office from December 24th to January 6th.
I'll answer the message as soon as I'm back.


From mariamorenovelez at yahoo.es  Tue Aug  5 01:58:52 2003
From: mariamorenovelez at yahoo.es (=?iso-8859-1?q?Mar=EDa=20del=20Carmen=20Moreno=20V=E9lez?=)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Translation Issues
In-Reply-To: <BB2A0138.58E%nyaka@sn.apc.org>
Message-ID: <20030805005852.79079.qmail@web14803.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Tracey! Wellcome!  Do you can write to us in Portuguese? I will like
see it. I like know about Mozambique.
Regards. Mar?a del Carmen Moreno V?lez
Coruniversitaria, Ibagu?, Colombia
Tracey Naughton <nyaka@sn.apc.org> wrote:
>From a southern African perspective - Just want to echo the need for
Portuguese translations. There is very limited official activity in Angola
and Mozambique because of this gap. It is also a limitation to civil society
initiation of national consultation processes in those countries.

Tracey Naughton
-- 
Nyaka - Communication & Development
Tracey Naughton
Consultant
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From karenb at gn.apc.org  Tue Aug  5 08:43:41 2003
From: karenb at gn.apc.org (karen banks)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] PROPOSAL: PrepCom III Coordination
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20030804152854.008116a0@entelnet.bo>
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030802130625.0234c8c8@pop.gn.apc.org>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030805084049.033999f8@pop.gn.apc.org>

hi victor

>2. The Content and Themes group did a very important job and did it very
>very well! I think the broadly endorsed declaration on main points is still
>valid. But, the main parts of interest for Civil Society were cut by the
>governments! I think our points are more or less clear (gender,
>communication rights, community media, respect for culture, human
>development etc.).  What we have to think about, more then about new
>declarations, is how do we empower ourselves in such a way that our main
>key items will have to be considered publicly. Do we have to organize
>alternative meetings? Media-strategies? Strategic Alliances?

I agree with you - and I think ralf might have had a media outreach group 
in an earlier draft - anyway, it *was* in an original draft and has been 
lost en-route ;)

maybe this could be linked in with the lobbying work that was identified 
(strategic alliances)

karen



From estherjoly at fr.inter.net  Wed Aug  6 16:04:50 2003
From: estherjoly at fr.inter.net (estherjoly@fr.inter.net)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] french gouvernement forum
References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030802130625.0234c8c8@pop.gn.apc.org> <5.2.1.1.0.20030805084049.033999f8@pop.gn.apc.org>
Message-ID: <059501c35c2c$185bed60$e71529d5@nomade>

open to all actors, bur in french.

la DiGITIP a lanc?, sur le site

http://www.telecom.gouv.fr/international/omu_smsi.htm

une vaste consultation ? destination des acteurs priv?s qui sont ainsi
invit?s ? se prononcer sur leurs attentes par rapport ? ce sommet, ? faire
part de leurs commentaires sur les projets de textes en cours de
discussions ainsi qu'? faire comma?tre leurs intentions sur leur
participation au sommet et aux ?v?nements parall?les qui se d?rouleront en
marge de ce sommet.

La date de fin de la consultation a ?t? fix?e au 1er septembre en vue de la
prise en compte pour une premi?re phase; les commentaires transmis apr?s le
1er septembre seront pris en consid?ration pour la suite du processus
pr?paratoire au sommet.




From rguerra at cpsr.org  Fri Aug  8 22:27:38 2003
From: rguerra at cpsr.org (Robert Guerra)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Virtual Partication at WSIS
Message-ID: <2147483647.1060363658@[192.168.160.3]>

Virtual Partication at WSIS 
<http://blog.neoteny.com/rguerra/archives/006125.html#006125>

I will be trying again to arrange a Video-Conference for the upcoming
WSIS prepcom 3 meeting in September. Organizing one of these events
isn't easy as it required alot of advance planning and coordination. 

With the support of the Development Gateway , I am hoping to organize
1-2 hour video conference using the Global Knowledge Development Network
(GDLN) at WSIS PrepCom3. 

By the weekend I have to come up with a draft proposal which will be
circulated to help us find additional partners as well as select the
sites. 

I look forward to heard comments and/or feedback from those on this list.

regards

Robert


 

From nyaka at sn.apc.org  Sat Aug  9 08:01:12 2003
From: nyaka at sn.apc.org (Tracey Naughton)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Virtual Partication at WSIS
In-Reply-To: <2147483647.1060363658@[192.168.160.3]>
Message-ID: <BB5A68D8.779%nyaka@sn.apc.org>

Hi Robert

It may or may not be of interest but the South African Broadcast Corporation
(SABC) has now woken up to the WSIS and will, in conjunction with Highway
Africa be sending a team of journalists to PrepCom 3. They will be sending
news back and making it freely available via the SABCnews.com site

The guy who manages that Steve Lang did all the WSSD coverage. It's always
hard to get Africa involved in these high tech things so maybe this is an
opportunity.

If this is relevant, let me know and I will link you.

Tracey


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WSIS Partnership Manager (Southern Africa)
201 Somerset Hall
239 Oxford Road
Illovo  2196
South Africa

Phone/fax:  
cell:               +27 (0) 82 821 1771
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From amalidesilva at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 11 09:45:43 2003
From: amalidesilva at yahoo.com (Amali De Silva)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Virtual Partication at WSIS
In-Reply-To: <2147483647.1060363658@[192.168.160.3]>
Message-ID: <20030811084543.58375.qmail@web21305.mail.yahoo.com>

Thank you Robert for organizing this. Let us know if we can be of assistance with our services.
 
Amali De Silva, Vice President, Vancouver Community Network, Canada

Robert Guerra <rguerra@cpsr.org> wrote:
Virtual Partication at WSIS 


I will be trying again to arrange a Video-Conference for the upcoming
WSIS prepcom 3 meeting in September. Organizing one of these events
isn't easy as it required alot of advance planning and coordination. 

With the support of the Development Gateway , I am hoping to organize
1-2 hour video conference using the Global Knowledge Development Network
(GDLN) at WSIS PrepCom3. 

By the weekend I have to come up with a draft proposal which will be
circulated to help us find additional partners as well as select the
sites. 

I look forward to heard comments and/or feedback from those on this list.

regards

Robert



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From hennawis at isesco.org.ma  Mon Aug 11 09:49:17 2003
From: hennawis at isesco.org.ma (hennawis)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Virtual Partication at WSIS
Message-ID: <76E9465536A22046BA47030DDF29305EC1F9@cid.isesco.org.ma>

Good idea

 

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Thank you Robert for organizing this. Let us know if we can be of assistance with our services.

 

Amali De Silva, Vice President, Vancouver Community Network, Canada

Robert Guerra <rguerra@cpsr.org> wrote:

Virtual Partication at WSIS 


I will be trying again to arrange a Video-Conference for the upcoming
WSIS prepcom 3 meeting in September. Organizing one of these events
isn't easy as it required alot of advance planning and coordination. 

With the support of the Development Gateway , I am hoping to organize
1-2 hour video conference using the Global Knowledge Development Network
(GDLN) at WSIS PrepCom3. 

By the weekend I have to come up with a draft proposal which will be
circulated to help us find additional partners as well as select the
sites. 

I look forward to heard comments and/or feedback from those on this list.

regards

Robert



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From amalidesilva at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 11 10:30:34 2003
From: amalidesilva at yahoo.com (Amali De Silva)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] RE: European/NA 'family'
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030724124441.02d8eb10@pop.gn.apc.org>
Message-ID: <20030811093034.25051.qmail@web21303.mail.yahoo.com>

Please add me to this list.
 
Amali De Silva, Vice President, Vancouver Community Network, Canada.

karen banks <karenb@gn.apc.org> wrote:
hi georg

I support your proposal and am very happy for you to host the list..

could those interested write to georg directly?

karen

>To avoid confusion, the immediate plan should probably be to create a
>mailing list. I could create one like wsis-eu-cs@fsfeurope.org
>easily. But if Karen feels like it, maybe eu@wsis-cs.org would be
>better?
>
>Regards,
>Georg


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From gideon at ghana.net  Mon Aug 11 10:31:00 2003
From: gideon at ghana.net (Gideon Hayford Chonia)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Virtual Partication at WSIS
In-Reply-To: <2147483647.1060363658@[192.168.160.3]>
References: <2147483647.1060363658@[192.168.160.3]>
Message-ID: <1060594257.22103.134.camel@dhcp-112-224.unizh.ch>

Hi Roberto,

Count me in, will be ready to contribute..

Gideon
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From rbloem at ngocongo.org  Mon Aug 11 11:30:32 2003
From: rbloem at ngocongo.org (Renata BLOEM)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] CS Orientation Session
Message-ID: <IBEGJNBEEELEANPJGINMCENOCNAA.rbloem@ngocongo.org>

Dear all,

CONGO had offered to organize for PrepCom-3 an orientation session which
would help to get everybody up to date and newcomers into the loop. I
finalized the agenda with Louise and Alex Fielding, Youth Liaison at the
Excecutive Secretariat, who will also be my co-moderator. Please find
attached the provisional program. Rooms will be announced later. The French
and Spanish version will follow and will also be soon on the Civil Society
and CONGO website.
Best wishes,

Renate Bloem
President of the Conference of NGOs (CONGO)
________________________
Palais des Nations, E2-B
CH-1211 Geneva 10
Tel: +41 22 917 1881
Fax: +41 22 917 0373
E-mail: rbloem@ngocongo.org
Website: www.ngocongo.org
_________________________________________
The Conference of NGOs (CONGO) is an international, not-for-profit
membership association that facilitates the participation of NGOs in United
Nations debates and decisions.  Founded in 1948, CONGO's major objective is
to ensure the presence of NGOs in exchanges among the world's governments
and United Nations agencies on issues of global concern. Our broad
membership email-network has become a major source of information for NGOs
active within the United Nations and seeking collaboration/partnerships with
other NGOs of similar concerns.  For more information see our website at
www.ngocongo.org or email congo@ngocongo.org

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From oeyen at entelnet.bo  Mon Aug 11 15:05:09 2003
From: oeyen at entelnet.bo (Victor van Oeyen)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] CS Orientation Session
In-Reply-To: <IBEGJNBEEELEANPJGINMCENOCNAA.rbloem@ngocongo.org>
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20030811100509.007f7440@entelnet.bo>

Hi Renate!!! 

Thank you very much!! This is really a very good iniciative to catch up. 

I won't be able to be there from the start (arrive in Geneva at 10.30) but
will drop in asap. 

Victor 
At 12:30 11-8-2003 +0200, you wrote:
>Dear all,
>
>CONGO had offered to organize for PrepCom-3 an orientation session which
>would help to get everybody up to date and newcomers into the loop. I
>finalized the agenda with Louise and Alex Fielding, Youth Liaison at the
>Excecutive Secretariat, who will also be my co-moderator. Please find
>attached the provisional program. Rooms will be announced later. The French
>and Spanish version will follow and will also be soon on the Civil Society
>and CONGO website.
>Best wishes,
>
>Renate Bloem
>President of the Conference of NGOs (CONGO)
>________________________
>Palais des Nations, E2-B
>CH-1211 Geneva 10
>Tel: +41 22 917 1881
>Fax: +41 22 917 0373
>E-mail: rbloem@ngocongo.org
>Website: www.ngocongo.org
>_________________________________________
>The Conference of NGOs (CONGO) is an international, not-for-profit
>membership association that facilitates the participation of NGOs in United
>Nations debates and decisions.  Founded in 1948, CONGO's major objective is
>to ensure the presence of NGOs in exchanges among the world's governments
>and United Nations agencies on issues of global concern. Our broad
>membership email-network has become a major source of information for NGOs
>active within the United Nations and seeking collaboration/partnerships with
>other NGOs of similar concerns.  For more information see our website at
>www.ngocongo.org or email congo@ngocongo.org
>
>
>Attachment Converted: "c:\eudora\attach\PrepCom 3 Orientation.doc"
>
Victor van Oeyen
Coordinaci?n Departamento de Investigaci?n ERBOL-ALER

Telefono (trabajo/work - ERBOL)  591+  2 - 2203650 - 2204011
Fax:                             		 591+  2 - 2203888
OJO: NUEVO (domicilio/home-La Paz)  591+  2 - 2790873
G.S.M. (Bolivia)	 	 591+  7 - 2001198
G.S.M. (Europa)		   31+  6 - 12777747





From amalidesilva at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 11 22:55:58 2003
From: amalidesilva at yahoo.com (Amali De Silva)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] CS Orientation Session
In-Reply-To: <IBEGJNBEEELEANPJGINMCENOCNAA.rbloem@ngocongo.org>
Message-ID: <20030811215558.97371.qmail@web21301.mail.yahoo.com>

It will be really helpful if a transcript / summary of this session were to be posted on-line to the list for those members of CS who will be working virtually.
 
Thanks!
 
Amali De Silva, Vice President, Vancouver Community Network, Canada.

Renata BLOEM <rbloem@ngocongo.org> wrote:
Dear all,

CONGO had offered to organize for PrepCom-3 an orientation session which
would help to get everybody up to date and newcomers into the loop. I
finalized the agenda with Louise and Alex Fielding, Youth Liaison at the
Excecutive Secretariat, who will also be my co-moderator. Please find
attached the provisional program. Rooms will be announced later. The French
and Spanish version will follow and will also be soon on the Civil Society
and CONGO website.
Best wishes,

Renate Bloem
President of the Conference of NGOs (CONGO)
________________________
Palais des Nations, E2-B
CH-1211 Geneva 10
Tel: +41 22 917 1881
Fax: +41 22 917 0373
E-mail: rbloem@ngocongo.org
Website: www.ngocongo.org
_________________________________________
The Conference of NGOs (CONGO) is an international, not-for-profit
membership association that facilitates the participation of NGOs in United
Nations debates and decisions. Founded in 1948, CONGO's major objective is
to ensure the presence of NGOs in exchanges among the world's governments
and United Nations agencies on issues of global concern. Our broad
membership email-network has become a major source of information for NGOs
active within the United Nations and seeking collaboration/partnerships with
other NGOs of similar concerns. For more information see our website at
www.ngocongo.org or email congo@ngocongo.org



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From karenb at gn.apc.org  Tue Aug 12 12:31:30 2003
From: karenb at gn.apc.org (karen banks)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Aug 15th: REGISTRATION DEADLINE
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030812123000.01b6d950@pop.gn.apc.org>

hi everyone

just thought i'd remind you all that the deadline for *registration* for 
PrepCom III is August 15th.

this assumes the organisation you're representing is accredited 
(accredidation closed on Aug 1st)..

http://www.itu.int/wsis/docs/pc3/forms/registration_cs.doc (multi-lingual form)

karen


From Glenine.Hamlyn at eed.de  Tue Aug 12 14:59:50 2003
From: Glenine.Hamlyn at eed.de (Glenine.Hamlyn@eed.de)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: Antwort: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Aug 15th: REGISTRATION DEADLINE
Message-ID: <OF72EF0636.476D83ED-ONC1256D80.004CA7BA@eze.org>

Thanks Karen! Since I have been sitting on the sidelines of the process for
quite a while (just too many other priorities to attend to, travel etc.), I
had overlooked that. Will complete it this week. I've been following the
discussion a little passively and see you have been constructively helping
quite a lot with practical list assistance etc. Seems like the results of
the official process at the Intersessional were disappointing, especially
in terms of gender...

See you soon, all the best

Glenine



                                                                                                           
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hi everyone

just thought i'd remind you all that the deadline for *registration* for
PrepCom III is August 15th.

this assumes the organisation you're representing is accredited
(accredidation closed on Aug 1st)..

http://www.itu.int/wsis/docs/pc3/forms/registration_cs.doc (multi-lingual
form)

karen

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From rguerra at cpsr.org  Tue Aug 12 17:41:50 2003
From: rguerra at cpsr.org (Robert Guerra)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] online chat channel created
Message-ID: <2147483647.1060692110@[192.168.160.3]>

Just a quick note to let you all know that I have setup a WSIS IRC chat
channel.

with it, we'll be able to chat in realtime both before, during and after
the upcoming prepcom.


the details are as follows:

IRC server: irc.freenode.net
Channel: #WSIS
(channel is live and will be up 24/7)

I'll try to connect at the following times:

08-09 Toronto/ 14-15 Geneva/ 17:30-18:30 New Dehli/ 21-22:00 Tokyo
2200-2300 Toronto/ 0400-0500 Geneva/ 0730-0830 New Dehli/ 1100-1200 Tokyo

I look forward to seeing you all there.


regards

Robert
 

From claire.shearman at mcr1.poptel.org.uk  Thu Aug 14 06:31:03 2003
From: claire.shearman at mcr1.poptel.org.uk (claire.shearman@mcr1.poptel.org.uk)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] online chat channel created
Message-ID: <48270-2200384145313822@M2W082.mail2web.com>

Hi

The following was in the Benton Foundation newsletter... just wondering
what the state of play is with the CRIS plans for a 'world froum on
communications'... anything happening, or has the plan been abandoned..??

Thanks
Claire

_______________

DIGITAL DIVIDE/WSIS 

SWISS AIM TO BRIDGE DIGITAL AND POVERTY DIVIDE 
This December, Switzerland will host the first phase of the World Summit on 
the Information Society (WSIS), a meeting whose key aim will be to bridge 
the digital divide between developed and developing countries. A special 
three-day event, the World Electronic Media Forum, will be held in Geneva 
and broadcast live by satellite around the world, including real-time 
contributions from several continents. Panels, workshops and keynote 
speeches will examine topics such as universal access to information, 
freedom of expression, cultural diversity and economic development. 
Organizers are looking to raise the profile of the event, particularly
after 
earlier concerns that a lack of interest and substance could threaten the 
meeting. Marc Furrer, director of the Federal Communications Office 
(Ofcom), said he wants to see concrete results from the summit rather than 
just dialogue. "We would like to see a substantial declaration with 
solutions that can be financed," he said. "But I am aware that the 
declaration won't change the world," he added. 
SOURCE: NZZ Online; AUTHOR: swissinfo 
http://www.nzz.ch/2003/08/08/english/page-synd4108487.html 
World Electronic Media Forum press release: 
http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2003/pi1494.doc.htm 
World Electronic Media Forum homepage: 
http://wemfmedia.org/ 
WSIS homepage 
http://www.itu.int/wsis/ 
ICT for Development Platform at WSIS: 
http://www.ict-4d.org/ 




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From ralf.bendrath at sfb597.uni-bremen.de  Thu Aug 14 20:01:29 2003
From: ralf.bendrath at sfb597.uni-bremen.de (Ralf Bendrath)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] "Club of Rome" publishes Position on WSIS
References: <48270-2200384145313822@M2W082.mail2web.com>
Message-ID: <3F3BDC89.A0DEC43F@sfb597.uni-bremen.de>

"Club of Rome" publishes Position on WSIS

Strengthening of public domain, stronger role for civil society demanded

14 August 2003. The "Club of Rome" (CoR), one of the most prestigous
think tanks world-wide, now has also taken a position on the WSIS. In
the statement that was published today, the CoR is adopting a number of
core priorities of the civil society groups involved in the WSIS
process. The CoR is e.g. asking for a stronger commitment to publicly
available knowledge (global commons or public domain), is demanding that
privacy will be secured inthe information society and is suggesting an
environment-friendly use of information technologies. On top of that,
the CoR states that "the greater involvement of Civil Society with its
many NGOs and other organisations, which have considerable expertise in
specific fields, is increasingly essential in implementation processes."
The statement ends with the sentence: "NGOs and civil-society
organisations should be empowered to play an increased role."

Statement of the Club of Rome to the World Summit on the Information
Society, Geneva, 2003: "Towards a New Age of Information and Knowledge
for All" (pdf)

http://www.worldsummit2003.de/download_en/CoR-WSIS-Statement-Final-14-8-03.pdf

From raoul.weiler at skynet.be  Thu Aug 14 20:33:03 2003
From: raoul.weiler at skynet.be (Raoul Weiler)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] "Club of Rome" publishes Position on WSIS
References: <48270-2200384145313822@M2W082.mail2web.com> <3F3BDC89.A0DEC43F@sfb597.uni-bremen.de>
Message-ID: <045e01c3629a$e2a9a480$0c01a8c0@computer03>

Dear colleague,

Many thanks for your citations and comments.

I will be at the next PrepCom in Geneva, the first week only.

Cordially,

Raoul Weiler



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> "Club of Rome" publishes Position on WSIS
>
> Strengthening of public domain, stronger role for civil society demanded
>
> 14 August 2003. The "Club of Rome" (CoR), one of the most prestigous
> think tanks world-wide, now has also taken a position on the WSIS. In
> the statement that was published today, the CoR is adopting a number of
> core priorities of the civil society groups involved in the WSIS
> process. The CoR is e.g. asking for a stronger commitment to publicly
> available knowledge (global commons or public domain), is demanding that
> privacy will be secured inthe information society and is suggesting an
> environment-friendly use of information technologies. On top of that,
> the CoR states that "the greater involvement of Civil Society with its
> many NGOs and other organisations, which have considerable expertise in
> specific fields, is increasingly essential in implementation processes."
> The statement ends with the sentence: "NGOs and civil-society
> organisations should be empowered to play an increased role."
>
> Statement of the Club of Rome to the World Summit on the Information
> Society, Geneva, 2003: "Towards a New Age of Information and Knowledge
> for All" (pdf)
>
>
http://www.worldsummit2003.de/download_en/CoR-WSIS-Statement-Final-14-8-03.pdf
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From sean at nexus.ie  Fri Aug 15 18:09:46 2003
From: sean at nexus.ie (Sean O Siochru)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] World Forum Communication Rights
In-Reply-To: <48270-2200384145313822@M2W082.mail2web.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20030815180648.01e642a0@gpo.iol.ie>

Claire - you asked is the World Forum on Communication Rights going 
ahead?  Very much so!!

We have spent the last number of weeks refining the concept and gaining 
support and funding, with considerable success.  We have formed the Forum 
Organising Committee (with the telling acronym of FOG).

Within a short time, we will send more details around and have our Website. 
And we will be promoting the event at PrepCom III, Cancun and elsewhere.

Bye for now, but watch this place.

At 01:31 14/08/2003 -0400, you wrote:

>Hi
>
>The following was in the Benton Foundation newsletter... just wondering
>what the state of play is with the CRIS plans for a 'world froum on
>communications'... anything happening, or has the plan been abandoned..??
>
>Thanks
>Claire
>
>_______________
>
>DIGITAL DIVIDE/WSIS
>
>SWISS AIM TO BRIDGE DIGITAL AND POVERTY DIVIDE
>This December, Switzerland will host the first phase of the World Summit on
>the Information Society (WSIS), a meeting whose key aim will be to bridge
>the digital divide between developed and developing countries. A special
>three-day event, the World Electronic Media Forum, will be held in Geneva
>and broadcast live by satellite around the world, including real-time
>contributions from several continents. Panels, workshops and keynote
>speeches will examine topics such as universal access to information,
>freedom of expression, cultural diversity and economic development.
>Organizers are looking to raise the profile of the event, particularly
>after
>earlier concerns that a lack of interest and substance could threaten the
>meeting. Marc Furrer, director of the Federal Communications Office
>(Ofcom), said he wants to see concrete results from the summit rather than
>just dialogue. "We would like to see a substantial declaration with
>solutions that can be financed," he said. "But I am aware that the
>declaration won't change the world," he added.
>SOURCE: NZZ Online; AUTHOR: swissinfo
>http://www.nzz.ch/2003/08/08/english/page-synd4108487.html
>World Electronic Media Forum press release:
>http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2003/pi1494.doc.htm
>World Electronic Media Forum homepage:
>http://wemfmedia.org/
>WSIS homepage
>http://www.itu.int/wsis/
>ICT for Development Platform at WSIS:
>http://www.ict-4d.org/
>
>
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From kpjarboe at athenaalliance.org  Tue Aug 19 18:57:18 2003
From: kpjarboe at athenaalliance.org (Kenan Jarboe)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] On-line access to government services - and alternatives
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20030819080253.01508648@incoming.verizon.net>

A routine administrative announcement by the US State Department yesterday 
highlighted an issue that I believe has not been adequately addressed: the 
right to access information and government services in numerous formats - 
including non-digital format.  Yesterday, the State Department announced 
that it would no longer accept paper applications for its "diversity visa" 
program (this is the annual visa lottery) (see State Department press 
release: 
<http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2003/23329.htm>http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2003/23329.htm). 
All applications must be submitted through the State Department web site 
and include a digital photo.  As some immediately pointed out, this places 
those who do not have easy access to the Internet (especially in poor 
nations) at a major disadvantage in applying for the program.

The thrust of the WSIS is to increase the utilization of ICT for a number 
of beneficial purposes: poverty reduction, health care, education 
etc.  However, the function of  ICT is to increase communications and 
access to information.  What if ICT is used to decrease access -- not 
simply through means of censorship -- but inadvertently by shutting down 
other forms of information access?

Unfortunately, this substitution process seems to be exactly what is 
happening in the push for e-government.  By putting everything on-line and 
only on-line, governments (with the best of intentions of improving service 
and cutting administrative overhead) shut down existing non-digital forms 
of access.

There has been some focus with the PrepCom process on the importance of 
traditional media and community media --and on multiple access points to 
the ICT network.  My point is different: that access to public information 
and government services must be available to citizens in a format that they 
choose -- for some (like me) it may be on-line, for others it may be 
paper.  The issue is not just access to the ICT network, but the 
preservation of existing channels of access to information and government 
services.  Not everyone will ever be "wired" -- either by choice or by 
circumstance.  [The importance of maintaining alternative mechanisms was a 
lesson that US banks learned the hard way when they attempted to switch to 
an all ATM system and reduce or eliminate tellers -- and their customers 
revolted.]

Somewhere in the Declaration we need a statement of the principle that ICT 
should be use to enhance and supplement existing access to information and 
government services and not substitute for existing forms of 
access.  Otherwise, we risk creating an information superhighway system 
where the only way to get to government services is by the ICT-equivalent 
of having to drive on the autobahn in a Porsche when we also need the 
information and communications access equivalents of taking the bus, riding 
your bicycle or simply walking.

Our focus must continue to be on information and communications -- not 
simply on information and communications technologies.  I would submit that 
there is a big difference between the two.

Ken Jarboe




Kenan Patrick Jarboe, Ph.D.
Athena Alliance
911 East Capitol Street, SE
Washington, DC  20003-3903
(202) 547-7064
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From j.gagain at funglode.org  Thu Aug 21 19:05:15 2003
From: j.gagain at funglode.org (John R. Gagain Jr.)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Minutes of the Joint Meeting between the Governmental Bureau
Message-ID: <AFENLBFHPIGCAPCJDMCJEEPFCGAA.j.gagain@funglode.org>

Dear Members of Civil Society:

You can find the finalized version of the Minutes of the Joint Meeting
between the Governmental Bureau and the Civil Society Bureau during the WSIS
Intersessional Meeting in Paris, France.

http://www.geneva2003.org/wsis/documents/paris/Minutes_GB_CSB_Meeting_18_Jul
y1rev.pdf
http://www.geneva2003.org/wsis/documents/paris/Minutes_GB_CSB_Meeting_18_Jul
y1rev.doc

Also, all of the Minutes of the Civil Society Bureau meetings held in Paris
during the Intersessional Meeting could be found on the website at:
http://www.geneva2003.org/wsis/index_c01_2_08.htm

Sincerely,

John R. Gagain Jr.
Think Tank Focal Point
WSIS Civil Society Bureau
World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS)
http://www.funglode.org/wsis/

Calle Capit?n Eugenio de Marchena, No. 26
Edificio de la Fundaci?n Global Democracia y Desarrollo
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Tel: 809.685.9966 Ext. 2201
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From lachapelle at openwsis.org  Sat Aug 23 16:53:16 2003
From: lachapelle at openwsis.org (Bertrand de LA CHAPELLE)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] On-line access to government services - and alternatives
Message-ID: <200308231553.AMT64301@ms7.verisignmail.com>

Thanks for calling our attention to this evolution. This can 
be put alongside the recent decision by the US government to 
request visas for visitors who did not need it before but do 
not have "machine-readable passports" (for more info, see : 
http://www.shrmglobal.org/function/immigration/fd061703.htm).

This connects directly to the notion of inclusiveness in 
the "information society". A "digital apartheid" could 
emerge - unvoluntarily - if some measures are not taken to 
guarantee not only access to the modern means of 
communication for those who want them, but also to allow 
those who can't - or do not want - to still be part of the 
community. 

It is in the nature of the present evolution that some 
people in less developed countries take fully part in the 
information society whereas some low-income or aged ones in 
highly developed countries stay out. As a result, cyberspace 
is becoming a physical "cyberland" with invisible but very 
real borders, a society in itself, spreading all over the 
globe, albeit unevenly, in a sort of fractal way. And WSIS 
is partly about how to define the governance of this new 
space and community. 

But the biggest issue is how this "community of the 
connected" integrates with the non-digital world and how 
open it is to those who are not part of it - by accident or 
by choice. 

If the information society becomes a community gated by 
virtual walls, excluding as "inferiors" the un-wired and 
creating special lines in airports and public places for the 
digital elite while others have to queue for hours whith no 
attention, then the promises of this technological 
revolution will be betrayed.

The notion of an information society does not mean that 
everybody should be connected or rejected. But rather that 
nobody should be prevented from joining in or opting out. 
Respect for diversity is at stake here as much as in the 
cultural sphere.  

Stangely enough, this brings connexions to unexpected themes 
like the right not to recieve spam, the right to remain 
unreachable outside of office hours ... or the desire to 
still read a book instead of an online version.

This only reminds us that the whole WSIS exercise is about 
coexistence and respect - or at least it should be. The 
issues above are only an illustration of the many forms this 
challenge can take.   


Bertrand de La Chapelle
OpenWSIS
lachapelle @openwsis.org
 

---- Original message ----
>Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 13:57:18 -0400
>From: Kenan Jarboe <kpjarboe@athenaalliance.org>  
>Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] On-line access to government 
services - and alternatives  
>To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
>
>   A routine administrative announcement by the US
>   State Department yesterday highlighted an issue that
>   I believe has not been adequately addressed: the
>   right to access information and government services
>   in numerous formats - including non-digital format. 
>   Yesterday, the State Department announced that it
>   would no longer accept paper applications for its
>   "diversity visa" program (this is the annual visa
>   lottery) (see State Department press release: 
>   http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2003/23329.htm). 
>   All applications must be submitted through the State
>   Department web site and include a digital photo.  As
>   some immediately pointed out, this places those who
>   do not have easy access to the Internet (especially
>   in poor nations) at a major disadvantage in applying
>   for the program.
>
>   The thrust of the WSIS is to increase the
>   utilization of ICT for a number of beneficial
>   purposes: poverty reduction, health care, education
>   etc.  However, the function of  ICT is to increase
>   communications and access to information.  What if
>   ICT is used to decrease access -- not simply through
>   means of censorship -- but inadvertently by shutting
>   down other forms of information access?
>
>   Unfortunately, this substitution process seems to be
>   exactly what is happening in the push for
>   e-government.  By putting everything on-line and
>   only on-line, governments (with the best of
>   intentions of improving service and cutting
>   administrative overhead) shut down existing
>   non-digital forms of access. 
>
>   There has been some focus with the PrepCom process
>   on the importance of traditional media and community
>   media --and on multiple access points to the ICT
>   network.  My point is different: that access to
>   public information and government services must be
>   available to citizens in a format that they choose
>   -- for some (like me) it may be on-line, for others
>   it may be paper.  The issue is not just access to
>   the ICT network, but the preservation of existing
>   channels of access to information and government
>   services.  Not everyone will ever be "wired" --
>   either by choice or by circumstance.  [The
>   importance of maintaining alternative mechanisms was
>   a lesson that US banks learned the hard way when
>   they attempted to switch to an all ATM system and
>   reduce or eliminate tellers -- and their customers
>   revolted.]
>
>   Somewhere in the Declaration we need a statement of
>   the principle that ICT should be use to enhance and
>   supplement existing access to information and
>   government services and not substitute for existing
>   forms of access.  Otherwise, we risk creating an
>   information superhighway system where the only way
>   to get to government services is by the
>   ICT-equivalent of having to drive on the autobahn in
>   a Porsche when we also need the information and
>   communications access equivalents of taking the bus,
>   riding your bicycle or simply walking.
>
>   Our focus must continue to be on information and
>   communications -- not simply on information and
>   communications technologies.  I would submit that
>   there is a big difference between the two.
>
>   Ken Jarboe
>
>   Kenan Patrick Jarboe, Ph.D.
>   Athena Alliance
>   911 East Capitol Street, SE
>   Washington, DC  20003-3903
>   (202) 547-7064
>   kpjarboe@athenaalliance.org
>   http://www.athenaalliance.org

From thomruddy at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 25 08:36:38 2003
From: thomruddy at yahoo.com (Thomas Ruddy)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Fwd: [wsis com-ch] Lessig blogs about IP and how neither WSIS nor WIPO want to touch it
Message-ID: <20030825073638.38854.qmail@web41509.mail.yahoo.com>

Dear plenary,
Adam Peake has just posted separately
> The thread about Ms. Boland's (mis)characterization
> of open-source software 

to which Lessig refers in another of his equally
interesting postings which is reproduced below.

Will Intellectual Property (or whatever ideas or
innovations should be called instead) still be taboo
at PrepCom 3?

Thomas Ruddy

> --- Alex Schroeder <alex@gnu.org> wrote:
> > To: wsis@comunica-ch.net
> > Subject: [wsis com-ch] Lessig blogs about IP and
> how
> > neither WSIS nor WIPO want to touch it
> > From: Alex Schroeder <alex@gnu.org>
> > Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 20:15:57 +0200
> > 
> > I just read Lessig's blog.  It is very interesting
> > since he appeared
> > at prepcom two, and this is the first time I heard
> > about his keynote
> > from himself.
> > 
> > Remember back when I first started taking an
> > interest in WSIS how I
> > noticed that Lessig's keynote was missing from the
> > WSIS website?
> > Hehe, no reason to be paranoid about it.  ;)
> > 
> > Anyway, I think this post illustrates why we
> should
> > make IP -- that is
> > copyright, patents, and free software -- an
> > important part of WSIS.
> > Even though I have had some discussions with Mdm.
> > Mettraux from IPI
> > and Msr. Salvade from SUISA concerning this. 
> They,
> > too, claimed that
> > WSIS should not touch upon the subject.  We
> should!
> > 
> > 
> > Alex.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 2003-08-22T14:18:42-08:00
> > 
> > The thread about Ms. Boland's
> (mis)characterization
> > of open-source
> > software (remember the days when statements were
> > either true or
> > false?) reminded me of an odd fight I found myself
> > in the middle of at
> > the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS)
> > in Geneva in
> > February.
> > 
> > I was asked to give one of three keynotes
> launching
> > the second
> > preparatory conference. At a press conference
> before
> > the keynote, a
> > reporter asked what I was going to talk about. I
> > indicated vaguely I
> > would discuss the importance of the public domain
> to
> > innovation,
> > etc. (same old boring stuff). But I was then
> > astonished when the
> > moderator of the event, Maria CATTAUI,
> > Secretary-General of the
> > International Chamber of Commerce, scolded me that
> > issues of
> > "intellectual property" were not to be discussed
> > because they were
> > "exclusively" the concern of WIPO.
> > 
> > I promptly threw away the talk I had intended to
> > give, and gave a
> > completely different talk about how -- Ms.
> Cattaui's
> > scolding
> > notwithstanding -- it was crucial that a summit on
> > the world
> > "information society" consider the role of the
> > public domain in
> > spreading knowledge and culture even if WIPO
> claimed
> > exclusive
> > jurisdiction of the matter. That assured I won't
> be
> > invited back to
> > WSIS anytime soon (or at least by Ms. Cattaui).
> > 
> > It is therefore extraordinary now that people
> > purporting to speak for
> > WIPO would say that WIPO too is not to consider
> > issues about the
> > public domain.  Neither at WIPO, nor at WSIS, nor
> > apparently
> > anywhere. Except among us commies I guess. (Fellow
> > travelers, for our
> > next secret communist meeting, be sure to read the
> > latest great work
> > by some of the most prominent IP commies out
> there. 
> > Linked here.)
> > 
> > http://www.lessig.org/blog/archives/001439.shtml
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> >
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From alalegre at fma.ph  Mon Aug 25 09:00:57 2003
From: alalegre at fma.ph (Alan G. Alegre)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:42 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] FW: [Random-bits] USPTO, Microsoft seek to kill WIPO meeting on open collaborative models to develop public goods
Message-ID: <01c801c36adf$0719f9e0$9d00a8c0@mshome.net>

Posted this earlier on another list, apropo to Thomas Ruddy's earlier post

> FYI
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Gurstein <mgurst@vcn.bc.ca>
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: random-bits-admin@venice.essential.org
> >
> >
> > August 19, 2003. Technology Daily PM Edition
> >
> > --
> > Intellectual Property
> > Global Group's Shift On 'Open Source' Meeting Spurs Stir
> > by William New
> >
> > A request for a meeting on open development issues has plunged the
> > Geneva-based World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) into a
> > Washington political battle, causing it to shift its position on the
> > issue.
> >
> > At issue is whether WIPO should hold a meeting next year on "open and
> > collaborative projects" such as "open source" software, which allows
> > users to view and modify underlying code.
> >
> > The meeting was proposed in a July 7 letter sent to WIPO Director
> > General Kamil Idris by 68 distinguished scientists, academics,
> > technologists, open-source advocates, consumer advocates, librarians,
> > industry representatives and economists worldwide.
> >
> > Although the letter cited a broad range of open collaborative projects
> > such as the World Wide Web and the Human Genome Project, the fight has
> > focused on open-source software and on one signer of the letter -- James
> > Love, director of the Consumer Project on Technology, who has actively
> > pushed for the meeting.
> >
> > WIPO's initial response to the idea was so favorable that proponents
> > began planning for a meeting. After receiving the letter, Francis Gurry,
> > WIPO's assistant director and legal counsel, e-mailed a statement to a
> > Nature magazine reporter calling such open development models "a very
> > important and interesting development."
> >
> > "The director general of WIPO looks forward with enthusiasm to taking up
> > the invitation to organize a conference to explore the scope and
> > application of these models as vehicles for encouraging innovation," he
> > wrote.
> >
> > But a few weeks later, WIPO backed off the idea. Gurry said he and other
> > WIPO officials received "many calls" from consumer groups, trade
> > associations, professional associations and representatives from
> > governments.
> >
> > "What happened in the intervening weeks is that a request for an open
> > discussion on a range of 'projects' became transformed into an
> > increasingly domestically, as opposed to internationally, oriented,
> > polarized political and trade debate about one only of those 'projects',
> > namely open-source software," Gurry told National Journal's Technology
> > Daily on Tuesday. "In those circumstances, the possibility of conducting
> > a policy discussion on intellectual property of the sort that might be
> > appropriate for an international organization devoted to intellectual
> > property became increasingly remote."
> >
> > U.S. government officials have argued that WIPO is an inappropriate
> > place for such a meeting.
> >
> > One developing country representative to WIPO on Monday expressed
> > disappointment at hearing that the meeting is in doubt, and Love and
> > representatives from the Computer and Communications Industry
> > Association (CCIA) were furious to learn of the shift. Love last week
> > called the decision a "temporary setback," and vowed, "We're going to
> > make this happen." But for meeting opponents, he said, it would be "as
> > if you made an atheist pope for the day."
> >
> > CCIA President Ed Black said on Tuesday: "Does this indicate that WIPO
> > is abdicating authority and responsibility for these issues, including
> > open source for the future? If so, we will all live by that, but then so
> > must they. They should step up the plate or step aside. ... It is
> > inexplicable that they would shut the door on what are clearly important
> > issues."
> >
> >
> > Intellectual Property
> > U.S. Official Opposes 'Open Source' Talks At WIPO
> > by William New
> >
> > An international intellectual property body is not the place for
> > discussions about "open source" software, which allows users to view and
> >
> > modify the underlying code, because it falls outside of the
> > organization's mission, a senior U.S. official argued on Monday.
> > Reviewing the original mission of the World Intellectual Property
> > Organization (WIPO), said Lois Boland, the U.S. Patent and Trademark
> > Office (PTO) acting director of international relations, it is "clearly
> > limited to the protection of intellectual property. To have a meeting
> > whose primary objective is to waive or remove those protections seems to
> > go against the mission."
> >
> > Boland was referring to a July request by a group of scientists,
> > academics, open-source advocates and others for a meeting at WIPO on
> > "open and collaborative projects," including open-source software. The
> > WIPO secretariat initially replied favorably to the idea.
> > In a telephone interview, Boland gave several reasons why the
> > Geneva-based WIPO should not hold the meeting, including a tight budget
> > and late scheduling. She also said WIPO's agenda should be driven by
> > member nations, and the idea came from outside the organization.
> > Officials from the 179 WIPO nations will convene in late September to
> > decide their agenda for the next two years; the agenda has been in the
> > works for months and does not include open-development issues. "It would
> > have been somewhat unusual for such a meeting to materialize out of
> > nothing," Boland said.
> >
> > In the past six months, WIPO has had to cancel several meetings on
> > topics directly relevant to the organization due to budgetary issues,
> > she said, adding that with those problems, the organization should not
> > "go out on a limb and express receptivity" to an open-development
> > meeting. U.S. government officials have had "informal" communications
> > with WIPO,
> >
> > Boland said. A WIPO official said that since receiving a wide range of
> > communications, WIPO has stepped back from the idea of a meeting but has
> > not fully rejected the possibility of addressing the topic.
> >
> > The U.S. government has an interagency process for developing formal
> > positions at WIPO. A meeting that included officials from PTO and the
> > Copyright Office was held last Thursday at the State Department. The
> > Commerce Department and Office of the U.S. Trade Representative are part
> > of the interagency process, too.
> >
> > Boland said the United States "would certainly have some rather
> > bureaucratic objections" to WIPO considering a policy on open-source
> > software. "There are technical and legalistic arguments to that."
> > Open-source software is not protected under copyright law but only
> > contract law, which is not the domain of WIPO, she said. That point has
> > been heavily disputed by copyright experts.
> >
> > Boland suggested that the U.S. government supports open-source growth as
> > a development tool and she proposed it for consideration by a U.N. body
> > focused on development.
> >
> > She also reprimanded WIPO officials for publicly giving the impression
> > that the body might consider open-source issues. "We think people
> > working within the organization need to be better stewards of
> > interactions" with nonprofit groups and other non-member organizations,
> > she said.
> >
> >




From alalegre at fma.ph  Mon Aug 25 09:03:06 2003
From: alalegre at fma.ph (Alan G. Alegre)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:43 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Fw: [bytesforall_readers] Lawrence Lessig on US-WIPO conflict over open source
Message-ID: <01cf01c36adf$5116b600$9d00a8c0@mshome.net>

>From the Bytes for All list (just posted it to the WSIS Asia CSO list)

> ==========================================
>    Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 19:05:06 +0200
>    From: "Darius Cuplinskas" <cuplinsk@OSI.HU>
> Subject: Lawrence Lessig on US-WIPO conflict over open source
>
>
> the extremists in power
> Lawrence Lessig
>
> http://www.lessig.org/blog/archives/001436.shtml
>
>
> I don't even know how to begin this story, so stupid and extreme it is.
>
> The World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) was convinced by Jamie
> Love and others to hold a meeting about "open collaborative models to
> develop public goods." One of those models is, of course, open source and
> free software. Lobbyists for Microsoft and others apparently (according to
> this extraordinary story by Jonathan Krim
> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23422-2003Aug20.html>)
> started lobbying the US government to get the meeting cancelled. No
surprise
> there.
> Open source and free software is a competitor to MSFT's products.
> Lobbying is increasingly the way  competition is waged in America.
>
> But the astonishing part is the justification for the US opposing the
> meeting. According to the Post, Lois Boland, director of international
> relations for the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office, said "that open-source
> software runs counter to the mission of WIPO, which is to promote
> intellectual-property rights." As she is quoted as saying, "To hold a
> meeting which has as its purpose to disclaim or waive such rights seems to
> us to be contrary to the goals of WIPO."
>
> If Lois Boland said this, then she should be asked to resign. The level of
> ignorance built into that statement is astonishing, and the idea that a
> government official of her level would be so ignorant is an embarrassment.
>
> First, and most obviously, open-source software is based in
> intellectual-property rights. It can't exist (and free software can't have
> its effect) without it. Second, the goal of WIPO, and the goal of any
> government, should be to promote the right balance of
> intellectual-property  rights, not simply to promote intellectual property
> rights. And finally, if  an intellectual property right holder wants to
> "disclaim" or "waive" her  rights, what business is it of WIPOs? Why
> should WIPO oppose a copyright or  patent rights holder's choice to do
> with his or her rights what he or she  wants?
>
> These points are basic. They should be fundamental. That someone who
> doesn't understand them is at a high level of this government just shows
> how extreme IP policy in America has become.
>
>
> [see also the lively discussion following the post on Lessig's weblog]
>




From marzouki at ras.eu.org  Mon Aug 25 10:05:27 2003
From: marzouki at ras.eu.org (Meryem Marzouki)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:43 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Fwd: Online Event: Bridging the Digital Divides: Equal Access on the Internet
Message-ID: <44C2DC30-D6DB-11D7-86A3-0003935A8C90@ras.eu.org>

FYI.

D?but du message r?exp?di? :

> De: Will Doherty <doherty@onlinepolicy.org>
> Date: Lun 25 ao? 2003  09:12:11 Europe/Paris
>
> Please feel free to pass on this notice about an online
> event this GILC member organization is hosting on the
> various aspects of the digital divide (see below).
>
> One Internet With Equal Access for All,
>
> Will Doherty
> Online Policy Group, Inc.
> http://www.onlinepolicy.org
> -------
> Bridging the Digital Divides, Equal Access to the Internet
>
> Announcing TechSoup's ( http://www.techsoup.org/ ) latest
> online event: Bridging the Divides, Equal Access to the
> Internet.
>
> How does the digital divide affect communities based
> on income, class, and race? How does the digital divide
> extend to gender, sexual orientation, gender identity,
> disability, and age? What role do technologies like
> Internet blocking software and digital rights management
> play in the digital divide? How can we overcome the
> obstacles posed by the various aspects of the digital
> divide?
>
> Join us the week of August 25-29 in the Digital Divide
> Forum as we discuss the above questions and more:
> http://www.techsoup.org/forums/ 
> index.cfm?fuseaction=list&forum=2012&cid=117
>
> Topics Include:
> * Class-based disparity in available technology
> * The role race, ethnicity, and religion play in the
> digital divide
> * Women and technology
> * The impact of Internet blocking software on the lesbian,
> gay, bisexual, and transgender community
> * Access to technology for people with disabilities
>
> This event will be hosted by Will Doherty of the Online
> Policy Group ( http://www.onlinepolicy.org/ ). Co-hosts
> include Theeba Soundararajan of Witness ( http://www.witness.org/ )
> and Third World Majority ( http://www.thirdworldmajority.org/ ),
> Art McGee of AntiRacismNet ( http://www.antiracismnet.org/ )
> and Media Justice Network ( http://www.mediajustice.org/ ),
> Jayne Cravens of United Nations Volunteers
> ( http://www.unvolunteers.org/ ), Gwen Smith of Female to
> Male International ( http://www.ftmi.org/ ) and Gender.Org
> ( http://www.gender.org/ ), and Sharron Rush of Knowbility
> ( http://www.knowbility.org/ ).


From marzouki at ras.eu.org  Mon Aug 25 10:10:43 2003
From: marzouki at ras.eu.org (Meryem Marzouki)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:43 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Fwd: Informal notes on WSIS Briefing July 24 in Washington DC
Message-ID: <018AFE8A-D6DC-11D7-86A3-0003935A8C90@ras.eu.org>

FYI. These notes are from Manon Ress, representative of CPTech to the 
Human Rights Caucus. Meryem/

D?but du message r?exp?di? :

> De: Manon Anne Ress <manon.ress@cptech.org>
> Date: Ven 25 juil 2003  19:09:37 Europe/Paris
> ?: ecommerce <ecommerce@lists.essential.org>, Meryem Marzouki 
> <marzouki@ras.eu.org>
> Objet: Informal notes on WSIS Briefing July 24 in Washington DC
>
> Dear colleagues,
> These are my informal notes taken at the WSIS briefing yesterday.
>
> To summarize:  the meeting at the National Academy of Sciences 
> Building was chaired by Ambassador Gross who introduced the speakers, 
> Mr. Adama Samassekou, the President of PrepCom, and 3 Swiss 
> representatives. Maybe 30 people attended, mostly industry people.
>
> The speakers shared their ?vision? of what the World Summit on the 
> Information Society (the Summit) was about and stressed the importance 
> of having ?all stakeholders? included in the ?dialogue?.  The 
> importance or success of the Summit will be measured by how many head 
> of States attend and the ?implementation of ideas?.
>
> Paul Uhlir, (NAS) the host, asked about the issue of recognition of 
> the role of science, and specifically public science in the 
> Declaration.
>
> Dana Bullen (World Press Freedom Committee) asked why there was no 
> clear statement in the current draft about freedom of the Press, "a 
> major problem."
>
> Manon
>
> Contact info for speakers:
> Paul Uhlir" <PUhlir@nas.edu>
> Dana Bullen Ph. 703 715 9811
> Adama Samassekou
> +41 22 730 6360
> adama.samassekou@ties.itu.int
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Informal notes: On July 24, 2003, I attended the WSIS briefing given 
> by Mr. Adama Samassekou, Chair of the Prep Committee and by 
> representatives of the Swiss Government at the National Academy of 
> Sciences.  The meeting was short and sweet, (only 1 hour) because the 
> speakers (who had had breakfast with US private sector) were on their 
> way to the White House.  Today they have a few other meetings (not 
> open to the public) organized by associations etc.
>
> Ambassador Gross introduced Adama Samassekou, President of PrepCom, 
> Former Minister of Education (of Mali I think) and 3 other speakers  
> who were representatives from Switzerland.
>
> Mr. Samassekou praised the organizers of the briefing because he wants 
> ?all the stakeholders to be on board.?  He talked about the issues 
> we?re facing such as ?disease, poverty, hunger? and highlighted that 
> we have the means to end these terrible problems.  ?The WSIS is not?, 
> he said, a ?new UN Conference?, is not a ?Summit on new technologies? 
> it is an ?historical opportunity for what could be called a 
> shared-knowledge society that would allow all citizens to use ICTs.?
>
> Mr. Samassekou repeated figures he likes to mention ?91% of users are 
> from the North where only 19% of the population lives?.  A ?digital 
> revolution? is the first issue of this Summit and the second issue is 
> ?why the poor are getting poorer and the rich richer.?
> The development goals are a way to improve the Summit in the time 
> frame (2005).  The third issue is how to let the ?majority use 
> Internet to develop identity, culture etc.?  He also asks ?how to make 
> them real actors in democracy building in their countries and how to 
> share knowledge in the Internet.?
>
> For Mr. Samassekou, in order to be successful, the Summit must, by 
> 2005, change "attitudes and mentalities" with all stakeholders working 
> together.
>
> The following speakers shared the ?same vision? but highlighted the 
> task of ?doing a good Summit in Switzerland?.    Mr. F.(?) explained 
> why this Summit is not ?just a lot of talk? and that what is needed is 
> a new kind of Summit.  For him the subject (Information Society) is 
> new, as well as the architecture, the openness and the tripartite 
> aspect.  His measure of success depends on the participation of heads 
> of States, the quality of the dialogue and sustainability in 2d phase 
> [Tunis] that will be based on ?principles and action plans done in 
> Geneva?
>
> The next speaker explained what ICT4D is about:  ?a platform 
> showcasing about 200 to 300 Projects implemented in some 50 countries 
> within the framework of development aid?  The Palexpo is already 80% 
> booked and invited people to participate.
>
> Paul Uhlir made a statement urging for more clarity regarding the 
> ?role for the Science community?, mentioned the instrumental role of 
> public science  for ex. satellites, internet, search engine, all 
> developed in the public sector and commercialized by the private 
> sector in the last decades.  He described briefly the work the 
> National Academies of Sciences with other international organization 
> such as UNESCO.  While there has been recognition of the role of 
> sciences in Paris, Mr. Uhlir hopes that there will be ?linkage in the 
> Summit and implementation?.
>
> Dana Bullen (World Press Freedom Committee) stated that his 
> organization is still ?concerned that the text fails to provide clear 
> language regarding freedom of the Press?.
> If this is an oversight, he said, it should be corrected quickly, if 
> not ?we have a major problem?.
>
> Ellen Shaw (sp?) US Chamber of Commerce and ICC referred to an earlier 
> conversation with the speakers (?As I was saying this morning...?) and 
> repeated that the focus should be ?on creating a competitive 
> environment for business to invest with firm commitment by leaders?.  
> She was pleased that ?high level businesses were encouraged to 
> participate?.
>
> Regarding the comments by the World Press Freedom, the Swiss 
> Representative stated that this is ?controversial? and ?in bracket?, 
> ?we?ll do it? he said ?but in a proper way, we have to be sensitive to 
> culture, for example having pornographic materials on satellites is a 
> problem in Arab countries.?
>
> For Mr. Samassekou, thanking Mr. Bullen, it?s all about ?a better 
> society, poverty is caused also by ignorance, building knowledge is 
> fighting poverty.?  He stated that in Mali any citizen can develop a 
> newspaper...and that this matter needs to be address within the 
> process even if controversial.
>
> David Gross asked if Microsoft wanted to add anything and mentioned 
> the upcoming ?interactive breakfast? for industries and the speakers.
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Manon Anne Ress
> Consumer Project on Technology
> www.cptech.org
> PO Box 19367, Washington, DC 20036
> manon.ress@cptech.org, voice: 1.202.387.8030, fax: 1.202.234.5176
>
>


From marzouki at ras.eu.org  Mon Aug 25 10:11:11 2003
From: marzouki at ras.eu.org (Meryem Marzouki)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:43 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Fwd: [Fwd: [Ecommerce] IFJ Press release on WSIS]
Message-ID: <124DB14B-D6DC-11D7-86A3-0003935A8C90@ras.eu.org>

FYI.

D?but du message r?exp?di? :

> De: Manon Anne Ress <manon.ress@cptech.org>
> Date: Ven 25 juil 2003  22:59:35 Europe/Paris
> ?: Meryem Marzouki <marzouki@ras.eu.org>
> Objet: [Fwd: [Ecommerce] IFJ Press release on WSIS]
>
> FYI
> -- 
> Manon Anne Ress
> Consumer Project on Technology
> www.cptech.org
> PO Box 19367, Washington, DC 20036
> manon.ress@cptech.org, voice: 1.202.387.8030, fax: 1.202.234.5176
>
> De: Manon Anne Ress <manon.ress@cptech.org>
> Date: Ven 25 juil 2003  19:37:05 Europe/Paris
> ?: ecommerce <ecommerce@lists.essential.org>
> Objet: [Ecommerce] IFJ Press release on WSIS
>
>
> Journalists Fight Back After Governments "Fail Test of Free 
> Expression" In World Summit Talks
> 25/07/2003
> Journalists? leaders from Latin America have launched a new demand for
> governments to back journalists? rights and free expression at the 
> weekend.
> This comes only days after political leaders met in Paris to prepare 
> the
> agenda for December?s World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS), 
> and ignored demands to put press and media rights at the heart of the 
> debate.
>
> http://www.ifj.org/default.asp?Index=1812&Language=EN
> -- 
> Manon Anne Ress
> Consumer Project on Technology
> www.cptech.org
> PO Box 19367, Washington, DC 20036
> manon.ress@cptech.org, voice: 1.202.387.8030, fax: 1.202.234.5176
>
>
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>
>
>
>


From marzouki at ras.eu.org  Mon Aug 25 10:12:18 2003
From: marzouki at ras.eu.org (Meryem Marzouki)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:43 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Fwd: [Fwd: [Ecommerce] More on WSIS:  notes from a colleague in Paris and Techdaily Story]
Message-ID: <39FF32CE-D6DC-11D7-86A3-0003935A8C90@ras.eu.org>

FYI.

D?but du message r?exp?di? :

> De: Manon Anne Ress <manon.ress@cptech.org>
> Date: Ven 25 juil 2003  23:00:12 Europe/Paris
> ?: Meryem Marzouki <marzouki@ras.eu.org>
> Objet: [Fwd: [Ecommerce] More on WSIS:  notes from a colleague in 
> Paris and Techdaily Story]
>
> FYI
> -- 
> Manon Anne Ress
> Consumer Project on Technology
> www.cptech.org
> PO Box 19367, Washington, DC 20036
> manon.ress@cptech.org, voice: 1.202.387.8030, fax: 1.202.234.5176
>
> De: Manon Anne Ress <manon.ress@cptech.org>
> Date: Ven 25 juil 2003  22:53:51 Europe/Paris
> ?: ecommerce <ecommerce@venice.essential.org>
> Objet: [Ecommerce] More on WSIS:  notes from a colleague in Paris and 
> Techdaily Story
>
>
> More on WSIS:
> A French colleague who had attended the Paris meeting wrote:
> "Civil Society Members and businesses were able to "express opinions" 
> but observers' recommendations, as they appear in the various drafts 
> were not really taken into account.
> In reality, discussions focused on member states contributions 
> only...when articles needed more attention(article 10 esp), there were 
> creation of working groups.
> The draft has been reduced and will be discussed again at PrepCom3 
> (Geneva, September 15-26).  The goal is to get to two documents of 
> about five pages."
>
> Story in Techdaily on WSIS
> July 25, 2003
> Focus For Information Society Summit Turns To Sticky Issues
> by William New
>
>      Representatives from more than 150 nations have moved closer to 
> consensus on a declaration for the upcoming World Summit on the 
> Information Society (WSIS), but sticky issues remain, officials said 
> on Friday.
>      In a press briefing in Washington, Adama Samassekou of Mali, the 
> head of the summit preparatory committee, chief negotiator David Gross 
> of the U.S. State Department, and Marc Furrer, secretary of the Swiss 
> federal office of communications, acknowledged that "controversial" 
> issues must be addressed by the December summit.
>      The issues include Internet governance, including unsolicited 
> e-mail or spam, "open source" software (which allows users to change 
> the underlying code), and the freedom and security of information. 
> Other topics will be the benefits of open markets versus state 
> monopolies and how to improve information infrastructure in developing 
> countries.
>      Between 6,000 and 8,000 people are expected at the Geneva summit, 
> officials said. The hope is that the summit will produce specific 
> partnership actions for governments and non-governmental organizations 
> and companies in areas like e-government and e-education. It also will 
> produce guidelines for governments to follow in developing their own 
> national strategies for technology. But the results of the event will 
> be non-binding.
>      Samassekou cited three main goals of the summit: to spread 
> technologies to those without access; accelerate the use of 
> information and communications technologies as a development tool; and 
> recognize cultural diversity, such as by making the Internet available 
> to people in their native languages.
>      But officials, particularly Gross, said the WSIS should not be 
> the place to address the details of Internet issues. The draft 
> declaration contains several alternate proposals on Internet 
> governance to be negotiated in the coming weeks. The United States 
> backs a principle of openness and free speech on the Internet led by 
> the private sector, while other countries have shown interest in 
> assigning responsibility for Internet matters to a multilateral body.
>      Samassekou said that at last week's meeting of WSIS negotiators 
> in Paris, he met on the issue with the president of the Internet 
> Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, the private organization 
> that manages the domain-name system.
>      Another top U.S. objective is to include clearer commitments to 
> the rule of law and freedom of information, Gross said.
>      At the Paris meeting, negotiators cut about 30 pages from the 
> draft summit declaration, which now stands at 12 pages. Work on the 
> larger and more complicated action plan will intensify after a 
> drafting group finishes preparations on the document in mid-August.
>      The next formal negotiation will be a two-week preparatory 
> committee meeting in Geneva in mid-September, at which Gross said he 
> hopes nations will finalize the declaration and make significant 
> progress on the action plan.
>      Samassekou said it is important to bring stakeholders in the 
> information society -- governments, the private sector and 
> non-governmental organizations -- together for one purpose. "I think 
> we can say there is a great mistrust between them," Samassekou said.
>      The two-stage summit will occur Dec. 10-12 in Geneva and Nov. 
> 16-18, 2005, in Tunis, Tunisia.
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Manon Anne Ress
> Consumer Project on Technology
> www.cptech.org
> PO Box 19367, Washington, DC 20036
> manon.ress@cptech.org, voice: 1.202.387.8030, fax: 1.202.234.5176
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Ecommerce mailing list
> Ecommerce@lists.essential.org
> http://lists.essential.org/mailman/listinfo/ecommerce
>
>
>
>


From jgagain at unadr.org  Mon Aug 25 18:30:51 2003
From: jgagain at unadr.org (John R. Gagain Jr.)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:43 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] RE: [WSIS-CT] Next steps for Content and Themes
In-Reply-To: <200308250247.h7P2l9Uf026633@ecuanex.net.ec>
Message-ID: <AFENLBFHPIGCAPCJDMCJEEELCHAA.jgagain@unadr.org>

Dear Sally:

I like what you have outlined in this email below.  I think these are three
concrete steps that will help to bring Civil Society together for probably
the most important Prepcom of the WSIS process.

I particular like point No. 01 below.  I think that CS needs to be more
active and engaging substantively on the two main documents of the Summit
(Declaration and Plan of Action), especially due to the fact that the
purpose of Prepcom 3 is to complete these documents for the Summit in
December.

My comment is that perhaps we can have a one-two page document ready before
Prepcom 3 for all of civil society and especially the newcomers (possibly
could be distributed at the orientation session sponsored by CONGO).  It
would include a list of "past caucuses", possible "new caucuses", how to
schedule meeting space, etc.

* Structured Negotiation Strategy for Prepcom 3

The purpose of this document would be to create a ?structured negotiation
strategy?.  For example, when a section of the Plan of Action is being
discussed (i.e. Section 4. Capacity building: human resources development,
education, and training), this caucus could be ready within a moments notice
to address this issue.

* Civil Society ?Informal Section-by-Section Dialogue? with Governments at
Prepcom 3

This is particularly important due to the proposal made by the Civil Society
Bureau to the Governmental Bureau during its Joint Meeting in Paris, which
included: an ?informal section-by-section dialogue?, which would take place
between Governments and Civil Society on the wording and content of the
documents being discussed by Sub-Committee 2 at PrepCom 3.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that CT had a list of thematic
caucuses circulating during Prepcom 2 in February.  If so, could CT update
this document and integrate it as part of the Structured Negotiation
Strategy for Prepcom 3.

In regards, to points number 2 (priorities document) and 3 (our own civil
society declaration and action plan), I believe that these are also quite
important, especially number three should the governments be unable to agree
in time for the Summit in December.   I think the majority of our energy
could be spent on these two points between Prepcom 3 and the Summit in
December.

I look forward to your comments to my comments.  Thank you for sending the
email at such an opportune time as Prepcom 3 so rapidly approaches.

Sincerely,

John R. Gagain Jr.
Think Tank Focal Point
WSIS Civil Society Bureau
World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS)
http://www.funglode.org/wsis/

Calle Capit?n Eugenio de Marchena, No. 26
Edificio de la Fundaci?n Global Democracia y Desarrollo
Ensanche La Esperilla
Santo Domingo, Rep?blica Dominicana

Tel: 809.685.9966 Ext. 2201
Fax: 212-898-1115

Email: j.gagain@funglode.org
Web: http://www.funglode.org



-----Original Message-----
From: ct-admin@wsis-cs.org [mailto:ct-admin@wsis-cs.org]On Behalf Of
Sally Burch - ALAI
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 7:43 PM
To: ct@wsis-cs.org
Subject: [WSIS-CT] Next steps for Content and Themes


Friends,

We have received some new input for the CT priorities document,
and now need to organize next steps, as time is getting short
before the Prepcom, especially if we wish to produce a new
consensus document.

The latest draft of the Declaration following the intersessional
discussions, is now up on the WSIS website; the Action Plan is
also supposed to be posted by now (has anyone seen it?)  On the
basis of these document, each caucus and thematic working group
should be looking to see what is and isn't included in relation to
your priorities.

We propose three parallel steps to prepare content for the
Prepcom.  Please revise and answer the questions at the end.

1) Caucuses have 3 weeks to draw up statements in reaction to
the latest drafts.  These might be adapted according to
circumstances during the course of the Prepcom, but there seems
to be a general feeling that at least the basic ideas should be
agreed on in each caucus before the Prepcom starts.

2) Based on our present priorities document and the feedback
received, a drafting group needs to start work now on a new
consensus statement for Prepcom 3.  Our suggestion is that this
statement should be adapted to the present content of the official
draft documents, so as to focus only on certain strong priorities.  It
should therefore be possible to keep this document shorter than
the previous version.

3) Many have proposed that we need our own civil society
declaration and action plan.  One that is not just a reaction to what
the governments do and don't say, but that covers all the things we
feel should be in the documents, in our own terminology.  This
would obviously be a longer document.

Our suggestion is that, based on all the input received, including
our statements from previous prepcoms etc., a drafting group
works first on drawing up a CS declaration.  A first draft should
ideally be ready for comment and feed-back during Prepcom 3, and
then we could continue to work on it before December.  In Geneva
we can evaluate whether we will also be able to draw up a CS
action plan by December.  Work on this document might start now
or could wait until we have the Prepcom 3 statement drafted
(depending on who is willing to work on what).

QUESTIONS:

a) Do you agree with this proposal?  Have you any comments?

b) Which of these three steps are you willing to work on?  Are you
able to join a drafting group for either (2 - Prepcom statement)
and/or (3 - CS Declaration) during the next 3 weeks?

Thanks,

Sally Burch and Bill McIver

---------------------------------
Sally Burch - Directora Ejecutiva
Agencia Latinoamericana de Informaci?n - ALAI
Casilla 17-12-877, Quito, Ecuador
sburch@alainet.org      http://alainet.org
Tel: (593 2) 250 5074  222 1570  Fax: (593 2) 250 5073
_______________________________________________
Ct mailing list
Ct@wsis-cs.org
http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/ct
Civil Society Plenary: http://www.wsis-cs.org/
Content & Themes Documents:
http://bscw.fit.fraunhofer.de/pub/bscw.cgi/0/42953798




From j.gagain at funglode.org  Mon Aug 25 18:31:16 2003
From: j.gagain at funglode.org (John R. Gagain Jr.)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:43 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] RE: [WSIS-CT] Next steps for Content and Themes
In-Reply-To: <AFENLBFHPIGCAPCJDMCJEEELCHAA.jgagain@unadr.org>
Message-ID: <AFENLBFHPIGCAPCJDMCJIEELCHAA.j.gagain@funglode.org>

Dear Sally:

I like what you have outlined in this email below.  I think these are three
concrete steps that will help to bring Civil Society together for probably
the most important Prepcom of the WSIS process.

I particular like point No. 01 below.  I think that CS needs to be more
active and engaging substantively on the two main documents of the Summit
(Declaration and Plan of Action), especially due to the fact that the
purpose of Prepcom 3 is to complete these documents for the Summit in
December.

My comment is that perhaps we can have a one-two page document ready before
Prepcom 3 for all of civil society and especially the newcomers (possibly
could be distributed at the orientation session sponsored by CONGO).  It
would include a list of "past caucuses", possible "new caucuses", how to
schedule meeting space, etc.

* Structured Negotiation Strategy for Prepcom 3

The purpose of this document would be to create a ?structured negotiation
strategy?.  For example, when a section of the Plan of Action is being
discussed (i.e. Section 4. Capacity building: human resources development,
education, and training), this caucus could be ready within a moments notice
to address this issue.

* Civil Society ?Informal Section-by-Section Dialogue? with Governments at
Prepcom 3

This is particularly important due to the proposal made by the Civil Society
Bureau to the Governmental Bureau during its Joint Meeting in Paris, which
included: an ?informal section-by-section dialogue?, which would take place
between Governments and Civil Society on the wording and content of the
documents being discussed by Sub-Committee 2 at PrepCom 3.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that CT had a list of thematic
caucuses circulating during Prepcom 2 in February.  If so, could CT update
this document and integrate it as part of the Structured Negotiation
Strategy for Prepcom 3.

In regards, to points number 2 (priorities document) and 3 (our own civil
society declaration and action plan), I believe that these are also quite
important, especially number three should the governments be unable to agree
in time for the Summit in December.   I think the majority of our energy
could be spent on these two points between Prepcom 3 and the Summit in
December.

I look forward to your comments to my comments.  Thank you for sending the
email at such an opportune time as Prepcom 3 so rapidly approaches.

Sincerely,

John R. Gagain Jr.
Think Tank Focal Point
WSIS Civil Society Bureau
World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS)
http://www.funglode.org/wsis/

Calle Capit?n Eugenio de Marchena, No. 26
Edificio de la Fundaci?n Global Democracia y Desarrollo
Ensanche La Esperilla
Santo Domingo, Rep?blica Dominicana

Tel: 809.685.9966 Ext. 2201
Fax: 212-898-1115

Email: j.gagain@funglode.org
Web: http://www.funglode.org



-----Original Message-----
From: ct-admin@wsis-cs.org [mailto:ct-admin@wsis-cs.org]On Behalf Of
Sally Burch - ALAI
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 7:43 PM
To: ct@wsis-cs.org
Subject: [WSIS-CT] Next steps for Content and Themes


Friends,

We have received some new input for the CT priorities document,
and now need to organize next steps, as time is getting short
before the Prepcom, especially if we wish to produce a new
consensus document.

The latest draft of the Declaration following the intersessional
discussions, is now up on the WSIS website; the Action Plan is
also supposed to be posted by now (has anyone seen it?)  On the
basis of these document, each caucus and thematic working group
should be looking to see what is and isn't included in relation to
your priorities.

We propose three parallel steps to prepare content for the
Prepcom.  Please revise and answer the questions at the end.

1) Caucuses have 3 weeks to draw up statements in reaction to
the latest drafts.  These might be adapted according to
circumstances during the course of the Prepcom, but there seems
to be a general feeling that at least the basic ideas should be
agreed on in each caucus before the Prepcom starts.

2) Based on our present priorities document and the feedback
received, a drafting group needs to start work now on a new
consensus statement for Prepcom 3.  Our suggestion is that this
statement should be adapted to the present content of the official
draft documents, so as to focus only on certain strong priorities.  It
should therefore be possible to keep this document shorter than
the previous version.

3) Many have proposed that we need our own civil society
declaration and action plan.  One that is not just a reaction to what
the governments do and don't say, but that covers all the things we
feel should be in the documents, in our own terminology.  This
would obviously be a longer document.

Our suggestion is that, based on all the input received, including
our statements from previous prepcoms etc., a drafting group
works first on drawing up a CS declaration.  A first draft should
ideally be ready for comment and feed-back during Prepcom 3, and
then we could continue to work on it before December.  In Geneva
we can evaluate whether we will also be able to draw up a CS
action plan by December.  Work on this document might start now
or could wait until we have the Prepcom 3 statement drafted
(depending on who is willing to work on what).

QUESTIONS:

a) Do you agree with this proposal?  Have you any comments?

b) Which of these three steps are you willing to work on?  Are you
able to join a drafting group for either (2 - Prepcom statement)
and/or (3 - CS Declaration) during the next 3 weeks?

Thanks,

Sally Burch and Bill McIver

---------------------------------
Sally Burch - Directora Ejecutiva
Agencia Latinoamericana de Informaci?n - ALAI
Casilla 17-12-877, Quito, Ecuador
sburch@alainet.org      http://alainet.org
Tel: (593 2) 250 5074  222 1570  Fax: (593 2) 250 5073
_______________________________________________
Ct mailing list
Ct@wsis-cs.org
http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/ct
Civil Society Plenary: http://www.wsis-cs.org/
Content & Themes Documents:
http://bscw.fit.fraunhofer.de/pub/bscw.cgi/0/42953798




From amalidesilva at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 26 05:34:43 2003
From: amalidesilva at yahoo.com (Amali De Silva)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:43 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Fwd: Informal notes on WSIS Briefing July 24 in Washington DC
In-Reply-To: <018AFE8A-D6DC-11D7-86A3-0003935A8C90@ras.eu.org>
Message-ID: <20030826043443.72785.qmail@web21305.mail.yahoo.com>

Thank you for this communication. This list really has the potential to become a civil society "shared - knowledge" community.
 
Amali De Silva-Mitchell, Vice President, Vancouver Community Network, Canada.

Meryem Marzouki <marzouki@ras.eu.org> wrote:
FYI. These notes are from Manon Ress, representative of CPTech to the 
Human Rights Caucus. Meryem/

Début du message réexpédié :

> De: Manon Anne Ress 
> Date: Ven 25 juil 2003 19:09:37 Europe/Paris
> À: ecommerce , Meryem Marzouki 
> 
> Objet: Informal notes on WSIS Briefing July 24 in Washington DC
>
> Dear colleagues,
> These are my informal notes taken at the WSIS briefing yesterday.
>
> To summarize: the meeting at the National Academy of Sciences 
> Building was chaired by Ambassador Gross who introduced the speakers, 
> Mr. Adama Samassekou, the President of PrepCom, and 3 Swiss 
> representatives. Maybe 30 people attended, mostly industry people.
>
> The speakers shared their “vision” of what the World Summit on the 
> Information Society (the Summit) was about and stressed the importance 
> of having “all stakeholders” included in the “dialogue”. The 
> importance or success of the Summit will be measured by how many head 
> of States attend and the “implementation of ideas”.
>
> Paul Uhlir, (NAS) the host, asked about the issue of recognition of 
> the role of science, and specifically public science in the 
> Declaration.
>
> Dana Bullen (World Press Freedom Committee) asked why there was no 
> clear statement in the current draft about freedom of the Press, "a 
> major problem."
>
> Manon
>
> Contact info for speakers:
> Paul Uhlir" 

> Dana Bullen Ph. 703 715 9811
> Adama Samassekou
> +41 22 730 6360
> adama.samassekou@ties.itu.int
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Informal notes: On July 24, 2003, I attended the WSIS briefing given 
> by Mr. Adama Samassekou, Chair of the Prep Committee and by 
> representatives of the Swiss Government at the National Academy of 
> Sciences. The meeting was short and sweet, (only 1 hour) because the 
> speakers (who had had breakfast with US private sector) were on their 
> way to the White House. Today they have a few other meetings (not 
> open to the public) organized by associations etc.
>
> Ambassador Gross introduced Adama Samassekou, President of PrepCom, 
> Former Minister of Education (of Mali I think) and 3 other speakers 
> who were representatives from Switzerland.
>
> Mr. Samassekou praised the organizers of the briefing because he wants 
> “all the stakeholders to be on board.” He talked about the issues 
> we’re facing such as “disease, poverty, hunger” and highlighted that 
> we have the means to end these terrible problems. “The WSIS is not”, 
> he said, a “new UN Conference”, is not a “Summit on new technologies” 
> it is an “historical opportunity for what could be called a 
> shared-knowledge society that would allow all citizens to use ICTs.”
>
> Mr. Samassekou repeated figures he likes to mention “91% of users are 
> from the North where only 19% of the population lives”. A “digital 
> revolution” is the first issue of this Summit and the second issue is 
> “why the poor are getting poorer and the rich richer.”
> The development goals are a way to improve the Summit in the time 
> frame (2005). The third issue is how to let the “majority use 
> Internet to develop identity, culture etc.” He also asks “how to make 
> them real actors in democracy building in their countries and how to 
> share knowledge in the Internet.”
>
> For Mr. Samassekou, in order to be successful, the Summit must, by 
> 2005, change "attitudes and mentalities" with all stakeholders working 
> together.
>
> The following speakers shared the “same vision” but highlighted the 
> task of “doing a good Summit in Switzerland”. Mr. F.(?) explained 
> why this Summit is not “just a lot of talk” and that what is needed is 
> a new kind of Summit. For him the subject (Information Society) is 
> new, as well as the architecture, the openness and the tripartite 
> aspect. His measure of success depends on the participation of heads 
> of States, the quality of the dialogue and sustainability in 2d phase 
> [Tunis] that will be based on “principles and action plans done in 
> Geneva”
>
> The next speaker explained what ICT4D is about: “a platform 
> showcasing about 200 to 300 Projects implemented in some 50 countries 
> within the framework of development aid” The Palexpo is already 80% 
> booked and invited people to participate.
>
> Paul Uhlir made a statement urging for more clarity regarding the 
> “role for the Science community”, mentioned the instrumental role of 
> public science for ex. satellites, internet, search engine, all 
> developed in the public sector and commercialized by the private 
> sector in the last decades. He described briefly the work the 
> National Academies of Sciences with other international organization 
> such as UNESCO. While there has been recognition of the role of 
> sciences in Paris, Mr. Uhlir hopes that there will be “linkage in the 
> Summit and implementation”.
>
> Dana Bullen (World Press Freedom Committee) stated that his 
> organization is still “concerned that the text fails to provide clear 
> language regarding freedom of the Press”.
> If this is an oversight, he said, it should be corrected quickly, if 
> not “we have a major problem”.
>
> Ellen Shaw (sp?) US Chamber of Commerce and ICC referred to an earlier 
> conversation with the speakers (“As I was saying this morning...”) and 
> repeated that the focus should be “on creating a competitive 
> environment for business to invest with firm commitment by leaders”. 
> She was pleased that “high level businesses were encouraged to 
> participate”.
>
> Regarding the comments by the World Press Freedom, the Swiss 
> Representative stated that this is “controversial” and “in bracket”, 
> “we’ll do it” he said “but in a proper way, we have to be sensitive to 
> culture, for example having pornographic materials on satellites is a 
> problem in Arab countries.”
>
> For Mr. Samassekou, thanking Mr. Bullen, it’s all about “a better 
> society, poverty is caused also by ignorance, building knowledge is 
> fighting poverty.” He stated that in Mali any citizen can develop a 
> newspaper...and that this matter needs to be address within the 
> process even if controversial.
>
> David Gross asked if Microsoft wanted to add anything and mentioned 
> the upcoming “interactive breakfast” for industries and the speakers.
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Manon Anne Ress
> Consumer Project on Technology
> www.cptech.org
> PO Box 19367, Washington, DC 20036
> manon.ress@cptech.org, voice: 1.202.387.8030, fax: 1.202.234.5176
>
>

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From: amalidesilva at yahoo.com (Amali De Silva)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:43 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] FYI - ICT for Development - OECD - Summary Record
Message-ID: <20030826051526.79303.qmail@web21305.mail.yahoo.com>



Information and Communication Technology for Development - General Interest
Summary Record of ICT Forum 4-5 March 2003 - see link below

"The OECD Directorates - Development Co-operation (DCD) and Science, Technology and Industry (STI) - collaborated with the Centre for Co-operation with Non-Members to organise this Forum jointly with the UN agencies and the World Bank.

The Forum formed part of the OECD response to international calls, such as UN ICT Task Force and G8 DOT Force, and provided a platform for discussion leading up to the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS)......"

Information and Communication Technology for Development
Summary Record of ICT Forum 4-5 March 2003 
 
 
http://www.oecd.org/document/20/0,2340,en_2649_34835_2506964_1_1_1_1,00.html
 
 
 
Amali De Silva-Mitchell, Vice President, Vancouver Community Network, Canada
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From thomruddy at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 26 11:30:56 2003
From: thomruddy at yahoo.com (Thomas Ruddy)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:43 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Controversy over WIPO meeting on open collaborative models to develop public goods
In-Reply-To: <01c801c36adf$0719f9e0$9d00a8c0@mshome.net>
Message-ID: <20030826103056.9686.qmail@web41508.mail.yahoo.com>

List readers,
I have now placed links to relevant publications which
are otherwise hard to assemble. They include a
discussion with 76 comments to Lessig's statement.
Scroll down to the WIPO meeting date "September 22 to
October 1" on this
http://www.wsis.ethz.ch/calendar.htm
Thomas Ruddy

--- "Alan G. Alegre" <alalegre@fma.ph> wrote:
> Posted this earlier on another list, apropo to
> Thomas Ruddy's earlier post
> 
> > FYI
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Michael Gurstein <mgurst@vcn.bc.ca>
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: random-bits-admin@venice.essential.org
> > >
> > >
> > > August 19, 2003. Technology Daily PM Edition
> > >
> > > --
> > > Intellectual Property
> > > Global Group's Shift On 'Open Source' Meeting
> Spurs Stir
> > > by William New
> > >
> > > A request for a meeting on open development
> issues has plunged the
> > > Geneva-based World Intellectual Property
> Organization (WIPO) into a
> > > Washington political battle, causing it to shift
> its position on the
> > > issue.
> > >
> > > At issue is whether WIPO should hold a meeting
> next year on "open and
> > > collaborative projects" such as "open source"
> software, which allows
> > > users to view and modify underlying code.
> > >
> > > The meeting was proposed in a July 7 letter sent
> to WIPO Director
> > > General Kamil Idris by 68 distinguished
> scientists, academics,
> > > technologists, open-source advocates, consumer
> advocates, librarians,
> > > industry representatives and economists
> worldwide.
> > >
> > > Although the letter cited a broad range of open
> collaborative projects
> > > such as the World Wide Web and the Human Genome
> Project, the fight has
> > > focused on open-source software and on one
> signer of the letter -- James
> > > Love, director of the Consumer Project on
> Technology, who has actively
> > > pushed for the meeting.
> > >
> > > WIPO's initial response to the idea was so
> favorable that proponents
> > > began planning for a meeting. After receiving
> the letter, Francis Gurry,
> > > WIPO's assistant director and legal counsel,
> e-mailed a statement to a
> > > Nature magazine reporter calling such open
> development models "a very
> > > important and interesting development."
> > >
> > > "The director general of WIPO looks forward with
> enthusiasm to taking up
> > > the invitation to organize a conference to
> explore the scope and
> > > application of these models as vehicles for
> encouraging innovation," he
> > > wrote.
> > >
> > > But a few weeks later, WIPO backed off the idea.
> Gurry said he and other
> > > WIPO officials received "many calls" from
> consumer groups, trade
> > > associations, professional associations and
> representatives from
> > > governments.
> > >
> > > "What happened in the intervening weeks is that
> a request for an open
> > > discussion on a range of 'projects' became
> transformed into an
> > > increasingly domestically, as opposed to
> internationally, oriented,
> > > polarized political and trade debate about one
> only of those 'projects',
> > > namely open-source software," Gurry told
> National Journal's Technology
> > > Daily on Tuesday. "In those circumstances, the
> possibility of conducting
> > > a policy discussion on intellectual property of
> the sort that might be
> > > appropriate for an international organization
> devoted to intellectual
> > > property became increasingly remote."
> > >
> > > U.S. government officials have argued that WIPO
> is an inappropriate
> > > place for such a meeting.
> > >
> > > One developing country representative to WIPO on
> Monday expressed
> > > disappointment at hearing that the meeting is in
> doubt, and Love and
> > > representatives from the Computer and
> Communications Industry
> > > Association (CCIA) were furious to learn of the
> shift. Love last week
> > > called the decision a "temporary setback," and
> vowed, "We're going to
> > > make this happen." But for meeting opponents, he
> said, it would be "as
> > > if you made an atheist pope for the day."
> > >
> > > CCIA President Ed Black said on Tuesday: "Does
> this indicate that WIPO
> > > is abdicating authority and responsibility for
> these issues, including
> > > open source for the future? If so, we will all
> live by that, but then so
> > > must they. They should step up the plate or step
> aside. ... It is
> > > inexplicable that they would shut the door on
> what are clearly important
> > > issues."
> > >
> > >
> > > Intellectual Property
> > > U.S. Official Opposes 'Open Source' Talks At
> WIPO
> > > by William New
> > >
> > > An international intellectual property body is
> not the place for
> > > discussions about "open source" software, which
> allows users to view and
> > >
> > > modify the underlying code, because it falls
> outside of the
> > > organization's mission, a senior U.S. official
> argued on Monday.
> > > Reviewing the original mission of the World
> Intellectual Property
> > > Organization (WIPO), said Lois Boland, the U.S.
> Patent and Trademark
> > > Office (PTO) acting director of international
> relations, it is "clearly
> > > limited to the protection of intellectual
> property. To have a meeting
> > > whose primary objective is to waive or remove
> those protections seems to
> > > go against the mission."
> > >
> > > Boland was referring to a July request by a
> group of scientists,
> > > academics, open-source advocates and others for
> a meeting at WIPO on
> > > "open and collaborative projects," including
> open-source software. The
> > > WIPO secretariat initially replied favorably to
> the idea.
> > > In a telephone interview, Boland gave several
> reasons why the
> > > Geneva-based WIPO should not hold the meeting,
> including a tight budget
> > > and late scheduling. She also said WIPO's agenda
> should be driven by
> > > member nations, and the idea came from outside
> the organization.
> > > Officials from the 179 WIPO nations will convene
> in late September to
> > > decide their agenda for the next two years; the
> agenda has been in the
> > > works for months and does not include
> open-development issues. "It would
> > > have been somewhat unusual for such a meeting to
> materialize out of
> > > nothing," Boland said.
> > >
> > > In the past six months, WIPO has had to cancel
> several meetings on
> > > topics directly relevant to the organization due
> to budgetary issues,
> > > she said, adding that with those problems, the
> organization should not
> > > "go out on a limb and express receptivity" to an
> open-development
> > > meeting. U.S. government officials have had
> "informal" communications
> > > with WIPO,
> > >
> > > Boland said. A WIPO official said that since
> receiving a wide range of
> > > communications, WIPO has stepped back from the
> idea of a meeting but has
> > > not fully rejected the possibility of addressing
> the topic.
> > >
> > > The U.S. government has an interagency process
> for developing formal
> 
=== message truncated ===


From vpeugeot at vecam.org  Wed Aug 27 23:28:27 2003
From: vpeugeot at vecam.org (Val=?ISO-8859-1?B?6Q==?=rie Peugeot)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:43 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] 2 points
Message-ID: <BB72FD2B.EEC5%vpeugeot@vecam.org>

hello to every body,

after catching up with my mails just a few comments

1/ totally supporting Sean 5 points paper (+ francis's 6 point)
But I do not see the point for the task force, the debate should not be re
opened, we have to concentrate our energy on other issues.
The last proposal (4th of august) seems fine.

2/ regarding translation issues
Francophonia is keen on helping us with translation into French at least.
They are paying the travel expanses for one or 2 people who could attend
prepcom3 and help us with the translation of CS documents.

I almost found those people I think, but if you have other suggestions,
please let me know.

This is only for Prepcom, but is better then nothing...

have a good day,

Val?rie






From jgagain at unadr.org  Thu Aug 28 02:58:51 2003
From: jgagain at unadr.org (John R. Gagain Jr.)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:43 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] RE: [WSIS-CT] Next steps for Content and Themes
In-Reply-To: <200308280118.h7S1Ief21244@mweb.alainet.org>
Message-ID: <AFENLBFHPIGCAPCJDMCJIEKECHAA.jgagain@unadr.org>

Dear Sally,

Thank you for the email and your response.  You ask below if anyone would
like to volunteer to draft the guidelines for the caucuses.  I would like to
volunteer to assume this role.  Please put me down.  I would be happy to
work on it with someone else.

Also, I did not receive Susanna's proposal.  Could someone send that to me.
I did receive some emails from Adam, but I dont remember reading anything
about "caucus work that's focused on direct input", which is an excellent
idea and similar to what I proposed.  Adam, could you send / re-send me what
Sally mentions you stated?

John


-----Original Message-----
From: ct-admin@wsis-cs.org [mailto:ct-admin@wsis-cs.org]On Behalf Of
Sally Burch - ALAI
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 7:58 PM
To: ct@wsis-cs.org
Subject: Re: [WSIS-CT] Next steps for Content and Themes


Hi all,

Thanks to those who have commented on this proposal and to
those who have offered to collaborate with drafting.

I agree with Susanna's proposal that a CS declaration should be
the result of a discussion and not just a collation.  This is the main
drawback of not having had a space of our own (civil society forum)
to be able to work on such a document.  In this sense this summit
has meant a serious drawback for civil society in relation to
previous UN conferences, where there have been regional and
global forums.  We should at least do some planning on how to
work on this during the Prepcom.

Adam's proposal for caucus work that's focused on direct input,
and an overall statement based on the human rights document
from Paris, is, I think a good approach that will help us to be more
focused on the crucial issues at this stage.  If there is agreement,
the drafting team could start work on that.

John's suggestion of guidelines for caucuses would be useful.  Is
someone willing to do a draft of that?

Bill will, I think, be compiling the comments and proposals received
to date on the latest version of our priorities document, so that we
can have that as input for our work.

We need to have the drafting group up and running by Monday.
I will be away till then but if others want to join please let us know,

Sally


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From alalegre at fma.ph  Thu Aug 28 04:42:06 2003
From: alalegre at fma.ph (Alan G. Alegre)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:43 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: Patent battle to culminate in Brussels
References: <OF4C729ADC.C9BEC82C-ON80256D8F.00448213-80256D8F.00448F08@amnesty.org>
Message-ID: <006001c36d16$5a209a20$9d00a8c0@mshome.net>

FYI from Amnesty International. (apologies for cross posting)

  http://news.com.com/2100-1012-5068007.html 

  Patent battle to culminate in Brussels 


  By Matthew Broersma 
  Special to CNET News.com 
  August 26, 2003, 8:25 AM PT 


  More than 600 Web sites plan to take part in an online protest against a proposed European law on software patents that's timed to coincide with a real-life protest in Brussels, Belgium, on Wednesday. 

  Those rallying against the proposal, including some of Europe's most prominent scientists and software businesses, believe its current draft would open the door to the patenting of software and business processes, effectively shutting out software competition from small and medium-size developers. 

  The Foundation for a Free Information Infrastructure (FFII), which is organizing the online protest, is urging Web sites to temporarily replace their front pages with a note of protest. Some sites are also redirecting people to a petition and a call for action against the proposed directive that regards patents of computer-implemented inventions, which will be submitted to the European Parliament for approval on Sept. 1. 

  The call for action has already amassed more than 7,000 names since earlier this year, including several members of European Parliament and developers such as Opera Software, while the more general petition has accumulated more than 170,000 names. 

  "Leaders of the scientific communities and software business world took the directive proposal apart and condemned it in every respect. Yet in June, the European Parliament's Legal Affairs Commission endorsed this proposal with further amendments that make it even worse," Benjamin Henrion, one of the protest organizers, said in a statement. "More and more people are now seeing this very clearly." 

  The FFII and software-oriented groups such as EuroLinux are also organizing a rally that's planned for Wednesday, near the European Parliament in Brussels. The participants will be carrying banners with slogans such as "Software patents kill efficient software development" and the more pithy "Innovation, not litigation." 

  They are expected to be joined by a group of interested mimes, which also participated in a May demonstration that attracted 200 participants. The protest will be followed by briefings in the parliament building. 

  A June vote on the controversial proposal was postponed amid criticism by members of European Parliament that the legislation would institute a U.S.-style patent regime that would be detrimental to European small businesses and open-source software developers. 

  The proposed software-patenting legislation is the result of a European Commission effort to clarify patenting rules as they apply to "computer-implemented inventions," a term that can be taken to include software. The patent offices of various European Union member states currently have different criteria for accepting the validity of software-related patents, a situation that the commission's proposal aims to remedy. 

  However, opponents of the suggested legislation charge that the ambiguity of the current draft would effectively allow most software to be patented, a situation which currently exists in the United States and which critics have compared to allowing a monopoly on the ideas in novels. 

  Writing in The Guardian in June, Arlene McCarthy, the British Labor member of European Parliament who is guiding the software patents proposal through that body, asserted that the legislation would "provide legal certainty for European software inventors" and protect the investments of small European software companies. 

  "It is time some of the 'computer rights campaigners' got real," she wrote. "Patents for software inventions will not go away. It is infinitely better for the EU to harmonize laws across the EU with a view to limiting patentability, than to continue with the mess of national courts and European Patent Office systems, and the drift towards U.S. patent models." 

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From karenb at gn.apc.org  Thu Aug 28 07:04:16 2003
From: karenb at gn.apc.org (karen banks)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:43 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] RE: [WSIS-CT] Next steps for Content and
  Themes
In-Reply-To: <AFENLBFHPIGCAPCJDMCJIEKECHAA.jgagain@unadr.org>
References: <200308280118.h7S1Ief21244@mweb.alainet.org>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030828070353.030ed120@pop.gn.apc.org>

hi

john - could you send me you post on guidelines.. i don't seem to have it

karen

At 08:58 PM 8/27/2003 -0500, John R. Gagain Jr. wrote:
>Dear Sally,
>
>Thank you for the email and your response.  You ask below if anyone would
>like to volunteer to draft the guidelines for the caucuses.  I would like to
>volunteer to assume this role.  Please put me down.  I would be happy to
>work on it with someone else.
>
>Also, I did not receive Susanna's proposal.  Could someone send that to me.
>I did receive some emails from Adam, but I dont remember reading anything
>about "caucus work that's focused on direct input", which is an excellent
>idea and similar to what I proposed.  Adam, could you send / re-send me what
>Sally mentions you stated?
>
>John



From mciver at albany.edu  Fri Aug 29 04:32:56 2003
From: mciver at albany.edu (Bill McIver)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:43 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Link for Petition -- European Software Patentability rules -- Sept
 1 vote
Message-ID: <3F4EC968.2050407@albany.edu>

-- apologies for cross posts --

Information about this was posted earlier
to some of these lists.
Here is a direct link to the petition.

Please consider signing the petition.


* From Apache.org *

On September 1st the European Commission is going to vote a revised 
version of the European Patentability rules. The proposed revision 
contains a set of serious challenges to Open Source development since 
regulation regarding software patents will be broadly extended and might 
forbid independent development of innovative (Open Source and not) 
software-based solutions.

The European Open Source community is very concerned about the upcoming 
new regulation and has organized a demo protest for August 27, asking 
Open Source supporting sites to change their home pages to let everyone 
know what is going on at the European Parliament. The Apache Software 
Foundation has decided to support this initiative, and this is why you 
are seeing this page.

For further information please see http://swpat.ffii.org and 
http://petition.eurolinux.org.



WJM

-- 

Bill McIver
Assistant Professor
School of Information Science and Policy
University at Albany, State University of New York
Albany, New York 12222
USA

e-mail: mciver@albany.edu
URL: http://www.albany.edu/~mciver



From jlfullsack at wanadoo.fr  Fri Aug 29 08:02:28 2003
From: jlfullsack at wanadoo.fr (Fullsack Jean-Louis)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:43 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Sept 1 vote postponed
References: <3F4EC968.2050407@albany.edu>
Message-ID: <001d01c36dfb$83d689c0$0a00000a@default>

Hi Bill

Just to tell you that the debate at the European parliament scheduled on
September 1st at Strasbourg, has been postponed to september 22nd ... at
Brussels.
I don't know if this decision is due to my presence as a regular attendee at
EP debates at Strasbourg ...

Greetings
Jean-Louis Fullsack
Strasbourg-France

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill McIver" <mciver@albany.edu>
To: "WSIS CS Plenary" <plenary@wsis-cs.org>; <ct@wsis-cs.org>; "INFOSOC
CPSR" <infosoc@lists.cpsr.org>; "Pedro Mendizabal Simonetti"
<ppmendizabal@mail.terra.com.pe>; <CAST-GEN@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU>;
"wsis-prep1" <wsis-prep1@lists.cpsr.org>; <softwarelibre@fopecal.org>;
"iaaec" <iaaec@bucrf15.bu.edu>
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 5:32 AM
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Link for Petition -- European Software
Patentability rules -- Sept 1 vote


>
> -- apologies for cross posts --
>
> Information about this was posted earlier
> to some of these lists.
> Here is a direct link to the petition.
>
> Please consider signing the petition.
>
>
> * From Apache.org *
>
> On September 1st the European Commission is going to vote a revised
> version of the European Patentability rules. The proposed revision
> contains a set of serious challenges to Open Source development since
> regulation regarding software patents will be broadly extended and might
> forbid independent development of innovative (Open Source and not)
> software-based solutions.
>
> The European Open Source community is very concerned about the upcoming
> new regulation and has organized a demo protest for August 27, asking
> Open Source supporting sites to change their home pages to let everyone
> know what is going on at the European Parliament. The Apache Software
> Foundation has decided to support this initiative, and this is why you
> are seeing this page.
>
> For further information please see http://swpat.ffii.org and
> http://petition.eurolinux.org.
>
>
>
> WJM
>
> --
>
> Bill McIver
> Assistant Professor
> School of Information Science and Policy
> University at Albany, State University of New York
> Albany, New York 12222
> USA
>
> e-mail: mciver@albany.edu
> URL: http://www.albany.edu/~mciver
>
>
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From dbronson at ichrdd.ca  Fri Aug 29 20:26:04 2003
From: dbronson at ichrdd.ca (dbronson@ichrdd.ca)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:43 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] publications on human rights and WSIS to be released Sept 19
Message-ID: <OF7E4B080B.966EEB04-ON85256D91.006AA5F6-85256D91.006AC219@ichrdd.ca>

                                                                                          
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
 News Release                                                                             
                                                                                          
 HUMAN RIGHTS MUST BE AT THE HEART OF THE INFORMATION SOCIETY                             
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
 MONTREAL, August 28, 2003 - As governments, business and civil society organizations     
 prepare for the World Summit on the Information Society, scheduled to take place         
 December 10-12, 2003, in Geneva, Rights & Democracy, along with other members of the     
 Summit's Human Rights Caucus, is calling on world leaders to place human rights at the   
 centre of their deliberations.                                                           
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
 As a contribution to this conference, Rights & Democracy is publishing the essay Pole    
 Star: Human Rights in the Information Society by award-winning author Deborah Hurley.    
 The essay reviews specific challenges and opportunities for human rights posed by the    
 information society - privacy, security, freedom of expression, freedom of movement and  
 association, as well as access to technology and information, intellectual property      
 rights and the right to education.                                                       
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
 "If the Summit fails to reaffirm the centrality of human rights in its deliberations,"   
 said Jean-Louis Roy, President of Rights & Democracy, "we will have missed an important  
 opportunity to put information and communication technologies at the service of greater  
 global equality, democracy and development. We hope that this essay will help convince   
 governments that human rights are the basic platform upon which the information society  
 should be built. "                                                                       
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
 Rights & Democracy will join the Washington-based Electronic Privacy Information Centre  
 (EPIC) and London-based Privacy International to launch three publications on            
 information and human rights in Geneva on Friday, September 19, during the last          
 preparatory meeting for the UN Summit. Deborah Hurley and Jean-Louis Roy will be in      
 Geneva for the launch.                                                                   
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
 Review copies of Pole Star : Human Rights in the Information Society will be available   
 on September 15. The author and the President of Rights & Democracy will also be         
 available for interviews at that time. Click here for a summary of the essay.            
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
 For further information:                                                                 
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
 Lucie L?veill? or Steve Smith at (514) 283-6073                                          
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
 Deborah Hurley, recipient of the 2002 Namur Award, served as Director of Harvard         
 University's Information Infrastructure Project, and an official of the Organization for 
 Economic Cooperation and Development. At the OECD, she was responsible for writing the   
 seminal report on information security, drafting, negotiation and adoption of the 1992   
 OECD Guidelines for the Security of Information Systems, and initiating activities on    
 cryptography policy. She chaired the ITU Workshops on Creating Trust in Critical Network 
 Infrastructures and on Regulatory Implications of Broadband, and the Computers, Freedom  
 and Privacy Conference. Hurley serves on several boards and committees, including for    
 the U.S. State Department, Electronic Privacy Information Center, and American           
 Association for the Advancement of Science.                                              
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
 Rights & Democracy (International Centre for Human Rights and Democratic Development) is 
 a Canadian institution with an international mandate. It is an independent organization, 
 which promotes, advocates and defends the democratic and human rights set out in the     
 International Bill of Human Rights. In cooperation with civil society and governments in 
 Canada and abroad, Rights & Democracy initiates and supports programmes to strengthen    
 laws and democratic institutions, principally in developing countries.                   
                                                                                          
                                                                                          










                                                                                          
 Communiqu?                                                                               
 Les droits humains doivent ?tre au coeur de la soci?t? de l'information                  
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
 MONTR?AL - le 28 ao?t 2003 - Pendant que les gouvernements, les entreprises et les       
 organisations de la soci?t? civile se pr?parent au Sommet mondial sur la soci?t? de      
 l'information, pr?vu pour les 10-12 d?cembre 2003 ? Gen?ve, Droits et D?mocratie, en     
 collaboration avec des membres du Caucus droits humains du Sommet, demande aux chefs     
 d'?tats de s'engager ? mettre les droits humains au centre de leurs d?lib?rations.       
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
 En appui ? cette conf?rence, Droits et D?mocratie publiera un essai de la laur?ate       
 Deborah Hurley?: L'?toile polaire?: les droits humains dans la soci?t? de l'information. 
 Cet essai examine les d?fis et les opportunit?s sp?cifiquement li?s aux droits humains   
 que doit relever la soci?t? de l'information - vie priv?e, s?curit?, libert?             
 d'expression, de mouvement et d'association, ainsi que l'acc?s ? la technologie et ?     
 l'information, les droits ? la propri?t? intellectuelle et le droit ? l'?ducation.       
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
 ??Si le Sommet ne r?ussit pas ? r?affirmer la place centrale que doivent occuper les     
 droits humains dans ses d?lib?rations?? a dit Jean-Louis Roy, pr?sident de Droits et     
 D?mocratie, ??nous aurons manqu? une occasion importante de mettre les technologies de   
 l'information et des communications au service d'une plus grande ?galit?, de la          
 d?mocratie et du d?veloppement au niveau plan?taire. Nous esp?rons que cette publication 
 aidera ? convaincre les gouvernements que les droits humains sont la plateforme          
 fondamentale sur laquelle la soci?t? de l'information devrait ?tre b?tie.??              
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
 Droits et D?mocratie se joint au Electronic Privacy Information Centre (EPIC) de         
 Washington ainsi qu'au Privacy International de Londres pour lancer trois publications   
 sur l'information et les droits humains, lancement qui aura lieu ? Gen?ve le vendredi,   
 19 septembre, pendant la derni?re r?union de pr?paration avant le Sommet de l'ONU.       
 Deborah Hurley et Jean-Louis Roy seront pr?sents au lancement.                           
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
 Des copies de pr?lancement de L'?toile polaire?: les droits humains dans la soci?t? de   
 l'information seront disponibles ? partir du 15 septembre. L'auteur et le pr?sident de   
 Droits et D?mocratie seront ?galement disponibles pour des entrevues ? partir de cette   
 date. Un r?sum? de la publication est disponible maintenant. Cliquez ici pour y avoir    
 acc?s                                                                                    
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
 Renseignements : Lucie L?veill? ou Steve Smith au (514) 283-6073.                        
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
 R?cipiendaire du prix Namur en 2002, Deborah Hurley a dirig? le Harvard Information      
 Infrastructure Project de l'Universit? Harvard et a ?t? repr?sentante officielle de      
 l'Organisation de coop?ration et de d?veloppement ?conomiques (OCDE). Dans le cadre de   
 ses fonctions ? l'OCDE, elle a ?t? responsable de la r?daction d'un rapport sur la       
 s?curit? de l'information ainsi que de l'?laboration, de la discussion et de l'adoption  
 des Principes directeurs de l'OCDE sur la s?curit? des syst?mes d'information. C'est     
 aussi ? elle qu'on doit les premi?res activit?s de l'Organisation sur les politiques en  
 mati?re de cryptographie. Elle a assur? la pr?sidence des ateliers de l'Union            
 internationale des t?l?communications (UIT) sur l'instauration d'un sentiment de         
 confiance face aux infrastructures n?vralgiques des r?seaux et sur les implications de   
 l'acc?s ? large bande sur la r?glementation. Elle a aussi pr?sid? la Conf?rence sur      
 l'informatique, les libert?s et la vie priv?e. Madame Hurley a ?t? membre de plusieurs   
 conseils d'administration et de comit?s, notamment pour le D?partement d'?tat am?ricain, 
 l'Electronic Privacy Information Center et l'Association am?ricaine pour l'avancement de 
 la science.                                                                              
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
                                                                                          
 Droits et D?mocratie est une organisation ind?pendante canadienne investie d'un mandat   
 international. Elle fait la promotion et la d?fense des droits de la personne et du      
 d?veloppement d?mocratique tels que d?finis dans la Charte internationale des droits de  
 l'homme. En coop?ration avec la soci?t? civile et des gouvernements, au Canada et ?      
 l'?tranger, Droits et D?mocratie amorce et soutient des programmes qui visent ?          
 consolider les lois et les institutions d?mocratiques, principalement dans les pays en   
 voie de d?veloppement.                                                                   
                                                                                          







Diana Bronson
Coordinator/Coordonnatrice
Globalization and Human Rights Programme
Programme mondialisation et droits humains
Rights and Democracy/Droits et D?mocratie
1001, boul. de Maisonneuve est, Bureau 1100
Montr?al, Qu?bec
H2L 4P9
tel:  514 283 6073
fax:  514 283 3792
www.ichrdd.ca
dbronson@ichrdd.ca


From lachapelle at openwsis.org  Fri Aug 29 22:55:51 2003
From: lachapelle at openwsis.org (Bertrand de LA CHAPELLE)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:43 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Next steps for Content and  Themes : caucus guidelines
Message-ID: <200308292155.APT43411@ms7.verisignmail.com>

Hi,

I volunteer to participate in the drafting of guidelines.

It seems the method suggested by Wolfgang  (section by 
section comments during PrepCom3 by civil society and 
other non-governmental stakeholders ) and proposed 
during the joint meeting of the two bureaus in Paris has 
been accepted at the governmental Bureau last reunion 
last week. 

In that context, those guidelines should help us structure 
our interaction with governmental delegations during 
PrepCom3 itself.

But it can also help civil society participate fully in  
discussions on the key contentious issues that could 
take place in smaller working groups between Prepcom3 
and the December summit itself . 

Best to you all

Bertrand

_______________

Bertrand de LA CHAPELLE
lachapelle@openwsis.org
Tel : 33 (0)6 11 88 33 32


---- Original message ----
>Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 07:04:16 +0100
>From: karen banks <karenb@gn.apc.org>  
>Subject: Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] RE: [WSIS-CT] Next 
steps for Content and Themes  
>To: plenary@wsis-cs.org, <ct-admin@wsis-cs.org>
>
>hi
>
>john - could you send me you post on guidelines.. i don't 
seem to have it
>
>karen
>
>At 08:58 PM 8/27/2003 -0500, John R. Gagain Jr. wrote:
>>Dear Sally,
>>
>>Thank you for the email and your response.  You ask 
below if anyone would
>>like to volunteer to draft the guidelines for the 
caucuses.  I would like to
>>volunteer to assume this role.  Please put me down.  I 
would be happy to
>>work on it with someone else.
>>
>>Also, I did not receive Susanna's proposal.  Could 
someone send that to me.
>>I did receive some emails from Adam, but I dont 
remember reading anything
>>about "caucus work that's focused on direct input", 
which is an excellent
>>idea and similar to what I proposed.  Adam, could you 
send / re-send me what
>>Sally mentions you stated?
>>
>>John
>
>
>___________________________________________
____
>Plenary mailing list
>Plenary@wsis-cs.org
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Bertrand de LA CHAPELLE
OpenWSIS Initiative
lachapelle@openwsis.org
tel : 33 (0)6 11 88 33 32


About OpenWSIS 
OpenWSIS Initiative is piloting an open consultation and 
cooperation process for all categories of stakeholders to 
jointly identify and formalize Issues of Common Concern 
or Interest (ICCIs), to facilitate implementation of the 
WSIS Action Plan between  Geneva and Tunis.

A propos de l'OpenWSIS
OpenWSIS est un processus pilote de 
consultation et de coop?ration visant ? faciliter l'identification et la formalisation par toutes les parties prenantes concern?es 
des sujets de pr?occupation ou d'int?r?t communs 
(SPICs)qui faciliteront la mise en oeuvre du plan d'action 
du SMSI pendant la p?riode de Gen?ve ? Tunis.

From amalidesilva at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 31 07:04:45 2003
From: amalidesilva at yahoo.com (Amali De Silva)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:17:43 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Building bridges and advocacy re: CCBI / CCI (Private Sector )
Message-ID: <20030831060445.15394.qmail@web21302.mail.yahoo.com>

Should WSIS-CS be commenting on the CCBI / ICC documents as well ? I was wondering if we should highlight  some of the areas where civil society  and the business sector could  build partnerships ? We may also want to inform CCBI / ICC as to how they might assist civil society in a very concrete manner. The documents can be found at:
http://www.iccwbo.org/home/e_business/wsis.asp
 
Thank you for considering this,
 
Amali De Silva-Mitchell, Vice President, Vancouver Community Network, Canada.



Amali De Silva-Mitchell

Tel: 604-736-9012 & Email: amalidesilva@yahoo.com

 

 

 



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