From ecarll at optonline.net  Thu Jul  1 00:48:31 2004
From: ecarll at optonline.net (Elizabeth Carll, PhD)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:51 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Rik's pictures from WSIS Prepcom I
In-Reply-To: <DD5EB1FB-C955-11D8-A0A3-000A9575083C@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <JAEAIHOFJNJNGOMHHMDAIENMHHAA.ecarll@optonline.net>

Hi Rik,

Thanks for the photos.  Your photos and Andy Carvin's videos/photos makes it
seem like we are virtual flies on the wall.  If anyone else has photos or
videos, please be sure to post them.

Thank you all for your time and effort at the WSIS Prepcom.

Best regards,

Elizabeth

Dr. Elizabeth Carll
Focal Point
International Society for Traumatic Stress Studies;
Chair Media/ICT Working Group,
NGO Committee on Mental Health, New York
Tel: 1-631-754-2424
Fax: 1-631-754-5032
ecarll@optonline.net
-----Original Message-----
From: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org [mailto:plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org]On Behalf
Of Rik Panganiban
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 6:53 PM
To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Rik's pictures from WSIS Prepcom I


Dear Friends / Chers Amis,

My pictures from Prepcom I can be viewed at
http://www.ngocongo.org/images/WSISprepcomI/prepcomI.html . Enjoy!

Mes photos de la Prepcom I peuvent ?tre voir ?
http://www.ngocongo.org/images/WSISprepcomI/prepcomI.html .

Rik Panganiban

===============================================
RIK PANGANIBAN Communications Coordinator

Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship
with the United Nations (CONGO)
web: http://www.ngocongo.org
email: rik.panganiban@ngocongo.org
mobile: (+1) 917-710-5524



From ecarll at optonline.net  Thu Jul  1 00:55:41 2004
From: ecarll at optonline.net (Elizabeth Carll, PhD)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:51 2007
Subject: FW: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Thank you to all at WSIS Prepcom I
Message-ID: <JAEAIHOFJNJNGOMHHMDACENNHHAA.ecarll@optonline.net>

PS.  It goes without saying that much appreciation is also due to those who
worked on the extensive summaries and reports.  But better when said.

Elizabeth Carll

-----Original Message-----
From: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org [mailto:plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org]On
Behalf Of Elizabeth Carll, PhD
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 7:49 PM
To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
Subject: RE: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Rik's pictures from WSIS Prepcom I


Hi Rik,

Thanks for the photos.  Your photos and Andy Carvin's videos/photos makes it
seem like we are virtual flies on the wall.  If anyone else has photos or
videos, please be sure to post them.

Thank you all for your time and effort at the WSIS Prepcom.

Best regards,

Elizabeth

Dr. Elizabeth Carll
Focal Point
International Society for Traumatic Stress Studies;
Chair Media/ICT Working Group,
NGO Committee on Mental Health, New York
Tel: 1-631-754-2424
Fax: 1-631-754-5032
ecarll@optonline.net
-----Original Message-----
From: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org [mailto:plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org]On Behalf
Of Rik Panganiban
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 6:53 PM
To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Rik's pictures from WSIS Prepcom I


Dear Friends / Chers Amis,

My pictures from Prepcom I can be viewed at
http://www.ngocongo.org/images/WSISprepcomI/prepcomI.html . Enjoy!

Mes photos de la Prepcom I peuvent ?tre voir ?
http://www.ngocongo.org/images/WSISprepcomI/prepcomI.html .

Rik Panganiban

===============================================
RIK PANGANIBAN Communications Coordinator

Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship
with the United Nations (CONGO)
web: http://www.ngocongo.org
email: rik.panganiban@ngocongo.org
mobile: (+1) 917-710-5524


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From westasiaregion at hotmail.com  Thu Jul  1 08:53:18 2004
From: westasiaregion at hotmail.com (Hossein Amir)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:51 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Rik's pictures from WSIS Prepcom I
Message-ID: <Sea1-F1155FrF1SYAWS0003d562@hotmail.com>


All

i try to downlaod videos, but they were actually sounds, not movie. could 
someone please resned those links or check the files, if it is correct or 
not.

I really need to have those movies, i also have some picutres which i will 
send it to you, the hot picutres!

thanks

amir


>From: "Elizabeth Carll, PhD" <ecarll@optonline.net>
>Reply-To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
>To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
>Subject: RE: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Rik's pictures from WSIS Prepcom I
>Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:48:31 -0400
>
>Hi Rik,
>
>Thanks for the photos.  Your photos and Andy Carvin's videos/photos makes 
>it
>seem like we are virtual flies on the wall.  If anyone else has photos or
>videos, please be sure to post them.
>
>Thank you all for your time and effort at the WSIS Prepcom.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Elizabeth
>
>Dr. Elizabeth Carll
>Focal Point
>International Society for Traumatic Stress Studies;
>Chair Media/ICT Working Group,
>NGO Committee on Mental Health, New York
>Tel: 1-631-754-2424
>Fax: 1-631-754-5032
>ecarll@optonline.net
>-----Original Message-----
>From: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org [mailto:plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org]On Behalf
>Of Rik Panganiban
>Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 6:53 PM
>To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
>Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Rik's pictures from WSIS Prepcom I
>
>
>Dear Friends / Chers Amis,
>
>My pictures from Prepcom I can be viewed at
>http://www.ngocongo.org/images/WSISprepcomI/prepcomI.html . Enjoy!
>
>Mes photos de la Prepcom I peuvent être voir à
>http://www.ngocongo.org/images/WSISprepcomI/prepcomI.html .
>
>Rik Panganiban
>
>===============================================
>RIK PANGANIBAN Communications Coordinator
>
>Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship
>with the United Nations (CONGO)
>web: http://www.ngocongo.org
>email: rik.panganiban@ngocongo.org
>mobile: (+1) 917-710-5524
>
>
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From karenb at gn.apc.org  Thu Jul  1 10:47:21 2004
From: karenb at gn.apc.org (karen banks)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:51 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] TRANSLATION: Status of CS documents in
  Arabic all available
In-Reply-To: <000001c45ee7$a03c9e00$831c723e@Marlyn>
References: <6.1.1.1.0.20040629181534.034a0480@pop.gn.apc.org>
 <000001c45ee7$a03c9e00$831c723e@Marlyn>
Message-ID: <6.1.1.1.0.20040701104600.039acaf0@pop.gn.apc.org>

Dear maryln,

thank you very much for this. The only statements missing are the statement 
on internet governance (which i will forward you separately) and the second 
HR statement as read by Mme. N'diaye - which we don't have a copy of.

I will post a summary of the statements and status of translation in the 
next message.

karen



From ACarvin at edc.org  Thu Jul  1 14:03:03 2004
From: ACarvin at edc.org (Andy Carvin)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:51 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Rik's pictures from WSIS Prepcom I
Message-ID: <OF2F5347C6.70C041A1-ON85256EC4.0047B07E-85256EC4.0047B0E2@edc.org>




 Hi Amir,

Here are the links to the four videos I took during the contentious CS
plenary. Please let me know if you have any problems getting them to work.

I'm also under the impression that someone had offered to transcribe the
videos and translate them from the original French, but I'm not sure if
someone is indeed doing this.

http://www.edwebproject.org/andy/blog/video/plenary.hr1.avi

http://www.edwebproject.org/andy/blog/video/plenary.hr2.avi

http://www.edwebproject.org/andy/blog/video/plenary.hr3.avi

http://www.edwebproject.org/andy/blog/video/plenary.hr4.avi

-------------------------------------------------
Andy Carvin
Program Director
EDC Center for Media & Community
acarvin @ edc . org
http://www.digitaldividenetwork.org
-------------------------------------------------













      To:   plenary@wsis-cs.org
      cc:
      bcc:
      Subject:    RE: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Rik's pictures from WSIS Prepcom I
"Hossein Amir" <westasiaregion@hotmail.com>
Sent by: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org
07/01/2004 07:53 AM GMT
Please respond to plenary           <font size=-1></font>























All

i try to downlaod videos, but they were actually sounds, not movie. could
someone please resned those links or check the files, if it is correct or
not.

I really need to have those movies, i also have some picutres which i will
send it to you, the hot picutres!

thanks

amir


>From: "Elizabeth Carll, PhD" <ecarll@optonline.net>
>Reply-To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
>To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
>Subject: RE: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Rik's pictures from WSIS Prepcom I
>Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:48:31 -0400
>
>Hi Rik,
>
>Thanks for the photos.  Your photos and Andy Carvin's videos/photos makes
>it
>seem like we are virtual flies on the wall.  If anyone else has photos or
>videos, please be sure to post them.
>
>Thank you all for your time and effort at the WSIS Prepcom.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Elizabeth
>
>Dr. Elizabeth Carll
>Focal Point
>International Society for Traumatic Stress Studies;
>Chair Media/ICT Working Group,
>NGO Committee on Mental Health, New York
>Tel: 1-631-754-2424
>Fax: 1-631-754-5032
>ecarll@optonline.net
>-----Original Message-----
>From: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org [mailto:plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org]On
Behalf
>Of Rik Panganiban
>Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 6:53 PM
>To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
>Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Rik's pictures from WSIS Prepcom I
>
>
>Dear Friends / Chers Amis,
>
>My pictures from Prepcom I can be viewed at
>http://www.ngocongo.org/images/WSISprepcomI/prepcomI.html . Enjoy!
>
>Mes photos de la Prepcom I peuvent ?tre voir ?
>http://www.ngocongo.org/images/WSISprepcomI/prepcomI.html .
>
>Rik Panganiban
>
>===============================================
>RIK PANGANIBAN Communications Coordinator
>
>Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship
>with the United Nations (CONGO)
>web: http://www.ngocongo.org
>email: rik.panganiban@ngocongo.org
>mobile: (+1) 917-710-5524
>
>
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From ljeffrey at ecommons.net  Thu Jul  1 15:40:20 2004
From: ljeffrey at ecommons.net (Liss Jeffrey)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:51 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Transciption 
In-Reply-To: <OF2F5347C6.70C041A1-ON85256EC4.0047B07E-85256EC4.0047B0E2@
 edc.org>
References: <OF2F5347C6.70C041A1-ON85256EC4.0047B07E-85256EC4.0047B0E2@edc.org>
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20040701103640.031b2e50@mail.bydesign-elab.net>


It is always hard to determine the commentary after a tense and non 
dialogical moment, when when you are not part of the action.
Here is what our transcriber posted on the videos:

http://wsis.ecommons.ca/node/view/447?l=en

Il est plut?t difficile de comprendre ce qui se dit dans ces vid?os. Il n'y
a pas de v?ritable dialogue. Le seul moment un peu compr?hensible est dans
le troisi?me vid?o alors que la dame s'exclame en disant: "Vous me
connaissez. Je n'ai pas pris la parole (3 fois). Je voulais que ?a se
d?roule calmement."

English:
It seems those videos don't say much. There is no dialogue going on and
it is very hard to understand. The only clear moment is on the third video,
as the lady speaking is saying: "You know me. I didn't have a chance to 
speak (3 times), I wanted everything
to be done calmly..."

Liss Jeffrey, PhD
Director, eCommons/agora project

At 09:03 AM 01/07/2004, Andy Carvin wrote:

>  Hi Amir,
>
>Here are the links to the four videos I took during the contentious CS
>plenary. Please let me know if you have any problems getting them to work.
>
>I'm also under the impression that someone had offered to transcribe the
>videos and translate them from the original French, but I'm not sure if
>someone is indeed doing this.
>
>http://www.edwebproject.org/andy/blog/video/plenary.hr1.avi
>
>http://www.edwebproject.org/andy/blog/video/plenary.hr2.avi
>
>http://www.edwebproject.org/andy/blog/video/plenary.hr3.avi
>
>http://www.edwebproject.org/andy/blog/video/plenary.hr4.avi
>
>-------------------------------------------------
>Andy Carvin
>Program Director
>EDC Center for Media & Community
>acarvin @ edc . org
>http://www.digitaldividenetwork.org
>-------------------------------------------------


From info at virtualactivism.net  Thu Jul  1 16:32:47 2004
From: info at virtualactivism.net (info@virtualactivism.net)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:51 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Statement on Internet Governance in Arabic
In-Reply-To: <p06110427bd08e9d92f9a@[192.168.1.251]>
Message-ID: <003301c45f80$abb84790$8b1c723e@Marlyn>



Marlyn Tadros, Ph.D
Executive Director
Virtual Activism
http://www.virtualactivism.org
:-)
Marlyn Tadros
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From karenb at gn.apc.org  Thu Jul  1 16:41:36 2004
From: karenb at gn.apc.org (karen banks)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:51 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Statement on Internet Governance in
  Arabic
In-Reply-To: <003301c45f80$abb84790$8b1c723e@Marlyn>
References: <p06110427bd08e9d92f9a@[192.168.1.251]>
 <003301c45f80$abb84790$8b1c723e@Marlyn>
Message-ID: <6.1.1.1.0.20040701163845.0398c4b8@pop.gn.apc.org>

many thanks maryln,

we now have 5 of the 6 statements in arabic and english

we have 2 of the 6 statements in french (HR_belhassen/internet governance) 
and 1 in spanish (HR_belhassen)

I'll now try to get support for the remaining spanish and french translation

karen



From mhms2 at enda.sn  Thu Jul  1 11:07:38 2004
From: mhms2 at enda.sn (Marie-Helene)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:51 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Maintenant accessible :
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20040701100125.00b86680@enda.sn>

Bonjour
Le site famafrique, qui n'?tait pas accessible tous ces derniers jours, est 
de nouveau fonctionnel. Vous pouvez t?l?charger votre copie ? 
:  http://www.famafrique.org/regentic/e-citoyennes.pdf
===============
Vient de para?tre
"Citoyennes africaines de la soci?t? de l'information"
Une publication du R?seau Genre et TIC
S?rie ENDA Etudes et Recherches, N? 231, juin 2004, 84 pages, 876 Ko
T?l?chargez votre copie : http://www.famafrique.org/regentic/e-citoyennes.pdf

(enda, dakar, 23 juin 2004) - Le R?seau Genre et TIC, une initiative en 
partenariat ENDA - OSIRIS - ART, publie, ? l'occasion de la Premi?re 
Conf?rence Pr?paratoire du Sommet de Tunis sur la Soci?t? de l'Information 
(Tunis, 23-26 juin 2004) "Citoyennes africaines de la soci?t? de 
l'information, un manuel de premi?re urgence ? l'intention des 
d?cideur(e)s", plaidoyer ? l'intention des d?cideurs et acteurs publics, 
civils et priv?s, sur la prise en compte du genre dans les politiques 
d'information et de communication, pour une soci?t? africaine  de 
l'information juste, plurielle et inclusive.

Cet ouvrage collectif, pratique et illustr? s'inscrit dans le programme 
"Prendre en compte le genre dans les politiques de TIC", mis en ?uvre par 
le R?seau Genre et TIC avec l'appui de Open Society Initiative for West 
Africa (OSIWA, Dakar, S?n?gal), est ? utiliser pour n?gocier et construire 
l'?quit? d?s les premi?res heures de la soci?t? de l'information.

Pr?face par Mme Karima Bounemra Ben Soltane, Directrice de la Division des 
Services de l'Information pour le D?veloppement de la Commission Economique 
des Nations Unies pour l'Afrique ; Avant-propos par Association for 
Progressive Communication.

Publication papier : ENDA-Editions, B.P. 3370, Dakar, S?n?gal 
(editions@enda.sn)
Disponible en ligne (format pdf) 
:  http://www.famafrique.org/regentic/e-citoyennes.pdf

R?seau Genre et TIC :  http://www.famafrique.org/regentic/accueil.html

Informations : 	enda : T?l. : 823 45 42 ; messagerie : synfev@enda.sn
OSIRIS : T?l. : 822 81 05 ; messagerie : osiris@osiris.sn
ART : T?l. : 869 03 64 ; messagerie : art@art.sn
==========================================================


From dbenamrane at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  1 18:40:32 2004
From: dbenamrane at yahoo.com (djilali benamrane)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:51 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] le pb de la traduction des textes
In-Reply-To: <p0611040fbd07438a6e92@[192.168.1.251]>
Message-ID: <20040701174032.7481.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com>

Robert,
Sorry, i reply with a long delay....
Many thanks for your interest...
I do have a great ambition for the CS and would like
from it another view than UN, private sector or
Governmental positions... Making effort to translate
main documents in UN 5 official languages is a Minimum
we must accept if we want to make population for the
South involved.
Those among us who think because of they master
English that they have not the time or the resources
to translate are priviligees.
We must as CS find a solution to translation and act
for that. I cannot believe on informal volonteers.
Many wishes for success to your efforts and aims.
Firndly
Djilali
Juste une petite réponse à Robert pour le remercier de
l'effort qu'il a fait pour me répondre longuement....
J'indique que pour moi, la société civile joue sa
crédibilité en trouvant ou non des solutions durable à
la traduction des textes dans les 5 langues de l'ONU
et ce pour partager équitablement l'information c'est
de cela que dépendra la différence de la SC avec la
partie onusienne compromise, la partie multinationale
militante et conquérante et la partie gouvernementale
dominante... je ne crois pas en la solution
volontariat informel en fonction des disponibilité et
ou de la bonne humeur des un ou des autres... Pour le
moment nous vivons sour la dictature des englophones
acceptons le mais je fermons pas le syeux, les
oreilles et la guelle !
Amitiés
Djilali 
--- Robert Guerra <rguerra@cpsr.org> wrote:
> English translation of my earlier message....
> 
> >  To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
> >>  From: Robert Guerra <rguerra@cpsr.org>
> >>  Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Liste Bureau - y'a
> til des gens que peut
> >>  assister avec traduccion?
> 
> Subject : Bureau list - are there people who can
> help with translation]
> 
> >>
> >>  Djilali:
> >>
> >>  - la 1re chose que je voudrais dire, est
> d'excuser mon français ecrit
> 
> [first thing i want to say - i'd like to apologize
> for my written french]
> 
> 
> >>  - je  comprends la langue, mais ça fait
> longtemps que je ne ecrivez
> >>  pas en  français...
> >>
> 
> [ i understand the language, but it's been a long
> time since i write in french]
> 
> 
> 
> >>  En concernant ton message a karen Banks -
> 
> [concerning your message to ...]
> 
> >>
> >>  je regret que tu a pensez que comme admin. de la
> liste du bureau
> >>  j'avais  essayer de appliquez la censure. En
> plus, que regrette aussi
> >>  que tu pense  que je essayer de "monopolizer
> l'information"
> >>
> 
> i regret/am sad - to think that  you believe that I
> as list admin i 
> tried to apply censorship. I also regret that you
> think that i'm 
> trying to monopolize information.
> 
> 
> 
> >>  c'est n'est pas de la censure - pas de tout. Je
> suis un
> >>  españole/canadien  que si parle 3 langues. Je
> connais bien la
> >>  diversite culturelle,  la  plurielite y la 
> diversite linguistique.
> >>  Peut-etre c'est facil de  critiquez, mais c'est
> pas de tout vrai
> >>  c'est que tu disez.
> >>
> 
> [it's not censorship - not at all. I am a spanish
> and canadian who 
> speaks three languages. I understand and know well
> first hand what 
> cultural diversity, plurality and linguistic
> diversity means. Perhaps 
> it's easy (for you) to critise, but what you say
> isn't at all true.]
> 
> 
> 
> >>  avec plus de 250 messages pour approver et etre
> la seule persone que
> >>  administer la liste - j'avais essayer d'envoyer
> un message simple, a
> >>  tous  les persones que on envoyer un message a
> liste.
> 
> 
> [with more than 250 messages to approve and being
> the sole person who 
> (really) administers the list - i tried to send a
> simple message to 
> all those who tried (and weren't authorized) to send
> a message to the 
> list]
> 
> 
> >>  Je suis bien consciente de l'importance d'avoir
> les comunications de
> >>  la  societie civil en divers langues.
> Certainment  tu a vu mes
> >>  messages a la  liste de plenaire dans les mois
> passé y certainment la
> >>  semaine dernaire de  l'importance de faire
> toutes les choses
> >>  possibles por que les gens peut se  communiquez
> y comprende dans les
> >>  langues officielles des naciones unies 
> (español, frances, angles,
> >>  russe, chinoise)
> >>
> 
> [I am fully aware of the importance of civil society
> to communicate 
> in different languages. Certainly you've seen my
> messages to the 
> plenary over the last few months and last week (in
> particular) where 
> i mention the importance of doing all we can to be
> able for us to 
> communicate and understand each other in all the
> official UN 
> languages (spanish, french, english, russian,
> chinese)]
> 
> 
> 
> >>  J'avez fais des efforts pour demander
> d'assistance pour traduir les
> >>  pages  du bureau en Français et en español. Il
> y'a des gens que
> >>  s'interes, mais  personne que c'est mais
> travaller y de le faire.
> 
> 
> [I have made efforts to ask for help to translate
> the Bureau pages 
> into French and Spanish. There are people who have
> expressed an 
> interest to help, but no one has gotten down to work
> and get it done]
> 
> 
> >>  Peut-être toi, ou  des autres francophones
> n'avais pas vu mon
> >>  announce il  y'a des mois? Je ne sait pais.
> C'est facil de
> >>  critiquez...La seul chose  que je peut dire que
> de travailler y de
> >>  essayer de solutioner le problem  est plus
> dificil.
> 
> 
> [maybe you and the other francophones didn't see the
> message i sent 
> months ago? I don't know. It is easy to
> critize...the only thing i'll 
> say is that working together to solve the problem is
> much harder]
> 
> 
> 
> >>  Si toi même, ou des otres personnes, o peut-être
> des organizaciones
> >>  s'interese pour traduir les contenue y de
> assister le bureau pour se
> >>  communique avec de francophones - ça sera
> magnifique.
> >>
> 
> [if you, others, or perhaps even organizations are
> interested (and 
> able) to translate the contents and help the bureau
> be able to 
> communicate with francophones - than that would be
> great!]
> 
> 
> 
> >>  Alors - je relance le petite annonce - Ya'til
> des francophones que
> >>  peut  assister en mes en cours un services de
> traducion por le
> >>  bureau? Si tu  peut assister, svp envoyez moi un
> courier electronic
> >>  pour que on peut  commencez le travail.
> 
> 
> [Thus, i'll announce it again - Are there
> francophones out there who 
> can help put in place a translation service for the
> Bureau? If you 
> can help, please send me an email so that we can
> start the work 
> (which needs to be done).]
> 
> >>
> >>  Encore, je voudrais excuser mon français ecrit -
> mais j'avais pensez
> >>  que  se meut de faire un effort, pour donnez la
> señal que je suis
> >>  consiente de  la diversité culturelle.
> 
> 
> [Again, i want to apologize for my written french -
> I thought it was 
> best to make the effort, to give a sign that I am
> very 
=== message truncated ===


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From ACarvin at edc.org  Thu Jul  1 22:09:28 2004
From: ACarvin at edc.org (Andy Carvin)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:51 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Andy's Tunisia photo galleries: a work in progress
Message-ID: <OF3CC11862.FA093290-ON85256EC4.007438FE-85256EC4.00743967@edc.org>




en/fr/es

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to share some of the photo galleries I'm working from last
week in Tunisia. I still have to label each of the photos and create a
homepage for all of it, but the individual photo galleries can be viewed
right now. I also have a multimedia folder with assorted video clips and
Quicktime VR files. Below are the links to each gallery.

Je voudrais partager certaines des galeries de photo que je cr?e pour mon
voyage en Tunisie. Je dois toujours marquer chacune des photos et cr?er un
homepage pour tout, mais les diff?rentes galeries de photo peuvent ?tre
regard?es maintenant. J'ai ?galement une chemise de multim?dia avec les
agrafes et les dossiers visuels assortis de Quicktime VR. Au-dessous de
sont les liens ? chaque galerie.

Quisiera compartir algunas de las galer?as de la foto que estoy creando
para mi viaje a T?nez. Todav?a necesito etiquetar cada uno de las fotos y
crear un homepage para todo, pero las galer?as individuales de la foto se
pueden ahora ver. Tambi?n tengo una carpeta de los multimedia con los clips
y los archivos video clasificados de Quicktime VR. Debajo est?n los
acoplamientos a cada galer?a.
Old Hammamet
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/hammamet.html

Yasmine Hammamet
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/yasmine.html

Photos from around the Prepcom
(includes a couple of Rik's pictures he took of me)
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/prepcom1.html

Cafe Sidi Bou Hdid, Old Hammet
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/cafe.html

CS reps gathering at the SalsaTec Cafe
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/salsatec.html

Tunis
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/tunis.html

Carthage
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/carthage.html

Sidi Bou Said
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/sidi.html

The Bardo Museum
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/bardo.html

Tourbet el-Bey
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/tourbet.html

Multimedia folder: AVI videos and QTVR files
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/multimedia/

I'll try to finish the website in the next couple of weeks; I'll post a
message to the list when I do.

thanks,
ac
-------------------------------------------------
Andy Carvin
Program Director
EDC Center for Media & Community
acarvin @ edc . org
http://www.digitaldividenetwork.org
-------------------------------------------------


From lists at mraihi.com  Thu Jul  1 23:04:40 2004
From: lists at mraihi.com (MRAIHI Marouen)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:51 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Andy's Tunisia photo galleries: a work in progress
References: <OF3CC11862.FA093290-ON85256EC4.007438FE-85256EC4.00743967@edc.org>
Message-ID: <007f01c45fb7$6a18a370$1abe96d5@ic2>

Very nice pics Andy
Congratulation !

The next prepcom will be in February and in Geneva, I suppose that it will
be less warm than the one in Hammamet and in June .... ;-)

Marouen MRAIHI
http://profiles.takingitglobal.org/marouen

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Carvin" <ACarvin@edc.org>
To: <plenary@wsis-cs.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 10:09 PM
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Andy's Tunisia photo galleries: a work in
progress






en/fr/es

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to share some of the photo galleries I'm working from last
week in Tunisia. I still have to label each of the photos and create a
homepage for all of it, but the individual photo galleries can be viewed
right now. I also have a multimedia folder with assorted video clips and
Quicktime VR files. Below are the links to each gallery.

Je voudrais partager certaines des galeries de photo que je cr?e pour mon
voyage en Tunisie. Je dois toujours marquer chacune des photos et cr?er un
homepage pour tout, mais les diff?rentes galeries de photo peuvent ?tre
regard?es maintenant. J'ai ?galement une chemise de multim?dia avec les
agrafes et les dossiers visuels assortis de Quicktime VR. Au-dessous de
sont les liens ? chaque galerie.

Quisiera compartir algunas de las galer?as de la foto que estoy creando
para mi viaje a T?nez. Todav?a necesito etiquetar cada uno de las fotos y
crear un homepage para todo, pero las galer?as individuales de la foto se
pueden ahora ver. Tambi?n tengo una carpeta de los multimedia con los clips
y los archivos video clasificados de Quicktime VR. Debajo est?n los
acoplamientos a cada galer?a.
Old Hammamet
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/hammamet.html

Yasmine Hammamet
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/yasmine.html

Photos from around the Prepcom
(includes a couple of Rik's pictures he took of me)
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/prepcom1.html

Cafe Sidi Bou Hdid, Old Hammet
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/cafe.html

CS reps gathering at the SalsaTec Cafe
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/salsatec.html

Tunis
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/tunis.html

Carthage
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/carthage.html

Sidi Bou Said
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/sidi.html

The Bardo Museum
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/bardo.html

Tourbet el-Bey
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/tourbet.html

Multimedia folder: AVI videos and QTVR files
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/multimedia/

I'll try to finish the website in the next couple of weeks; I'll post a
message to the list when I do.

thanks,
ac
-------------------------------------------------
Andy Carvin
Program Director
EDC Center for Media & Community
acarvin @ edc . org
http://www.digitaldividenetwork.org
-------------------------------------------------

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From beatriz at maxmedia.com.ar  Fri Jul  2 16:28:44 2004
From: beatriz at maxmedia.com.ar (Beatriz Busaniche)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:51 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] [WSIS-CT] Spanish translation UPDATE
In-Reply-To: <p06110454bcfe755aff9a@[10.71.1.2]>
References: <p06110454bcfe755aff9a@[10.71.1.2]>
Message-ID: <1088782124.1944.53.camel@linux.local>

El mar, 22-06-2004 a las 20:50, Adam Peake escribi?:
> Spanish translation of the Internet governance update.
> 
> Many thanks to Ana Am for this translation.

Thank you all for the translation into spaniche.
gracias por la traducci?n al espa?ol.

Bus could we please! avoid .doc documents in this mailing list?
Pero podr?amos por favor evitar los documentos .doc en esta lista de
correos?

Here goes the spanish text in the body of the e-mail. no reason for
attachs with this content.

Aqu? va el texto en espa?ol en el cuerpo del mensaje, no hay raz?n para
poner adjuntos con este contenido.

saludos / regards

......................................

?ltimas noticias sobre el estado del grupo de trabajo sobre la
administraci?n de Internet, al menos lo que nosotros entendemos sobre
?l.


El se?or Markus Kummer, un diplom?tico suizo, ha sido designado para
dirigir el secretariado de la Secretar?a General del Grupo de Trabajo
sobre la Administraci?n de Internet (de aqu? en adelante ?GT?). La mayor
parte de la informaci?n sobre el grupo procede de ?l, pero no existe
ning?n documento oficial como tal; lo que sigue se ha extra?do de
diversos discursos y presentaciones.


Kummer dice que espera que el secretariado comience a funcionar hacia
finales de junio, y se seleccione al jefe del GT para el primer
prep-com. (junio 24-26). El jefe del GT ser? probablemente un
representante de un gobierno, preferiblemente del Sur.


Los indicios son que el GT tendr? entre 15-20 miembros. Kummer ha
demostrado su gran apoyo al requisito del documento de la Cumbre que
exige que el GT se forme a trav?s de un proceso abierto e incluyente. Es
una persona muy accesible, abierta y agradable, todo lo que sabemos de
?l hasta el momento se?ala que es una buena elecci?n para esta posici?n.


Kummer ha dicho en un par de ocasiones que espera que aquellos que
apuestan por alguien sean consultados sobre quien se incorporar? al GT,
no se nombrar? a la gente sin su apoyo. Espera que la elecci?n de
miembros del GT est? completa en octubre, y que desde ese momento
comiencen a trabajar realmente. Un esquema de lo que supone este proceso
puede consultarse en:
<http://www.too-much.tv/glocomish/2004/05/internet_govern.html> 


** La Sociedad Civil parece estar en la posici?n de sugerir nombres de
candidatos para formar parte del Grupo de Trabajo. En lugar de dar paso
al frenes? o a recomendaciones espec?ficas, nuestra sugerencia es que
primero estemos de acuerdo en las cualidades de la gente que nos
gustar?a que se incorporase al grupo de trabajo en representaci?n de la
Sociedad Civil. Para m?s tarde intentar proponer de 3 a 5 nombres.
Percataros de que, dado que no ha habido una asignaci?n de puestos, no
se nos ha prometido un n?mero espec?fico.


El GT deber?a incluir gente tanto de pa?ses en desarrollo como
desarrollados. Pensamos que es razonable anticipar que se esperar? de
los miembros del GT un conocimiento del ingl?s como lengua de trabajo,
no es que lo decidamos nosotros, pero deber?amos tenerlo en cuenta.


Algunas otras cosas que pensamos que sabemos:


Kummer ha indicado que las habilidades son m?s importantes que el que la
persona sea de ?alto nivel?. Considera el equilibrio de g?neros un
elemento importante.


Requerir? un compromiso significativo de tiempo y esfuerzo. Mucho
trabajo en poco tiempo.


Un amplio conocimiento de los asuntos pol?ticos del ICT ser? de gran
ayuda.


Pero a?n con todos estos comentarios, el se?or Kummer dice que ?l s?lo
est? en la posici?n de aconsejar, y que no ser? suya la decisi?n final.


Tambi?n enviamos esta nota a las juntas y grupos de trabajo de la
Sociedad Civil.


Trasfondo.


El grupo de trabajo se est? formando ahora, y su estructura y
metodolog?a de trabajo todav?a no han sido establecidas. Puede que
podamos influir sobre ?stas. Comentarios sobre la estructura o
modalidades ser?n bienvenidos.


La estructura y modalidades se discutir?n en el primer prep-com. Lo que
sabemos hasta ahora es que el GT introducir? propuestas en un sentido
amplio a trav?s de una estructura con diversos niveles. Esta estructura
consistir? en un peque?o n?cleo de miembros de alto-nivel del propio
grupo de trabajo, una red m?s amplia de aquellos que tienen propuestas
que aportar?n al grupo n?cleo mediante dos o tres consultas con final
abierto, y quiz?s reuniones organizadas regional o tem?ticamente y
audiencias con expertos. La Sociedad Civil necesita estudiar la manera
en que participar? de dicho proceso.


Kummer ha demostrado estar muy abierto a reunirse con los grupos. Si los
miembros del grupo de trabajo tienen la misma actitud, en ese caso
darles oportunidades para reunirse con los grupos de la Sociedad Civil,
para hablar en conferencias y talleres, ser?a una forma de difundir
nuestros puntos de vista.


Parece que el GT comenzar? por adoptar una visi?n amplia de lo que
implica la administraci?n de Internet. Los asuntos tratados con mayor
frecuencia son: spam; la seguridad de la red y de la informaci?n, y la
protecci?n de la confianza, privacidad y del consumidor; los precios de
Internet y la interconexi?n, y por supuesto asuntos asociados con ICANN
y el sistema de dominios. Tambi?n se han mencionado los derechos de
propiedad intelectual, las reglas internacionales para el comercio
electr?nico, los pagos de impuestos y la codificaci?n criptogr?fica.
Potencialmente una lista casi sin final.



Gracias.


Jeannette Hofmann <jeannette@wz-berlin.de>, Adam Peake
<ajp@glocom.ac.jp> coordinadores en la junta de administraci?n de
Internet




From rguerra at lists.privaterra.org  Fri Jul  2 16:44:36 2004
From: rguerra at lists.privaterra.org (Robert Guerra)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:51 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] [WSIS-CT] Spanish translation UPDATE
In-Reply-To: <1088782124.1944.53.camel@linux.local>
References: <p06110454bcfe755aff9a@[10.71.1.2]>
 <1088782124.1944.53.camel@linux.local>
Message-ID: <p06110412bd0b2f14dd09@[192.168.1.251]>

At 12:28 PM -0300 7/2/04, Beatriz Busaniche wrote:
>
>Bus could we please! avoid .doc documents in this mailing list?
>Pero podr?amos por favor evitar los documentos .doc en esta lista de
>correos?

I don't want to get into a discussion about the pro's and con's of 
one particular document format or another. So instead, let me come up 
with two suggested policies  for the list in regards to documents:

regards,

Robert


**** Suggested List policies ****


(1) To reduce bandwidth - Policy on how to share/send files ...

Wherever possible, documents should not be attached - but instead 
placed on a site where people can fetch them.

If there's no central repository where CS has a copy of it's 
documents - then we should have one...

I'm more than happy to offer space on the existing WSIS related wiki 
and file directory that i have to be used by anyone here. URL is  - 
http://cms.privaterra.org/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=7

(2) To recognize we all use different OS platforms - Policy on file 
formats .....

let's not enter into a debate as to which one is best, worse or 
anything of the kind..(personally, i'd rather have that debate take 
place elsewhere, as it's not the exclusive issue affecting us right 
now) instead, let's save and share our documents in as platform and 
application  independent format as possible.

Thus, if you can save documents in RTF, HTML  or PDF format - then, please do.

If i'm not mistaken, most - if not all - word processing programs 
have the option to save in RTF, HTML and/or PDF.

(personal note - i like PDF as it allows one to see documents written 
in non-european character sets much better, without the need of 
loading tons of extra fonts..)


As I may have referred to at the beginning - let's understand the 
fact that those of us on this list are using a variety of different 
platforms, operating systems and programs to communicate. Let's 
respect the individual choice we've all made and be as accommodating 
as possible.

Let's respect that choice and move on to what's technically required 
to make everyone happy. If RTF documents can help - then, let's 
suggest (where possible) people use it.



From echaparro at uolsinectis.com.ar  Fri Jul  2 14:33:41 2004
From: echaparro at uolsinectis.com.ar (Enrique A. Chaparro)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:51 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] [WSIS-CT] Spanish translation UPDATE
In-Reply-To: <p06110412bd0b2f14dd09@[192.168.1.251]>
References: <p06110454bcfe755aff9a@[10.71.1.2]>
	<1088782124.1944.53.camel@linux.local>
	<p06110412bd0b2f14dd09@[192.168.1.251]>
Message-ID: <20040702103341.315dc76d.echaparro@uolsinectis.com.ar>

On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 11:44:36 -0400
Robert Guerra <rguerra@lists.privaterra.org> wrote:

[...]
RG> **** Suggested List policies ****
RG> 
RG> 
RG> (1) To reduce bandwidth - Policy on how to share/send files ...
[...]
RG> Thus, if you can save documents in RTF, HTML  or PDF format - then,
RG> please do.
RG> 
RG> If i'm not mistaken, most - if not all - word processing programs 
RG> have the option to save in RTF, HTML and/or PDF.

I agree with your suggested policies. But let me suggest that any
document without significant markup, images or non-latin characters
can be distributed as plain old text, and that should be the preferred
form in those cases. Besides the obvious economy in bandwidth and
portability... IETF has been issuing their documentation in plain text
for more that 30 years, and nobody complains about those being
illegible ;)

Acuerdo con las politicas que sugieres. Pero permiteme sugerir que
cualquier documento sin formato significativo, imagenes o caracteres
no latinos puede distribuirse como texto llano, y esa deberia ser la
forma preferida en dichos casos. Ademas de la obvia economia en ancho
de banda y la portabilidad... la IETF ha estado emitiendo su
documentacion en texto llano por mas de 30 a?os, y nadie se ha
quejado de que fuera ilegible ;)

Saludos desde el Lejano Sur,

Enrique


-- 
``Izena duen guzia omen da.''
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From ljeffrey at ecommons.net  Fri Jul  2 18:24:48 2004
From: ljeffrey at ecommons.net (Liss Jeffrey)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:51 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] [WSIS-CT] Spanish translation UPDATE
In-Reply-To: <p06110412bd0b2f14dd09@[192.168.1.251]>
References: <p06110454bcfe755aff9a@[10.71.1.2]>
 <1088782124.1944.53.camel@linux.local>
 <p06110412bd0b2f14dd09@[192.168.1.251]>
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20040702125448.0320e288@mail.bydesign-elab.net>


We at eCommons/agora and our sister entity byDesign eLab know that many 
many people in the civil society space neither like nor use the web. They 
prefer email.
It seems to me best practice to:
1. always use a clear subject heading and brief summary of who what where 
when why at top of any message.
2. always include documents of reasonable length in the body of the message 
( a judgement call), and at the top of message provide a link to a web site 
where document lives, if one is available. Attachments should be avoided. 
Some of us do not open them.
3. also do as Robert suggests below, where practical
4. make better use of the many resources around if you do not have web 
space of your own.

Robert points to his sites below.
Some of us are signed up to the wsis-online site but you cannot post 
without an intermediary.
At wsis.ecommons.ca or smsi.agora-electronique.ca you can post your own 
documents, and then reference them for others by pointing to a url. Some 
list members are signed in there, and we welcome more. It is so easy to use.

We have volunteers who keep things updated or help out.
We also have on there (thanks to the open source platform drupal, which we 
are experimenting with) an email notification system, so if someone replies 
to you or posts to an area you are interested in, you can get email 
notification and do not need to keep checking on the web site.
We have rss enabled, which is a syndication system, however it seems that 
others do not have this yet, so it is hard to make the Canadian-based civil 
society site of sites we are aiming for, where we could feature updates 
from wsis-online for instance, or for robert's or andy carvin's sites.

This approach would meet the needs of both constituencies, those who prefer 
the web and those who prefer email.
The issue of open or proprietary platforms seems to me secondary here.

Liss J

PS Good timing on this topic as we shall be working on the updates on our 
project next week.

avec l'aide de babel-fish:



Nous ? eCommons/agora et ? notre eLab byDesign savons que beaucoup de gens 
dans la soci?t? civile espace ni aiment ni employons le web. Ils et elles 
pr?f?rent le couriel. Ce semble ? moi la meilleure pratique :
1. employez toujours un declaration clair dans the sujet et donnez un bref 
sommaire de qui ce qui o? quand pourquoi au sommet de tout message.
2. incluez toujours les documents de la longueur raisonnable dans le corps 
du message (un appel de jugement), et au dessus du message fournissez un 
lien ? un site Web o? le document vit, si on est disponible. Des 
attachements devraient ?tre ?vit?s. Certains d'entre nous ne les ouvrent pas.
3. faites ?galement comme Robert sugg?re ci-dessous, o? meilleure 
utilisation pratique de
4. marques des nombreuses ressources autour si vous n'avez pas l'espace de 
web de vos propres.

Points de Robert ? ses emplacements ci-dessous.
Certains d'entre nous sont enregistr?s ? l'emplacement wsis-en ligne mais 
vous ne pouvez pas signaler sans interm?diaire.
? wsis.ecommons.ca ou ? smsi.agora-electronique.ca vous pouvez signaler vos 
propres documents, et puis les mettez en r?f?rence pour d'autres par le 
pointage ? un URL.
Quelques membres de cette liste sont connect?s l?, et nous faisons bon 
accueil ? plus. Il est si facile d'employer.
Nous avons des volontaires qui maintiennent des choses mises ? jour ou 
aidons dehors. Nous avons ?galement sur l? (gr?ce ? la plateforme ouverte 
de source drupal, avec laquelle nous exp?rimentons) un syst?me d'avis de 
courriel, ainsi si quelqu'un r?pond vous ou aux poteaux ? un secteur que 
vous vous int?ressez, et vous pouvez obtenir l'avis de courriel et n'avez 
pas besoin de continuer ? v?rifier le site Web.

Nous faisons permettre des rss, qui est un syst?me de syndication, 
toutefois il semble que d'autres n'ont pas ceci encore, ainsi il est 
difficile de faire l'etoile pour la soci?t? civile que nous envisons, o? 
nous pourrions comporter des mises ? jour d'wsis-en ligne par exemple, ou 
pour le site de robert ou de andy carvin.
Cette approche satisferait les besoins des deux communaut?s, ceux qui 
pr?f?rent le Net et ceux qui pr?f?rent le courriel. La question des 
plateformes ouvertes ou de propri?t? semble ? moi secondaire ici.

Liss J
Bonne synchronisation sur cette mati?re car nous travaillerons sur les 
mises ? jour et notre projet la semaine prochaine.
LJ


At 11:44 AM 02/07/2004, Robert Guerra wrote:
>At 12:28 PM -0300 7/2/04, Beatriz Busaniche wrote:
>>
>>Bus could we please! avoid .doc documents in this mailing list?
>>Pero podr?amos por favor evitar los documentos .doc en esta lista de
>>correos?
>
>I don't want to get into a discussion about the pro's and con's of one 
>particular document format or another. So instead, let me come up with two 
>suggested policies  for the list in regards to documents:
>
>regards,
>
>Robert
>
>
>**** Suggested List policies ****
>
>
>(1) To reduce bandwidth - Policy on how to share/send files ...
>
>Wherever possible, documents should not be attached - but instead placed 
>on a site where people can fetch them.
>
>If there's no central repository where CS has a copy of it's documents - 
>then we should have one...
>
>I'm more than happy to offer space on the existing WSIS related wiki and 
>file directory that i have to be used by anyone here. URL is  - 
>http://cms.privaterra.org/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=7
>
>(2) To recognize we all use different OS platforms - Policy on file 
>formats .....
>
>let's not enter into a debate as to which one is best, worse or anything 
>of the kind..(personally, i'd rather have that debate take place 
>elsewhere, as it's not the exclusive issue affecting us right now) 
>instead, let's save and share our documents in as platform and 
>application  independent format as possible.
>
>Thus, if you can save documents in RTF, HTML  or PDF format - then, please do.
>
>If i'm not mistaken, most - if not all - word processing programs have the 
>option to save in RTF, HTML and/or PDF.
>
>(personal note - i like PDF as it allows one to see documents written in 
>non-european character sets much better, without the need of loading tons 
>of extra fonts..)
>
>
>As I may have referred to at the beginning - let's understand the fact 
>that those of us on this list are using a variety of different platforms, 
>operating systems and programs to communicate. Let's respect the 
>individual choice we've all made and be as accommodating as possible.
>
>Let's respect that choice and move on to what's technically required to 
>make everyone happy. If RTF documents can help - then, let's suggest 
>(where possible) people use it.
>
>
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>Plenary@wsis-cs.org
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From: rguerra at lists.privaterra.org (Robert Guerra)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:51 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Chinese equipment for WSIS/Tunisia
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Well, just caught the following (below) by searching for WSIS in google news...

It seems that China is providing Tunisia with Telecommunications 
equipment ...for the WSIS summit...

Draw your own conclustions..


regards,

Robert


http://www.3gnewsroom.com/3g_news/jul_04/news_4681.shtml
Huawei to provide 3G trial for Tunisia WSIS Conference

July 2, 2004

On June 22, 2004, the Ministry of Communications Technologies and 
Transportation of Tunisia decided to choose Huawei UMTS equipment to 
provide 3G trial services in Tunisia. The trial will last for around 
one year's time.

  As a matter of fact, the second phase of the World Summit on the 
Information Society will be held in Tunisia in November 2005. The 
representatives of governments, international organizations, civil 
society and the private sector will come to Tunisia to discuss how 
the world can eliminate the digital divide in content and physical 
infrastructure. It is for this important summit that Tunisia 
government selects Huawei 3G equipment to serve WSIS after strict 
certification. The two cites that will hold the summit, Tunis and 
Hammamet, will be covered by Huawei 3G system.

The MoU is expected to cover the entire end-to-end UMTS solution 
needed for the 3G launch, including UMTS wireless access network, 
core network, 3G mobile intelligent network, 3G mobile data service 
platform and even 3G handsets. For the UMTS system, Huawei will 
provide all the equipment based on 3GPP R4 protocol. The core network 
is backward compatible with 3GPP R99 and GSM. And Huawei will provide 
diversified UMTS services to let people experience the splendid 3G 
world, which includes MMS, Video Phone, Video Conference, Streaming, 
Pocket TV, Push To Talk, Internet Surfing and so on.

Huawei Senior VP Mr. Ding Shaohua said, "Through 5 years' effort, 
Huawei has become a long-term and strategic partner with Tunisia 
Telecom."

Till the end of 2003, Huawei had successfully deployed commercial 
UMTS network in UAE and Hong Kong. Till now Huawei has finished the 
whole Etisalat UMTS project. In Hong Kong, the SUNDAY project is also 
going smoothly.

Headquarters
Addr: Addr: HUAWEI TECHNOLOGIES CO.LTD. BANXUEGANG INDUSTRIAL PARK, 
BUJI LONGGANG, SHENZHEN 518129, P.R.C
Tel: +86-755-28780808
  Fax: +86-755-28780808
Zip code: 518129




From marco at hipatia.info  Fri Jul  2 23:27:37 2004
From: marco at hipatia.info (Marco Ciurcina)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:51 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Hammamet plenary - CS@WSIS
Message-ID: <1088807257.1977.131.camel@mac>

Transparency and democratic participation.

Transparencia y participaci?n democr?tica.

Transparence et participation d?mocratique.


--------------
(English)

One week passed since some of us lived the experience of the Hammamet
plenaries.

In my opinion there are things that are extremely important and were
left unsaid in this mailing list, but they were not in the plenaries.
Particularly, during the last plenary, the discussion (even if it was
affected by the very emotional events of the previous sessions) was very
constructive and well focused.
Almost everybody expressed the following:
- plenary and Bureau way of working lacks of transparency;
- CS@WSIS way of working lacks of democratic participation.

Then it was said that the Bureau is going to draft rules and procedures
to be discussed in this mailing list and proposed to the plenary during
the next prepcom.
This was very appreciated.

I think that the Bureau should take into serious consideration the
indications that emerged during the plenary and new draft rules and
procedures should be deeply inspired by the principals of:
1 - transparency 
2 - democratic participation.

According to this, I think that (but these are just examples):
1       - no document should be approved, and decision taken,
          without being previously made available to the plenary;
2       - the central role of the plenary should be reaffirmed, against 
          any attempt to "empty" its powers of decision and pre-making 
          decisions somewhere else;
        - people away should be allowed to partecipate in the 
          decision making process (through internet).

I think that CS@WSIS has no other option that going in this direction.

Marco Ciurcina
Hipatia 


----------------
(espanol)

Una semana pas? desde que algunos de nosotros vivieron la experiencia de
las sesiones plenarias de Hammamet.

Hay cosas que, en mi opini?n, son extremadamente importantes y que no se
dijeron lo suficiente en esta lista, pero si lo fueron en las sesiones
plenarias.
Particularmente, durante la ultima sesi?n plenaria, la discusi?n (aun si
fue afectada por los acontecimientos muy emocionales de las sesiones
anteriores) fue muy constructiva y bien enfocada.
Casi todos expresaron lo siguiente:
- el funcionamiento de las sesiones plenarias y del Bureau carece de
transparencia;
- el funcionamiento de la CS@WSIS carece de participaci?n democr?tica.

Entonces se dijo que el Bureau va a redactar un borrador de reglas y
procedimientos que se discutir?n en esta lista y que seran propuestos a
la sesi?n plenaria durante el prepcom siguiente.
Esto fue muy apreciado.

Pienso que el Bureau debe tomar en la maxima consideraci?n las
indicaciones que emergieron durante la sesi?n plenaria y el nuevo
borrador de reglas y procedimientos se debe inspirar profundamente por
los principios de:
1 - transparencia
2 - participaci?n democr?tica.

Seg?n esto, pienso que (pero ?stos son solamente ejemplos):
1       - ning?n documento o propuesta debe ser approvado sin 
          previamente ser puesto a disposici?n de la sesi?n plenaria;
2       - el papel central de la sesi?n plenaria se debe reafirmar, 
          contra cualquier tentativo de vaciar sus poderes de decisi?n
	         y de pre-fabricar decisiones en alguna otra parte;
        - la gente que no esta presente debe ser permitida de 
	  participar en el proceso de toma de decisi?n (a trav?s de 
	  Internet).

Pienso que CS@WSIS no tiene ninguna otra opci?n al ir en esta direcci?n.
Marco Ciurcina 
Hipatia


---------------
(francais)

Une semaine a pass? depuis que certains de nous ont v?cu l'exp?rience
des sessions pl?ni?res d'Hammamet.

Il y a des choses qui, ? mon avis, sont extr?mement importantes et on
n'a pas dit dans cette mailing list, mais qu'on a dit en session
pl?ni?re. 
En particulier, pendant la derni?re session pl?ni?re, la discussion
(m?me si elle ?tait affect?e par les ?v?nements tr?s ?motifs des
sessions pr?c?dentes) ?tait tr?s constructive et bien focalis?e.
Presque tout le monde a exprim? ce qui suit:
- le fonctionnement des pl?ni?res e du Bureau manque de transparence;
- le fonctionnement de la CS@WSIS manque de participation
d?mocratique.

Alors on nous a dit que le Bureau va r?diger une proposition de r?gles
et proc?dures ? discuter dans cette mailing liste et qui seront
propos?es ? la session pl?ni?re pendant le prochain prepcom. 
Ca a ?t? tr?s appr?ci?.

Je pense que le Bureau devrait considerer tr?s s?rieusement les
indications qui ont ?merg? pendant le session pl?ni?re et les nouvelles
r?gles et proc?dures devraient ?tre profond?ment inspir?es par les
principes de:
1 - transparence
2 - participation d?mocratique.
Selon ceci, je pense que (mais ce ne sont que des exemples): 
1       - aucun document ou decision ne devrait pas ?tre approv? sans
          avoir ?tre rendu disponible ? la session pl?ni?re ? 
          l'avance; 
2       - le r?le central de la session pl?ni?re devrait ?tre
r?affirm?,         
contre n'importe quelle tentative de "vider" ses pouvoirs de 
          d?cision et de pr?-fabriquer de d?cisions ailleurs;
        - on devrait permettre ? ceux qui sont loin de parteciper dans 
          le processus d?cisionnel (par l'Internet). 

Je pense que CS@WSIS n'a aucune autre option que celle d'aller dans
cette direction. 

Marco Ciurcina
Hipatia


From marzouki at ras.eu.org  Sat Jul  3 00:22:19 2004
From: marzouki at ras.eu.org (Meryem Marzouki)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:51 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=28FR=29_SMSI=A0-=A0Le_Caucus_des_droits_de_l'hom?=
 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?me_souligne_des_avanc=E9es_majeures_en_d=E9pit_de?=
 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?s_tentatives_d'obstruction_?=
Message-ID: <A9ED18A0-CC7E-11D8-B284-0003935A8C90@ras.eu.org>

Chers tous,

Veuillez trouver ci-apr?s le communiqu? du caucus des droits de l'homme 
pr?sentant son bilan ? la suite de la PrepCom1 qui s'est tenue ? 
Hammamet du 24 au 26 juin 2004, en pr?paration ? la phase de Tunis du 
SMSI.

Ce communiqu? sera prochainement sur le site du caucus : 
http://www.iris.sgdg.org/actions/smsi/hr-wsis

Il est pour l'instant accessible ? l'adresse suivante : 
http://www.iris.sgdg.org/info-debat/comm-smsi0704.html

Le communiqu? est actuellement disponible en Fran?ais et en Anglais. 
Toute traduction dans une autre langue sera la bienvenue.

Meryem Marzouki, co-coordinatrice du caucus.
==================
SMSI?-?Le Caucus des droits de l'homme souligne des avanc?es majeures 
en d?pit des tentatives d'obstruction
Communiqu? du Caucus des droits de l'homme au SMSI?-?2 juillet 2004

? l'issue de la premi?re conf?rence pr?paratoire (PrepCom1) de la 
seconde phase du Sommet mondial sur la soci?t? de l'information (SMSI), 
qui a eu lieu ? Hammamet (Tunisie) du 24 au 26 juin 2004, le Caucus des 
droits de l'homme se f?licite des avanc?es notables qui ont finalement 
marqu? le d?marrage de la phase de Tunis, malgr? les manoeuvres 
inacceptables d'un certain nombre de provocateurs qui ont tent? de 
d?stabiliser les travaux des organisations de la soci?t? civile et de 
jeter le discr?dit sur le Caucus et ses membres.

Le Caucus, qui comprend 50 organisations de tous pays, s'est mobilis? 
depuis la premi?re conf?rence pr?paratoire de la premi?re phase du 
Sommet, en juillet 2002, afin que les droits de l'homme ne soient pas 
?cart?s de l'agenda du SMSI, pas plus que de son processus.

Des avanc?es majeures qui confirment le bien-fond? de la participation

Le Caucus consid?re tout d'abord comme un signe tr?s positif 
l'accr?ditation des trois ONG tunisiennes ind?pendantes ayant pu 
effectuer ? temps les formalit?s n?cessaires. Ainsi, la Ligue 
tunisienne des droits de l'homme (LTDH), la section tunisienne 
d'Amnesty International (AI-Tunisie) et l'Association tunisienne des 
femmes d?mocrates (ATFD) peuvent s'exprimer en leurs noms propres 
durant les travaux.

Une autre avanc?e majeure pour le Caucus r?sulte de la pr?sentation par 
Souhayr Belhassen, vice-pr?sidente de la LTDH et vice-pr?sidente de la 
F?d?ration internationale des ligues des droits de l'homme (FIDH), de 
la d?claration de la soci?t? civile relative ? la question des droits 
de l'homme dans la soci?t? de l'information. Le Caucus tient ? 
remercier ? cet ?gard le pr?sident du processus pr?paratoire de Tunis, 
l'ambassadeur letton Janis Karklins, sans qui cette pr?sentation 
n'aurait pu avoir lieu devant la pl?ni?re des gouvernements, samedi 26 
juin 2004. Le Caucus prend ?galement acte de la bonne volont? 
manifest?e par les autorit?s tunisiennes, qui ont finalement accept? 
que cette intervention soit pr?sent?e.

Ces avanc?es importantes montrent que le Caucus a fait le bon choix en 
refusant r?solument la solution de facilit? consistant ? boycotter la 
pr?paration de la phase de Tunis.

Une p?tition ? l'initiative du Caucus, et sign?e par une cinquantaine 
d'ONG en septembre 2003, identifiait l'engagement de permettre ? tous 
les repr?sentants de la soci?t? civile tunisienne et internationale de 
participer librement aux travaux du Sommet comme l'un des signes 
concrets attendus de la Tunisie en faveur du respect des droits de 
l'homme et des libert?s fondamentales. Ce sera l'une des conditions qui 
subordonneront la participation au Sommet lui-m?me, qui devrait se 
d?rouler ? Tunis en novembre 2005.

Des tentatives inacceptables d'obstruction par des provocateurs

Malgr? ces premiers signes encourageants, le Caucus ne peut que 
d?plorer, avec l'ensemble des organisations de la soci?t? civile, les 
tentatives d'obstruction des travaux des ONG r?unies en pl?ni?re. Un 
nombre important de personnes, se pr?sentant comme ??la soci?t? civile 
tunisienne??, a gravement perturb? les travaux jusqu'? l'annonce de la 
d?cision de l'ambassadeur Karklins. Pratiques syst?matiques de 
d?sinformation, tentatives de discr?dit du Caucus et de ses membres, 
remplissage ?hont? de la salle par des gens amen?s sur place par bus 
entiers, violentes agressions verbales envers les participants, 
entraves ? leur simple expression en faisant r?gner le chaos dans la 
salle, ont ?t? les d?risoires moyens utilis?s par ces provocateurs pour 
tenter d'emp?cher ? la fois qu'une repr?sentante de la LTDH s'exprime 
au nom des organisations de la soci?t? civile pr?sentes et que le texte 
l?gitimement produit par le comit? de r?daction mandat? par la pl?ni?re 
de la soci?t? civile, selon les proc?dures agr??es par tous depuis les 
d?buts de la phase de Gen?ve, soit conserv?.

Le Caucus regrette en particulier que les organisations de la soci?t? 
civile n'aient pas pu, du fait de cette situation, discuter dans des 
conditions normales de l'ensemble des th?mes qui font l'objet de la 
seconde phase du SMSI, en premier lieu ceux relatifs ? la gouvernance 
d'Internet et au financement des infrastructures.

La participation du Caucus des droits de l'homme a ?t? d?cisive ? la 
premi?re phase du SMSI, tant par le nombre et la qualit? de ses membres 
que par l'importance de son travail. Le Caucus a organis? une r?union 
le 24 juin 2004 ? Hammamet qui a connu une affluence record et a vu la 
participation du repr?sentant du Haut Commissaire des Nations Unies aux 
Droits de l'homme. Apr?s l'expos? de sa composition, de ses missions et 
de ses travaux pass?s, le Caucus a encourag? la participation de 
nouveaux membres, pour autant qu'il s'agisse d'organisations et non 
d'individus et que les objectifs de protection et de promotion des 
droits de l'homme dans le processus du SMSI et dans tous les pays du 
monde, ? commencer par le pays d'accueil du Sommet. Le Caucus ne se 
laissera pas intimider par les tentatives de discr?dit de certains 
provocateurs, pas plus qu'il n'acceptera d'?tre noyaut? par des 
organisations ou des personnes dont les agissements sont contraires au 
respect le plus ?l?mentaire des droits de l'homme.

De m?me, le Caucus sera particuli?rement attentif ? ce que, en son sein 
comme plus globalement au sein des organisations de la soci?t? civile 
participant au processus, des r?gles strictes emp?chent de tels 
d?bordements ? l'avenir. Il engage les autorit?s du pays h?te du 
Sommet, avec l'ensemble des organisateurs du processus, ? faire en 
sorte que l'organisation des travaux se d?roule ? l'avenir dans le 
calme et le respect mutuel, afin que les avanc?es qui seront retenues ? 
l'issue de la r?union de Hammamet puissent ?tre poursuivies et 
constat?es par tous.

Encourager des avanc?es futures

Parmi ces avanc?es futures, le Caucus esp?re que les ONG tunisiennes 
ind?pendantes b?n?ficieront enfin de la reconnaissance l?gale qui leur 
est jusqu'ici refus?e, sans explication, alors qu'elles sont actives au 
grand jour depuis plusieurs ann?es pour certaines. L'absence de 
reconnaissance de leur droit l?gitime ? la libert? d'association ne 
leur permet pas de pr?tendre ? participer officiellement aux travaux du 
SMSI. C'est le cas du Conseil national pour les libert?s en Tunisie 
(CNLT), du Rassemblement pour une Alternative de D?veloppement (RAID, 
ATTAC-Tunisie), de l'Association internationale de soutien aux 
prisonniers politiques  (AISPPT), de l'Association de lutte contre la 
torture en Tunisie (ALTT), de l'Observatoire pour la d?fense des 
libert?s de la presse, de l'?dition et de la cr?ation (OLPEC), et de 
bien d'autres. Alors que le SMSI se pr?tend exemplaire d'une ouverture 
des travaux des Nations Unies ? une meilleure participation de la 
soci?t? civile, allant m?me jusqu'? reconna?tre un ??bureau de la 
soci?t? civile??, le Caucus attend des autorit?s du pays d'accueil 
qu'elles traduisent localement ce discours en mesures concr?tes, 
reconnaissant officiellement l'existence l?gale de ces groupes.

Par ailleurs, le Caucus souhaite rappeler sa pr?occupation quant ? 
l'exclusion de l'un de ses membres, Human Rights in China, la seule 
organisation de droits de l'Homme travaillant sur la Chine, d?s la 
premi?re phase du sommet, sans explication officielle de la part des 
organisateurs.

L'accr?ditation n'est pas la seule pr?occupation du Caucus et des 
signataires de la p?tition de septembre 2003. La lib?ration des 
prisonniers d'opinion en est une autre. Cette PrepCom1 a eu lieu moins 
d'une semaine apr?s le report du verdict en appel dans l'affaire dite 
des ??internautes de Zarzis??, qui ont ?t? condamn?s en premi?re 
instance aux peines tr?s lourdes de 20 ann?es de prison inflig?es ? des 
jeunes d'une vingtaine d'ann?es. Les preuves retenues contre eux sont 
principalement des documents qu'ils auraient t?l?charg?s sur Internet. 
Si les autorit?s tunisiennes sont en possession d'?l?ments tangibles 
justifiant leurs accusations de terrorisme ? l'encontre des internautes 
de Zarzis, elles doivent en faire ?tat publiquement dans le cadre d'un 
proc?s ?quitable. ? d?faut, le Caucus, comme l'ensemble des 
observateurs internationaux, ne pourra que consid?rer, et faire savoir 
largement dans le cadre du SMSI et au-del?, que la seule consultation 
du r?seau Internet peut co?ter 20 ans de prison dans le pays h?te de la 
seconde phase du SMSI.

Le Caucus entend poursuivre sa mission

Le Caucus a ?t? cr?? pour inscrire les droits de l'homme ? l'agenda du 
SMSI, dans le respect de leur universalit? et de leur indivisibilit?. 
Parce qu'il ne saurait y avoir de d?mocratie sans d?veloppement juste, 
le Caucus est pleinement conscient de l'importance fondamentale de la 
tenue du SMSI ? Tunis, pour le peuple tunisien et pour les peuples de 
l'ensemble des pays du Sud, et souhaite donc sa r?ussite. Mais parce 
qu'il ne saurait pas plus y avoir de d?veloppement sans d?mocratie, le 
Caucus s'emploiera, tout au long du processus de Tunis, ? contr?ler les 
conditions dans lesquelles ce processus se d?roule, et rendra compte en 
particulier des entraves ? l'exercice des droits de l'homme et des 
libert?s fondamentales constat?es dans le pays d'accueil. C'est ? la 
lumi?re du bilan qui pourra ?tre tir? en 2005 que tous les participants 
au processus, ?tats, organisations internationales, secteur priv? et 
soci?t? civile, seront appel?s ? se d?terminer.

Repr?sentants du Caucus des droits de l'homme ? Hammamet?:
  - Rikke Frank Jorgensen, DIHR - Danish Institute for Human Rights (DK) 
- Coordinatrice
  - Antoine Madelin, FIDH - F?d?ration internationale des Ligues des 
droits de l'homme
  - Meryem Marzouki, IRIS - Imaginons un r?seau Internet solidaire (FR) 
- Coordinatrice

Contacts presse?:
  - Rikke Frank Jorgensen - rfj@humanrights.dk
  - Antoine Madelin - amadelin@fidh.org, + 32 2 209 62 89
  - Meryem Marzouki - Meryem.Marzouki@iris.sgdg.org

Activit?s et documents du Caucus lors de la premi?re phase du SMSI?:
  http://www.iris.sgdg.org/actions/smsi/hr-wsis

--
Meryem Marzouki - http://www.iris.sgdg.org
IRIS - Imaginons un r?seau Internet solidaire
294 rue de Charenton - 75012 Paris
Tel/Fax. +33(0)144749239

From marzouki at ras.eu.org  Sat Jul  3 00:22:05 2004
From: marzouki at ras.eu.org (Meryem Marzouki)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:51 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=28EN=29_WSIS=A0-=A0The_Human_Rights_Caucus_stres?=
 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ses_major_advances_despite_attempts_of_blockage__?=
Message-ID: <A17A1420-CC7E-11D8-B284-0003935A8C90@ras.eu.org>

Dear all,

Please find hereafter the human rights caucus communique, presenting 
its assessment of the PrepCom1 held in Hammamet June 24-26, 2004, in 
preparation of WSIS Tunis phase.

This communique will be available soon on the caucus website: 
http://www.iris.sgdg.org/actions/smsi/hr-wsis

It is as for now accessible at: 
http://www.iris.sgdg.org/info-debat/comm-wsis0704.html

The communique is available in English and French. Any translation into 
other languages is welcome.

Meryem Marzouki, caucus co-coordinator.
==================
WSIS?-?The Human Rights Caucus stresses major advances despite attempts 
of blockage
WSIS Civil Society Human Rights Caucus Communique?-?July 2, 2004

After the conclusion of the first preparatory committee (PrepCom1) of 
the second phase of the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS), 
which took place in Hammamet (Tunisia) from 24 to 26 June, 2004, the 
Human Rights Caucus is pleased with the noteworthy advances which the 
starting of the Tunis phase has finally shown, despite unacceptable 
practices of a number of agent provocateurs who attempted to disrupt 
the work of civil society organizations and to discredit the Caucus and 
its members.

The Caucus, which includes 50 organizations from around the world, has 
been working since the first preparatory meeting of the first phase of 
the Summit, in July 2002, to ensure that human rights are not left off 
the WSIS agenda, neither off its process.

Major advances which confirm that participating has been the right 
choice

The first very positive sign was the accreditation of the 3 independent 
Tunisian NGOs which were able to meet the administrative requirements 
to attend the WSIS second phase as civil society. This way, the 
Tunisian Human Rights League (LTDH), Amnesty International-Tunisia and 
the Tunisian Association of Democratic Women (ATFD) are able to express 
themselves in their own names during the process.

Another major advance for the Caucus was the civil societye 
intervention by Souhayr Belhassen, the vice-president of the LTDH and 
vice-president of the International Federation of Human Rights Leagues 
(FIDH), in which she addressed human rights in the information society 
on behalf of civil society. The Caucus wishes to thank the president of 
the Tunis preparatory process, the Latvian ambassador Janis Karklins, 
without whom this intervention could not have been presented in the 
government plenary on Saturday June 26, 2004. The Caucus also takes due 
note of the Tunisian authorities willingness to finally let Souhayr 
Belhassen present her  statement.

These important advances show that the Caucus has made the right choice 
by resolutely refusing the boycott of the preparation of the Tunis 
phase, as would have been the easy way out.

A petition initiated by the Caucus and signed by approximately 50 NGOs 
in September 2003 has identified the commitment to allow all civil 
society representatives from Tunisia and abroad to participate freely 
in the work of the Summit as one of the concrete signs expected from 
Tunisia in favor of the respect for human rights and fundamental 
freedoms. This will be one of the conditions subordinating the 
participation to the Summit itself, which is scheduled to take place in 
Tunis in November 2005.

Unacceptable attempts of blockage by agent provocateurs

Despite these first encouraging signs, the Caucus must deplore, 
together with the whole set of civil society organizations, the 
attempts of obstructing the work of the NGOs gathered in the civil 
society plenary session. An important number of people, presenting 
themselves as "the Tunisian civil society", seriously disrupted the 
process, until the announcement of ambassador Karklins decision. 
Systematic practices of disinformation, attempts to discredit the 
Caucus and its members, shameless room filling with people brought on 
site with buses, violent verbal aggressiveness against participants, 
hindrance to their simple expression by turning the meetings into 
chaos, were some of the means used by these agent provocateurs in order 
to forbid a representative of the LTDH from speaking in the name of the 
participating civil society organizations. By these means the agent 
provocateurs sought to prevent the statement, legitimately produced by 
the drafting committee mandated by the civil society plenary, according 
to the generally agreed rules and procedures since the beginning of the 
Geneva phase, be kept as written.

The Caucus particularly regrets that because of this situation civil 
society organizations have not been able to discuss under normal 
conditions the whole set of themes, which the WSIS second phase is 
dealing with, not least those related to Internet governance and to 
infrastructure financing.

The Human Rights Caucus participation has been crucial during the first 
phase of WSIS, by the number and the quality of its members as well as 
by the importance of its work. The Caucus organized a meeting on June 
24, 2004 in Hammamet, which was very well attended, including the 
representative from the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human 
Rights. After the presentation of its composition, its missions and its 
past achievements, the Caucus encouraged new members to join, provided 
that they are organizations and not individuals and that they agree to 
the goal of protecting and promoting human rights standards in the WSIS 
process and in all countries of the world, not least the host country 
of the Summit. The Caucus will not allow a number of agent provocateurs 
to intimidate it with their attempts of discredit, just as it will not 
accept any takeover attempt by organizations or persons whose practices 
contradicts the least minimum of human rights standards.

On a similar note, the Caucus will, together with civil society as a 
whole, take measures to ensure that such outburst of abuses are 
prevented in the future. It encourages the authorities of the Summit 
host country, together with all the organizers, to make sure that the 
work may proceed in a calm and mutual respectful atmosphere, so that 
the progress reached after the Hammamet meeting may be pursued and 
acknowledged by all.

Encouraging future progress

As goals for future progress, the Caucus hopes that many independent 
Tunisian NGOs finally receive the legal recognition they have been 
deprived of up to now, in general without any explanation, while some 
of them have been openly active for many years. The lack of recognition 
of their legitimate right to freedom of association prevents them from 
officially participating in the WSIS process. This is for instance the 
case of the National Council for Freedoms in Tunisia (CNLT), the Union 
for a Development Alternative (RAID, ATTAC-Tunisia), the International 
Association for Supporting Political Prisoners (AISPP), the Association 
for Fighting Torture in Tunisia (ALTT), the Observatory for the Defense 
of Press Freedom, Publishing and Creation (OLPEC), and many others. 
While WSIS claims exemplarity in opening United Nations activities to a 
stronger civil society participation, going as far as officially 
recognizing a "civil society bureau", the Caucus expects from the host 
country authorities that they locally translate this discourse into 
concrete measures by officially recognizing the legal existence of 
these groups.

In addition, the Caucus would like to restate its concern related to 
the exclusion of one of its members, Human Rights in China, the only 
organization for the defense of human rights in China. Human Rights in 
China has been excluded since the first phase of the Summit without any 
official explanation from the organizers.

The issue of accreditation is not the only concern of the Caucus and of 
the signatories of the September 2003 petition. The freeing of 
prisoners of opinion is one of the others. This PrepCom1 has been held 
less than a week after the postponement of the judgment in appeal in 
the case known as "the Zarzis Internet users" (les internautes de 
Zarzis), where persons, less than 20-years old, have been sentenced the 
very heavy penalty of 20 years jail. The evidence held against them are 
mainly documents which would have been downloaded from the Internet. If 
the Tunisian authorities have tangible elements of evidence justifying 
that Zarzis Internet users are charged with terrorism accusations, they 
should exhibit them publicly in the framework of a fair trial. 
Otherwise, the Caucus, like all international observers, would be 
obliged to consider, and to widely inform in the WSIS context and 
beyond, that the sole consultation of the Internet may cost 20 years 
jail in the host country of the WSIS second phase.

The Caucus will pursue its mission

The Caucus has been created to put human rights on the WSIS agenda, 
with full respect of their universality and their indivisibility. Since 
there can be no democracy without fair development, the Human Rights 
Caucus is fully conscious of the fundamental importance of holding WSIS 
in Tunis, for the Tunisian people as well as for all the peoples of the 
global South countries, and thus, wishes its success. But since there 
can be no development without democracy, the Caucus will, during the 
Tunis process monitor the conditions in which this process is 
proceeding, and will report on obstacles to the exercise of human 
rights and fundamental freedoms in the host country. In light of the 
general human rights assessment made in 2005, all the participants to 
the process, governments, international organizations, private sector 
and civil society, will be called for making their decision.

Representatives of the Human Rights Caucus in Hammamet:
  - Rikke Frank Jorgensen, DIHR - Danish Institute for Human Rights (DK) 
- Coordinator
  - Antoine Madelin, FIDH - F?d?ration internationale des Ligues des 
droits de l'homme
  - Meryem Marzouki, IRIS - Imaginons un r?seau Internet solidaire (FR) 
- Coordinator

Press contacts:
  - Rikke Frank Jorgensen - rfj@humanrights.dk
  - Antoine Madelin - amadelin@fidh.org, + 32 2 209 62 89
  - Meryem Marzouki - Meryem.Marzouki@iris.sgdg.org

Activities and documents of the Caucus during WSIS first phase:
  http://www.iris.sgdg.org/actions/smsi/hr-wsis


--
Meryem Marzouki - http://www.iris.sgdg.org
IRIS - Imaginons un r?seau Internet solidaire
294 rue de Charenton - 75012 Paris
Tel/Fax. +33(0)144749239

From ciurcina at studiolegale.it  Fri Jul  2 23:15:30 2004
From: ciurcina at studiolegale.it (Marco Ciurcina)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:51 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Hammamet plenary - CS@WSIS
Message-ID: <1088806529.1974.125.camel@mac>

Transparency and democratic participation.

Transparencia y participaci?n democr?tica.

Transparence et participation d?mocratique.


--------------
(English)

One week passed since some of us lived the experience of the Hammamet
plenaries.

In my opinion there are things that are extremely important and were
left unsaid in this mailing list, but they were not in the plenaries.
Particularly, during the last plenary, the discussion (even if it was
affected by the very emotional events of the previous sessions) was very
constructive and well focused.
Almost everybody expressed the following:
- plenary and Bureau way of working lacks of transparency;
- CS@WSIS way of working lacks of democratic participation.

Then it was said that the Bureau is going to draft rules and procedures
to be discussed in this mailing list and proposed to the plenary during
the next prepcom.
This was very appreciated.

I think that the Bureau should take into serious consideration the
indications that emerged during the plenary and new draft rules and
procedures should be deeply inspired by the principals of:
1 - transparency 
2 - democratic participation.

According to this, I think that (but these are just examples):
1       - no document should be approved, and decision taken,
	  without being previously made available to the plenary;
2       - the central role of the plenary should be reaffirmed, against 
          any attempt to "empty" its powers of decision and pre-making 
          decisions somewhere else;
        - people away should be allowed to partecipate in the 
          decision making process (through internet).

I think that CS@WSIS has no other option that going in this direction.

Marco Ciurcina
Hipatia 


----------------
(espanol)

Una semana pas? desde que algunos de nosotros vivieron la experiencia de
las sesiones plenarias de Hammamet.

Hay cosas que, en mi opini?n, son extremadamente importantes y que no se
dijeron lo suficiente en esta lista, pero si lo fueron en las sesiones
plenarias.
Particularmente, durante la ultima sesi?n plenaria, la discusi?n (aun si
fue afectada por los acontecimientos muy emocionales de las sesiones
anteriores) fue muy constructiva y bien enfocada.
Casi todos expresaron lo siguiente:
- el funcionamiento de las sesiones plenarias y del Bureau carece de
transparencia;
- el funcionamiento de la CS@WSIS carece de participaci?n democr?tica.

Entonces se dijo que el Bureau va a redactar un borrador de reglas y
procedimientos que se discutir?n en esta lista y que seran propuestos a
la sesi?n plenaria durante el prepcom siguiente.
Esto fue muy apreciado.

Pienso que el Bureau debe tomar en la maxima consideraci?n las
indicaciones que emergieron durante la sesi?n plenaria y el nuevo
borrador de reglas y procedimientos se debe inspirar profundamente por
los principios de:
1 - transparencia
2 - participaci?n democr?tica.

Seg?n esto, pienso que (pero ?stos son solamente ejemplos):
1       - ning?n documento o propuesta debe ser approvado sin 
          previamente ser puesto a disposici?n de la sesi?n plenaria;
2       - el papel central de la sesi?n plenaria se debe reafirmar, 
          contra cualquier tentativo de vaciar sus poderes de decisi?n
y          de
pre-fabricar decisiones en alguna otra parte;
        - la gente que no esta presente debe ser permitida de
participar          en
el proceso de toma de decisi?n (a trav?s de Internet).

Pienso que CS@WSIS no tiene ninguna otra opci?n al ir en esta direcci?n.
Marco Ciurcina 
Hipatia


---------------
(francais)

Une semaine a pass? depuis que certains de nous ont v?cu l'exp?rience
des sessions pl?ni?res d'Hammamet.

Il y a des choses qui, ? mon avis, sont extr?mement importantes et on
n'a pas dit dans cette mailing list, mais qu'on a dit en session
pl?ni?re. 
En particulier, pendant la derni?re session pl?ni?re, la discussion
(m?me si elle ?tait affect?e par les ?v?nements tr?s ?motifs des
sessions pr?c?dentes) ?tait tr?s constructive et bien focalis?e.
Presque tout le monde a exprim? ce qui suit:
- le fonctionnement des pl?ni?res e du Bureau manque de transparence;
- le fonctionnement de la CS@WSIS manque de participation
d?mocratique.

Alors on nous a dit que le Bureau va r?diger une proposition de r?gles
et proc?dures ? discuter dans cette mailing liste et qui seront
propos?es ? la session pl?ni?re pendant le prochain prepcom. 
Ca a ?t? tr?s appr?ci?.

Je pense que le Bureau devrait considerer tr?s s?rieusement les
indications qui ont ?merg? pendant le session pl?ni?re et les nouvelles
r?gles et proc?dures devraient ?tre profond?ment inspir?es par les
principes de:
1 - transparence
2 - participation d?mocratique.
Selon ceci, je pense que (mais ce ne sont que des exemples): 
1       - aucun document ou decision ne devrait pas ?tre approv? sans
          avoir ?tre rendu disponible ? la session pl?ni?re ? 
          l'avance; 
2       - le r?le central de la session pl?ni?re devrait ?tre
r?affirm?,         
contre n'importe quelle tentative de "vider" ses pouvoirs de 
          d?cision et de pr?-fabriquer de d?cisions ailleurs;
        - on devrait permettre ? ceux qui sont loin de parteciper dans 
          le processus d?cisionnel (par l'Internet). 

Je pense que CS@WSIS n'a aucune autre option que celle d'aller dans
cette direction. 

Marco Ciurcina
Hipatia


From karenb at gn.apc.org  Sat Jul  3 09:23:01 2004
From: karenb at gn.apc.org (karen banks)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:51 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] STATUS: CS Documents on WSIS site
Message-ID: <6.1.1.1.0.20040703090638.04461280@pop.gn.apc.org>

dear all,

(note - all translations are from babelfish)

The following statements are now on the WSIS site
Les rapports suivants sont maintenant sur l'emplacement de WSIS
Las declaraciones siguientes ahora est?n en el sitio de WSIS
(http://www.itu.int/wsis/documents/listing-all.asp?lang=en?&c_event=pc2|1&c_type=all|)

25 June 2004 - Observers (Civil Society): Context (english)
25 June 2004 - Observers (Civil society): Participation (english)
25 June 2004 - Observers (Civil Society): Development (english)

26 June 2004 - Observers (Civil society): Human rights (1) Belhassen 
(english, french)
26 June 2004 - Observers (Civil society): Human rights (2) N'Diaye (french)
26 June 2004 - Observers (Civil Society): Internet Governance (english)

By monday, we will have the following documents in the following languages 
which will be submitted to the WSIS secretariat who have agreed to upload them:

Par lundi, nous aurons les documents suivants dans les langues suivantes 
qui seront soumises au secr?tariat de WSIS qui ont accepte de les t?l?charger:

Por lunes, tendremos los documentos siguientes en las idiomas siguientes 
que ser?n sometidas a la secretar?a de WSIS que tiene acord? upload las:

June 25
1. context - english, arabic, french
2. development - english, arabic, french
3. Participation - english, arabic, french

June 26
1. Human rights (Belhassen) - english, arabic, french, spanish
2. Human rights (Awa) - french
3. Internet governance - english, arabic, french

we are particularly looking for help with spanish translation for most of 
the above.

estamos buscando particularmente ayuda con la traducci?n espa?ola para la 
mayor?a del antedicho.

nous recherchons en particulier l'aide avec la traduction espagnole pour 
les la plupart de ce qui pr?c?de.

karen


From info at virtualactivism.net  Sat Jul  3 09:25:58 2004
From: info at virtualactivism.net (info@virtualactivism.net)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:51 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] STATUS: CS Documents on WSIS site
In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.0.20040703090638.04461280@pop.gn.apc.org>
Message-ID: <000201c460d7$60473110$5f1c723e@Marlyn>

Karen, just a note: my translations are not BabelFish because Babelfish
has no Arabic translation. 
Thanks

Marlyn Tadros, Ph.D
Executive Director
Virtual Activism
http://www.virtualactivism.org


-----Original Message-----
From: karen banks [mailto:karenb@gn.apc.org] 
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 4:23 AM
To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] STATUS: CS Documents on WSIS site

dear all,

(note - all translations are from babelfish)

The following statements are now on the WSIS site
Les rapports suivants sont maintenant sur l'emplacement de WSIS
Las declaraciones siguientes ahora est?n en el sitio de WSIS
(http://www.itu.int/wsis/documents/listing-all.asp?lang=en?&c_event=pc2|
1&c_type=all|)

25 June 2004 - Observers (Civil Society): Context (english)
25 June 2004 - Observers (Civil society): Participation (english)
25 June 2004 - Observers (Civil Society): Development (english)

26 June 2004 - Observers (Civil society): Human rights (1) Belhassen 
(english, french)
26 June 2004 - Observers (Civil society): Human rights (2) N'Diaye
(french)
26 June 2004 - Observers (Civil Society): Internet Governance (english)

By monday, we will have the following documents in the following
languages 
which will be submitted to the WSIS secretariat who have agreed to
upload them:

Par lundi, nous aurons les documents suivants dans les langues suivantes

qui seront soumises au secr?tariat de WSIS qui ont accepte de les
t?l?charger:

Por lunes, tendremos los documentos siguientes en las idiomas siguientes

que ser?n sometidas a la secretar?a de WSIS que tiene acord? upload las:

June 25
1. context - english, arabic, french
2. development - english, arabic, french
3. Participation - english, arabic, french

June 26
1. Human rights (Belhassen) - english, arabic, french, spanish
2. Human rights (Awa) - french
3. Internet governance - english, arabic, french

we are particularly looking for help with spanish translation for most
of 
the above.

estamos buscando particularmente ayuda con la traducci?n espa?ola para
la 
mayor?a del antedicho.

nous recherchons en particulier l'aide avec la traduction espagnole pour

les la plupart de ce qui pr?c?de.

karen

_______________________________________________
Plenary mailing list
Plenary@wsis-cs.org
http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/plenary




From karenb at gn.apc.org  Sat Jul  3 09:33:30 2004
From: karenb at gn.apc.org (karen banks)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:51 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Human Rights Statement: Mme Awa N'Diaye
Message-ID: <6.1.1.1.0.20040703090702.01e4c7e8@pop.gn.apc.org>

Dear all,

Here is an electronic copy of the second human rights statement, as read by 
Mme Awa N'Diaye

Voici une copie ?lectronique du deuxi?me rapport de droits de l'homme, 
comme lu par Mme. Awa N'Diaye

Aqu? est? una copia electr?nica de la segunda declaraci?n de los derechos 
humanos, seg?n lo le?do por mme Awa N'Diaye
--------

For those of you who were not in Tunis, you are right to think that the two 
human rights statements are in fact identical - except for the last 
sentance - which was the subject of the contraversy in Tunis - in addition 
to the objections to Mme Souhayr Belhassen speaking in plenary.

Pour ceux de vous qui n'?taient pas ? Tunis, vous avez raison pour penser 
que les deux rapports de droits de l'homme sont en fait identiques - 
except? le dernier sentance - qui ?tait le sujet du contraversy ? Tunis - 
en plus des objections ? Mme. Souhayr Belhassen parlant en session pl?ni?re.

Para los de usted que no estaban en T?nez, usted tiene raz?n pensar que las 
dos declaraciones de los derechos humanos est?n en el hecho id?ntico - a 
excepci?n del sentance pasado - que era el tema del contraversy en T?nez - 
adem?s de las objeciones a mme Souhayr Belhassen que hablaba en la sesi?n 
plenaria.
-------

Belhassen:
Toutefois, nous souhaitons r?affirmer qu?il incombe aux deux pays h?tes du 
Sommet de se montrer exemplaires, notamment dans la r?alisation de la 
libert? d?expression, d?information et de communication, ainsi que de la 
libert? d?association et du droit ? la vie priv?e.

However, we wish to reaffirm that it is the duty of the two host countries 
of the Summit to show exemplarity, especially in the realization of freedom 
of expression, of information, of communication, as well as of freedom of 
association and the right to privacy.

No obstante, deseamos reafirmar que incumbe a los dos pa?ses hu?spedes de 
la Cumbre mostrarse ejemplar, en particular, en la realizaci?n de la 
libertad de expresi?n, informaci?n y comunicaci?n, as? como de la libertad 
de asociaci?n y del derecho a la vida privada.

N'Diaye:
Toutefois, nous souhaitons r?affirmer qu il incombe ? tous les pays du 
monde de se montrer exemplaire, notamment dans la r?alisation de la libert? 
d?expression, d?information et de communication, ainsi que de la libert? 
d?association et du droit ? la protection de la vie priv?.

However, we wish to reaffirm that it falls on all the countries of the 
world to be exemplary, especially in the realization of freedom of 
expression, of information, of communication, as well as of freedom of 
association and the right to privacy.

Sin embargo, deseamos reafirmar que cae en todos los pa?ses del mundo para 
ser ejemplar, especialmente en la realizaci?n de la libertad de la 
expresi?n, de la informaci?n, de la comunicaci?n, as? como de la libertad 
de la asociaci?n y la derecha a la aislamiento.
-------

Full statement, for the public record, is below:
Le plein rapport, parce que le disque public, est ci-dessous :
La declaraci?n completa, porque el expediente p?blico, est? abajo:
-------

karen
=====

Intervention de la Soci?t? Civile sur la question des droits de l?Homme
PrepCom I, Seconde phase du SMSI, S?ance pl?ni?re
Pr?sent?e par Madame Awa N?DIAYE,

En ce d?but de  la seconde phase du SMSI , les organisations de la soci?t? 
civile pr?sentes ? Hammamet  souhaitent exprimer leurs objectifs et leurs 
priorit?s de travail en vue du sommet de Tunis 2005.

A l?heure o? les fondations du droit international des droits de l?homme 
sont ?branl?es par les lois et mesures adopt?es, partout dans le monde, au 
nom d?une lutte contre le terrorisme, il ?tait important que la d?claration 
de principe adopt?e a Gen?ve en 2003 se r?f?re aux principes essentiels 
d?universalit? et d?indivisibilit? de tous les droits de l?homme, au droit 
au d?veloppement, et r?affirme en particulier le n?cessaire respect de 
l?int?gralit? de l?article 19 de la DUDH sur la libert? d?expression, 
d?information et de communication.
Cette seconde phase doit aller plus loin. Nous entendons en effet qu?elle 
pr?cise ces principes en affirmant ?galement le principe non-d?rogeable de 
non discrimination, la n?cessit?  du respect des standarts 
internationaux  relatifs aux droits des travailleurs, et la reconnaissance 
qu?une vraie  s?curit? ne peut ?tre atteinte que gr?ce ? des mesures 
enti?rement compatibles avec les droits de l?homme internationalement 
reconnus, particuli?rement le droit ? la vie priv?e.

En outre, nous ne pouvons accepter, que la d?claration de principes admette 
que l??tat de droit soit suppos? ? refl?ter la situation r?elle des pays ?, 
plut?t qu??tre en coh?rence avec les obligations l?gales des Etats 
d?coulant des trait?s internationaux relatifs aux droits de l?Homme qu?ils 
ont ratifi?s.

La phase de Tunis  va concentrer ses travaux sur les questions de 
gouvernance d?Internet et de financement de l?infrastructure. Nous y 
prendrons toute notre part en veillant ? ce que leurs r?sultats, loin de 
d?y d?roger, promeuvent la mise en ?uvre  effective de l?ensemble des 
droits de l?homme.

Sans mise en ?uvre effective, les principes resteront en effet lettre 
morte. Nous entendons que le SMSI permette que ces principes se traduisent 
par une soci?t?  de l?information et de la communication au service des 
droits de l?homme. A cette fin, nous souhaitons que le Sommet d?finisse des 
indicateurs pr?cis permettant d?appr?cier la r?alisation de cet objectif et 
mette en place un m?canisme international et ind?pendant pour leur 
?valuation sur le terrain, au niveau local, r?gional et international.

Enfin, nous sommes pleinement conscients de l?importance fondamentale de la 
tenue du SMSI ? Tunis, pour les peuples de l?ensemble des pays du Sud, et 
nous souhaitons donc sa r?ussite. Toutefois, nous souhaitons r?affirmer qu 
il incombe ? tous les pays du monde de se montrer exemplaire, notamment 
dans la r?alisation de la libert? d?expression, d?information et de 
communication, ainsi que de la libert? d?association et du droit ? la 
protection de la vie priv?.

Fait ? Hammamet, le  25 juin 2004


From karenb at gn.apc.org  Sat Jul  3 09:35:33 2004
From: karenb at gn.apc.org (karen banks)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:51 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] STATUS: CS Documents on WSIS site
In-Reply-To: <000201c460d7$60473110$5f1c723e@Marlyn>
References: <6.1.1.1.0.20040703090638.04461280@pop.gn.apc.org>
 <000201c460d7$60473110$5f1c723e@Marlyn>
Message-ID: <6.1.1.1.0.20040703093402.04459170@pop.gn.apc.org>

hi

>Karen, just a note: my translations are not BabelFish because Babelfish
>has no Arabic translation. Thanks

apologies maryln, i was referring to *my* translations - which are *all* 
from babelfish.

maryln de las apolog?as, refer?a * mi * a las traducciones - que son * 
todos * de babelfish.

maryln d'excuses, je me r?f?rais * mon * aux traductions - qui sont * tous 
* du babelfish.

karen



From mgurst at vcn.bc.ca  Sat Jul  3 10:52:31 2004
From: mgurst at vcn.bc.ca (Michael Gurstein)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:51 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] exploring the possibility of a   telecenter working group/multi-stakeholder caucus
In-Reply-To: <OF57BAD007.73B57A4F-ON85256EBD.0029ABDB-85256EBD.0029AD22@edc.org>
Message-ID: <002501c460e3$78400240$b28a3042@michael78xnoln>

Andy, Liss, Amali and all, apologies for coming into the conversation so late and I'm really sorry that I missed the discussion in Seattle and the opportunity of participating in the on-going discussion here.

This is, I think, a really good initiative and one that has been a long time coming... It should be noted that the Global Community Networking Partnership (GCNP) http://globalcn.tc.ca and http://www.globalcn.org has been pursuing somewhat similar aims but perhaps unfortunately outside of the framing context of the WSIS. 

Perhaps as a result the GCNP has rather lapsed into inactivity after sponsoring three very successful global congresses in Barcelona, Buenos Aires and Montreal with participation from the range of telecentres, telecentre networks and other bommunity based technology organizations and initiatives.

I personally would hope that the GCNP would, if and as it continues to be active, work collaboratively with this WSIS oriented grouping (there is I think a considerable overlap between the two in interested individuals and groups) since it seems clear that a considerable part of the discussion around the future of communty technology at least from the funders perspective will be undertaken within a WSIS framed context.

I should also mention the Community Informatics Research Network (CIRN) www.ciresearch.net which is a global network of  researchers--academics, practitioners with a research interest and policy folks which grew out of the GCNP.  The possible role that CIRN might play in the context of the WSIS (as for example in hosting an event on research in support of practice and policy in WSIS issues such as the Digital Divide, e-democracy/e-participation, community based e-health and so on) will be discussed at the upcoming CIRN conference in Prato, Italy at the end of September http://www.ciresearch.net/conference and it would be great if we could think about/discuss the possibility of some sort of collaborative activities focussed on the WSIS.

Anyway, best of luck with this and I'll look forward to being part of the e-list.

Best,

Andy et tous, 

Excuses pour h?riter la conversation tellement tard et I'm vraiment d?sol? que j'ai manqu? la discussion ? Seattle et l'occasion de participer ? la discussion en cours ici. C'est, je pensent, une initiative et vraiment bonnes qui ont ?t? long venir de temps... Il convient noter que l'association globale de gestion de r?seau de la Communaut? (GCNP) http://globalcn.tc.ca  et http://www.globalcn.org avait poursuivi les objectifs quelque peu semblables mais peut-?tre malheureusement dehors du contexte encadrant du WSIS. Peut-?tre en cons?quence le GCNP a plut?t manqu? dans l'inactivit? apr?s le commanditaire des trois congr?s globaux tr?s r?ussis ? Barcelone, Buenos Aires et Montr?al avec la participation de la gamme des telecentres, les r?seaux de telecentre et d'autres organismes et initiatives de technologie bas?s par bommunity. Je personnellement esp?rerais que le GCNP , si et comme il continue ? ?tre en activit?, le travail en collaboration avec ce WSIS a orient? grouper (il y a de moi pensent un chevauchement consid?rable entre les deux dans les individus et les groupes int?ress?s) puisqu'il semble clair qu'une partie consid?rable de la discussion autour du futur de la technologie communty au moins de la perspective de bailleurs de fonds sera entreprise dans un contexte encadr? par WSIS. Je devrais ?galement mentionner le r?seau de recherche en mati?re d'informatique de la Communaut? (CIRN) www.ciresearch.net qui est un r?seau global des chercheurs -- l'academics, les praticiens avec un int?r?t de recherches et les gens de politique qui se sont d?velopp?s hors du GCNP. Le r?le possible que CIRN pourrait jouer dans le contexte du WSIS (comme par exemple en accueillant un ?v?nement sur la recherche ? l'appui de la pratique et la politique dans des issues de WSIS telles que Digital divisez, e-democracy/e-participation, e-sant? bas?e par communaut? et ainsi de suite) sera discut? ? la conf?rence prochaine de CIRN dans Prato, Italie ? fin septembre http://www.ciresearch.net/conference et lui seraient grands si nous pourrions penser qu'about/discuss que la possibilit? d'une certaine sorte d'activit?s de collaboration s'est concentr? sur le WSIS. Quoi qu'il en soit, le meilleur de la chance avec le ce et du regard d'I'll en avant ? faire partie de l'e-liste. 

 
 Andy y todo, apolog?as por venir en la conversaci?n tan tarde e I'm realmente apesadumbrado que falt? la discusi?n en Seattle y la oportunidad de participar en la discusi?n en curso aqu?. Esto es, yo piensa, una iniciativa y realmente buena que ha sido el venir largo del tiempo... Debe ser observado que la sociedad global del establecimiento de una red de la comunidad (GCNP) http://globalcn.tc.ca y http://www.globalcn.org ha estado persiguiendo punter?as algo similares pero quiz?s desafortunadamente afuera del contexto que enmarcaba del WSIS. Quiz?s consecuentemente el GCNP ha caducado algo en inactividad despu?s de patrocinar a tres congresos globales muy acertados en Barcelona, Buenos Aires y Montreal con la participaci?n de la gama de telecentres, las redes del telecentre y otras organizaciones e iniciativas basadas bommunity de la tecnolog?a. Esperar?a personalmente que el GCNP , si y a medida que contin?a siendo activo, el trabajo con este WSIS orient? de colaboraci?n agrupar (hay yo piensa un traslapo considerable entre los dos en individuos y grupos interesados) puesto que se parece claro que una parte considerable de la discusi?n alrededor del futuro de la tecnolog?a communty por lo menos de la perspectiva de los proveedores de fondos ser? emprendida dentro de un contexto enmarcado WSIS. Debo tambi?n mencionar la red de la investigaci?n de la inform?tica de la comunidad (CIRN) www.ciresearch.net que es una red global de los investigadores -- acad?mico, los m?dicos con un inter?s de la investigaci?n y la gente de la pol?tica que crecieron fuera del GCNP. El papel posible que CIRN pudo desempe?ar en el contexto del WSIS (como por ejemplo en el recibimiento de un acontecimiento en la investigaci?n en la ayuda de la pr?ctica y la pol?tica en ediciones de WSIS tales como la Digital div?dase, e-democracy/e-participation, e-salud basada comunidad etc?tera) ser? discutido en la conferencia pr?xima de CIRN en Prato, Italia a finales de septiembre http://www.ciresearch.net/conference y ?l ser?an grandes si podr?amos pensar que about/discuss que la posibilidad de una cierta clase de actividades de colaboraci?n se centr? en el WSIS. De todas formas, el mejor de suerte con este y de mirada de I'll adelante a ser parte de la e-lista.

Mike Gurstein

Michael Gurstein, Ph.D.
School of Management
New Jersey Institute of Technology
Newark, NJ
 
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From: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org [mailto:plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org] On Behalf Of Andy Carvin
Sent: 24 ???? 2004 ?. 11:35
To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
Subject: Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] exploring the possibility of a telecenter working group/multi-stakeholder caucus

I'm very glad to hear so many people are interested in the idea. This morning at the CS plenary at 9am, I am going to suggest we hold a meeting tomorrow afternoon for people here in Hammamet who have expressed interest in starting up this work. I mainly want to identify people, CS organizations, donors, private sector entities, etc, that are stakeholders in this issue who happen to be here in Hammamet, so we can talk to them in person. Then we can organizer a broader group online, and identify some specific work goals.

Je suis tr?s heureux d'entendre tant de personnes sont int?ress?s par l'id?e. Ce matin ? la session pl?ni?re de CS ? 9am, je vais sugg?rer que nous tenions une r?union demain apr?s-midi pour les personnes ici dans Hammamet qui ont montr? un int?r?t en commen?ant vers le haut de ce travail. Je veux principalement identifier les personnes, les organismes de CS, les donateurs, les entit?s de secteur priv?, etc.., qui sont des d?positaires dans cette issue qui s'av?rent justement ?tre ici dans Hammamet, ainsi nous pouvons leur parler chez la personne. Puis nous organisateur de bidon par plus large groupe en ligne, et identifions quelques buts sp?cifiques de travail.

Soy muy alegres o?r a tan mucha gente est?n interesados en la idea. Esta ma?ana en la sesi?n plenaria del CS en los 9am, voy a sugerir que celebramos una reuni?n ma?ana por la tarde para la gente aqu? en Hammamet que ha expresado inter?s en comenzar encima de este trabajo. Deseo principalmente identificar la gente, las organizaciones del CS, los donantes, las entidades del sector privado, los etc, que son los tenedores de apuestas en esta edici?n que suceden estar aqu? en Hammamet, as? que podemos hablarellos con en persona. Entonces organizador de la lata al grupo m?s amplio en l?nea, e identificamos algunas metas espec?ficas del trabajo.

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Thanks.
Let's go for it then. Does anyone have an objection to our setting up such a working group? Public access points? Perhaps that way we can also include the wi fi groups, who are doing some interesting work which does not chime so well with the idea of "centre".

Merci. Devons-nous commencer ceci alors ? Est-ce que personne qui a une objection ? notre ?tablissement un tel groupe de travail ? Points d'acc?s publics ? Peut-?tre sous ce nom nous pouvons ?galement inclure les groupes du wi fi, qui effectuent un certain travail int?ressant qui ne sonne pas tellement bien avec l'id?e du "centre" ;.

Liss J

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>I agree completely. When I refer to CTCs and telecenters, I would
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>include libraries, for example, and think that cyber cafes should be
>included. I used the term telecenter because I hoped it would be the 
>most inclusive, but I'm certainly open to other terms, such as public 
>access centers or community Internet access. Perhaps it is a matter of 
>coming up with a simple mission statement for this group, if it is 
>formed, that acknowledges we're interested in a broad range of 
>community access points to the Internet.
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>Je conviens compl?tement. Quand je me r?f?re ? CTCs et ? telecenters,
>j'inclurais certainement des biblioth?ques, par exemple, et pense que 
>les caf?s de cyber devraient ?tre inclus. J'ai employ? le telecenter de 
>limite parce que j'ai esp?r? qu'il serait le plus inclus, mais je suis 
>ouvert d'autres limites, telles que les centres d'acc?s ou l'acc?s 
>publics d'Internet de la communaut?. Peut-?tre c'est une question de 
>proposer un rapport simple de mission pour ce groupe, s'il est form?, 
>qui nous reconna?t sont int?ress? par une large gamme des points 
>d'acc?s de la communaut? ? l'Internet.
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>Convengo totalmente. Cuando refiero a CTCs y a telecenters, incluir?a
>ciertamente bibliotecas, por ejemplo, y pienso que los caf?s del cyber 
>deben ser incluidos. Utilic? el telecenter del t?rmino porque esperaba 
>que fuera el m?s inclusivo, pero estoy abierto a otros t?rminos, tales 
>como centros del acceso o acceso p?blicos del Internet de la comunidad. 
>Quiz?s es una cuesti?n de venir para arriba con una declaraci?n simple 
>de la misi?n para este grupo, si se forma, que nos reconoce est? 
>interesado en una amplia gama de los puntos de acceso de la comunidad 
>al Internet.
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>Andy Carvin
>Program Director
>EDC Center for Media & Community
>acarvin @ edc . org
>http://www.digitaldividenetwork.org
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>Our take is that a more inclusive approach would get us all further
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>I think to limit this working group to telecentres (hugely important as
>they are) would be to narrow the missing working group too far. I agree 
>there is a working group missing. In a Canadian wsis-smsi workshop and 
>seminar that we held last winter, we were troubled by the absence of 
>libraries (where many "ctcs" in fact are located in Canada, especially 
>in smaller communities) ,  community learning networks, community 
>access points (a general term for all sorts of spaces and active 
>service providers), and other groups which go by different names in 
>different technical and cultural situations, but which play a big role 
>in bridging digital divides and providing meaningful access (not just 
>terminals.) In some cases, our group thought cybercafes belong in this 
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>be added should be "community access support points"  or some such, and 
>that CTCs be one such model.
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>The eCommons/agora would like to join this group and help develop its
>contributions. We also have extensive contacts with the library 
>community, and know of many who would also contribute to this task.
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>Je pense pour limiter ce groupe de travail aux telecentres ( tout
>importants qu'ils sont) devrais r?tr?cir le groupe de travail absent 
>trop loin. Je conviens qu'il y a des disparus d'un groupe de travail. 
>Dans un atelier et une conf?rence canadiens de wsis-smsi que nous avons 
>tenu l'hiver pass?, nous avons ?t? pr?occup?s par l'absence des 
>biblioth?ques (o? beaucoup des "ctcs" sont situ?s au Canada, notamment 
>aux des petits villes ), des r?seaux d'apprentissage de la communaut?, 
>des points d'acc?s de la communaut? (une limite g?n?rale pour toutes 
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>num?rique se divise et en fournissant l'acc?s signicatif (les 
>ordinateurs non simplement.) Dans certains cas, de pens?e de groupe,  
>des cyber cafe appartiennent dans ce groupe de travail.
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>Ainsi je conviens que quelque chose est absente, mais propose que le
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>de travail ? ajouter devrait ?tre points" de soutien d'acc?s
>communitaire"
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>voudrait joindre ce groupe et aider ? d?velopper ses contributions. Nous
>avons ?galement les relations avec la communaut? de biblioth?que, et les
>savons de beaucoup qui contribueraient ?galement ? cette t?che.
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>Pardonnez-moi pour mon francais execrable, mais notre redacteur
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>  Hi everyone... Thanks to everyone who's sent me comments so far; up
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>they've been quite positive. I'd like to request that any comments
>about the idea get sent to the plenary list rather than just to me 
>privately; that way this conversation is as open as possible. If anyone 
>else would like to comment, please do so by this coming Monday, so we 
>can know what the consensus is in time for the pre-prepcom meeting. 
>thanks again...
-andy
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>Gr?ce ? chacun who's m'a envoy? des commentaires jusqu'ici ; jusqu'ici
>they've ?t? tout ? fait positif. I'd aiment demander que tous les 
>commentaires au sujet de l'id?e m'obtiennent envoy?s ? la liste 
>pl?ni?re plut?t que juste en priv? ; de cette fa?on cette conversation 
>est aussi ouverte comme possible. Si n'importe qui autrement voudrait 
>commenter, satisfaire faites ainsi par ce prochain lundi, ainsi nous 
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>qu'est le consensus pour les mercis de r?union de pre-prepcom encore...
>andy
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>Los gracias a cada uno who's me enviaron comentarios hasta ahora; hasta
>ahora they've sido absolutamente positivo. I'd tienen gusto de 
>solicitar que cualquier comentario sobre la idea me consigue enviado a 
>la lista plenaria m?s bien que apenas privado; esa manera esta 
>conversaci?n est?
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>abierta como sea posible. Si cualquier persona quisiera comentar,
>satisfacer haga tan por este lunes que viene, as? que podemos saber 
>cu?les es el consenso en la hora para las gracias de la reuni?n del 
>pre-prepcom otra vez... - andy
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>Andy Carvin
>Program Director
>EDC Center for Media & Community
>acarvin @ edc . org
>http://www.digitaldividenetwork.org
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>       To:   plenary@wsis-cs.org
>       cc:
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>       Subject:    [WSIS CS-Plenary] exploring the possibility of a
>telecenter working group/multi-stakeholder caucus
>Andy Carvin <ACarvin@edc.org
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>traduction fran?aise est ci-dessous / traducci?n espa?ola est? abajo
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>Hi everyone.... I have just returned from the annual CTCNet conference
>in Seattle, Washington. CTCNet is the largest telecenter conference in 
>the USA and has become one of the premiere North American digital  
>divide conferences. During the event I hosted a forum with Amali 
>DeSilva, co-coordinator of the North America regional caucus, to 
>discuss WSIS with conference attendees. We had a very engaging 
>discussion, with a lot of interest in getting North American telecenter 
>activists more involved in the WSIS process.
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>During this forum and other conversations about WSIS, many telecenter
>activists felt that we as a community could do more to get our  ideas 
>integrated into the WSIS process. Because telecenters play a broad role 
>in their communities, their work includes a variety of themes, 
>including education, content, access, the disabled, gender, etc. This 
>means the work of telecenters is distributed amongst many of our 
>caucuses and working groups, making it more difficult to generate a 
>unified vision of the role of telecenters in the information society.
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>Therefore, I would like to ask the plenary group how members would feel
>about the creation of a telecenter working group. My idea would be to 
>have an interdisciplinary working group that would build on 
>telecenter-related ideas created by the existing working groups, then 
>try to "fill in the blanks" with participating telecenter 
>representatives. In terms of protocol, I am not sure if this would mean 
>the creation of a working group or a multi-stakeholder caucus, given 
>the interdisciplinary nature  of telecenter activities.
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>I have discussed the idea with CS representatives who participated in
>the Berlin meeting this Sunday, and there was interest in the idea. But 
>wanted to suggest the idea to the entire plenary group so others would 
>have the opportunity to comment. All thoughts are most welcome.
>
>Bonjour chacun.... Je suis juste retourn? de la conf?rence annuelle de
>CTCNet ? Seattle, Washington. CTCNet est la plus grande conf?rence de 
>telecenter aux Etats-Unis et a devenu de la premi?re num?rique que 
>nord-am?ricain divisent des conf?rences. Pendant l'?v?nement j'ai 
>accueilli un forum avec Amali DeSilva, Co-coordonnateur du comit? 
>r?gional de l'Am?rique du Nord, pour discuter WSIS avec des 
>participants de conf?rence. Nous avons eu une discussion s'engageante 
>tr?s, avec beaucoup d'int?r?t en obtenant les activistes 
>nord-am?ricains de telecenter davantage impliqu?s dans le processus de 
>WSIS. Pendant ce forum et d'autres conversations au sujet de WSIS, 
>beaucoup d'activistes de telecenter ont estim? que nous car une 
>communaut? pourrait faire plus pour avoir nos id?es int?gr?es dans le 
>processus de WSIS. Puisque les telecenters jouent un large r?le dans 
>leurs communaut?s, leur travail inclut une vari?t? de th?mes, y compris 
>l'?ducation, le contenu, l'acc?s, l'handicap?, le genre, etc... Ceci 
>signifie que le travail des telecenters est distribu? parmi plusieurs 
>de nos comit?s et groupes de travail, le rendant plus difficile de 
>produire d'une vision unifi?e du r?le des telecenters dans la soci?t? 
>de l'information. Par cons?quent, je voudrais demander au groupe 
>pl?nier ce que les membres penseraient de la cr?ation d'un groupe de 
>travail de telecenter. Mon id?e serait d'avoir un groupe de travail 
>interdisciplinaire qui construirait sur des id?es telecenter-connexes 
>cr??es par les groupes de travail existants, puis essaye au "fill dans 
>le blanks" ; avec les repr?sentants participants de telecenter. En 
>termes de protocole, je ne suis pas s?r si ceci signifierait la 
>cr?ation d'un groupe de travail ou d'un comit? de multi-d?positaire, 
>donn? la nature interdisciplinaire des activit?s de telecenter. J'ai 
>discut? l'id?e avec les repr?sentants de CS qui  ont particip? ? Berlin 
>rencontrant ce dimanche, et il y avait int?r?t pour l'id?e. Mais j'ai 
>voulu sugg?rer l'id?e au groupe pl?nier entier ainsi d'autres auraient 
>l'occasion de commenter. Toutes les pens?es sont la plupart de 
>bienvenue.
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>Acabo de volver de la conferencia anual de CTCNet en Seattle,
>Washington. CTCNet es la conferencia m?s grande del telecenter de los 
>E.E.U.U. y tiene convertido de la premier que digital norteamericano 
>divide conferencias. Durante el acontecimiento recib? un foro con Amali 
>DeSilva, co-coordinador del caucus regional de Norteam?rica, para 
>discutir WSIS con los asistentes de la conferencia. Ten?amos una 
>discusi?n muy de acoplamiento, con muchos de inter?s en conseguir 
>activistas norteamericanos del telecenter implicados m?s en el proceso 
>de WSIS. Durante este foro y otras conversaciones sobre WSIS, muchos 
>activistas del telecenter se sent?an que nosotros pues una comunidad 
>podr?a hacer m?s para conseguir nuestras ideas integradas en el proceso 
>de WSIS. Porque los telecenters desempe?an un amplio papel en sus 
>comunidades, su trabajo incluye una variedad de temas, incluyendo la 
>educaci?n, el contenido, el acceso, el lisiado, el g?nero, el etc. Esto 
>significa que el trabajo de telecenters est? distribuido entre muchos 
>de nuestros caucuses y grupos de funcionamiento, haci?ndolo m?s dif?cil 
>de generar una visi?n unificada del papel de telecenters en la sociedad 
>de informaci?n. Por lo tanto, quisiera preguntar al grupo plenario c?mo 
>los miembros se sentir?an sobre la creaci?n de un grupo de 
>funcionamiento del telecenter. Mi idea ser?a tener un grupo de 
>funcionamiento interdisciplinario que construir?a en las ideas 
>telecenter-relacionadas creadas por los grupos de funcionamiento 
>existentes, despu?s intenta al "fill en el blanks" con los 
>representantes del telecenter que participan. En t?rminos del 
>protocolo, no soy seguro si ?ste significar?a la creaci?n de un grupo 
>de funcionamiento o de un caucus del multi-tenedor de apuestas, dado la 
>naturaleza interdisciplinaria de las actividades del telecenter. He 
>discutido la idea con los representantes del CS que participaron en la 
>Berl?n que resolv?a este domingo, y hab?a inter?s en la idea. Pero 
>dese? sugerir la idea al grupo plenario entero as? que otros tendr?an 
>la oportunidad de comentar. Todos los pensamientos son la mayor?a de la 
>recepci?n.
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>Program Director
>EDC Center for Media & Community
>acarvin @ edc . org
>http://www.digitaldividenetwork.org
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From dcogburn at umich.edu  Sat Jul  3 12:38:49 2004
From: dcogburn at umich.edu (dcogburn@umich.edu)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:51 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] exploring the possibility of a   telecenter
 working group/multi-stakeholder caucus
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Dear Colleagues,

Just a quick note to support Michael's recent post on the telecenter 
working group discussion.  I would encourage Andy and others working on 
this initiative to try to create as much synergy as possible with these 
existing initiatives.  I was particularly interested in seeing this 
initiative coordinate with the CIRN initiatives that Michael mentioned.  I 
would certainly be willing to be involved in and lend support to this 
initiative.

Cheers,
Derrick

Chers Coll?gues, Juste une note rapide pour soutenir le poteau r?cent de 
Michael's sur la discussion de groupe de travail de telecenter. 
J'encouragerais Andy et d'autres travaillant sur cette initiative pour 
essayer de cr?er autant synergie comme possible avec ces initiatives 
existantes. J'?tais particuli?rement int?ress? ? voir cette coordonn?e 
d'initiative avec les initiatives de CIRN que Michael a mentionn?es. Je 
certainement serais dispos? ? ?tre impliqu? dedans et pr?terais l'appui ? 
cette initiative. ? la votre, Tour


Colegas Queridos, Apenas una nota r?pida para apoyar el poste reciente de 
Michael's en la discusi?n del grupo de funcionamiento del telecenter. 
Animar?a Andy y otros que trabajan en esta iniciativa para intentar crear 
tanta sinergia como sea posible con estas iniciativas existentes. Estaba 
particularmente interesado en ver este coordenada de la iniciativa con las 
iniciativas de CIRN que Michael mencion?. Estar?a dispuesto a estar 
implicado adentro y prestar?a ciertamente la ayuda a esta iniciativa.

--On Saturday, July 3, 2004 2:52 AM -0700 Michael Gurstein 
<mgurst@vcn.bc.ca> wrote:

>
> Andy, Liss, Amali and all, apologies for coming into the conversation so
> late and I'm really sorry that I missed the discussion in Seattle and the
> opportunity of participating in the on-going discussion here.
>
> This is, I think, a really good initiative and one that has been a long
> time coming... It should be noted that the Global Community Networking
> Partnership (GCNP) http://globalcn.tc.ca and http://www.globalcn.org has
> been pursuing somewhat similar aims but perhaps unfortunately outside of
> the framing context of the WSIS.
>
> Perhaps as a result the GCNP has rather lapsed into inactivity after
> sponsoring three very successful global congresses in Barcelona, Buenos
> Aires and Montreal with participation from the range of telecentres,
> telecentre networks and other bommunity based technology organizations
> and initiatives.
>
> I personally would hope that the GCNP would, if and as it continues to be
> active, work collaboratively with this WSIS oriented grouping (there is I
> think a considerable overlap between the two in interested individuals
> and groups) since it seems clear that a considerable part of the
> discussion around the future of communty technology at least from the
> funders perspective will be undertaken within a WSIS framed context.
>
> I should also mention the Community Informatics Research Network (CIRN)
> www.ciresearch.net which is a global network of  researchers--academics,
> practitioners with a research interest and policy folks which grew out of
> the GCNP.  The possible role that CIRN might play in the context of the
> WSIS (as for example in hosting an event on research in support of
> practice and policy in WSIS issues such as the Digital Divide,
> e-democracy/e-participation, community based e-health and so on) will be
> discussed at the upcoming CIRN conference in Prato, Italy at the end of
> September http://www.ciresearch.net/conference and it would be great if
> we could think about/discuss the possibility of some sort of
> collaborative activities focussed on the WSIS.
>
> Anyway, best of luck with this and I'll look forward to being part of the
> e-list.
>
> Best,
>
> Andy et tous,
>
> Excuses pour h?riter la conversation tellement tard et I'm vraiment
> d?sol? que j'ai manqu? la discussion ? Seattle et l'occasion de
> participer ? la discussion en cours ici. C'est, je pensent, une
> initiative et vraiment bonnes qui ont ?t? long venir de temps... Il
> convient noter que l'association globale de gestion de r?seau de la
> Communaut? (GCNP) http://globalcn.tc.ca  et http://www.globalcn.org avait
> poursuivi les objectifs quelque peu semblables mais peut-?tre
> malheureusement dehors du contexte encadrant du WSIS. Peut-?tre en
> cons?quence le GCNP a plut?t manqu? dans l'inactivit? apr?s le
> commanditaire des trois congr?s globaux tr?s r?ussis ? Barcelone, Buenos
> Aires et Montr?al avec la participation de la gamme des telecentres, les
> r?seaux de telecentre et d'autres organismes et initiatives de
> technologie bas?s par bommunity. Je personnellement esp?rerais que le
> GCNP , si et comme il continue ? ?tre en activit?, le travail en
> collaboration avec ce WSIS a orient? grouper (il y a de moi pensent un
> chevauchement consid?rable entre les deux dans les individus et les
> groupes int?ress?s) puisqu'il semble clair qu'une partie consid?rable de
> la discussion autour du futur de la technologie communty au moins de la
> perspective de bailleurs de fonds sera entreprise dans un contexte
> encadr? par WSIS. Je devrais ?galement mentionner le r?seau de recherche
> en mati?re d'informatique de la Communaut? (CIRN) www.ciresearch.net qui
> est un r?seau global des chercheurs -- l'academics, les praticiens avec
> un int?r?t de recherches et les gens de politique qui se sont d?velopp?s
> hors du GCNP. Le r?le possible que CIRN pourrait jouer dans le contexte
> du WSIS (comme par exemple en accueillant un ?v?nement sur la recherche ?
> l'appui de la pratique et la politique dans des issues de WSIS telles que
> Digital divisez, e-democracy/e-participation, e-sant? bas?e par
> communaut? et ainsi de suite) sera discut? ? la conf?rence prochaine de
> CIRN dans Prato, Italie ? fin septembre
> http://www.ciresearch.net/conference et lui seraient grands si nous
> pourrions penser qu'about/discuss que la possibilit? d'une certaine sorte
> d'activit?s de collaboration s'est concentr? sur le WSIS. Quoi qu'il en
> soit, le meilleur de la chance avec le ce et du regard d'I'll en avant ?
> faire partie de l'e-liste.
>
>
>  Andy y todo, apolog?as por venir en la conversaci?n tan tarde e I'm
> realmente apesadumbrado que falt? la discusi?n en Seattle y la
> oportunidad de participar en la discusi?n en curso aqu?. Esto es, yo
> piensa, una iniciativa y realmente buena que ha sido el venir largo del
> tiempo... Debe ser observado que la sociedad global del establecimiento
> de una red de la comunidad (GCNP) http://globalcn.tc.ca y
> http://www.globalcn.org ha estado persiguiendo punter?as algo similares
> pero quiz?s desafortunadamente afuera del contexto que enmarcaba del
> WSIS. Quiz?s consecuentemente el GCNP ha caducado algo en inactividad
> despu?s de patrocinar a tres congresos globales muy acertados en
> Barcelona, Buenos Aires y Montreal con la participaci?n de la gama de
> telecentres, las redes del telecentre y otras organizaciones e
> iniciativas basadas bommunity de la tecnolog?a. Esperar?a personalmente
> que el GCNP , si y a medida que contin?a siendo activo, el trabajo con
> este WSIS orient? de colaboraci?n agrupar (hay yo piensa un traslapo
> considerable entre los dos en individuos y grupos interesados) puesto que
> se parece claro que una parte considerable de la discusi?n alrededor del
> futuro de la tecnolog?a communty por lo menos de la perspectiva de los
> proveedores de fondos ser? emprendida dentro de un contexto enmarcado
> WSIS. Debo tambi?n mencionar la red de la investigaci?n de la inform?tica
> de la comunidad (CIRN) www.ciresearch.net que es una red global de los
> investigadores -- acad?mico, los m?dicos con un inter?s de la
> investigaci?n y la gente de la pol?tica que crecieron fuera del GCNP. El
> papel posible que CIRN pudo desempe?ar en el contexto del WSIS (como por
> ejemplo en el recibimiento de un acontecimiento en la investigaci?n en la
> ayuda de la pr?ctica y la pol?tica en ediciones de WSIS tales como la
> Digital div?dase, e-democracy/e-participation, e-salud basada comunidad
> etc?tera) ser? discutido en la conferencia pr?xima de CIRN en Prato,
> Italia a finales de septiembre http://www.ciresearch.net/conference y ?l
> ser?an grandes si podr?amos pensar que about/discuss que la posibilidad
> de una cierta clase de actividades de colaboraci?n se centr? en el WSIS.
> De todas formas, el mejor de suerte con este y de mirada de I'll adelante
> a ser parte de la e-lista.
>
> Mike Gurstein
>
> Michael Gurstein, Ph.D.
> School of Management
> New Jersey Institute of Technology
> Newark, NJ
>


From beatriz at maxmedia.com.ar  Sat Jul  3 13:28:13 2004
From: beatriz at maxmedia.com.ar (Beatriz Busaniche)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:51 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Chinese equipment for WSIS/Tunisia
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El vie, 02-07-2004 a las 17:55, Robert Guerra escribi?:

> 
> Draw your own conclustions..

Robert, a qu? te refieres concretamente con esto?
Robert, what do you really mean with this?

Regards / saludos


 
> 
> http://www.3gnewsroom.com/3g_news/jul_04/news_4681.shtml
> Huawei to provide 3G trial for Tunisia WSIS Conference
> 
> July 2, 2004
> 
> On June 22, 2004, the Ministry of Communications Technologies and 
> Transportation of Tunisia decided to choose Huawei UMTS equipment to 
> provide 3G trial services in Tunisia. The trial will last for around 
> one year's time.
> 
>   As a matter of fact, the second phase of the World Summit on the 
> Information Society will be held in Tunisia in November 2005. The 
> representatives of governments, international organizations, civil 
> society and the private sector will come to Tunisia to discuss how 
> the world can eliminate the digital divide in content and physical 
> infrastructure. It is for this important summit that Tunisia 
> government selects Huawei 3G equipment to serve WSIS after strict 
> certification. The two cites that will hold the summit, Tunis and 
> Hammamet, will be covered by Huawei 3G system.
> 
> The MoU is expected to cover the entire end-to-end UMTS solution 
> needed for the 3G launch, including UMTS wireless access network, 
> core network, 3G mobile intelligent network, 3G mobile data service 
> platform and even 3G handsets. For the UMTS system, Huawei will 
> provide all the equipment based on 3GPP R4 protocol. The core network 
> is backward compatible with 3GPP R99 and GSM. And Huawei will provide 
> diversified UMTS services to let people experience the splendid 3G 
> world, which includes MMS, Video Phone, Video Conference, Streaming, 
> Pocket TV, Push To Talk, Internet Surfing and so on.
> 
> Huawei Senior VP Mr. Ding Shaohua said, "Through 5 years' effort, 
> Huawei has become a long-term and strategic partner with Tunisia 
> Telecom."
> 
> Till the end of 2003, Huawei had successfully deployed commercial 
> UMTS network in UAE and Hong Kong. Till now Huawei has finished the 
> whole Etisalat UMTS project. In Hong Kong, the SUNDAY project is also 
> going smoothly.
> 
> Headquarters
> Addr: Addr: HUAWEI TECHNOLOGIES CO.LTD. BANXUEGANG INDUSTRIAL PARK, 
> BUJI LONGGANG, SHENZHEN 518129, P.R.C
> Tel: +86-755-28780808
>   Fax: +86-755-28780808
> Zip code: 518129
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Plenary@wsis-cs.org
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From rguerra at lists.privaterra.org  Sat Jul  3 15:10:43 2004
From: rguerra at lists.privaterra.org (Robert Guerra)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:51 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Chinese equipment for WSIS/Tunisia
In-Reply-To: <1088857692.1931.4.camel@linux.local>
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At 9:28 AM -0300 7/3/04, Beatriz Busaniche wrote:
>El vie, 02-07-2004 a las 17:55, Robert Guerra escribi?:
>
>>
>>  Draw your own conclustions..
>
>  Robert, a qu? te refieres concretamente con esto?
>  Robert, what do you really mean with this?

Beatriz:

I don't understand why you can't make the link between Chinese 
telecommunication equipment providers , WSIS @ Tunis and censorship. 
Perhaps you need more info..


## English

hint: Technology which helps the Chinese authorities censor the 
Internet, might also be useful to other countries...which, perhaps - 
could mean that the technology which will be "showcased" at the 
summit will in fact be used as a censorship and surveillance 
infrastructure for the summit attendees as well as the Tunisians (who 
no doubt will keep the technology)

Below are a few links and references in case you want to learn more 
about internet censorship in China...Do remember what is used in 
China, can and IS being used elsewhere....

## French

conseil:  La technologie qui aide les autorit?s chinoises censurent 
l'Internet, la force soit ?galement utile ? d'autres pays... qui, 
peut-?tre - pourraient signifier que la technologie qui "sera 
pr?sent?e" au sommet sera en fait employ? comme infrastructure de 
censure et de surveillance pour les participants de sommet aussi bien 
que les Tunisiens (qui aucun doute ne maintiendra la technologie)

Au-dessous de sont quelques liens et des r?f?rences au cas o? vous 
voudriez apprendre que plus au sujet de la censure d'Internet en 
Chine... rappelez-vous ce qui est employ? en Chine, bidon et est 
employ?es ailleurs....

## Spanish

Pista:  La tecnolog?a que ayuda las autoridades chinas censura el 
Internet, la fuerza tambi?n sea ?til a otros pa?ses... que, quiz?s - 
podr?an significar que la tecnolog?a que "ser? presentada" en la 
voluntad de la cumbre en hecho util?cese como infraestructura para 
los asistentes de la cumbre as? como los tunecinos (qui?n de la 
censura y vigilanciala ninguna duda mantendr? la tecnolog?a)

Debajo est?n algunos acoplamientos y las referencias en caso de que 
usted desee aprender que m?s sobre censura del Internet en China... 
recuerde qu? se utiliza en China, lata y se est?n utilizando a otra 
parte....

#### References

China's Golden Shield:
Corporations and the Development of Surveillance Technology in the 
People's Republic of China
http://www.ichrdd.ca/english/commdoc/publications/globalization/goldenMenu.html

Transparency/accountability and Internet filtering
http://ice.citizenlab.org/archives/000025.html


China's Digital Future - Advancing the Understanding of China's 
Information Revolution
http://journalism.berkeley.edu/conf/chinadf/
A two-day conference on the impact of information and communications 
technologies on Chinese society sponsored by the Annenberg School for 
Communication at the University of Southern California and the 
Berkeley China Internet Project and New Media Program at the UC 
Berkeley Graduate School of Journalism


China's Willing Censors
By Tom Malinowski
http://www.hrw.org/editorials/2001/china0420.htm

Internet censorship in China: Meaning (information, definition, explanation)
http://explanation-guide.info/meaning/Internet-censorship-in-China.html


Freedom of Expression and the Internet in China
A Human Rights Watch Backgrounder
Human Rights Watch
http://www.hrw.org/backgrounder/asia/china-bck-0701.htm
http://www.hrw.org/backgrounder/asia/china-bck-0701.pdf

Companies defend against Chinese censorship charge
By Laura Rohde
03-12-2002
http://www.idg.com.sg/idgwww.nsf/UNID/158B25250359A7E348256C840007CFD1?OpenDocument

"Living dangerously on the Net"
Censorship and surveillance of Internet forums
Reporters Without Borders , 12 May 2003
http://www.rsf.org/print.php3?id_article=6793


General Resources -

Internet Censorship Explorer
http://ice.citizenlab.org/

Multiproxy - http://ice.citizenlab.org/projects/multiproxy/
Multiproxy is a multi-threaded program that can check text files 
containing lists of proxies or can scan IP ranges for publicly 
accessibel proxies. It also tries to determine the level of anonymity 
for any open proxies.

BBC - Tunisia - Country Profile
(english) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/country_profiles/791969.stm


From ladymurrugarra at yahoo.es  Sat Jul  3 16:39:16 2004
From: ladymurrugarra at yahoo.es (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lady=20Murrugarra?=)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:52 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] e-boletín n°2 género y tics Perú Lima, Junio del 2004
Message-ID: <20040703153916.42619.qmail@web11807.mail.yahoo.com>


Bolet?n G?nero y Tics Per?
e-bolet?n n?2 g?nero y tics Per? Lima, Junio del 2004

http://200.60.91.133/comunidades/genero_tics/html/noticias.html

Contenidos: 
1. Algunas palabras 
2. Actividades del Grupo 
3. Art?culos / Notas 
4. Eventos, Cursos y Noticias 


1. Algunas palabras



....................... Les brindamos nuestro Bolet?n No 2, como propuesta que saldr? cada dos meses. 
Como grupo, estamos en permanente labor tanto en nuestro fortalecimiento para la consecuci?n de nuestros objetivos, como en otros aspectos del Plan establecido. Estamos trabajando en las mejoras de dise?o y contenido de nuestra p?gina, as? como en un formato m?s amigable del Bolet?n. 

Pronto les brindaremos estas novedades. 


Toda colaboraci?n al grupo o a este bolet?n ser? bien venida. 


Com?niquense con nosotros a trav?s de nuestra p?gina web: 
http://www.concytec.gob.pe/generotics 

o de nuestra lista de discusi?n:
http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/generotecnologia/ 


email: generotics@speedy.com.pe  


Saludos 

Lady Murrugarra

Coordinadora Grupo Genero y TICs


		
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From: echaparro at uolsinectis.com.ar (Enrique A. Chaparro)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:52 2007
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One more (brand new) reference to add to Robert's list:

QUOTE
China to Target Mobile Phone Messaging

Fri Jul 2, 4:53 PM ET

By ELAINE KURTENBACH, AP Business Writer

SHANGHAI,  China -  Chinese authorities  plan to  use new  technology to
improve surveillance of mobile phone  messages amid efforts to intensify
policing of private communications, reports said Friday.

The official Xinhua News Agency said  the campaign was aimed at cleaning
up  "pornographic,  obscene and  fraudulent"  phone  messages that  have
"infiltrated short messaging content."

According  to  the  Paris-based  group Reporters  Without  Borders,  the
campaign also aims to widen surveillance of political dissent.

Beijing already  screens e-mail,  censors Internet chatrooms  and blocks
access  to foreign  Web  sites considered  subversive. But mobile  phone
messaging  --known  as  short-message  service,  or  SMS--  is  a  newer
technology, and the government has  struggled to develop ways to control
it.

Reporters  Without Borders  issued a  statement protesting  news that  a
Chinese company, Venus Info Tech Ltd., was authorized by Beijing to sell
a "realtime surveillance system" for SMS messages.
UNQUOTE

You can read the full text at:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=516&u=/ap/20040702/ap_on_re_as/china_mobile_phone_surveillance_3

Saludos desde el Lejano Sur,

Enrique


-- 
``Izena duen guzia omen da.''
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From beatriz at maxmedia.com.ar  Sat Jul  3 20:33:57 2004
From: beatriz at maxmedia.com.ar (Beatriz Busaniche)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:52 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Chinese equipment for WSIS/Tunisia
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El s?b, 03-07-2004 a las 11:10, Robert Guerra escribi?:


> I don't understand why you can't make the link between Chinese 
> telecommunication equipment providers , WSIS @ Tunis and censorship. 
> Perhaps you need more info..

Robert, thank you very much  for the info.  But i was thinking about
something else, not exactly that point, but also to include USA
infraestructure and communication equipment providers on this. 

If we are going to talk about China (that is a very good point for sure,
and i agree that all the information you sended, and also with the
information that enrique sended is crucial)  I would like to bring to
the discution USA's policy and their capacity on survilliance.


if we speak about human rights, well, let's take a look on Guantanamo,
Irak, Afganistan.
let's pay atention to Patriots Act and others. 

I trust in USA's equipments as much as chinese ones. 

Roberto, gracias por tu informaci?n, pero estaba pensando en otras
cuestiones, no exactamente ese punto, ya que ser?a bueno incluir a los
proveedores de equipamiento norteamericanos en esto tambi?n.
Si vamos a hablar de china (y es un buen punto por cierto, coincido en
que la informaci?n que enviaste y la que envi? Enrique son cruciales),
desear?a traer a la discusi?n la pol?tica de vigilancia global de los
EEUU tambi?n y su capacidad de vigilancia.

Si hablamos de Derechos humanos, bien, peguemos una mirada tambien a
Guant?namo, Irak, Afganistan. a la ley patri?tica y a otras.

Confio en los equipamientos norteamericanos tanto como en los chinos.

Gracias por la informaci?n, seguir? estudiando.

Thank you for the information, i will go on studying.

See you!
Beatriz




From rguerra at lists.privaterra.org  Sat Jul  3 20:32:33 2004
From: rguerra at lists.privaterra.org (Robert Guerra)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:52 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Chinese equipment for WSIS/Tunisia
In-Reply-To: <1088883236.4090.111.camel@linux.local>
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I mentioned the chinese telecom provider because the story 
specifically mentioned it was going to be in place for the WSIS 
summit in Tunisia.

In terms of policies of the US government - All i can say, that there 
are other venues, other lists where that is being discussed, and 
would (personally) prefer that THIS list stay focused on CS@WSIS.

In terms of Human Rights - There's a human rights caucus, no doubt 
they are interested in the topics you mention and will report back to 
us on them.

regards

Robert

* Spanish -
Mencion? el abastecedor telecom chino porque la historia lo mencion? 
espec?ficamente iba a estar en el lugar para la cumbre de WSIS en 
T?nez.

En t?rminos de las pol?ticas de los gobiernos de los E.E.U.U. - todos 
lo que puedo decir, eso all? son otros lugares, otras listas donde se 
est? discutiendo eso, y  (personalmente) prefieren que ESTA estancia 
de la lista se centr? en CS@WSIS.

En t?rminos de derechos humanos - hay un caucus de los derechos 
humanos, ninguna duda que est?n interesados en los asuntos usted 
menciona y divulgar? de nuevo a nosotros en ellos.


* French:

J'ai mentionn? le fournisseur de t?l?communication chinois parce que 
l'histoire l'a sp?cifiquement mentionn? allait ?tre en place pour le 
sommet de WSIS en Tunisie.

En termes de politiques des gouvernements des USA - tous que je puis 
dire, cela l? sont d'autres rendez-vous, d'autres listes o? cela est 
discut?, et  (personnellement) pr?f?rent que CE s?jour de liste s'est 
concentr? sur CS@wsis.

En termes de droits de l'homme - il y a un caucus de droits de 
l'homme, aucun doute qu'ils sont int?ress?s par les mati?res vous 
mentionnez et ferez un rapport ? nous sur elles.




At 4:33 PM -0300 7/3/04, Beatriz Busaniche wrote:
>El s?b, 03-07-2004 a las 11:10, Robert Guerra escribi?:
>
>
>>  I don't understand why you can't make the link between Chinese
>>  telecommunication equipment providers , WSIS @ Tunis and censorship.
>>  Perhaps you need more info..
>
>Robert, thank you very much  for the info.  But i was thinking about
>something else, not exactly that point, but also to include USA
>infraestructure and communication equipment providers on this.
>
>If we are going to talk about China (that is a very good point for sure,
>and i agree that all the information you sended, and also with the
>information that enrique sended is crucial)  I would like to bring to
>the discution USA's policy and their capacity on survilliance.
>
>
>if we speak about human rights, well, let's take a look on Guantanamo,
>Irak, Afganistan.
>let's pay atention to Patriots Act and others.
>
>I trust in USA's equipments as much as chinese ones.
>
>Roberto, gracias por tu informaci?n, pero estaba pensando en otras
>cuestiones, no exactamente ese punto, ya que ser?a bueno incluir a los
>proveedores de equipamiento norteamericanos en esto tambi?n.
>Si vamos a hablar de china (y es un buen punto por cierto, coincido en
>que la informaci?n que enviaste y la que envi? Enrique son cruciales),
>desear?a traer a la discusi?n la pol?tica de vigilancia global de los
>EEUU tambi?n y su capacidad de vigilancia.
>
>Si hablamos de Derechos humanos, bien, peguemos una mirada tambien a
>Guant?namo, Irak, Afganistan. a la ley patri?tica y a otras.
>
>Confio en los equipamientos norteamericanos tanto como en los chinos.
>
>Gracias por la informaci?n, seguir? estudiando.
>
>Thank you for the information, i will go on studying.
>
>See you!
>Beatriz
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Plenary mailing list
>Plenary@wsis-cs.org
>http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/plenary


From Bruno.Oudet at imag.fr  Sat Jul  3 14:58:06 2004
From: Bruno.Oudet at imag.fr (oudet)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:52 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] STATUS: CS Documents on WSIS site
In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.0.20040703093402.04459170@pop.gn.apc.org>
References: <6.1.1.1.0.20040703090638.04461280@pop.gn.apc.org> <000201c460d7$60473110$5f1c723e@Marlyn> <6.1.1.1.0.20040703093402.04459170@pop.gn.apc.org>
Message-ID: <40E6BB6E.5060302@imag.fr>

Hello,

a side comment. Since we aggreed on  the  objective of a multilingual 
world, we could add to the action plan  the development
of babelfish likes for most of the written languages in the world.

Un commentaire ? la suite de ces messages. Puisque l'on  a mis dans la 
d?claration de principe et le plan d'action l'objectif
d'un monde multilingue, on pourrait donc ajouter au plan d'action le 
d?veloppement de clone de babelfish pour toutes
les langues ?crites dans le monde.

Bruno


karen banks a ?crit :

> hi
>
>> Karen, just a note: my translations are not BabelFish because Babelfish
>> has no Arabic translation. Thanks
>
>
> apologies maryln, i was referring to *my* translations - which are 
> *all* from babelfish.
>
> maryln de las apolog?as, refer?a * mi * a las traducciones - que son * 
> todos * de babelfish.
>
> maryln d'excuses, je me r?f?rais * mon * aux traductions - qui sont * 
> tous * du babelfish.
>
> karen
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Plenary@wsis-cs.org
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>


From jsarr at refer.sn  Sun Jul  4 00:12:42 2004
From: jsarr at refer.sn (Joseph Sarr)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:52 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] WSIS CS-Plenary] (FR) =?iso-8859-1?b?U3ludGjoc2U=?= - Famille =?iso-8859-1?b?QXV0b3JpdOlz?= Locales
In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20040628103329.0248dba0@mail.icvolunteers.org>
References: <4.3.2.7.2.20040628103329.0248dba0@mail.icvolunteers.org>
Message-ID: <1088896362.40e73d6a093d7@www.refer.sn>

Chers coll?gues, 

Je vous transmets, ci-apr?s, la synth?se des travaux de la famille des Autorit?s
Locales durant le PREPCOM1 tenu ? Hammamet du 24 au 26 juin 2004.
Malheureusement, il n?y que la version fran?aise. Si une bonne volont? peut
traduire ce texte dans les autres langues admises au PREPCOM1, nous lui en
saurions gr? et le remercions par avance.
Bonne r?ception et salutations cordiales.

M. Joseph SARR,
Pr?sident de la Commission NTIC
Conseil R?gional de Dakar
Rue Ramez Bourgi x All?es Robert Delmas
B.P. 901 Dakar - S?n?gal
T?l. 221 832 39 62
jsarr@refer.sn

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Synth?se des travaux de la Famille des Autorit?s Locales
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

La famille des Autorit?s Locales s?est r?unie les 24, 25 et 26 juin 2004 ?
Hammamet pendant le PREPCOM1. D?embl?e, la famille des Autorit?s Locales a
r?affirm? son encrage ind?fectible au sein de la Soci?t? Civile du Sommet
Mondial sur la Soci?t? de l?Information.

Au cours du processus du Sommet Mondial sur la Soci?t? de l?Information (SMSI),
les collectivit?s locales, dans le cadre de la soci?t? de l?information,
organisent diff?rentes activit?s leur permettant de partager leurs exp?riences
et de d?finir des visions communes. Elles se d?ploient ?galement en r?seaux
internationaux leur permettant d?intensifier le flux de leurs ?changes
d?informations et de bonnes pratiques. 

1) Pr?paration du deuxi?me Sommet Mondial des Autorit?s Locales pour la Soci?t?
de l?Information
Apr?s la dynamique de Lyon qui ?tait un pr?lude ? la premi?re phase du Sommet
Mondial de Gen?ve, s?ouvre maintenant la dynamique de Bilbao qui va ?tre une
ouverture pour la deuxi?me phase du Sommet Mondial de Tunis.

Dans la famille des Autorit?s Locales, les d?bats se sont essentiellement
orient?s sur l?organisation du deuxi?me Sommet Mondial des Autorit?s Locales
pour la Soci?t? de l?Information, pr?vu du 9 au 11 novembre 2005 ? Bilbao. Cette
manifestation, qui a d?j? ?t? officiellement annonc?e au cours du Congr?s Cit?s
et Gouvernements Locaux Unis (CGLU), tenu ? Paris du 2 au 5 mai 2004, fait suite
au Premier Sommet Mondial des Villes et des Pouvoirs Locaux pour la Soci?t? de
l?Information, organis? ? Lyon du 4 au 5 d?cembre 2003. Ce Sommet de Lyon a ?t?
sanctionn? par la ? D?claration de Lyon ? qui a ?t? pr?sent?e le 10 d?cembre
2003 ? Gen?ve lors de la premi?re phase du SMSI. 

Le Sommet de Bilbao sera ouvert aux contributions de tous les acteurs locaux, de
la soci?t? civile comme du secteur priv?. Son organisation a re?u le soutien de
la nouvelle organisation Cit?s et Gouvernements Locaux Unis. Dans la D?claration
finale de son Congr?s Fondateur (Paris, le 5 mai 2004), les villes et les
r?gions du monde se sont engag?es ? ?contribuer aux ?tapes pr?paratoires de la
deuxi?me phase du Sommet Mondial sur la Soci?t? de l?Information (Tunis, 2005),
notamment en participant activement au deuxi?me Sommet des Villes et des
Autorit?s Locales sur la Soci?t? de l?Information qui sera organis? ? Bilbao du
9 au 11 novembre 2005 ?. 

Le d?veloppement de projets d?applications pratiques sur la soci?t? de
l?information en mati?re de sant?, d??ducation et de formation, d?inclusion
sociale pour les groupes d?sh?rit?s, d?administration, de gouvernance locale,
etc., seront ? la base de la pr?paration de cette rencontre de Bilbao. La
r?solution de probl?mes li?s au financement de la soci?t? de l'information y
trouveront ?galement une place importante. Des groupes de travail seront
compos?s au cours des nombreuses r?unions th?matiques ou r?gionales
pr?paratoires et les r?sultats de toutes ces rencontres alimenteront la
pr?paration du Sommet de Bilbao. 

Compte tenu de l?immensit? de la t?che ? abattre, la famille des Autorit?s
Locales invite toutes les entit?s de la soci?t? civile, impliqu?es dans le
d?veloppement de la soci?t? de l?information au niveau local, ? participer
activement ? la pr?paration du Sommet de Bilbao.

2) D?veloppement du R?seau IT4ALL Regions
Pour accompagner le processus du SMSI, le R?seau Mondial des R?gions pour la
Soci?t? de l?Information ? R?seau IT4ALL Region ? ( www.it4all-bilbao.org ) a vu
le jour gr?ce ? la volont? des Institutions Publiques Basques Espagnoles, au
soutien de l?Institut des Nations Unies pour la Formation et la Recherche
(UNITAR) et au programme CIFAL, programme de coop?ration d?centralis?e, dont le
but est d?aider les agents locaux ? identifier leurs priorit?s et ? consolider
leurs capacit?s dans les domaines fondamentaux pour leur d?veloppement. Afin de
g?rer et de donner une impulsion significative au d?veloppement du r?seau ?
IT4ALL Regions ?, une autorit? r?gionale a ?t? responsabilis?e en qualit? de
coordonnateur de n?ud, pour chacune des cinq zones r?gionales suivantes :
Afrique (Coordonnateur : le Conseil R?gional de Dakar), Am?rique Latine ?
Cara?bes (Coordonnateur la Ville de Sao Paulo), Asie - Pacifique (Coordonnateur
: CITYNET) et Europe - Am?rique du Nord (Coordonnateur : le CIFAL BILBAO).
Par ailleurs, pour soutenir l?action du R?seau ? IT4ALL Regions ?, une
association d?nomm?e ? Association Mondiale des R?gions pour la Soci?t? de
l?Information ? (AMRSI) a ?t? cr??e en marge du Premier Sommet Mondial des
Villes et des Pouvoirs Locaux sur la Soci?t? de l?Information, ? Lyon le 3
d?cembre 2003.

La Famille des Autorit?s Locales invite toutes les r?gions et agglom?rations du
monde ? rejoindre cette initiative qui constitue un creuset d??changes et de
partage essentiel dans le domaine de la soci?t? de l?information.


3) Soutien au Fonds de Solidarit? Num?rique
Dans la D?claration de Lyon, les maires, pr?sidents de r?gions et ?lus des
villes et des pouvoirs locaux du monde, associ?s aux repr?sentants des
organisations de la soci?t? civile et du secteur priv?  ? invitent les villes et
les pouvoirs locaux ? s'engager activement en faveur du Fond de Solidarit?
Num?rique pour permettre aux pays du sud de participer pleinement ? la soci?t?
de l'information ? 

Au jour d?aujourd?hui, les villes de Gen?ve, Lyon, Turin, la R?gion du Pays
Basque Espagnol, etc. participent effectivement ? ce fonds. La Conf?rence des
Ministres Africains en charge des NTIC, la Commission Economique Africaine,
l?Association Internationale des Maires  Francophones (AIMF), l?organisation
Cit?s et Gouvernements Locaux Unis (CGLU), etc
 soutiennent ?galement cette
initiative.

4) Nos repr?sentants dans le bureau de la Soci?t? Civile
La Famille des Autorit?s Locales a enfin d?cid?, par consensus, de proc?der ? un
r?am?nagement de sa repr?sentation dans le bureau de la Soci?t? Civile.



From info at virtualactivism.net  Sun Jul  4 20:36:45 2004
From: info at virtualactivism.net (info@virtualactivism.net)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:52 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Human Rights Caucus Assessment of Hammamat - Arabic translation
In-Reply-To: <20040703101026.3ead4739.echaparro@uolsinectis.com.ar>
Message-ID: <000801c461fe$4026ab40$751c723e@Marlyn>

Meryem [and everyone].. attached is the translation. 

Marlyn Tadros, Ph.D
Executive Director
Virtual Activism
http://www.virtualactivism.org


-----Original Message-----
From: Enrique A. Chaparro [mailto:echaparro@uolsinectis.com.ar] 
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 9:10 AM
To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
Subject: Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Chinese equipment for WSIS/Tunisia


One more (brand new) reference to add to Robert's list:

QUOTE
China to Target Mobile Phone Messaging

Fri Jul 2, 4:53 PM ET

By ELAINE KURTENBACH, AP Business Writer

SHANGHAI,  China -  Chinese authorities  plan to  use new  technology to
improve surveillance of mobile phone  messages amid efforts to intensify
policing of private communications, reports said Friday.

The official Xinhua News Agency said  the campaign was aimed at cleaning
up  "pornographic,  obscene and  fraudulent"  phone  messages that  have
"infiltrated short messaging content."

According  to  the  Paris-based  group Reporters  Without  Borders,  the
campaign also aims to widen surveillance of political dissent.

Beijing already  screens e-mail,  censors Internet chatrooms  and blocks
access  to foreign  Web  sites considered  subversive. But mobile  phone
messaging  --known  as  short-message  service,  or  SMS--  is  a  newer
technology, and the government has  struggled to develop ways to control
it.

Reporters  Without Borders  issued a  statement protesting  news that  a
Chinese company, Venus Info Tech Ltd., was authorized by Beijing to sell
a "realtime surveillance system" for SMS messages.
UNQUOTE

You can read the full text at:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=516&u=/ap/20040702/ap_on_re_as
/china_mobile_phone_surveillance_3

Saludos desde el Lejano Sur,

Enrique


-- 
``Izena duen guzia omen da.''
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From marzouki at ras.eu.org  Sun Jul  4 20:58:33 2004
From: marzouki at ras.eu.org (Meryem Marzouki)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:52 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Human Rights Caucus Assessment of Hammamat - Arabic translation
In-Reply-To: <000801c461fe$4026ab40$751c723e@Marlyn>
Message-ID: <8751F223-CDF4-11D8-A3BB-0003935A8C90@ras.eu.org>

Thank you so much, Marlyn !
Could anyone please provide a PDF file of this translation ? Thanks in 
advance. Meryem

Le dimanche, 4 juil 2004, ? 21:36 Europe/Paris, 
<info@virtualactivism.net> a ?crit :

> Meryem [and everyone].. attached is the translation.
>
> Marlyn Tadros, Ph.D
> Executive Director
> Virtual Activism
> http://www.virtualactivism.org
>
> -- 
> ``Izena duen guzia omen da.''
> <humanrights-caucusassessment.rtf>

From lists at mraihi.com  Sun Jul  4 23:44:27 2004
From: lists at mraihi.com (Marouen MRAIHI)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:52 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Human Rights Caucus Assessment of Hammamat - Arabic translation
References: <8751F223-CDF4-11D8-A3BB-0003935A8C90@ras.eu.org>
Message-ID: <007101c46218$795fdfc0$b4be96d5@ic2>

Done
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_________________________________
Marouen MRAIHI
http://profiles.takingitglobal.org/marouen

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Meryem Marzouki" <marzouki@ras.eu.org>
To: <plenary@wsis-cs.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Human Rights Caucus Assessment of Hammamat -
Arabic translation


Thank you so much, Marlyn !
Could anyone please provide a PDF file of this translation ? Thanks in
advance. Meryem

Le dimanche, 4 juil 2004, ? 21:36 Europe/Paris,
<info@virtualactivism.net> a ?crit :

> Meryem [and everyone].. attached is the translation.
>
> Marlyn Tadros, Ph.D
> Executive Director
> Virtual Activism
> http://www.virtualactivism.org
>
> -- 
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From info at virtualactivism.net  Mon Jul  5 00:36:29 2004
From: info at virtualactivism.net (info@virtualactivism.net)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:52 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Human Rights Caucus Assessment of Hammamat - Arabic translation
In-Reply-To: <007101c46218$795fdfc0$b4be96d5@ic2>
Message-ID: <000901c4621f$bdef95c0$791c723e@Marlyn>

Thanks Marouen and Meryem sorry I could not do the pdf myself. I am in
Cairo and I do not have my computer with my programs and files etc... so
I am not 'fully functional'. :-)



Marlyn Tadros, Ph.D
Executive Director
Virtual Activism
http://www.virtualactivism.org


-----Original Message-----
From: Marouen MRAIHI [mailto:lists@mraihi.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 6:44 PM
To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
Subject: Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Human Rights Caucus Assessment of
Hammamat - Arabic translation

Done
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_________________________________
Marouen MRAIHI
http://profiles.takingitglobal.org/marouen

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Meryem Marzouki" <marzouki@ras.eu.org>
To: <plenary@wsis-cs.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Human Rights Caucus Assessment of
Hammamat -
Arabic translation


Thank you so much, Marlyn !
Could anyone please provide a PDF file of this translation ? Thanks in
advance. Meryem

Le dimanche, 4 juil 2004, ? 21:36 Europe/Paris,
<info@virtualactivism.net> a ?crit :

> Meryem [and everyone].. attached is the translation.
>
> Marlyn Tadros, Ph.D
> Executive Director
> Virtual Activism
> http://www.virtualactivism.org
>
> -- 



From info at virtualactivism.net  Mon Jul  5 00:40:45 2004
From: info at virtualactivism.net (info@virtualactivism.net)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:52 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Corrections: Human Rights Caucus Assessment of Hammamat - Arabic translation
In-Reply-To: <007101c46218$795fdfc0$b4be96d5@ic2>
Message-ID: <000a01c46220$57528d80$791c723e@Marlyn>

Marouen, since Meryem gave me the correct format of her name and since I
have noticed a couple of mistakes in the document after I sent it, if
you do not mind, I will resend the document just to make it better.
Apologies for doubling the work. I will send it tomorrow morning. 

Marlyn Tadros, Ph.D
Executive Director
Virtual Activism
http://www.virtualactivism.org


-----Original Message-----
From: Marouen MRAIHI [mailto:lists@mraihi.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 6:44 PM
To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
Subject: Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Human Rights Caucus Assessment of
Hammamat - Arabic translation

Done
no security on the file
_________________________________
Marouen MRAIHI
http://profiles.takingitglobal.org/marouen

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Meryem Marzouki" <marzouki@ras.eu.org>
To: <plenary@wsis-cs.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Human Rights Caucus Assessment of
Hammamat -
Arabic translation


Thank you so much, Marlyn !
Could anyone please provide a PDF file of this translation ? Thanks in
advance. Meryem

Le dimanche, 4 juil 2004, ? 21:36 Europe/Paris,
<info@virtualactivism.net> a ?crit :

> Meryem [and everyone].. attached is the translation.
>
> Marlyn Tadros, Ph.D
> Executive Director
> Virtual Activism
> http://www.virtualactivism.org
>
> -- 



From info at virtualactivism.net  Mon Jul  5 09:08:28 2004
From: info at virtualactivism.net (info@virtualactivism.net)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:52 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Final verions:  Human Rights Caucus Assessment of Hammamat - Arabic translation
In-Reply-To: <007101c46218$795fdfc0$b4be96d5@ic2>
Message-ID: <000001c46267$43ae5ab0$991c723e@Marlyn>

Ok here is the final version. I had a few corrections to make because it
seems I sent it out in a hurry yesterday. 
Thanks

Marlyn Tadros, Ph.D
Executive Director
Virtual Activism
http://www.virtualactivism.org


-----Original Message-----
From: Marouen MRAIHI [mailto:lists@mraihi.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 6:44 PM
To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
Subject: Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Human Rights Caucus Assessment of
Hammamat - Arabic translation

Done
no security on the file
_________________________________
Marouen MRAIHI
http://profiles.takingitglobal.org/marouen

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Meryem Marzouki" <marzouki@ras.eu.org>
To: <plenary@wsis-cs.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Human Rights Caucus Assessment of
Hammamat -
Arabic translation


Thank you so much, Marlyn !
Could anyone please provide a PDF file of this translation ? Thanks in
advance. Meryem

Le dimanche, 4 juil 2004, ? 21:36 Europe/Paris,
<info@virtualactivism.net> a ?crit :

> Meryem [and everyone].. attached is the translation.
>
> Marlyn Tadros, Ph.D
> Executive Director
> Virtual Activism
> http://www.virtualactivism.org
>
> -- 
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From jsarr at refer.sn  Mon Jul  5 14:43:19 2004
From: jsarr at refer.sn (Joseph Sarr)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:52 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] WSIS CS-Plenary] =?iso-8859-1?b?U3ludGjoc2U=?= - Famille =?iso-8859-1?b?QXV0b3JpdOlz?= Locales - Version =?iso-8859-1?b?Y29ycmln6WU=?=
Message-ID: <1089034999.40e95af78aa16@www.refer.sn>

Synth?se - Famille Autorit?s Locales - Version corrig?e ! ! !

Chers coll?gues, 

Je vous transmets, ci-apr?s, la version corrig?e du rapport de synth?se des
travaux de la famille des Autorit?s Locales durant le PREPCOM1 tenu ? Hammamet
du 24 au 26 juin 2004. 
Bonne r?ception et salutations cordiales. 

M. Joseph SARR, 
Pr?sident de la Commission NTIC 
Conseil R?gional de Dakar 
Rue Ramez Bourgi x All?es Robert Delmas 
B.P. 901 Dakar - S?n?gal 
T?l. 221 832 39 62 
jsarr@refer.sn 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Synth?se des travaux de la Famille des Autorit?s Locales 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


La famille des Autorit?s Locales s?est r?unie les 24, 25 et 26 juin 2004 ? 
Hammamet pendant le PREPCOM1. D?embl?e, la famille des Autorit?s Locales a 
r?affirm? son ancrage ind?fectible au sein de la Soci?t? Civile du Sommet 
Mondial sur la Soci?t? de l?Information. 

Au cours du processus du Sommet Mondial sur la Soci?t? de l?Information (SMSI),
les collectivit?s locales, dans le cadre de la soci?t? de l?information,
organisent diff?rentes activit?s leur permettant de partager leurs exp?riences
et de d?finir des visions communes. Elles se d?ploient ?galement en r?seaux
internationaux leur permettant d?intensifier le flux de leurs ?changes
d?informations et de bonnes pratiques. 

1) Pr?paration du deuxi?me Sommet Mondial des Autorit?s Locales pour la Soci?t?
de l?Information 
Apr?s la dynamique de Lyon qui ?tait un pr?lude ? la premi?re phase du Sommet 
Mondial de Gen?ve, s?ouvre maintenant la dynamique de Bilbao qui va ?tre une 
ouverture pour la deuxi?me phase du Sommet Mondial de Tunis. 

Dans la famille des Autorit?s Locales, les d?bats se sont essentiellement 
orient?s sur l?organisation du deuxi?me Sommet Mondial des Autorit?s Locales 
pour la Soci?t? de l?Information, pr?vu du 9 au 11 novembre 2005 ? Bilbao. Cette
manifestation, qui a d?j? ?t? officiellement annonc?e au cours du Congr?s Cit?s
et Gouvernements Locaux Unis (CGLU), tenu ? Paris du 2 au 5 mai 2004, fait suite
au Premier Sommet Mondial des Villes et des Pouvoirs Locaux pour la Soci?t? de
l?Information, organis? ? Lyon du 4 au 5 d?cembre 2003. Ce Sommet de Lyon a ?t?
sanctionn? par la ? D?claration de Lyon ? qui a ?t? pr?sent?e le 10 d?cembre
2003 ? Gen?ve lors de la premi?re phase du SMSI. 

Le Sommet de Bilbao sera ouvert aux contributions de tous les acteurs locaux, de
la soci?t? civile comme du secteur priv?. Son organisation a re?u le soutien de
la nouvelle organisation Cit?s et Gouvernements Locaux Unis. Dans la D?claration
finale de son Congr?s Fondateur (Paris, le 5 mai 2004), les villes et les
r?gions du monde se sont engag?es ? ?contribuer aux ?tapes pr?paratoires de la
deuxi?me phase du Sommet Mondial sur la Soci?t? de l?Information (Tunis, 2005),
notamment en participant activement au deuxi?me Sommet des Villes et des
Autorit?s Locales sur la Soci?t? de l?Information qui sera organis? ? Bilbao du
9 au 11 novembre 2005 ?. 

Le d?veloppement de projets d?applications pratiques sur la soci?t? de 
l?information en mati?re de sant?, d??ducation et de formation, d?inclusion 
sociale pour les groupes d?sh?rit?s, d?administration, de gouvernance locale, 
etc., seront ? la base de la pr?paration de cette rencontre de Bilbao. La 
r?solution de probl?mes li?s au financement de la soci?t? de l'information y 
trouveront ?galement une place importante. Des groupes de travail seront 
compos?s au cours des nombreuses r?unions th?matiques ou r?gionales 
pr?paratoires et les r?sultats de toutes ces rencontres alimenteront la 
pr?paration du Sommet de Bilbao. 

Compte tenu de l?immensit? de la t?che ? abattre, la famille des Autorit?s 
Locales invite toutes les entit?s de la soci?t? civile, impliqu?es dans le 
d?veloppement de la soci?t? de l?information au niveau local, ? participer 
activement ? la pr?paration du Sommet de Bilbao. 

2) D?veloppement du R?seau IT4ALL Regions 
Pour accompagner le processus du SMSI, le R?seau Mondial des R?gions pour la 
Soci?t? de l?Information ? R?seau IT4ALL Region ? ( www.it4all-bilbao.org ) a vu
le jour gr?ce ? la volont? des Institutions Publiques Basques Espagnoles, au
soutien de l?Institut des Nations Unies pour la Formation et la Recherche 
(UNITAR) et au programme CIFAL, programme de coop?ration d?centralis?e, dont le
but est d?aider les agents locaux ? identifier leurs priorit?s et ? consolider
leurs capacit?s dans les domaines fondamentaux pour leur d?veloppement. Afin de
g?rer et de donner une impulsion significative au d?veloppement du r?seau ?
IT4ALL Regions ?, une autorit? r?gionale a ?t? responsabilis?e en qualit? de
coordonnateur de n?ud, pour chacune des cinq zones r?gionales suivantes :
Afrique (Coordonnateur : le Conseil R?gional de Dakar), Am?rique Latine ?
Cara?bes (Coordonnateur la Ville de Sao Paulo), Asie - Pacifique (Coordonnateur
: CITYNET) et Europe - Am?rique du Nord (Coordonnateur : le CIFAL BILBAO). 
Par ailleurs, pour soutenir l?action du R?seau ? IT4ALL Regions ?, une 
association d?nomm?e ? Association Mondiale des R?gions pour la Soci?t? de 
l?Information ? (AMRSI) a ?t? cr??e en marge du Premier Sommet Mondial des 
Villes et des Pouvoirs Locaux sur la Soci?t? de l?Information, ? Lyon le 3 
d?cembre 2003. 

La Famille des Autorit?s Locales invite toutes les r?gions et agglom?rations du
monde ? rejoindre cette initiative qui constitue un creuset d??changes et de
partage essentiel dans le domaine de la soci?t? de l?information. 


3) Soutien au Fonds de Solidarit? Num?rique 
Dans la D?claration de Lyon, les maires, pr?sidents de r?gions et ?lus des 
villes et des pouvoirs locaux du monde, associ?s aux repr?sentants des 
organisations de la soci?t? civile et du secteur priv?  ? invitent les villes et
les pouvoirs locaux ? s'engager activement en faveur du Fond de Solidarit? 
Num?rique pour permettre aux pays du sud de participer pleinement ? la soci?t? 
de l'information ? 

Au jour d?aujourd?hui, les villes de Gen?ve, Lyon, Turin, la R?gion du Pays 
Basque Espagnol, etc. participent effectivement ? ce fonds. La Conf?rence des 
Ministres Africains en charge des NTIC, la Commission de l'Union Africaine
Africaine, l?Association Internationale des Maires  Francophones (AIMF),
l?organisation Cit?s et Gouvernements Locaux Unis (CGLU), etc
 soutiennent
?galement cette initiative. 
La Famille des Autorit?s Locales invite toutes les collectivit?s locales
impliqu?es dans la soci?t? de l'information ? participer au d?veloppement de ce
fond. 

4) Nos repr?sentants dans le bureau de la Soci?t? Civile 
La Famille des Autorit?s Locales a enfin d?cid?, par consensus, de proc?der ? un
r?am?nagement de sa repr?sentation dans le bureau de la Soci?t? Civile.



From lists at mraihi.com  Mon Jul  5 18:22:59 2004
From: lists at mraihi.com (Marouen MRAIHI)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:52 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] French Translations
References: <&lt;p06110427bd08e9d92f9a@[192.168.1.251]&gt; &lt;003301c45f80$abb84790$8b1c723e@Marlyn&gt; &lt;6.1.1.1.0.20040701163845.0398c4b8@pop.gn.apc.org&gt; <bab303b8cc937dd864bda788aac2e497@> <6.1.1.1.0.20040702124112.03af7460@pop.gn.apc.org> <00d701c4602c$ce4fa490$1abe96d5@ic2> <6.1.1.1.0.20040703085801.042c8ec0@pop.gn.apc.org>
Message-ID: <028001c462b5$65f71230$f5be96d5@ic2>

1. context
2. development
3. Participation

These files were translated into french
I found Internet governance statement already translated on the ITU website.

I think a fast checkup of my translation can be useful before sending these
files to ITU.

Regards

_________________________________
Marouen MRAIHI
http://profiles.takingitglobal.org/marouen



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "karen banks" <karenb@gn.apc.org>
To: <translation@wsis-cs.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 9:00 AM
Subject: [Translation] Re: TRANSLATION: Status of CS documents


> Dear marouen
>
> >I'm sorry It took more time than I planned but It will be done soon
(before
> >the weekend)!. I'll take translation to french of 25 June Statments
> >
> >During the weekend I'll do also Internet Governance docuemnt !
>
> thank you very much - which means we will have, by Monday:
>
> June 25
> 1. context - english, arabic, french
> 2. development - english, arabic, french
> 3. Participation - english, arabic, french
>
> June 26
> 1. Human rights (Belhassen) - english, arabic, french, spanish
> 2. Human rights (Awa) - no electronic copy available yet
> 3. Internet governance - english, arabic, french
>
> we are still looking for spanish translation - if anyone on this list can
> help, let me know but i will also ask around in other places..
>
> karen
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Translation mailing list
> Translation@wsis-cs.org
> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/translation
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From ljeffrey at ecommons.net  Mon Jul  5 22:59:27 2004
From: ljeffrey at ecommons.net (Liss Jeffrey)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:52 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] FYI: News on Tunis Prep Com 1
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20040705175634.02e22580@mail.bydesign-elab.net>

http://www.idg.com.sg/idgwww.nsf/0/89C7423D6CED239B48256EC8000DE973?OpenDocument
Early row signals challenges for next Net summit
By John Blau
IDG News Service, D?sseldorf Bureau
05-07-2004
Tempers flared briefly during a recent meeting designed to define the 
structure of next year's follow-up global Net summit in Tunis, Tunisia, and 
what the assembly should deliver in the way of action.
An unexpected human rights row on June 26 at the first preparatory meeting 
(Prepcom-1) for the second World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) 
in November 2005 signalled the many challenges the world faces in bridging 
the digital divide and giving people, particularly in developing countries, 
access to information and knowledge.

Representatives of the Tunisian government, which will host WSIS II, tried 
to block Tunisian human rights activist Souhayr Belhassen of the Civil 
Society Human Rights Caucus from delivering a slightly critical statement 
on the government's position on freedom of speech and the right to privacy. 
In the end, a formal protest by the European Union (E.U.), pointing to the 
active role of Civil Society groups in the Net talks, forced the Tunisian 
government delegation to back off and let Belhassen speak.

If blood pressures rose briefly over human rights at the first meeting, 
they could easily soar at the next two prepcoms or at the final summit when 
delegates meet to decide on the prickly issues of Internet governance and 
infrastructure funding -- both of which were shelved at the first Net 
summit in Geneva at the end of last year -- and on how to implement the 
agreed upon action plan.

"The human rights row showed how sensitive many of the issues are," said 
Ralph Bendrath, a Civil Society representative from the German Heinrich 
B?ll Foundation. "Some tough negotiating lies ahead."

The two special task forces approved at WSIS I to focus on Internet 
governance and funding task forces are expected to make preliminary reports 
at Prepcom-3 in September 2005, said Bendrath, who attended the first 
preparatory meeting.

Internet governance is a term that has evolved from its early technical 
focus on names, numbers and protocols to include policy issues. And it's 
the policy aspect that has led to a divide between the E.U., U.S. and many 
other industrialized countries in the one camp and Brazil, China and 
numerous other developing countries in the other. While the U.S.-led bloc 
favors the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), 
based in Marina del Rey, California, the other bloc seeks strong government 
intervention.

The other battle to be fought from now until WSIS II is funding expansion 
of the Internet to the billions of people without access. Pleas by 
developing nations such as Senegal to set up a "digital solidarity fund" 
were largely rejected at the first summit by developed countries, notably 
the U.S. and the 15 members of the E.U. before enlargement, which favor 
using existing funding programs and voluntary contributions.

Even if funding and Net governance are high on the agenda, other issues, 
such as security and open-source software, will continue to draw attention. 
Viruses, worms and various forms of fraud, which are already nibbling away 
at the security of the Internet in industrialized nations, will come to 
developing countries as well. And although the U.S. successfully lobbied to 
have proprietary software added to the WSIS declaration of principle, 
numerous poor countries view open source as a means to develop their own 
technology instead of having to import it at a price many can't afford.

In Geneva, delegates agreed to achieve certain goals, such as ensuring that 
more than half of the world's population has access to the Web, telephone 
lines or some other form of electronic media by 2015. How to implement 
these goals as part of the agreed action plan and monitor performance, 
however, is still an unanswered question, according to Bendrath. "What was 
agreed in Geneva was more a good draft than a real action plan," Bendrath 
said. "There wasn't a lot of time to put together the plan. Now there is."

The next meeting, Prepcom-2, is scheduled for Feb. 17 in Geneva.  
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From herve at info.unicaen.fr  Tue Jul  6 09:54:21 2004
From: herve at info.unicaen.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Herv=E9_Le_Crosnier?=)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:52 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] How legitimate is Civil Society (was : meetings with Kummer...)
Message-ID: <40EA68BD.4050008@info.unicaen.fr>

jeanette@wz-berlin.de wrote:

> 
> I find it difficult to form a clear opinion on these issues. On the one
> hand, you are right. While we do accuse governments of lack of
> transparency and accountability we have problems with these standards
> ourselves. On the other hand we shouldn't forget that civil society is
> clearly a different entity than governments. 

	Hello Jeannette,

	Though i rarely write on this too much noisy list,
	i want to tell you that you really hit the good point
	in your tentative to define "civil society".

	Public space is complex, and democracy need to have
	simultaneoulsy in the public sphere :
	- representation
	- argumentation

	CS is on the argumentation side, even if it's not that easy
	as you expirienced in Hammamet. What worry the most actors of
	CS is not to be in position to argue.

	But society is not always ready to arguments and
	conter-arguments. The "Tribunal de la raison" of the
	Enlightments is a perspective, not an actual reality.

	That's the objective of CS to defend this very special
	space for agumentation, reasonning, accountability (of choice,
	not only of ideas)...

	It's a great job by itself. Though really different from the
	one of governments and even of private sector.

	Thank you for your intervention.

Herv? Le Crosnier

-----------------------

	Bonjour Jeannette,

	Bien que je n'?crive que rarement sur cette liste
	bruyante, je voulais vous dire que vous posez tr?s
	pr?cis?ment le bon probl?me dans votre tentative
	de d?finir la socit? civile.

	L'espace public est complexe, et la d?mocratie a besoin
	de deux modes d'expression dans la sph?re publique :
	- la repr?sentation
	- et l'argumentation

	La Soci?t? civile est dans l'ordre de l'argumentation,
	m?me si ce n'est pas toujours facile, comme vous avez
	pu l'exp?rimenter ? Hammamet. Ce qui est le plus
	difficile ? supporter pour les acteurs de la CS c'est
	de ne plus ?tre en position pour pouvoir argumenter.

	Mais la soci?t? n'est pas toujours pr?te pour les
	arguments et les contre-arguments. Le "Tribunal
	de la Raison" des Lumi?res est une perspective
	pas une r?alit? pr?sente.

	C'est la r?le de la soci?t? civile de d?fendre cttte
	espace tr?s particulier n?cessaire au d?bat, ? l'argumentation
	au raisonnement, et ? l'?valuation (sur les faits et non sur
*	les id?es)

	C'est un tr?s beau travail en soi, quoique diff?rent de
	celui des gouvernements ou m?me du secteur priv?. Et qui
	m?rite toute notre attention.

	Merci pour votre intervention

Herv? Le Crosnier

----------------------

suite du texte de Jeannette Hoffmann
-----------------------------

>Governments are formally
> elected bodies which act within the framework of constitutions and laws.
> Civil society is a much more amorphous and ephemeral, issue oriented
> network of people. We shouldn't make the mistake to judge civil society
> attitudes on the basis of comparisons with governments. We cannot be
> representative in the same way as governments are to their citizens, and
> we are not subject to the same forms of accountability as governments are.
> The big challenge as I see it is how civil society networks can create
> legitimacy despite the fact that they lack almost everything that makes
> governments legitimate in the context of their nationally specific version
> of democracy.
> 
> A year ago or so I searched more or less systematically for definitions of
> civil society. The ones I found most plausible defined civil society as
> communicative space situated between governments/public sector and
> industry. It is the space where the people argue about public issues of
> general concern. It goes without saying that a space cannot be
> representative or accountable but can it at least bring forth legitimate
> means of communication and consensus building?
> 
> In order to apply legitimacy to civil society it needs to be adjusted to
> its characteristics. What I find an important rule is to avoid
> reifications. It is necessary to keep in mind that "we" is usually a body
> without clear demarcation or membership (unless we equate it with members
> of this mailing list). The only way to cope constructively with this
> situation seems to me to worship and defend openness, inclusiveness and
> transparency - even though this seemed to be somewhat self distructive in
> the face of all these government friendly NGO folks in Hammamet.


From lists at mraihi.com  Tue Jul  6 10:09:51 2004
From: lists at mraihi.com (Marouen MRAIHI)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:52 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Final verions:  Human Rights Caucus Assessment of Hammamat - Arabic translation
References: <000001c46267$43ae5ab0$991c723e@Marlyn>
Message-ID: <00b901c46339$6b44e760$67be96d5@ic2>

PDF conversion done

Robert, it would be nice to give to translation team a space on the CS
website to avoid sending heavy files !

_________________________________
Marouen MRAIHI
http://profiles.takingitglobal.org/marouen


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <info@virtualactivism.net>
To: <plenary@wsis-cs.org>
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 9:08 AM
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Final verions: Human Rights Caucus Assessment of
Hammamat - Arabic translation


Ok here is the final version. I had a few corrections to make because it
seems I sent it out in a hurry yesterday.
Thanks

Marlyn Tadros, Ph.D
Executive Director
Virtual Activism
http://www.virtualactivism.org


-----Original Message-----
From: Marouen MRAIHI [mailto:lists@mraihi.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 6:44 PM
To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
Subject: Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Human Rights Caucus Assessment of
Hammamat - Arabic translation

Done
no security on the file
_________________________________
Marouen MRAIHI
http://profiles.takingitglobal.org/marouen

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Meryem Marzouki" <marzouki@ras.eu.org>
To: <plenary@wsis-cs.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Human Rights Caucus Assessment of
Hammamat -
Arabic translation


Thank you so much, Marlyn !
Could anyone please provide a PDF file of this translation ? Thanks in
advance. Meryem

Le dimanche, 4 juil 2004, ? 21:36 Europe/Paris,
<info@virtualactivism.net> a ?crit :

> Meryem [and everyone].. attached is the translation.
>
> Marlyn Tadros, Ph.D
> Executive Director
> Virtual Activism
> http://www.virtualactivism.org
>
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From lachapelle at openwsis.org  Tue Jul  6 11:31:42 2004
From: lachapelle at openwsis.org (Bertrand de LA CHAPELLE)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:52 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: "the friends of the president" drafting group
Message-ID: <200407061031.BYM30137@ms7.netsolmail.com>

Dear Wolfgang,

This is certainly worth exploring.

Two comments,though : 
- voting rights do not mean much when decisions are taken by 
consensus; the key questions are : what guarantee that CS 
amendments are going to be duly taken into account ? and 
what happens if, in the end, there is no agreement on the 
final declaration ?
- what are the respective benefits of drafting among 
separated constituencies vs united consituencies in the 
Tokyo regional conference model ? one could envisage a 
general joint drafting and a final polishing and reviewing 
by governments only.

These alternatives must be carefully evaluated.

Bertrand 


---- Original message ----
>Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:28:24 +0200
>From: Wolfgang Kleinw?chter <kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-
halle.de>  
>Subject: AW: [WSIS CS-Plenary] "the friends of the 
president" drafting group  
>To: plenary@wsis-cs.org, plenary@wsis-cs.org
>
>Dear Betrand,
> 
>thanks for the careful analysis. As I proposed in an 
earlier message, one "trick" could be to propose a "non-
voting liaison". The ICANN system of collaboration and 
multistakeholder approach is based on this liaison principle 
(the GAC and the ALAC and other communities have non-voting 
liaisons in official ICANN bodies without voting rights, 
that means they do not share the responsiblity for decisions 
and keep their right to articulate an individual and 
dissending voice).
> 
>So why not propose this officially to Karklins via the 
Bureau?
> 
>Best
> 
>wolfgang
> 
>a 
>
>________________________________
>
>Von: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org im Auftrag von Bertrand de 
LA CHAPELLE
>Gesendet: Mo 28.06.2004 13:49
>An: plenary@wsis-cs.org
>Betreff: [WSIS CS-Plenary] "the friends of the president" 
drafting group
>
>
>
>Hi Rik,
>
>You rightly identified this notion of a "friends of the
>president group" as an important novation in the process. A.
>Samassekou tried something similar in the first phase but
>encountered serious difficulties in the PrepCom2, as
>governments (in particular GRULAC if I remember well)
>considered he had no mandate for doing so and that, as a
>result, they had not been able to contribute. So his whole
>document was trashed.
>
>Drawing lessons from that painful experience, Janis Karklins
>has made sure he is given an explicit mandate this time. But
>the question of how Civil society could participate in this
>process is not closed. Quite on the contrary.
>
>Indeed, during the joint Bureaus meeting, (to which I
>participated on behalf of the Internet Governance Caucus), I
>explicitely mentionned to President Karklins this 
formulation
>about a group of "friends of the President".
>
>I also recalled the statement Ralf had read that very 
morning
>in the official plenary, about providing appropriate
>mechanisms for civil society to effectively contribute "in a
>timely manner" to the drafting of whatever Political
>Declaration could be planned for Tunis and our willingness 
to
>be involved. I also recalled that SG Utsumi a few minutes
>earlier in his response to a previous question, had wished
>the setting up of "appropriate communication channels" with
>civil society.
>
>To my surprise, Amb. Karklins went further than I expected,
>replying straightforwardly that he could envisage having
>civil society and private sector representatives in the 
group
>of friends of the President.
>
>He may have been too bold : although no government made an
>explicit remarks at that time, I do not believe they would
>accept a joint, multi-stakeholder group to facilitate
>drafting.
>
>Nor am I sure this would be in the full interest of civil
>society to be merged in one single group. Maybe a separate,
>paralel, channel would be better. It has to be evaluated
>carefully - and quickly.
>
>But two things are certain in that context :
>- the earlier good input channels are established with the
>President, the more impact there can be on the architecture
>of the final Tunis Declaration itself;
>- Amb Karklins is visibly willing to find ways to involve
>civil society in more than mere symbolic ways, and this
>notion of "friends of the President" is to consider with
>great attention. 
>
>The second phase is different from the first one : the way
>the final document is going to be drafted clearly more
>structured.
>
>A priority is therefore to define how we want to be part of
>that process and lobby to get support from friendly
>governments (as was the case with the EU to solve the
>Hammamet CS Crisis)
>
>For the rest, you are right to mention that the Summit
>process must take into account not only regional and 
thematic
>events but also "WSIS-related Events". This leaves the
>possibility for events organized by civil society to push a
>given theme and force it somehow on the Agenda.
>
>This is just preliminary thoughts.
>
>Best
>
>
>Bertrand
>
>
>---- Original message ----
>>Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 11:01:45 -0400
>>From: Rik Panganiban <rikp@earthlink.net> 
>>Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] process for drafting of
>documents 
>>To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
>>
>>COMMENTARY ON THE PRESIDENT'S PROPOSAL FOR A SUMMIT 
DOCUMENT
>DRAFTING
>>PROCESS
>>
>>My understanding is that the President of the Prepcom Amb.
>Janis
>>Karklins has made quite an interesting proposal, which
>should be
>>accepted today.  He calls for a "group of friends of the
>President" in
>>consultation with regional groups to prepare a "document to
>serve as
>>the basis of negotiations" taking into account the outcomes
>of relevent
>>thematic, regional and other "WSIS-related" meetings.
>>
>>This proposal would represent a good amount of trust placed
>in the
>>President to facilitate the drafting of the main texts of
>the Summit
>>directly, as opposed to being done through a bureau or only
>through a
>>formal Prepcom process.  In Phase I, the Prepcom 
President's
>own
>>drafting process was pre-empted by governments wishing to
>have more
>>direct control over the drafting.
>>
>>This also would be a evolving document that would be able 
to
>>incorporate the results of various "WSIS-related" 
meetings. 
>This is in
>>contrast to the Phase I process, which did not allow for 
the
>regional
>>consultations to be directly inputted into the draft summit
>texts.  In
>>addition, it leaves vague the notion of which meetings
>actually might
>>be included, since "WSIS-related" could be interpreted 
quite
>broadly,
>>perhaps including meetings organized by the private sector,
>civil
>>society, academia, etc.
>>
>>Presumably the final documents will take the form of a
>political
>>declaration and an action-oriented document.
>>
>>For civil society, this represents perhaps a gain and
>perhaps a loss in
>>terms of our ability to monitor and contribute to the
>drafting process.
>>  A "friends of the chair" committee would presumably be
>closed to
>>observers.  However a text incorporating directly thematic,
>regional
>>and other WSIS-related meetings might be more open to civil
>society
>>input, since it gives us more opportunities to make
>contributions that
>>in the end might end up in the summit text.
>>
>>Rik Panganiban
>>===============================================
>>RIK PANGANIBAN       Communications Coordinator
>>
>>Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship
>>with the United Nations (CONGO)
>>web: http://www.ngocongo.org
>>email: rik.panganiban@ngocongo.org
>>mobile: (+1) 917-710-5524
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From ajp at glocom.ac.jp  Tue Jul  6 12:53:52 2004
From: ajp at glocom.ac.jp (Adam Peake)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:52 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: "the friends of the president" drafting
 group
In-Reply-To: <200407061031.BYM30137@ms7.netsolmail.com>
References: <200407061031.BYM30137@ms7.netsolmail.com>
Message-ID: <p0611044cbd103bf1fae4@[192.168.1.254]>


At 12:31 PM +0200 7/6/04, Bertrand de LA CHAPELLE wrote:
>Dear Wolfgang,
>
>This is certainly worth exploring.
>
>Two comments,though :
>- voting rights do not mean much when decisions are taken by
>consensus; the key questions are : what guarantee that CS
>amendments are going to be duly taken into account ? and
>what happens if, in the end, there is no agreement on the
>final declaration ?
>- what are the respective benefits of drafting among
>separated constituencies vs united consituencies in the
>Tokyo regional conference model ? one could envisage a
>general joint drafting and a final polishing and reviewing
>by governments only.
>
>These alternatives must be carefully evaluated.

"friends of the president" is an attractive idea 
in many ways.  But as these two comments note 
also involves some nasty potential problems 
(transparency?)

Tokyo regional conference model is described in 
the two attached files (MS Word format and 
StarOffice.)

Adam






>Bertrand
>
>
>---- Original message ----
>>Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:28:24 +0200
>>From: Wolfgang Kleinw?chter <kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-
>halle.de>?
>>Subject: AW: [WSIS CS-Plenary] "the friends of the
>president" drafting group?
>>To: plenary@wsis-cs.org, plenary@wsis-cs.org
>>
>>Dear Betrand,
>>
>>thanks for the careful analysis. As I proposed in an
>earlier message, one "trick" could be to propose a "non-
>voting liaison". The ICANN system of collaboration and
>multistakeholder approach is based on this liaison principle
>(the GAC and the ALAC and other communities have non-voting
>liaisons in official ICANN bodies without voting rights,
>that means they do not share the responsiblity for decisions
>and keep their right to articulate an individual and
>dissending voice).
>>
>>So why not propose this officially to Karklins via the
>Bureau?
>>
>>Best
>>
>>wolfgang
>>
>>a
>>
>>________________________________
>>
>>Von: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org im Auftrag von Bertrand de
>LA CHAPELLE
>>Gesendet: Mo 28.06.2004 13:49
>>An: plenary@wsis-cs.org
>>Betreff: [WSIS CS-Plenary] "the friends of the president"
>drafting group
>>
>>
>>
>>Hi Rik,
>>
>>You rightly identified this notion of a "friends of the
>>president group" as an important novation in the process. A.
>>Samassekou tried something similar in the first phase but
>>encountered serious difficulties in the PrepCom2, as
>>governments (in particular GRULAC if I remember well)
>>considered he had no mandate for doing so and that, as a
>>result, they had not been able to contribute. So his whole
>>document was trashed.
>>
>>Drawing lessons from that painful experience, Janis Karklins
>>has made sure he is given an explicit mandate this time. But
>>the question of how Civil society could participate in this
>>process is not closed. Quite on the contrary.
>>
>>Indeed, during the joint Bureaus meeting, (to which I
>>participated on behalf of the Internet Governance Caucus), I
>>explicitely mentionned to President Karklins this
>formulation
>>about a group of "friends of the President".
>>
>>I also recalled the statement Ralf had read that very
>morning
>>in the official plenary, about providing appropriate
>>mechanisms for civil society to effectively contribute "in a
>>timely manner" to the drafting of whatever Political
>>Declaration could be planned for Tunis and our willingness
>to
>>be involved. I also recalled that SG Utsumi a few minutes
>>earlier in his response to a previous question, had wished
>>the setting up of "appropriate communication channels" with
>>civil society.
>>
>>To my surprise, Amb. Karklins went further than I expected,
>  >replying straightforwardly that he could envisage having
>>civil society and private sector representatives in the
>group
>>of friends of the President.
>>
>>He may have been too bold : although no government made an
>>explicit remarks at that time, I do not believe they would
>>accept a joint, multi-stakeholder group to facilitate
>  >drafting.
>>
>>Nor am I sure this would be in the full interest of civil
>>society to be merged in one single group. Maybe a separate,
>>paralel, channel would be better. It has to be evaluated
>  >carefully - and quickly.
>>
>>But two things are certain in that context :
>>- the earlier good input channels are established with the
>>President, the more impact there can be on the architecture
>>of the final Tunis Declaration itself;
>>- Amb Karklins is visibly willing to find ways to involve
>>civil society in more than mere symbolic ways, and this
>>notion of "friends of the President" is to consider with
>>great attention.
>>
>>The second phase is different from the first one : the way
>>the final document is going to be drafted clearly more
>>structured.
>>
>>A priority is therefore to define how we want to be part of
>>that process and lobby to get support from friendly
>>governments (as was the case with the EU to solve the
>>Hammamet CS Crisis)
>>
>>For the rest, you are right to mention that the Summit
>>process must take into account not only regional and
>thematic
>>events but also "WSIS-related Events". This leaves the
>>possibility for events organized by civil society to push a
>>given theme and force it somehow on the Agenda.
>>
>>This is just preliminary thoughts.
>>
>>Best
>>
>>
>>Bertrand
>>
>>
>>---- Original message ----
>>>Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 11:01:45 -0400
>>>From: Rik Panganiban <rikp@earthlink.net>
>>>Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] process for drafting of
>>documents
>>>To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
>>>
>>>COMMENTARY ON THE PRESIDENT'S PROPOSAL FOR A SUMMIT
>DOCUMENT
>>DRAFTING
>>>PROCESS
>>>
>>>My understanding is that the President of the Prepcom Amb.
>>Janis
>>>Karklins has made quite an interesting proposal, which
>>should be
>>>accepted today.  He calls for a "group of friends of the
>>President" in
>>>consultation with regional groups to prepare a "document to
>>serve as
>>>the basis of negotiations" taking into account the outcomes
>>of relevent
>>>thematic, regional and other "WSIS-related" meetings.
>>>
>>>This proposal would represent a good amount of trust placed
>>in the
>>>President to facilitate the drafting of the main texts of
>>the Summit
>>>directly, as opposed to being done through a bureau or only
>>through a
>>>formal Prepcom process.  In Phase I, the Prepcom
>President's
>>own
>>>drafting process was pre-empted by governments wishing to
>>have more
>>>direct control over the drafting.
>>>
>>>This also would be a evolving document that would be able
>to
>>>incorporate the results of various "WSIS-related"
>meetings.
>>This is in
>>>contrast to the Phase I process, which did not allow for
>the
>>regional
>>>consultations to be directly inputted into the draft summit
>>texts.  In
>>>addition, it leaves vague the notion of which meetings
>>actually might
>>>be included, since "WSIS-related" could be interpreted
>quite
>>broadly,
>>>perhaps including meetings organized by the private sector,
>>civil
>>>society, academia, etc.
>>>
>>>Presumably the final documents will take the form of a
>>political
>>>declaration and an action-oriented document.
>>>
>>>For civil society, this represents perhaps a gain and
>>perhaps a loss in
>>>terms of our ability to monitor and contribute to the
>>drafting process.
>>>   A "friends of the chair" committee would presumably be
>>closed to
>>>observers.  However a text incorporating directly thematic,
>>regional
>>>and other WSIS-related meetings might be more open to civil
>>society
>>>input, since it gives us more opportunities to make
>>contributions that
>>>in the end might end up in the summit text.
>>>
>>>Rik Panganiban
>>>===============================================
>>>RIK PANGANIBAN       Communications Coordinator
>>>
>>>Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship
>>>with the United Nations (CONGO)
>>>web: http://www.ngocongo.org
>  >>email: rik.panganiban@ngocongo.org
>>>mobile: (+1) 917-710-5524
>>_______________________________________________
>>Plenary mailing list
>>Plenary@wsis-cs.org
>>http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/plenary
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From ladymurrugarra at yahoo.es  Wed Jul  7 02:55:08 2004
From: ladymurrugarra at yahoo.es (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lady=20Murrugarra?=)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:52 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Gender Equity and Free and Open Source Software: Call for Chapter Submissions of a New Book
Message-ID: <20040707015508.62562.qmail@web11804.mail.yahoo.com>

Gender Equity and Free and Open Source Software

Call for Chapter Submissions of a New Book

In recent years, academia, non-governmental organizations, governments, and industry have become increasingly 
involved in the development of F/OSS technologies, and in analyzing the social impact of that technology in diverse 
settings, such as in developing countries, in education and in the workplace. WOWEM, a Gender Equity and F/OSS 
research and education project started by the Foundation for Sustainable Development, is sponsoring a book to be 
co-edited by Stacy Gildenston, current Director of Certification for Linux Professional Institute, and Lady Murrugarra, 
Coordinator Group Work Gender and ICTs - Per? www.concytec.gob.pe/generotics/ and Head Computer Center Instituto de Medicina Tropical Alexander von 
Humboldt - UPCH www.upch.edu.pe/tropicales .  This book aims to incorporate both empirical studies and qualitative evaluations of F/OSS 
technologies in which Gender Equity concerns have been involved.

For example:  gender and F/OSS instructional technology (computer-based teaching);  gender-based cultural factors in the 
use of F/OSS; human-F/OSS interaction and trends; the barriers of F/OSS adoption based on gender concerns; and 
gender-based organizational and work issues; as well as reviews of the broader social implications of F/OSS 
technologies in Gender Equitable development. The focus of reviews and studies submitted for publication in this section 
should reflect the book's focus on Gender Equity concerns, either by stating how F/OSS technology is relevant, or how it 
might be relevant, particularly with respect to local, regional, or international development issues.

WOWEM will accept submissions in English and Spanish, but alternate languages are welcome as approved by the 
editors. Proposals for submission must be received by August 16th, 2004 at jmcknight6655@rogers.com. We intend to 
publish all quality work as space allows. Detailed outlines and/or first drafts must be completed by September 30th, 2004, 
with the intent to have authors complete work by December 31, 2004. Alternate deadlines may be made available upon 
request.

FULL LENGTH ARTICLES
Full Length Articles can be anywhere up to approximately 5,000 words in length, including (if needed) references, 
diagrams, statistics, etc. These articles may be qualitative, quantitative, or a combination of both. The intent of the editors 
is to allow for extremely diverse submissions.

CASE STUDIES
Case Studies (up to 5,000 words) are highly regarded as material for submission. Since it is often difficult to create a 
research design that is applicable to standard quantitative statistical analysis or adequate control of variables, an 
appropriate focus can be methodologies. These methods are best described in Case Study format. The editors wish to 
encourage submissions from ALL experimental, educational, and organizational spheres. All Case Studies should 
present an adequate description of the background of the presenting problem, any methodologies used, the outcomes, 
and explanations for the outcomes observed.

SHORT PAPERS
The book will recognize that F/OSS is a diverse topic politically, geographically, and culturally. The papers can be on any 
type of research that has relevance to Gender Equity and F/OSS. We would like to see short reports that authors may feel 
are not likely to be published as a full article, but which appears to offer intriguing, preliminary work and findings. We 
welcome both quantitative and qualitative research articles; pilot studies; non-trivial assignments done by or set for 
students; and even completely speculative papers that suggest a further avenue of study and research.

The length should be between 500-1,500 words, including any references.  Since space is at a premium include core 
details that are required to help the reader understand the main thrust of the article. The discussion should mention 
possible flaws or alternative interpretations of the results, other than the main interpretation presented by the author(s).  
This is as much to indicate to the reader that the author(s) is/are aware of these possible flaws and alternative 
interpretations. It also serves to instruct for the potential to replicate work.

Creative Non-Fiction
Finally, the editors will accept short (up to 1,000 words) creative non-fiction works describing personal experiences with 
F/OSS and Gender Equity.  Space for this may be somewhat limited, and this material may be used for alternate media, 
such as on the WOWEM website.

Regards,
 
Stacy Gildenston / Lady Murrugarra

		
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From meigs at wanadoo.fr  Thu Jul  8 07:30:18 2004
From: meigs at wanadoo.fr (Meigs)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:52 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] WSIS-Hammamet: Education family and working group report
Message-ID: <BD12B69A.7902%meigs@wanadoo.fr>

EDUCATION FAMILY REPORT

 
The education family met as a working group twice in Hammamet  (Prepcom 1),
on the 25 and 26 of June 2004. To give more visibility to education
activities, several points/needs were  raised on the agenda :
1)    The need to create an education family working group
The second phase of the Summit is different from the first one, where most
of our members were involved in drafting activities. This phase is about
implementation, taking the Action Plan as a guideline. This working group
could be organized around a steering committee with clearly defined missions
and responsibilities around education and research  issues.
            
2)     The need to identify state of the art practices in the field of
education, training and research. Education is not a late-comer in the field
of information society. Many experiences adapted to local needs exist around
the world. Various people in Hammamet presented their projects to the
working group and a lot of activities are going on. What is needed is to
identify them more clearly and to see how they can be transferable. Beyond
that  be to compile a list of projects and organizations  that are working
in this specific field, to make the data available worldwide and to showcase
some original programs in a WSIS-related event. I will issue a questionnaire
in September to help locate organizations and activities.

 

3)    The need to prioritize issues and determine what can be done in the
short term (until Tunis 2005) and in the longer term (beyond Tunis). In
relation to the Action plan, about half the points made relate in one way or
another to education. Among the most urgent priorities identified by the
group is a major focus on the development of long distance training
materials. it would seem a useful time to get a few people together working
in this area to see where syngergies and collaboration might be beneficial.
Several partners have already joined this process with enthusiasm : APC,
MENTOR, IAMCR, ICDE, present at Hammamet. This list is not closed and
everybody is invited to join.
The idea would be to capitalize on initiatives such as the ITRAINOnline
initiative, the UNESCO   funded MultiMedia Training kit project and the FAO
funded IMARC initiative. They present the advantage of working with the open
source community  which has developed methodologies and standards that could
be carried further.
 
4) The need to identify other entities, families and sectors to work with
us, in synergy and in partnerships. It is apparent  that a variety of actors
can enter the process : there is room  both  for well established NGOs in
the field and emerging forces,  directly and recently brought about by the
web and the information revolution. Among someof the actors that were
invited to attend the working group session, there was UNESCO, in the person
of Axel Plathe. UNESCO has expressed the wish to work with NGOs on the
education issues and it has already discussed this with the liaison
committee of its affiliated network of NGOs. It would like to develop
thematic meetings for exchanges of good practices and has developed a fund
available for such projects and partnerships.
The other like-minded community is the researchers community. Francis Muguet
chair of scientific information working group and  Pr. Hoffman from CERN,
also invited to the working group, agreed to the need for more education on
ICT issues, support for open source and reflexion on research  issues, as
they are related to another sector of education, high education.   The idea
here would be to have a conference  or a thematic event uniting researchers
in the humanities (especially social uses of media and ICTs) and in the hard
sciences (including engineers), to discuss issues of research and
development, and to improve the teaching of the humanities and sciences in
schools. This would also be the occasion to promote a ? researchers charter
for knwoledge societies ? currently being elaborated by IAMCR (I will
circulate the document in September). Other related entities interested in
this project could be IFLA and ICA. UNESCO has also expressed its interest
in this initiative.
 
5) proposed events ahead, until the Tunis Summit (to be confirmed):
-a conference  to be held during Summit 2, in partnership with Unesco,
focusing  on the  development of long distance training materials and
showcasing some good practices. Other workshops could also be organized,
according to identified needs.
-a thematic event, around research  communities. The Tunisian Association
for Communications 
Research  might be able to host this event in Tunis, next year.
-other events where we could insert ourselves in workshops or roundtables
have to be identified by the members of the group at large. Any suggestions
are welcome.
 
Please note : a specific website will be activated in early september
<wsis-edu.org > keep your eyes peeled for postings
 
Divina Frau-Meigs, IAMCR (International Association for Media and
Communications Research)
Focal point, education and academia family and working group
meigs@wanadoo.fr
 
 


From mtintern at sangonet.org.za  Thu Jul  8 09:09:52 2004
From: mtintern at sangonet.org.za (Refilwe)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:52 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] [WSIS THETHA] Invitation to a seminar organised by SANGOCO
Message-ID: <NGBBIBPAELKLKCDPLFHJMEHBDGAA.mtintern@sangonet.org.za>

SANGOCO Partners & Stakeholders



Re: Invitation to a seminar organised by SANGOCO



As our valued partner, we thank you for the support that you have provided
to us over the past period when we experienced difficulties. We are now on
our road to reclaiming our space, and we would not like to leave you out of
this process. We indeed are consolidating and our efforts will strengthen
civil society in the medium to long term.



SANGOCO will be organising bi-weekly seminars where its member organisation
and other identified partners will present arguments that are sure to get
discussions moving. The purpose of the seminars will be geared at Board,
management and other staff members of civil society organization, engaging
them on topical issues and addressing debates as they arise. We intend to
make this a platform for engagement of critical thinking information sharing
and building new partnerships. The first such seminar is planned as follows:




Date                : Friday,  16 July 2004

Time                : 15h00 ? 16h30

Venue              : SANGOCO Boardroom, 10th Floor Auckland House, Cnr Smit
& Biccard Street, Braamfontein

Theme             : Role of research in NGO policy development - ?What works
and what doesn?t?




In this first seminar, SANGOCO will outline how its newly appointed Policy &
Research Manager, Ms. Fayrana Shabodien will approach partnerships regarding
research and policy interventions that SANGOCO will be embarking upon.



Your presence and input is very important and critical in this initiative.
To confirm attendance, please contact Fay Shabodien at 011 ? 403 7746 or via
email at Fayrana@sangoco.org.za


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From kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de  Thu Jul  8 09:44:23 2004
From: kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Wolfgang_Kleinw=E4chter?=)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:52 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] AW: "the friends of the president" drafting group
Message-ID: 
 <ACADB74FBBEFD94795A03FDBBDE62D3706D755@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de>

Thanks Bertrand,
 
the answer to your question here is a "double strategy" on behalf of the CS. 
 
To have a Non-Voting seat on the table has a number of benefits: 
* access to information
* establishment of personal contacts
* right to speak
* public visibility
It has risks, as we know and you have explained. We can be misused, sidelined and pushed into a corner to play the "useful idiot". So you need the right people with enough self-confidence and a clear position, able to maneuvre according to the circumstances. 
 
At the same time, this is true, CS has to have an own concept which has to have a certain distance to the governmental process.  More or less this is the same like the final phase of WSIS I, when CS decided a. to continue its communication with the IG Bureau but b. to draft an own document.  Wise and experienced governmental representatives understood this move and encouraged in November 2003 privately CS to continue with its own document. At the end of the day CS said what "should be done", while governments had been able to agree only on what "could be done". And this was seen as a succesful outcome, presented in the main plenary to heads of States and governments. 
 
More or less we have to move this to the next level and to position ourselves in a right strategic way, learning from our mistakes and achievements.
 
A precondition is indeed to get more claritiy on the role and function of CS in the general process, on what CS could and should do.
 
What I propose is to to agree on something what I would call a "MPC-Strategy". 
 
MPC stands for "Monitoring, Participating, Contributing". 
 
* Monitoring means the watchdog role, to control what happens with the governmental decisions. Will they disappear, broken, irgnored etc? We should raise the alarm bell if something goes wrong and we should write a bi-annual progress report etc.
 
* Participating means continuous involvment in official and non-official discussions and - as much as possible - negotiations. This includes membership in WGIG, Finance Taks Force, PrepCom2, Thematic meetings, informal groups etc. 
 
* Contributing means own initiatives and grass root actions. A lot is done around the globe by CS but most of this is invisible. We should start to to collect facts and data and to prepare a report for Tunis 2005 on concrete actions, undertaken by CS and groups close to CS, related to the implementation of the POA. This would produce also more recognition, visibility and legitimacy to call for more involvment in the governmental led decision making process.
 
Best wishes
 
wolfgang

________________________________

Von: Bertrand de LA CHAPELLE [mailto:lachapelle@openwsis.org]
Gesendet: Di 06.07.2004 12:31
An: Wolfgang Kleinw?chter
Cc: plenary@wsis-cs.org
Betreff: Re: "the friends of the president" drafting group



Dear Wolfgang,

This is certainly worth exploring.

Two comments,though :
- voting rights do not mean much when decisions are taken by
consensus; the key questions are : what guarantee that CS
amendments are going to be duly taken into account ? and
what happens if, in the end, there is no agreement on the
final declaration ?
- what are the respective benefits of drafting among
separated constituencies vs united consituencies in the
Tokyo regional conference model ? one could envisage a
general joint drafting and a final polishing and reviewing
by governments only.

These alternatives must be carefully evaluated.

Bertrand


---- Original message ----
>Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:28:24 +0200
>From: Wolfgang Kleinw?chter <kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-
halle.de> 
>Subject: AW: [WSIS CS-Plenary] "the friends of the
president" drafting group 
>To: plenary@wsis-cs.org, plenary@wsis-cs.org
>
>Dear Betrand,
>
>thanks for the careful analysis. As I proposed in an
earlier message, one "trick" could be to propose a "non-
voting liaison". The ICANN system of collaboration and
multistakeholder approach is based on this liaison principle
(the GAC and the ALAC and other communities have non-voting
liaisons in official ICANN bodies without voting rights,
that means they do not share the responsiblity for decisions
and keep their right to articulate an individual and
dissending voice).
>
>So why not propose this officially to Karklins via the
Bureau?
>
>Best
>
>wolfgang
>
>a
>
>________________________________
>
>Von: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org im Auftrag von Bertrand de
LA CHAPELLE
>Gesendet: Mo 28.06.2004 13:49
>An: plenary@wsis-cs.org
>Betreff: [WSIS CS-Plenary] "the friends of the president"
drafting group
>
>
>
>Hi Rik,
>
>You rightly identified this notion of a "friends of the
>president group" as an important novation in the process. A.
>Samassekou tried something similar in the first phase but
>encountered serious difficulties in the PrepCom2, as
>governments (in particular GRULAC if I remember well)
>considered he had no mandate for doing so and that, as a
>result, they had not been able to contribute. So his whole
>document was trashed.
>
>Drawing lessons from that painful experience, Janis Karklins
>has made sure he is given an explicit mandate this time. But
>the question of how Civil society could participate in this
>process is not closed. Quite on the contrary.
>
>Indeed, during the joint Bureaus meeting, (to which I
>participated on behalf of the Internet Governance Caucus), I
>explicitely mentionned to President Karklins this
formulation
>about a group of "friends of the President".
>
>I also recalled the statement Ralf had read that very
morning
>in the official plenary, about providing appropriate
>mechanisms for civil society to effectively contribute "in a
>timely manner" to the drafting of whatever Political
>Declaration could be planned for Tunis and our willingness
to
>be involved. I also recalled that SG Utsumi a few minutes
>earlier in his response to a previous question, had wished
>the setting up of "appropriate communication channels" with
>civil society.
>
>To my surprise, Amb. Karklins went further than I expected,
>replying straightforwardly that he could envisage having
>civil society and private sector representatives in the
group
>of friends of the President.
>
>He may have been too bold : although no government made an
>explicit remarks at that time, I do not believe they would
>accept a joint, multi-stakeholder group to facilitate
>drafting.
>
>Nor am I sure this would be in the full interest of civil
>society to be merged in one single group. Maybe a separate,
>paralel, channel would be better. It has to be evaluated
>carefully - and quickly.
>
>But two things are certain in that context :
>- the earlier good input channels are established with the
>President, the more impact there can be on the architecture
>of the final Tunis Declaration itself;
>- Amb Karklins is visibly willing to find ways to involve
>civil society in more than mere symbolic ways, and this
>notion of "friends of the President" is to consider with
>great attention.
>
>The second phase is different from the first one : the way
>the final document is going to be drafted clearly more
>structured.
>
>A priority is therefore to define how we want to be part of
>that process and lobby to get support from friendly
>governments (as was the case with the EU to solve the
>Hammamet CS Crisis)
>
>For the rest, you are right to mention that the Summit
>process must take into account not only regional and
thematic
>events but also "WSIS-related Events". This leaves the
>possibility for events organized by civil society to push a
>given theme and force it somehow on the Agenda.
>
>This is just preliminary thoughts.
>
>Best
>
>
>Bertrand
>
>
>---- Original message ----
>>Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 11:01:45 -0400
>>From: Rik Panganiban <rikp@earthlink.net>
>>Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] process for drafting of
>documents
>>To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
>>
>>COMMENTARY ON THE PRESIDENT'S PROPOSAL FOR A SUMMIT
DOCUMENT
>DRAFTING
>>PROCESS
>>
>>My understanding is that the President of the Prepcom Amb.
>Janis
>>Karklins has made quite an interesting proposal, which
>should be
>>accepted today.  He calls for a "group of friends of the
>President" in
>>consultation with regional groups to prepare a "document to
>serve as
>>the basis of negotiations" taking into account the outcomes
>of relevent
>>thematic, regional and other "WSIS-related" meetings.
>>
>>This proposal would represent a good amount of trust placed
>in the
>>President to facilitate the drafting of the main texts of
>the Summit
>>directly, as opposed to being done through a bureau or only
>through a
>>formal Prepcom process.  In Phase I, the Prepcom
President's
>own
>>drafting process was pre-empted by governments wishing to
>have more
>>direct control over the drafting.
>>
>>This also would be a evolving document that would be able
to
>>incorporate the results of various "WSIS-related"
meetings.
>This is in
>>contrast to the Phase I process, which did not allow for
the
>regional
>>consultations to be directly inputted into the draft summit
>texts.  In
>>addition, it leaves vague the notion of which meetings
>actually might
>>be included, since "WSIS-related" could be interpreted
quite
>broadly,
>>perhaps including meetings organized by the private sector,
>civil
>>society, academia, etc.
>>
>>Presumably the final documents will take the form of a
>political
>>declaration and an action-oriented document.
>>
>>For civil society, this represents perhaps a gain and
>perhaps a loss in
>>terms of our ability to monitor and contribute to the
>drafting process.
>>  A "friends of the chair" committee would presumably be
>closed to
>>observers.  However a text incorporating directly thematic,
>regional
>>and other WSIS-related meetings might be more open to civil
>society
>>input, since it gives us more opportunities to make
>contributions that
>>in the end might end up in the summit text.
>>
>>Rik Panganiban
>>===============================================
>>RIK PANGANIBAN       Communications Coordinator
>>
>>Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship
>>with the United Nations (CONGO)
>>web: http://www.ngocongo.org
>>email: rik.panganiban@ngocongo.org
>>mobile: (+1) 917-710-5524
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From info at virtualactivism.net  Thu Jul  8 10:44:20 2004
From: info at virtualactivism.net (info@virtualactivism.net)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:52 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Cairo meeting: beginning of the Arab Caucus
In-Reply-To: <1088806529.1974.125.camel@mac>
Message-ID: <000701c464d0$27558df0$6f1c723e@Marlyn>

Hello everyone. Here is the good news:
We had a meeting yesterday, July 7th, in Cairo, Egyot, for the formation
of an Arab Caucus. 
To read more [and see pictures] and read about the next steps, please go
to mengos.net 
Best wishes.
Marlyn Tadros



From beja2310 at yahoo.fr  Thu Jul  8 13:13:26 2004
From: beja2310 at yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?amel=20bejaoui?=)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:52 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] divesité linguistique et culturelle
In-Reply-To: <20040622155401.92360.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20040708121326.31010.qmail@web52505.mail.yahoo.com>

Cher Djilali,
 
Votre corrrespondance est dat?e du 22 juin. Je ne r?agis qu'aujourdh'ui, le 8 juillet.. C'est dire ? quel point la cr?ation l?gitime d'un un Syndicat de journalistes libres dans un pays concern? et -de surcroit- initiateur- par un SMSI, reste encore quelque chose d'"utopique". Mais nous sommes d?cid?s ? gagner la bataille. Cela prendra le temps que cela prendra.....grace ? vous tous, nous y arriverons.
Quant ? ma requete concernant la diffusion des informations notamment en fran?ais, j'avoue que j'ai mis du temps pour me d?cider ? le demander. Car, c'est encore une fois un constat d'echec quant aux efforts que nous faisons pour que le r?ve du MULTICULTURALISME, d'un vrrai "PARTENARIAT", -celui de la soci?t? civile internationale, cela s'entend- deviennent REALITE,  et soient bas?s sur un effort d'un dialogue r?el et vrai; un dialogue qui reste -h?las- encore tributaire d'une toute petite volont? de nos amis francophones qui doivent prendre exemple sur leurs chefs d'Etats dans leurs attitude avec nos dictatures. Il leur parlent dans la langue qu'ils comprennent. Nous savons tous pourquoi, et cela marche. Oui, je partage tout ? fait ton sentiment et te remercie au nom de tous les francophones qui demeurent attach?s ? cette autre CULTURE tout en essayant d'acc?der ? d'autres, car il n'est pas question que l'imp?rialisme, dont vous parlez, celui des nations contamine la soci?t?
  civile.
 Soyons capables de rester une m?me famille.
 
Sinc?rement
Amel Bejaoui
ATFD, AI (section tunisienne),CMP 06 Nice et surtout Syndicat des journalistes Tunisiens n? le 26 mai. Tout juste.
 

djilali benamrane <dbenamrane@yahoo.com> wrote:

Merci Amel pour ce message, pour cette r?clamation
pertinente.
Cela fait des mois, qu'? la ris?e de beaucoup, y
compris des fran?ais bien pensants, et des cousins
francophones bon chic bon genre qui m'ont trait? de
tous les noms, je r?clame la traduction des messages
en Fran?ais pour assurer une accessessibilit? aux
fancophones non englophones, sp?cialement pour mes
amis africains et magr?bins.
J'ai eu beaucoup d'ambition pour que l'imp?rialisme
des anglophones que nous avons subi ? Gen?ve s'estompe
un peu ? Tunis, malheureusement on pr?che dans le
d?sert... et il en sera ainsi ! Amen ! 
Il faut faire l'effort que les autres ne veulent pas
faire et diffuser des r?sum?s ou des alertes.
Amiti?s
Djilali 

--- amel bejaoui wrote:
> Ch?re Elizabeth,
> 
> Puis je S.V.P avoir une version fran?aise de ce qui
> suit.
> 
> Cela aidera ?norm?ment ? notre syndicat de mieux
> comprendre poour une implication efficiente.
> 
> Respects
> Amel Bejaoui
> Syndicat des journalistes tunisiens (Ind?pendant)
> 
> "Elizabeth Carll, PhD" wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> Best wishes for a productive and successful meeting.
> I hope to be able to
> join you at future meetings.
> 
> If you are interested in joining the Health and ICT
> Working Group please,
> contact me and also include a brief description of
> your areas of interest.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Elizabeth
> 
> Dr. Elizabeth Carll
> Focal Point
> International Society for Traumatic Stress Studies;
> Chair Media/ICT Working Group
> NGO Committee on Mental Health, New York;
> Tel: 1-631-754-2424
> Fax: 1-631-754-5032
> ecarll@optonline.net
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org
> [mailto:plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org]On Behalf
> Of Rik Panganiban
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 4:03 AM
> To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
> Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Updates on WSIS prepcom I
> 
> 
> Dear Friends,
> 
> We will do our best to send out news from the
> Prepcom to the listserv and
> posted to our websites. I will be posting news to
> http://wsis-online/csnews
> as well.
> 
> Nous envoyerons les nouvelles de la Prepcom ? le
> listserv et ? notre
> websites. Je vais post? les nouvelles ?
> http://wsis-online/csnews aussi.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rik Panganiban
> Communications Coordinator
> CONGO
> 
> ===============================================
> RIK PANGANIBAN Communications Coordinator
> 
> Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship
> with the United Nations (CONGO)
> web: http://www.ngocongo.org
> email: rik.panganiban@ngocongo.org
> mobile: (+1) 917-710-5524
> 
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From james.archibald at mcgill.ca  Thu Jul  8 15:58:06 2004
From: james.archibald at mcgill.ca (Jak Archibald)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:52 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] WSIS-Hammamet: Education family and working group report
In-Reply-To: <BD12B69A.7902%meigs@wanadoo.fr>
Message-ID: <001b01c464fb$fbed0540$17ecce84@mcgill.ca>

Dear Colleagues,

With respect to the "synergy of partnerships", some of those in the
Education Family may be interested in the colloquium described below.
Please note that French is the official language of the colloquium.

The proceedings of the previous colloquium on localization are now in
press and will be available in the third trimester of 2004. Reference:
Archibald, J. dir. La localisation, probl?matique de la formation.
MONTR?AL: Linguatech ?diteur, 2004 (in press). This text includes papers
by the following contributors: Dyane Adam (Commissaire aux langues
officielles, Canada), Marc Charron (Universit? du Qu?bec en Outaouais),
Mathieu Guid?re (Universit? Lumi?re Lyon 2 et CREC St-Cyr), Daniel
Gouadec (Universit? Rennes 2 Haute Bretagne), Jean Quirion (Universit?
du Qu?bec en Outaouais), Marie Trincaretto (Institut Libre Marie Haps -
Bruxelles) et moi-m?me.

Please feel free to disseminate this information as you see fit.

Best regards,

J. Archibald

************************************************************************
*****************

La localisation sur la Toile

30 juin 2004  

L'UFR en traduction de l'Universit? McGill vient de lancer son appel ?
communication ? l'intention de tous ceux qui voudraient participer au
deuxi?me colloque international sur la localisation qui se tiendra ?
cette universit? en octobre 2004. 

D'apr?s LISA (la Localization Industry Standards Association), la
localisation consiste en l'adaptation culturelle et linguistique d'un
objet compte tenu du contexte dans lequel il servira.

Vu la grande r?ussite d'un premier colloque tenu en 2002 sur la
formation des localisateurs, c'est-?-dire les langagiers professionnels
dans le domaine de la localisation, le colloque de 2004 aura comme point
de mire les politiques, strat?gies et pratiques mises en application
dans la localisation de cet espace de communication de plus en plus 
omnipr?sent : le site Web. 

Les participants ?tudieront des sites institutionnels r?gis par les
organismes et pouvoirs publics francophones, bilingues et plurilingues
entre autres ainsi que des sites commerciaux cr??s par les soci?t?s
multinationales. Des exemples tir?s du commerce ?lectronique et de la
publicit? sur Internet viendront illustrer ces expos?s. On s'int?ressera
surtout aux politiques en mati?re de langue, de traduction et de
communication qui influencent de nos jours la copr?sence de diverses
langues sur la Toile. Il sera principalement question de l'emploi du
fran?ais sur la Toile et des rapports entre cette langue et d'autres que
l'on retrouve dans cette agora moderne. 

L'?tude et l'analyse de sites Web localis?s informeront la description
et l'explication des politiques et pratiques linguistiques dans cette ?
zone sensible ?. Ces questions seront ?tudi?es ? la lumi?re des
politiques linguistiques et des strat?gies de communication qui prennent
forme progressivement dans le contexte d'un mouvement international
destin? ? mieux d?finir ? les soci?t?s de l'information, de la
communication et du savoir ? d'aujourd?hui et de demain. 

Source :
Orbicom  http://www.orbicom.uqam.ca/index_fr.html

Personne-ressource :
J. Archibald
UFR en traduction
Universit? McGill
514-398-8225



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From: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org [mailto:plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org] On
Behalf Of Meigs
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 2:30 AM
To: plenary@wsis-cs.org; Frank Morgan; Ole Prehn
Cc: hans.falk.hoffmann@cern.ch; b.loing@noos.fr; A.Plathe@unesco.org;
Monique.Fouilhoux@ei-ie.org; JMTORNERO@telefonica.net; OETI
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] WSIS-Hammamet: Education family and working
group report


EDUCATION FAMILY REPORT

 
The education family met as a working group twice in Hammamet  (Prepcom
1), on the 25 and 26 of June 2004. To give more visibility to education
activities, several points/needs were  raised on the agenda :
1)    The need to create an education family working group
The second phase of the Summit is different from the first one, where
most of our members were involved in drafting activities. This phase is
about implementation, taking the Action Plan as a guideline. This
working group could be organized around a steering committee with
clearly defined missions and responsibilities around education and
research  issues.
            
2)     The need to identify state of the art practices in the field of
education, training and research. Education is not a late-comer in the
field of information society. Many experiences adapted to local needs
exist around the world. Various people in Hammamet presented their
projects to the working group and a lot of activities are going on. What
is needed is to identify them more clearly and to see how they can be
transferable. Beyond that  be to compile a list of projects and
organizations  that are working in this specific field, to make the data
available worldwide and to showcase some original programs in a
WSIS-related event. I will issue a questionnaire in September to help
locate organizations and activities.

 

3)    The need to prioritize issues and determine what can be done in
the
short term (until Tunis 2005) and in the longer term (beyond Tunis). In
relation to the Action plan, about half the points made relate in one
way or another to education. Among the most urgent priorities identified
by the group is a major focus on the development of long distance
training materials. it would seem a useful time to get a few people
together working in this area to see where syngergies and collaboration
might be beneficial. Several partners have already joined this process
with enthusiasm : APC, MENTOR, IAMCR, ICDE, present at Hammamet. This
list is not closed and everybody is invited to join. The idea would be
to capitalize on initiatives such as the ITRAINOnline
initiative, the UNESCO   funded MultiMedia Training kit project and the
FAO
funded IMARC initiative. They present the advantage of working with the
open source community  which has developed methodologies and standards
that could be carried further.
 
4) The need to identify other entities, families and sectors to work
with us, in synergy and in partnerships. It is apparent  that a variety
of actors can enter the process : there is room  both  for well
established NGOs in the field and emerging forces,  directly and
recently brought about by the web and the information revolution. Among
someof the actors that were invited to attend the working group session,
there was UNESCO, in the person of Axel Plathe. UNESCO has expressed the
wish to work with NGOs on the education issues and it has already
discussed this with the liaison committee of its affiliated network of
NGOs. It would like to develop thematic meetings for exchanges of good
practices and has developed a fund available for such projects and
partnerships. The other like-minded community is the researchers
community. Francis Muguet chair of scientific information working group
and  Pr. Hoffman from CERN, also invited to the working group, agreed to
the need for more education on ICT issues, support for open source and
reflexion on research  issues, as
they are related to another sector of education, high education.   The
idea
here would be to have a conference  or a thematic event uniting
researchers in the humanities (especially social uses of media and ICTs)
and in the hard sciences (including engineers), to discuss issues of
research and development, and to improve the teaching of the humanities
and sciences in schools. This would also be the occasion to promote a ?
researchers charter for knwoledge societies ? currently being elaborated
by IAMCR (I will circulate the document in September). Other related
entities interested in this project could be IFLA and ICA. UNESCO has
also expressed its interest in this initiative.
 
5) proposed events ahead, until the Tunis Summit (to be confirmed): -a
conference  to be held during Summit 2, in partnership with Unesco,
focusing  on the  development of long distance training materials and
showcasing some good practices. Other workshops could also be organized,
according to identified needs. -a thematic event, around research
communities. The Tunisian Association for Communications 
Research  might be able to host this event in Tunis, next year. -other
events where we could insert ourselves in workshops or roundtables have
to be identified by the members of the group at large. Any suggestions
are welcome.
 
Please note : a specific website will be activated in early september
<wsis-edu.org > keep your eyes peeled for postings
 
Divina Frau-Meigs, IAMCR (International Association for Media and
Communications Research) Focal point, education and academia family and
working group meigs@wanadoo.fr
 
 

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From annette.muehlberg at verdi.de  Thu Jul  8 16:07:41 2004
From: annette.muehlberg at verdi.de (Muehlberg, Annette)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:52 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Resoulution and information by Tunesian Human Rights League franc
 ais et arabic
Message-ID: <A52EA7C9607FD5118E1A001018000BAF0B7CBE1F@buvoex01.hv.hv01.verdi.int>

Hi, 

the following informations where distributed by the Tunesian Human Rights
League at Prep Com 1 in Hammamed. I got them for you in digital version. It
would be helpful if you published them on your websites.

thank you and I wish you all the best

Annette Muehlberg






 <<ltdh Tunisia m?dia under watch 2004 .doc>>  <<ltdh Tunisie medias sous
surveillance  2004 version fran?aise.doc>>  <<ltdh Tunisie medias sous
surveillance 2004 version arabe.doc>>  <<ltdh rapport la presse sinistree
2003  traduc englaise.doc>>  <<ltdh Rapport une presse sinistr?e 2003 en
Fran?ais .doc>>  <<Resolution adopted by the Tunisian Civil Society
RepresentaR?solution SMSI anglais.doc>>  <<R?solution des Repr?sentants de
la soci?t? civile SMSI juin 04.doc>> 

___________________________________
Annette M?hlberg
Leiterin des Referats eGovernment,
Neue Medien, Verwaltungsmodernisierung
FB 7, ver.di Bundesvorstand
Potsdamer Platz 10
10785 Berlin
Germany

Fon: +49 30 6956-2244

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From: ljeffrey at ecommons.net (Liss Jeffrey)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:52 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] More questions on Tunis and freedom of expression
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INDEX on Censorship at www.indexonline.org
Index on Censorship - UK
... calls for the United Nations to think again about its choice of Tunis
as the location for the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS)
scheduled for ...
<http://www.indexonline.org/news/20040707_tunisia.shtml>

[snip]

Tunisia: Clampdown on the internet continues

Brings new meaning to
the phrase ?web search'

An appeal court has upheld what local and international observers say are 
?unjustified sentences' handed down to young web users, picked up in a raid 
on a web caf? in the Tunisian city of Zarzis as they browsed Islamist 
websites . For them the case is just more evidence of the country's 
intransigence on the issue of free expression and the internet ? and calls 
into question the UN's plans to host a global summit on information 
technology in Tunis in late 2005.

Tunisia has given a dismissive reply to the international free expression 
community's concern for the fate of a group of young internet users, 
sentenced for supposed terror offences in the southern city of Zarzis .

Despite the close scrutiny of free expression groups including Index on 
Censorship, an appeals court upheld draconian sentences handed down to a 
group of young web users in Zarzis, jailed for "delinquency, theft and 
obtaining material to make bombs" as a result of consulting so-called 
"terrorist" websites. Their lawyer says they have been tortured.

[snip]


From accuosto at chasque.net  Thu Jul  8 18:37:15 2004
From: accuosto at chasque.net (Pablo Accuosto)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:52 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Resoulution and information by Tunesian Human Rights League franc ais et arabic
References: <A52EA7C9607FD5118E1A001018000BAF0B7CBE1F@buvoex01.hv.hv01.verdi.int>
Message-ID: <029d01c46512$3ae947c0$4704a8c0@paullier.net>

Dear Annette,

Thank you for these valuable reports. We have published "Media under watch"
in english in our website: www.choike.org and will publish the others asap.

Pablo Accuosto
accuosto@chasque.net


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Muehlberg, Annette" <annette.muehlberg@verdi.de>
To: <plenary@wsis-cs.org>; "Bertrand de LA CHAPELLE (E-Mail)"
<lachapelle@openwsis.org>; "Ralf Bendrath (E-Mail)"
<bendrath@zedat.fu-berlin.de>; <wsis@ilpostino.jpberlin.de>
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 12:07 PM
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Resoulution and information by Tunesian Human
Rights League franc ais et arabic


Hi,

the following informations where distributed by the Tunesian Human Rights
League at Prep Com 1 in Hammamed. I got them for you in digital version. It
would be helpful if you published them on your websites.

thank you and I wish you all the best

Annette Muehlberg






 <<ltdh Tunisia m?dia under watch 2004 .doc>>  <<ltdh Tunisie medias sous
surveillance  2004 version fran?aise.doc>>  <<ltdh Tunisie medias sous
surveillance 2004 version arabe.doc>>  <<ltdh rapport la presse sinistree
2003  traduc englaise.doc>>  <<ltdh Rapport une presse sinistr?e 2003 en
Fran?ais .doc>>  <<Resolution adopted by the Tunisian Civil Society
RepresentaR?solution SMSI anglais.doc>>  <<R?solution des Repr?sentants de
la soci?t? civile SMSI juin 04.doc>>

___________________________________
Annette M?hlberg
Leiterin des Referats eGovernment,
Neue Medien, Verwaltungsmodernisierung
FB 7, ver.di Bundesvorstand
Potsdamer Platz 10
10785 Berlin
Germany

Fon: +49 30 6956-2244



From ladymurrugarra at yahoo.es  Fri Jul  9 01:53:39 2004
From: ladymurrugarra at yahoo.es (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lady=20Murrugarra?=)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] "Call_for_Papers_on_Gender_and_F/OSS_(English_and_Español)
In-Reply-To: <00a401c46510$05e98a50$6601a8c0@glenn>
Message-ID: <20040709005339.92954.qmail@web11801.mail.yahoo.com>


Hello everyone,
 
The Foundation for Building Sustainable Communities is initiating a project focusing on gender equity and open source. The Women Open World Empowerment Movement (WOWEM) is a timely project addressing the needs of women in technology, with a focus on equity and empowerment. The project's initial focus is hearing from women in the field. The submissions will be compiled in a book and presented at the technology conference to be held in Peru. We look forward to your response and as well as a successful launch of the
book. 

Below you will find the outlines in both English and Espa?ol. We look forward to you submissions. The due date is August 16, 2004. 

The editors are Lady Murrugarra and Stacy Gildenston.

Regards,

The WOWEM Team

Joan Kerr & Stacy Gildenston

jmcknight6655@rogers.com 

(905-434-6655)

Web site: www.wowem.org 

Espa?ol version: Below

Fran?ais version: To Follow

WOWEM NEWS

Gender Equity and Free and Open Source Software
Call for Chapter Submissions of a New Book

In recent years, academia, non-governmental organizations,
governments, and industry have become increasingly
involved in the development of F/OSS technologies, and in analyzing the social impact of that technology in diverse
settings, such as in developing countries, in education and in the workplace. WOWEM, a Gender Equity and F/OSS
research and education project started by the The Foundation for Building Sustainable Communities, is sponsoring a
book to be co-edited by Stacy Gildenston, current Director of
Certification for Linux Professional Institute www.lpi.org , and Lady
Murrugarra, Coordinator Group Work Gender and ICTs www.concytec.gob.pe/generotics  - Per? and Head Computer Center Instituto de Medicina Tropical Alexander von Humboldt - UPCH www.upch.edu.pe/tropicales

This book aims to incorporate both empirical studies and qualitative evaluations of
F/OSS technologies in which Gender Equity concerns have been involved.

For example: gender and F/OSS instructional technology
(computer-based teaching); gender-based cultural factors in the
use of F/OSS; human-F/OSS interaction and trends; the barriers of F/OSS adoption based on gender concerns; and gender-based organizational and work issues; as well as reviews of  the broader social implications of F/OSS technologies in Gender Equitable development. The focus of reviews and studies submitted for publication in this section
should reflect the book's focus on Gender Equity concerns, either by stating how F/OSS technology is relevant, or how it might be relevant, particularly with respect to local, regional, or international development issues.

WOWEM will accept submissions in English and Spanish, but alternate languages are welcome as approved by the
editors. Proposals for submission must be received by August 16th, 2004 at jmcknight6655@rogers.com. We intend to
publish all quality work as space allows. Detailed outlines and/or first drafts must be completed by September 30th, 2004,
with the intent to have authors complete work by December 31, 2004. Alternate deadlines may be made available upon
request.

FULL LENGTH ARTICLES
Full Length Articles can be anywhere up to approximately 5,000 words in length, including (if needed) references, diagrams, statistics, etc. These articles may be qualitative, quantitative, or a combination of both. The intent of the editors is to allow for extremely diverse submissions. 

CASE STUDIES
Case Studies (up to 5,000 words) are highly regarded as material for submission. Since it is often difficult to create a
research design that is applicable to standard quantitative
statistical analysis or adequate control of variables, an
appropriate focus can be methodologies. These methods are best described in Case Study format. The editors wish to
encourage submissions from ALL experimental, educational, and organizational spheres. All Case Studies should
present an adequate description of the background of the presenting problem, any methodologies used, the outcomes,
and explanations for the outcomes observed.

SHORT PAPERS
The book will recognize that F/OSS is a diverse topic politically,
geographically, and culturally. The papers can be on any
type of research that has relevance to Gender Equity and F/OSS. We would like to see short reports that authors may feel are not likely to be published as a full article, but which appears to offer intriguing, preliminary work and findings. We
welcome both quantitative and qualitative research articles; pilot
studies; non-trivial assignments done by or set for
students; and even completely speculative papers that suggest a further avenue of study and research.

The length should be between 500-1,500 words, including any
references. Since space is at a premium include core
details that are required to help the reader understand the main
thrust of the article. The discussion should mention
possible flaws or alternative interpretations of the results, other
than the main interpretation presented by the author(s).
This is as much to indicate to the reader that the author(s) is/are aware of these possible flaws and alternative
interpretations. It also serves to instruct for the potential to
replicate work.

Creative Non-Fiction
Finally, the editors will accept short (up to 1,000 words) creative
non-fiction works describing personal experiences with
F/OSS and Gender Equity. Space for this may be somewhat limited, and this material may be used for alternate media,
such as on the WOWEM website.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Espa?ol: Version

NOTICIAS DE WOWEM

Equidad en G?nero y Software de Acceso Abierto y Gratuito
Llamado para Sumisi?n de Cap?tulos de un Libro Nuevo

En los ?ltimos a?os, el sector de educaci?n, las organizaciones no gubernamentales, los gobiernos, y las industrias han comenzado a estar m?s envueltos en el desarrollo de tecnolog?as F/OSS, y en analizar el impacto social de esta tecnolog?a en diferentes entornos, como por ejemplo en pa?ses en v?as de desarrollo, en educaci?n y en el lugar de trabajo. WOWEM, un proyecto de investigaci?n y educaci?n en Equidad de G?nero y F/OSS empez? por La Fundaci?n para Construcci?n de Comunidades Sostenibles, est? avalando el desarrollo de un libro que ser? coeditado por Stacy Gildenston, actualmente Directora de Certificaci?n del Instituto Profesional de Linux www.lpi.org, y Lady Murrugarra, Coordinadora del Grupo de Trabajo de G?nero y ICTs-Per? www.concytec.gob.pe/generotics  y Jefa del Centro de Computo del Instituto de Medicina Tropical Alexander von Humboldt - UPCH www.upch.edu.pe/tropicales . 

Este libro apunta a incorporar estudios emp?ricos y evaluaciones cualitativas de tecnolog?as F/OSS en los que las preocupaciones de Equidad de G?nero han sido consideradas.

Por Ejemplo: g?nero y tecnolog?a F/OSS instructiva (ense?anza basado en computadoras); factores culturales de g?nero
en el uso de F/OSS; interacciones humanas-F/OSS y las tendencias; las barreras para adoptar F/OSS basadas en
preocupaciones de g?nero; y problemas de trabajo y organizacionales basados en g?nero; as? como tambi?n revisiones de implicaciones sociales m?s amplias de tecnolog?as F/OSS en el desarrollo de Equidad de G?nero. El enfoque de las revisiones y estudios sometidos para publicaci?n en esta secci?n deber?a reflejar el enfoque del libro en preocupaciones de Equidad de G?nero, ya sea estableciendo como las tecnolog?as F/OSS
son relevantes, o como deber?a de ser relevantes, particularmente con respecto a los problemas de desarrollo
local, regional o internacional.

WOWEM aceptar? sumisiones en ingl?s y espa?ol, pero idiomas alternativos son bienvenidos una vez que sean aprobados por los editores. Las propuestas de sumisi?n ser?n aceptadas hasta agosto 16 del 2004 en mcknight6655@rogers.com. Nuestra intenci?n es publicar todos los trabajos de calidad que el tiempo nos lo permita.
Detalles de los delineamientos y primeros borradores deber?n ser completados antes de septiembre 30 del 2004, con la intenci?n de que los autores completen el trabajo para diciembre 31 del 2004. Fechas l?mites alternativas podr?an estar a disposici?n si se solicitaran.

ARTICULOS COMPLETOS
Los Art?culos Completos pueden ser de hasta 5,000 palabras de tama?o,incluyendo (si fuera necesario) referencias,
diagramas, estad?sticas, etc. Estos art?culos podr?an ser
cualitativos, cuantitativos, o una combinaci?n de ambos. La
intenci?n de los editores es la de permitir sumisiones extremadamente diversas.

ESTUDIOS DE CASOS
Los estudios de casos (hasta 5,000 palabras) son altamente
recomendados como material de sumisi?n. Debido a que
es frecuentemente dif?cil de crear investigaci?n que es aplicable a los est?ndares de an?lisis estad?sticos cuantitativos o
control adecuado de variables, un enfoque apropiado puede ser
metodolog?as. Estos m?todos est?n bien descritos en
formatos de Estudio de Casos. El deseo de los editores es incentivar la sumisi?n de TODAS las esferas
experimentales, educacionales y organizacionales. Todos los estudios de casos deber?n ser presentados con una
descripci?n adecuada de los antecedentes del problema planteado, cualquier metodolog?a usada, los resultados, y las
explicaciones de los resultados observados.

ARTICULOS CORTOS
El libro reconoce que F/OSS es t?pico pol?ticamente, geogr?ficamente y culturalmente diverso. Los art?culos podr?an ser sobre cualquier tipo de investigaci?n que tenga relevancia en Equidad de G?nero y F/OSS. Nos gustar?a ver reportes
cortos que los autores piensen que no tienen probabilidades de ser publicados como art?culos completos, pero que
parecen proveer resultados y trabajos preliminares intrigantes. Son bienvenidos ambos art?culos de investigaci?n
cualitativos y cuantitativos; estudios pilotos; asignaciones no
triviales hechas o establecidas por estudiantes; o incluso
art?culos especulativos completos que podr?an sugerir nuevas avenidas de estudio e investigaci?n.

Tama?o del articulo deber? ser entre 500 a 1500 palabras, incluyendo referencias. Ya que el espacio es costoso, incluir
detalles centrales que son necesarios para que el lector entienda la premisa principal del art?culo. La discusi?n deber?
mencionar posibles limitaciones o interpretaciones alternativas de los resultados que no sean la interpretaci?n principal
del autor(es). Esto es importante para indicarle al lector que el
autor(es) esta conciente de las posibles limitaciones as?
como posibles interpretaciones alternativas. Tambi?n sirve como instrucci?n para potenciales r?plicas del trabajo.

Trabajos Creativos No Ficci?n
Finalmente, los editores aceptaran trabajos cortos (hasta 1,000
palabras) creativos no-ficci?n describiendo experiencias
personales con F/OSS y Equidad de G?nero. El espacio para estos podr?a ser limitado, y este material podr?a ser usado
en medios alternativos, como en el Web site de WOWEM.









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Lady V. Murrugarra V.
www.upch.edu.pe/tropicales
www.concytec.gob.pe/generotics/ 
www.galenonet.com/CYTED/
Oficina: 511-4823910, 4823903 anexo 15
Celular: 511-99519920
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From annette at nnm-ev.de  Fri Jul  9 13:03:49 2004
From: annette at nnm-ev.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Annette_M=FChlberg?=)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Resoulution and information by Tunesian Human Rights League franc ais et arabic
In-Reply-To: <029d01c46512$3ae947c0$4704a8c0@paullier.net>
References: <A52EA7C9607FD5118E1A001018000BAF0B7CBE1F@buvoex01.hv.hv01.verdi.int>
        <029d01c46512$3ae947c0$4704a8c0@paullier.net>
Message-ID: <36260.62.225.52.202.1089374629.squirrel@www.werk21system.de>

Thank you for this information.
It would be nice, if all of you who put these documents on their websites
could inform me (not necessarily by plenary list). This gives me the
chance to inform the Tunesian Human Rightsl League about the support the
receive world wide by publishing their documents.
kind regards
annette


> Dear Annette,
>
> Thank you for these valuable reports. We have published "Media under
> watch" in english in our website: www.choike.org and will publish the
> others asap.
>
> Pablo Accuosto
> accuosto@chasque.net
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Muehlberg, Annette" <annette.muehlberg@verdi.de>
> To: <plenary@wsis-cs.org>; "Bertrand de LA CHAPELLE (E-Mail)"
> <lachapelle@openwsis.org>; "Ralf Bendrath (E-Mail)"
> <bendrath@zedat.fu-berlin.de>; <wsis@ilpostino.jpberlin.de>
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 12:07 PM
> Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Resoulution and information by Tunesian Human
> Rights League franc ais et arabic
>
>
> Hi,
>
> the following informations where distributed by the Tunesian Human
> Rights League at Prep Com 1 in Hammamed. I got them for you in digital
> version. It would be helpful if you published them on your websites.
>
> thank you and I wish you all the best
>
> Annette Muehlberg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  <<ltdh Tunisia m?dia under watch 2004 .doc>>  <<ltdh Tunisie medias
> sous
> surveillance  2004 version fran?aise.doc>>  <<ltdh Tunisie medias sous
> surveillance 2004 version arabe.doc>>  <<ltdh rapport la presse
> sinistree 2003  traduc englaise.doc>>  <<ltdh Rapport une presse
> sinistr?e 2003 en Fran?ais .doc>>  <<Resolution adopted by the Tunisian
> Civil Society RepresentaR?solution SMSI anglais.doc>>  <<R?solution des
> Repr?sentants de la soci?t? civile SMSI juin 04.doc>>
>
> ___________________________________
> Annette M?hlberg
> Leiterin des Referats eGovernment,
> Neue Medien, Verwaltungsmodernisierung
> FB 7, ver.di Bundesvorstand
> Potsdamer Platz 10
> 10785 Berlin
> Germany
>
> Fon: +49 30 6956-2244
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Plenary mailing list
> Plenary@wsis-cs.org
> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/plenary






From info at virtualactivism.net  Fri Jul  9 20:00:04 2004
From: info at virtualactivism.net (info@virtualactivism.net)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Resoulution and information by Tunesian Human Rights League franc ais et arabic
In-Reply-To: <36260.62.225.52.202.1089374629.squirrel@www.werk21system.de>
Message-ID: <000701c465e6$fa399e20$661c723e@Marlyn>

It is on mengos.net too, in all three languages. 

Marlyn Tadros, Ph.D
Executive Director
Virtual Activism
http://www.virtualactivism.org


-----Original Message-----
From: Annette M?hlberg [mailto:annette@nnm-ev.de] 
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 8:04 AM
To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
Subject: Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Resoulution and information by Tunesian
Human Rights League franc ais et arabic

Thank you for this information.
It would be nice, if all of you who put these documents on their
websites
could inform me (not necessarily by plenary list). This gives me the
chance to inform the Tunesian Human Rightsl League about the support the
receive world wide by publishing their documents.
kind regards
annette


> Dear Annette,
>
> Thank you for these valuable reports. We have published "Media under
> watch" in english in our website: www.choike.org and will publish the
> others asap.
>
> Pablo Accuosto
> accuosto@chasque.net
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Muehlberg, Annette" <annette.muehlberg@verdi.de>
> To: <plenary@wsis-cs.org>; "Bertrand de LA CHAPELLE (E-Mail)"
> <lachapelle@openwsis.org>; "Ralf Bendrath (E-Mail)"
> <bendrath@zedat.fu-berlin.de>; <wsis@ilpostino.jpberlin.de>
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 12:07 PM
> Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Resoulution and information by Tunesian
Human
> Rights League franc ais et arabic
>
>
> Hi,
>
> the following informations where distributed by the Tunesian Human
> Rights League at Prep Com 1 in Hammamed. I got them for you in digital
> version. It would be helpful if you published them on your websites.
>
> thank you and I wish you all the best
>
> Annette Muehlberg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  <<ltdh Tunisia m?dia under watch 2004 .doc>>  <<ltdh Tunisie medias
> sous
> surveillance  2004 version fran?aise.doc>>  <<ltdh Tunisie medias sous
> surveillance 2004 version arabe.doc>>  <<ltdh rapport la presse
> sinistree 2003  traduc englaise.doc>>  <<ltdh Rapport une presse
> sinistr?e 2003 en Fran?ais .doc>>  <<Resolution adopted by the
Tunisian
> Civil Society RepresentaR?solution SMSI anglais.doc>>  <<R?solution
des
> Repr?sentants de la soci?t? civile SMSI juin 04.doc>>
>
> ___________________________________
> Annette M?hlberg
> Leiterin des Referats eGovernment,
> Neue Medien, Verwaltungsmodernisierung
> FB 7, ver.di Bundesvorstand
> Potsdamer Platz 10
> 10785 Berlin
> Germany
>
> Fon: +49 30 6956-2244
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Plenary mailing list
> Plenary@wsis-cs.org
> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/plenary





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From adavidziuk at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 10 06:15:25 2004
From: adavidziuk at yahoo.com (alejandra davidziuk)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] crisinfo.org - WSIS summary / CMSI compendio
Message-ID: <20040710051525.74547.qmail@web12007.mail.yahoo.com>

This Digest offers you a summary of the second phase
of WSIS.

Este Digest le ofrece un compendio acerca de la
segunda fase de la CMSI.

TUNIS PHASE – PrepCom-1 (24-26 June, 2004): 
The road to Tunis entails a process of monitoring and
evaluation of the progress of feasible actions laid
out in the Geneva Plan and a concrete set of
deliverables that must be achieved by the time the
Summit meets again in Tunis from 16 to 18 of November,
2005. 
- Official documents, contributions, and speeches of
the Preparatory Meeting 
- A press release summarizing the results of the
Prepcom-1
- The final document released at the end of the
Prepcom-1 
- Official summaries of the plenary discussions during
PrepCom-1
- Outcomes / Official decisions
http://www.crisinfo.org/content/view/full/315/

TUNIS PHASE (16-18 Noviembre 2005): 
El camino hacia Túnez exige monitorear y evaluar la
factibilidad de las acciones presentadas en el Plan de
Ginebra y delinear un sistema concreto de decisiones
que deberán ser alcanzadas para cuando la Cumbre se
reúna nuevamente en Túnez en noviembre de 2005.
- Documentos oficiales, contribuciones y discursos de
la Reunión Preparatoria 
- Gacetilla de prensa sintetizando los acontecimientos
de PrepCom-1 
- El documento final difundido al término de la
Prepcom-1
- Conclusiones / Decisiones oficiales 
http://www.crisinfo.org/content/view/full/316/

PREPCOM-1 DAIRY (24-26 JUNE, 2004) 
Two CRIS Members, Jose Luis Aguirre Alvis from Bolivia
and Arturo Enzo Bregaglio from Paraguay, attended
PrepCom-1 in Tunis. They highlighted the key events
with regards to Civil Society in the Summit and the
official process itself. 
http://www.crisinfo.org/content/view/full/333/

DIARIO DE LA PREPCOM-1 (24-26 Junio, 2004) 
Dos miembros de CRIS, José Luis Aguirre Alvis de
Bolivia y Arturo Enzo Bregaglio de Paraguay,
asistieron a la PrepCom-1 realizada en Túnez. A través
de sus artículos, ellos dieron sus opiniones sobre lo
acontecido a lo largo de los eventos en referencia a
las cuestiones que atañen a la Sociedad Civil y sobre
el evento oficial en sí mismo. 
http://www.crisinfo.org/content/view/full/330/

DOCUMENTS ABOUT FINANCING, COMMUNICATION, INTERNET
GOVERNANCE, AND E-STRATEGIES 
Interesting background and discussion papers produced
recently in the first Preparatory Meeting (PrepCom-1)
of the second phase of the World Summit on the
Information Society (WSIS) - Tunis 2005.
http://www.crisinfo.org/content/view/full/334/ 

MISCELÁNEAS DE LA PREPCOM-1 
Interesantes documentos de debate y análisis sobre
financiamiento, comunicación, E-Estrategia y
Gobernanza de Internet que tuvieron como contexto a la
segunda fase de la CMSI en Túnez.
http://www.crisinfo.org/content/view/full/331/

CIVIL SOCIETY BUREAU
Do you know how the Civil Society Bureau works? Take a
look about its activities during the preparatory
process that will lead to the Summit of 2005.
http://www.crisinfo.org/content/view/full/335/

EL BUREAU DE LA SOCIEDAD CIVIL (PrepCom-1/CMSI 2005)
Sepa cómo se articularon los grupos de trabajo de la
Sociedad Civil durante el proceso preparatorio que
conducirá a la Cumbre de 2005.
http://www.crisinfo.org/content/view/full/332/ 




		
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From rguerra at lists.privaterra.org  Sat Jul 10 19:10:31 2004
From: rguerra at lists.privaterra.org (Robert Guerra)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Open letter sent to latin american caucus - lessons for us all to
 learn...
Message-ID: <p06200605bd15e194a34a@[192.168.1.251]>

Dear colleagues:

Since a bit before the PrepCom in Tunis there has been an ongoing, at 
times bitter and problematic, discussion on the latin american caucus 
list related to the  issue - the passionate topic  - of Free and Open 
source software. It generated a great deal of debate. After countless 
messages -  it was necessary for key organizations to issue an "open 
letter" to refocus the aims, objectives and guidelines of the caucus.
( The "open letter" is below - in spanish.)

I commend the drafters of the open letter and sincerely wish them, 
and their caucus success and luck in the weeks and months ahead.

This shows us all that "problems" can occur anytime, anywhere, in any 
caucus. The challenge is to know how to reflect on what has happened, 
learn from the experience, and develop a potential positive solution.


regards

Robert


re: Invitaci—n a construir nueva etapa en caucus
Estimadas amigas y amigos del Caucus,

Las personas firmantes, luego de varias discusiones e intercambios, 
hemos identificado nuestra posici—n frente al estado de cosas en la 
lista de trabajo del Caucus Latinoamericano y del Caribe ante la 
CMSI. Queremos exponer el consenso al cual hemos llegado.

La lista del Caucus Latinoamericano ante la CMSI se estableci— - en 
primer lugar-como un espacio operativo de coordinaci—n (ver documento 
anexo). En segundo tŽrmino, se cre— para propiciar la reflexi—n y el 
debate de los temas prioritarios para la regi—n con profundidad, 
profesionalismo y buenos niveles te—ricos, acadŽmicos, alimentados 
con la experiencia y vivencia pr‡ctica; y en tercer lugar, se 
constituy— en un espacio de integraci—n de acciones posibles que 
permitan nuevas alianzas para el desarrollo regional basado en TIC. 
Por tanto, esta lista deber’a ser un espacio para la generaci—n, 
aportes y definici—n de posiciones consensuadas sobre los temas que 
nos conciernen.

Se ha insistido en que la necesidad de establecer una estructura 
clara y espec’fica (grupos de trabajo con objetivos, 
responsabilidades y tareas concretas) responde a la voluntad de 
asegurar la efectividad del trabajo.

Lamentablemente, los mœltiples intentos de esa naturaleza fueron 
diluidos por el desorden, el desmerecimiento y la confrontaci—n. En 
cuanto a la misi—n y enfoque, recientemente la lista de Caucus Lac ha 
sido transformada en un espacio de debate monotem‡tico y, sin 
permitir la canalizaci—n de propuestas de definici—n de estrategias y 
mecanismos operativos de trabajo con relaci—n a un conjunto de temas 
identificados como prioritarios para toda la regi—n en su conjunto. 
Aunque reconocemos la importancia del tema del software libre para la 
construcci—n de sociedades del conocimiento, afirmamos la existencia 
de otros temas esenciales que deben ser abordados integralmente desde 
nuestro quehacer, pr‡cticas, reflexiones y propuestas. Apreciamos que 
la calidad de debate establecido en torno a este tema se ha mostrado 
poco efectivo en cuanto a productos y respuestas concretas frente al 
debate que nos convoca, que es la CMSI.

En cuanto al proceso, el estilo de debate asumido durante los 
actuales momentos choca de manera profunda con las normas de 
convivencia, de respeto mutuo y de construcci—n colectiva a la cual 
hemos llegado las ONG del campo de las TICpD despues de a–os de 
luchas donde pasamos tambien (hace muchos a–os atras) por los mismos 
episodios estŽriles de confundir los blancos de nuestras luchas.

Cualquier intento de resolver esta situaci—n por el di‡logo abierto 
se transform—, en los peores casos, en acusaciones personales, 
institucionales o colectivas graves y sin fundamentos y, en el mejor 
caso, en una cantidad de contribuciones que representa en conjunto un 
ruido demasiado grande y una enorme perturbaci—n para personas con 
compromisos altos y tiempo restringido para atenderlos.

El problema que se manifesta va m‡s all‡ de un sencilla cuesti—n de 
estilo agresivo en la expresi—n, pues en marcadas oportunidades (como 
fue el caso con la delegaci—n de la beca para la Prepcom1) altera la 
naturaleza de los procesos democr‡ticos para la construcci—n 
colectiva. Pensamos que la construcci—n democr‡tica se basa en el 
intercambio y di‡logo real, en la aceptaci—n genuina de la diversidad 
y no en la imposici—n de una verdad œnica y la concepci—n maniquea de 
la vida y sus procesos. Si bien entendemos que la democracia se 
identifica en atenci—n y la calidad del trato hacia las minor’as 
consideramos que una minor’a no puede imponer su visi—n y proceso a 
la mayor’a. El fin comœn de este Caucus es sinergizar los elementos, 
organizaciones e individuos participantes de cara a las mejoras de la 
situaci—n latinoamericana dentro de la Sociedad de la Informaci—n, 
entre los cuales se conjugan diversas maneras de observar el mundo, 
diversas metodolog’as e intereses, por lo tanto es inaceptable la 
imposici—n de un criterio œnico pues esto resquebraja el principio 
fundamental de la democracia que es el respeto a las diferencias.

Mediante este documento, hemos querido exponer nuestro consenso y 
nuestra propuesta de iniciar una nueva etapa en la lista, m‡s 
proactiva, respetuosa y consciente del aprendizaje que hemos tenido 
durante esta primera fase. El diagn—stico que hacemos nos lleva a 
buscar la garant’a para que el espacio de discusi—n del caucus retome 
el rumbo y los prop—sitos para los que fue creado. Hacemos un llamado 
a trabajar sobre la base de respeto en el dise–o de metodolog’as y 
encuentros, utilizando de una manera m‡s efectiva, respetuosa y 
consensuada las herramientas que han sido utilizadas hasta ahora, a 
fines de optimizar la plataforma y objetivos del Caucus 
latinoamericano ante la CMSI.

  Cordialmente
  Angelica Abdallah, Asociaci—n Argentina de Teletrabajo
  Carlos Afonso, RITS
  Carlos Alvarez, Red Wamani
  Daniel Pimienta, Funredes
  Dalberto Adulis, RITS
  Erick Iriarte Ahon, Alfa-Redi
  Graciela Seleiman, RITS
  Gustavo G—mez, AMARC-ALC
  Holanda Castro, Centro de Estudios de la Mujer, UCV
  Juli‡n Casasbuenas, Colnodo
  Luis Germ‡n Rodr’guez L., Funredes.
  Magaly Pazello, Punto focal de la Red DAWN para la CMSI
  Mar’a P’a Matta, AMARC-ALC
  Olinca Marino, LaNeta
  Paulo Lima, RITS
  Victor Van Oeyen

Para ver la nota entera con los (importantes) anexos:
http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/public/lac/2004-July/002320.html

From echaparro at uolsinectis.com.ar  Sun Jul 11 04:32:25 2004
From: echaparro at uolsinectis.com.ar (Enrique A. Chaparro)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Open letter sent to latin american caucus -
 lessons for us all to learn...
In-Reply-To: <p06200605bd15e194a34a@[192.168.1.251]>
References: <p06200605bd15e194a34a@[192.168.1.251]>
Message-ID: <20040711003225.637aa222.echaparro@uolsinectis.com.ar>

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 14:10:31 -0400
Robert Guerra <rguerra@lists.privaterra.org> wrote:

RG> Dear colleagues:
RG> 
RG> Since a bit before the PrepCom in Tunis there has been an ongoing, at 
RG> times bitter and problematic, discussion on the latin american caucus 
RG> list related to the  issue - the passionate topic  - of Free and Open 
RG> source software. It generated a great deal of debate. After countless 
RG> messages -  it was necessary for key organizations to issue an "open 
RG> letter" to refocus the aims, objectives and guidelines of the caucus.
RG> ( The "open letter" is below - in spanish.)

:::: En espa?ol m?s abajo ::::

As a subscriber of both lists, and a participant of the WSIS process,
I feel obliged to amend some of the Robert's assertions:
1 - The debate extended well beyond the free software issues, and
    included at least[1] issues on patents and copyrights, (passionate)
    arguments
    on legitmacy and coherence, and visions on the usefulness/convenience/ethics
    of attending the Hamamet meeting.

2 - The last sentence contains several inaccuracies:
2.1 _Some_ individuals (about 15% of those subscribed to the list), and
the organizations they speak for, prepared and sent a document in two
parts: (a) a statement of their views on the above mentioned debate and (b)
a proposal of plan of action for the Caucus. The statement, the plan or
both were then endorsed by other members.
2.2 That document did not ``refocus the aims, objectives and guidelines
of the caucus.'' It's still subject of dicussion among the LAC list's
subscribers.

Any assessments on which organizations are the "key" ones in the LAC
Caucus are, of course, Robert's own opinion.


:::: English above ::::

Como suscriptor de ambas listas, y participante en el proceso de la CMSI,
me siento obligado a modificar algunas de las afirmaciones de Robert:

1 - El debate se extendi? m?s all? de las cuestiones de software libre,
e incluy? por lo menos cuestiones sobre patentes y derechos de autor,
(apasionados) argumentos sobre legitimidad y coherencia, y visiones
sobre la utilidad, conveniencia y etica de asistir a la reuni?n de
Hamamet.

2 - La ?ltima frase contiene varias inexactitudes:

2.1 Algunas personas (alrededor del 15% de las suscriptas a la lista)
y las organizaciones en cuyo nombre participan, prepararon y enviaron
un documento en dos partes: (a) una declaracion sobre sus puntos de
vista sobre el debate mencionado mas arriba, y (b) una propuesta de
plan de accion para el Caucus. La declaraci?n, la propuesta, o ambas,
recibieron luego la adhesion de otros mimebros.
2.2 El documento no `re-enfoc? los prop?sitos, objetivos y lineamientos
del caucus''. Es a?n materia de discusi?n entre los suscriptores de la
lista LAC.

Cualquier apreciaci?n sobre cuales organizaciones son "clave" en el
caucus LAC es, desde luego, opinion personal de Robert.

Saludos desde el Lejano Sur,

Enrique

Note/Nota:

[1] Public archives of the list are available at//Se dispone de archivos
publicos de la lista en: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/public/lac/


-- 
``Izena duen guzia omen da.''
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From rguerra at lists.privaterra.org  Sun Jul 11 14:01:55 2004
From: rguerra at lists.privaterra.org (Robert Guerra)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Open letter sent to latin american caucus -
  lessons for us all to learn...
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Enrique:

mi intent— solo fue de informar a lista de plenaria - sin m‡s. Si es 
que tenia que haber sido comunicado por otra persona - pues, lo 
siento. No sab’a que exist’a tal acuerdo informal - ahora lo sŽ, y 
para nada volverŽ a comunicar aqui cosas del espacio LAC.

Gracias por enviar algo de comentarios - realmente, lo agradezco.

Lo que veo que he hecho - ahora estan todos enfadados conmigo en 
lugar. Quizas, llegar logrŽ "cambiar en tema". Espero - realmente - 
que pasado este "episodio"  que la discusion vuelva a los temas aun 
abiertos.  Los temas para  - consensuar  - pues no son nada faciles.

### english

My aim was to inform the plenary of what was being discussed - 
nothing more. If the information should have been mentioned here (on 
this list) by someone else - well, i'm sorry. I did not know that 
there was an informal agreement in existence - I now know, and will 
not inform the people in this space about what's going on in LAC 
(latin american and carribean) list.

As for your comments - thanks, much appreciated.

I see now, that by my coments - now everyone (in the LAC caucus) 
seems upset with me. Well, it does seem that I managed to "change the 
topic" (of the ongoing discussion). I hope - really - that after this 
"episode" that the discussion return to the open and pending issues. 
The items (and issues) to find a consensus around are nothing easy..



regards

Robert


At 12:32 AM -0300 7/11/04, Enrique A. Chaparro wrote:
>On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 14:10:31 -0400
>Robert Guerra <rguerra@lists.privaterra.org> wrote:
>
>:::: En espa–ol m‡s abajo ::::
>
>As a subscriber of both lists, and a participant of the WSIS process,
>I feel obliged to amend some of the Robert's assertions:
>1 - The debate extended well beyond the free software issues, and
>     included at least[1] issues on patents and copyrights, (passionate)
>     arguments
>     on legitmacy and coherence, and visions on the 
>usefulness/convenience/ethics
>     of attending the Hamamet meeting.
>
>2 - The last sentence contains several inaccuracies:
>2.1 _Some_ individuals (about 15% of those subscribed to the list), and
>the organizations they speak for, prepared and sent a document in two
>parts: (a) a statement of their views on the above mentioned debate and (b)
>a proposal of plan of action for the Caucus. The statement, the plan or
>both were then endorsed by other members.
>2.2 That document did not ``refocus the aims, objectives and guidelines
>of the caucus.'' It's still subject of dicussion among the LAC list's
>subscribers.
>
>Any assessments on which organizations are the "key" ones in the LAC
>Caucus are, of course, Robert's own opinion.

-- 
###
Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.org>
Privaterra - <http://www.privaterra.org>

From rguerra at lists.privaterra.org  Sun Jul 11 14:41:25 2004
From: rguerra at lists.privaterra.org (Robert Guerra)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Further to my earlier message -  mea culpa & Suggestions...
Message-ID: <p06200603bd16ee165aa9@[192.168.1.251]>

Further to my message just now-  I do wish to say something that's 
implied, but not mentioned explicitly in my message.

Which is :

- that my attempt was one of information sharing, with no personal 
comment on the discussion going on in another space.

- I may have been naive of informal arrangements as to how and who 
can take statements from one space and share them with another.

- I did not intend to be seen as passing judgement, being 
condescending, or anything of the sort. It shouldn't matter where i'm 
from - the comments come from me  - in my private capacity - and are 
not indicative of my countries of citizenship (canada & spain), my 
caucus, working groups and  organizational affiliations (cpsr & 
privaterra).

- In a way being outspoken has it's risks. I am someone who tries to 
be as open and transparent as possible. I am willing to admit  my 
mistakes in a very public way and more importantly find ways to 
improve.

In regards to improvement - i'd like to be positive and suggest the 
following recommendations.

recommendations:

- There needs to be periodic updates from the caucuses, focal points 
and  working groups on what they are up to.
- Arrangements and policies really need to be formulated, articulated 
and be publicly known.

humbly yours,

Robert Guerra




### French

Suite ˆ mon message juste maintenant je souhaite dire quelque chose 
qui est impliquŽe, mais non mentionnŽ explicitement dans mon message.

Ce qui est:  que ma tentative Žtait une d'information partageant, 
sans le commentaire personnel sur la discussion continuant dans un 
autre espace.

- j'ai pu avoir ŽtŽ na•f des arrangements sans cŽrŽmonie quant ˆ la 
fa�on dont et ˆ qui peut prendre des rapports de l'un espace et les 
partager avec des autres.

- je n'ai pas eu l'intention d'�tre vu en tant qu'Žmettre le 
jugement, condescending, ou quelque chose de la sorte.  Elle ne 
devrait pas importer d'o� je suis - les commentaires viennent de moi 
- dans ma capacitŽ privŽe - et ne suis pas indicatif de mes pays de 
la citoyennetŽ (le Canada et l'Espagne), de mon caucus, groupes de 
travail et affiliations d'organisation (cpsr et privaterra).

- dans une mani�re �tre franc l'a est des risques.  Je suis quelqu'un 
qui essaye d'�tre aussi ouvert et transparent comme possible.  Je 
suis disposŽ ˆ admettre mes erreurs d'une mani�re tr�s publique et ˆ 
trouver d'une mani�re primordiale des moyens de s'amŽliorer.

Dans le respect ˆ l'amŽlioration - je voudrais �tre positif et 
suggŽrer les recommandations suivantes.  recommandations:

- il faut les mises ˆ jour pŽriodiques des caucuses, des points 
focaux et des groupes de travail sur jusqu'ˆ ce qu'elles sont.

- des arrangements et les politiques doivent vraiment �tre formulŽs, 
articulŽ et soient publiquement connus.


### Spanish

Siguiendo mi mensaje apenas deseo ahora decir algo se implica que, 
pero no mencionado expl’citamente en mi mensaje.  Cu‡l es:  que mi 
tentativa era una de informaci—n que compart’a, sin el comentario 
personal sobre la discusi—n que entra encendido en otro espacio.  - 
pude haber sido ingenuo de arreglos informales en cuanto a c—mo y 
quiŽn puede tomar declaraciones a partir de un espacio y compartirlas 
con otro.  - no me prepuse ser visto como pasar el juicio, 
condescending, o cualquier cosa de la clase.  No debe importar de 
donde estoy - los comentarios vienen de m’ - en mi capacidad privada 
- y no soy indicativo de mis pa’ses de la ciudadan’a (Canad‡ y 
Espa–a), de mi caucus, grupos de funcionamiento y afiliaciones de 
organizaci—n (cpsr y privaterra).  - en una manera el ser abierto la 
tiene es riesgos.  Soy alguien que intenta ser tan abierto y 
transparente como sea posible.  Estoy dispuesto a admitir mis errores 
de una manera muy pœblica y a encontrar m‡s importantemente maneras 
de mejorar.  En respeto a la mejora - quisiera ser positivo y sugerir 
las recomendaciones siguientes.  recomendaciones:  - necesita ser 
actualizaciones peri—dicas de los caucuses, de los puntos focales y 
de los grupos de funcionamiento en hasta cu‡l est‡n.  - los arreglos 
y las pol’ticas realmente necesitan ser formulados, articulado y se 
sepan pœblico.
-- 
###
Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.org>
Privaterra - <http://www.privaterra.org>

From busaniche at caminandoutopias.org.ar  Sun Jul 11 15:31:14 2004
From: busaniche at caminandoutopias.org.ar (Beatriz Busaniche)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Further to my earlier message -  mea culpa & Suggestions...
In-Reply-To: <p06200603bd16ee165aa9@[192.168.1.251]>
References: <p06200603bd16ee165aa9@[192.168.1.251]>
Message-ID: <1089556273.1930.53.camel@linux.local>

english/spanish

El dom, 11-07-2004 a las 10:41, Robert Guerra escribi?:

> 
> - that my attempt was one of information sharing, with no personal 
> comment on the discussion going on in another space.

Robert, let me add that your message was plenty of personal comments,
like consider who are the key organizations of the caucus, comments to
the signers of the letter and your consideration that it was necessary
for key organizations to issue an "open letter" to refocus the aims,
objectives and guidelines of the caucus".

Roberto, d?jame agregar que tu mensaje tiene varios comentarios
personales tal como considerar cu?les son las organizaciones "clave" del
caucus, felicitaciones a los firmantes de la carta y tu consideraci?n de
que "fue necesario para las organizaciones claves elaborar esta carta
abierta para reenfocar los objetivos, metas y lineas de acci?n del
caucus". 

There is a political discusion within the latin american caucus, but 
that seems to be a "problem", As Robert said "This shows us all that
"problems" can occur anytime, anywhere".

Hay una discusi?n pol?tica al interior del caucus de america latina,
pero eso parece ser un "problema, como Dijo Robert, "esto nos demuestra
que los problemas pueden ocurrir en cualquier momento en cualquier
lugar". 

let me add that political discusions are not problems, and that i invite
the plenary, and the other caucus to discuss the terms we are discussing
in the latin american caucus. Lac caucus has open archives, so everybody
that reads spanish could go and visit them to check what is happening. 

D?jame agregar que las discusiones pol?ticas NO son PROBLEMAS, y que
invito a la plenaria y a otros caucus a discutir los t?rminos que
estamos discutiendo en el caucus de Am?rica Latina.  El caucus lac tiene
archivos abiertos, as? que quienes puedan leer espa?ol pueden visitarlos
y ver directamente qu? est? ocurriendo. 


> - I may have been naive of informal arrangements as to how and who 
> can take statements from one space and share them with another.

Robert, there are no informal arrangements of how and who could take
statements from one space and share them in other spaces.

Robert, no hay ning?n arreglo informal sobre como y quien puede tomar
una declaraci?n de un espacio y compartirla con otros. 

The main problem was that you presented the situation in a way that a
lot of people from lac caucus could not agree.  

El problema principal fue que presentaste la situaci?n de una forma tal
que mucha gente del caucus lac no podr?a acordar. 

The letter is still under discusion.  Some people endorsed it, but some
other people ask for changes and further explanations.  Your message to
plenary did not reflect this situation.  

La carta est? a?n bajo discusi?n. algunas personas la firmaron pero
otras personas pidieron cambios y m?s explicaciones. Tu mensaje a
plenaria no reflej? esa situaci?n. 

For the people that wants to know what is happening in the latin
american caucus, i have to say that we are having strong political
discutions about a lot of issues, including free software, patents,
copyrights, and the political point of view in the shaping of
"information society" or "free knowledge society" as different policital
projects.

Para las personas que quieren saber qu? es lo que est? pasando en el
caucus de america latina, debo decir que estamos teniendo una fuerte
discusi?n pol?tica sobre varios temas, incluyendo software libre,
patentes, copyrights y el punto de vista pol?tico del desarrollo de la
sociedad de la informaci?n o el desarrollo de la "sociedad del
conocimiento libre", como proyectos pol?ticos diferentes. 

We just want to know for which projects we are working. If political
discutions are problems, then i do not understand what are we doing in
this summit. 


S?lo queremos saber por qu? proyecto estamos trabajando, Si las
discusiones pol?ticas son "problemas", entonces no entiendo que es lo
que estamos haciendo en esta cumbre.

regards / saludos /





From echaparro at uolsinectis.com.ar  Sun Jul 11 17:22:29 2004
From: echaparro at uolsinectis.com.ar (Enrique A. Chaparro)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Open letter sent to latin american caucus -
 lessons for us all to learn...
In-Reply-To: <p06200602bd16e80ff0ef@[192.168.1.251]>
References: <p06200605bd15e194a34a@[192.168.1.251]>
	<20040711003225.637aa222.echaparro@uolsinectis.com.ar>
	<p06200602bd16e80ff0ef@[192.168.1.251]>
Message-ID: <20040711132229.7b32a0d1.echaparro@uolsinectis.com.ar>

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 09:01:55 -0400
Robert Guerra <rguerra@lists.privaterra.org> wrote:

RG> Enrique:
RG> 
RG> mi intent? solo fue de informar a lista de plenaria - sin m?s. Si es 
RG> que tenia que haber sido comunicado por otra persona - pues, lo 
RG> siento. No sab?a que exist?a tal acuerdo informal - ahora lo s?, y 
RG> para nada volver? a comunicar aqui cosas del espacio LAC.
RG> 
RG> Gracias por enviar algo de comentarios - realmente, lo agradezco.
RG> 
RG> Lo que veo que he hecho - ahora estan todos enfadados conmigo en 
RG> lugar. Quizas, llegar logr? "cambiar en tema". Espero - realmente - 
RG> que pasado este "episodio"  que la discusion vuelva a los temas aun 
RG> abiertos.  Los temas para  - consensuar  - pues no son nada faciles.

Robert,

I hold that you are as well entitled as anyone else to quote a message
of a public mailing list in this one, as far as it is related to the
WSIS issues. To the best of my knowledge, no formal or 
informal `speakers' of the LAC Caucus list have been appointed by the
Caucus constituency. Thus, please do not understand my message as a 
criticism to you having posted that message to this list. 

My message was intended to show some factual data, since IMHO your
interpretation of the events and their outcomes (as honest 
as it can be) was not accurate. OTOH, I'm not upset with you, and
never have been. Although we may have different standpoints on many
issues, I shall defend your right to express your opinions with the
same energy I'll use to support the mine.

Saludos desde el Lejano Sur,

Enrique

::::

Hallo que tienes tanto derecho como cualquier otra persona para citar
en esta lista un mensaje de otra lista de correos publica, en tanto
se trate de cuestiones relacionadas con la CMSI. A mi mejor entender,
los miembros de la lista del Caucus LAC no ha designado ningun vocero
formal o informal. Por lo tanto, por favor no entiendas mi mensaje 
como una critica a que hayas copiado ese mensaje a esta lista.

Mi mensaje procuraba mostrar algunos datos de hecho, pues EMHO tu
interpretacion de los sucesos y sus resultados (tan honesta como
pudiera ser) no era exacta. Por otro lado, no estoy `enfadado'
contigo y nunca lo he estado. Si bien podemos tener diferentes
posturas sobre muchas cuestiones, defendere tu derecho a expresar
tus opiniones con la misma energia que empleare para apoyar las
mias.

Regards from the Far South,

Enrique

- 
``Izena duen guzia omen da.''
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From mgurst at vcn.bc.ca  Sun Jul 11 20:14:58 2004
From: mgurst at vcn.bc.ca (Michael Gurstein)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] FW: [CI] Conference registration reminder for Community Informatics Research Network Conf, 29 Sept - 1 Oct
Message-ID: <000d01c4677b$5f11fff0$ababfea9@michael78xnoln>


-----Original Message-----
From: larry Stillman [mailto:larrys01@optusnet.com.au] 
Sent: July 9, 2004 5:29 AM
To: communityinformatics@vancouvercommunity.net
Cc: ciresearchers@vancouvercommunity.net; ci-text@vancouvercommunity.net
Subject: [CI] Conference registration reminder for Community Informatics
Research Network Conf, 29 Sept - 1 Oct


A reminder that registration is open for an exciting colloquium and
conference, held by the Community Informatics Research Network, Inc.,
from 29 September - 1 October 2004 at the Monash Centre, Prato (near
Florence), Italy.

'Sustainability' has been identified as a key and controversial issue in
community networking, and the purpose of the conference is to explore
all its dimensions, resulting in a communiqu? developed through plenary
sessions, as well as further activities of the CIRN network. Please see
http://www.ciresearch.net/conferences/index.php?cf=4 for information,
including registrations.

The Conference is structured as a colloquium with a number of
components, including keynotes, 7 comprehensive panels for 40+
researcher and practitioner presentations from around the world, 4
workshops, plenary sessions, a graduate student colloquium, and the CIRN
Annual General Meeting and formation of Special Interest Groups (SIGS).
There will also be opportunities for networking and social events in a
beautiful, small Tuscan city, close to Florence. 

Workshops for practitioners and researchers include: - The
Sustainability Planning Game; Community Informatics Curriculum and
Education; Multisite, Multistate Research; Sustainability in Practice.
Preliminary schedule details can be found at
http://www.ciresearch.net/conferences/schedule.php?cf=4.

CIRN members (see www.ciresearch.net/membership.htm for information)
?165, including conference dinner Non-members - ?190 Students with ID,
?165.  Spouses/partners can also join us for meals for a modest fee.

 Early hotel bookings are particularly advised, and there is a good
hostel a short bus trip away..

The event is hosted by the Centre for Community Networking Research,
Monash University, with the generous sponsorship and support of -- 
Claremont Graduate University
National Research Council Canada - Institute for Information Technology
Queensland University of Technology Victoria University of Wellington,
New Zealand Intel The Canadian Research Alliance For Community
Innovation And Networking (CRACIN).

--------------------------------
Larry Stillman
CCNR, Monash University
61 3 9903 1801
www.ccnr.net  www.webstylus.net


From ladymurrugarra at yahoo.es  Mon Jul 12 04:42:08 2004
From: ladymurrugarra at yahoo.es (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lady=20Murrugarra?=)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Kofi Annan dice que la lucha contra el sida .....
Message-ID: <20040712034208.73024.qmail@web11803.mail.yahoo.com>



Novedades Yahoo!
  Kofi Annan dice que la lucha contra el sida se est? ralentizando

Foto ampliada
BANGKOK (Reuters) - La lucha global contra el sida se est? ralentizando y los l?deres deben sacar la cabeza de debajo de la tierra y afrontar una enfermedad mortal cuya carga empieza a pesar cada vez m?s sobre las mujeres, dijo el secretario general de la ONU, Kofi Annan el domingo. 

En la inauguraci?n de la XV Conferencia Internacional sobre el Sida, Annan realiz? una s?plica apasionada para la educaci?n de las ni?as como un medio vital de protegerlas de la epidemia, en un mundo donde cada vez m?s y m?s mujeres la est?n contrayendo a trav?s de sus maridos promiscuos. 

Tambi?n pidi? m?s dinero para detener la propagaci?n de la enfermedad que ha matado a 20 millones de personas y para tratar a millones de enfermos. 

Annan dijo que Asia debe intensificar la lucha contra el sida, que se est? extendiendo r?pidamente en la regi?n donde habita un 60 por ciento de la humanidad, y donde se producen una de cada cuatro nuevas infecciones. 

"Necesitamos que los l?deres de todos el mundo demuestren que hablar sobre el sida es un orgullo, no una fuente de verg?enza", Publicidad
var bfss_clickthrough="/SIG=12bdtb1al/*http://bancotel.preproduccion.genetsis.com/mailing/procedencias.cfm?id=18";var bfss_flashfile="http://eur.a1.yimg.com/java.europe.yahoo.com/es/any/robapaginas1.swf";var bfss_altimg="http://eur.a1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/a/es/any/bancotel.gif";var bfss_redirect = "http://es.rd.yahoo.com/SIG=12jf9ek0q/M=200063679.201014951.202434764.200262647/D=es_news/S=50526959:LREC/EXP=1089689550/A=200438900/R=0/*";var bfss_target = "_top";// SETUPvar bfss_rnd = Math.random()*100000000000000000+'x';var bfss_arg = bfss_rnd.substring(0,10);var bfss_id = 'm' + bfss_arg;var bfss_width=300;var bfss_height=250;bfss_redirect = bfss_redirect.substring(0,bfss_redirect.length-1);var bfss_URL = bfss_redirect + 'id=flashclicks' + bfss_clickthrough;var bfss_altURL = bfss_redirect + 'id=gifclicks' + bfss_clickthrough;var bfss_linkArray = new Array();bfss_linkArray[0] = bfss_URL;var bfss_link='javascript:bfss_doGetURL(0,'+ bfss_arg + ')';bfss_flashfile =
 bfss_flashfile+'?clickTAG='+bfss_link+''; on error resume next plugin = ( IsObject(CreateObject("ShockwaveFlash.ShockwaveFlash.7")))dijo. 

"Ya no debemos meter la cabeza debajo de la tierra, (tener) m?s verg?enza, escondernos detr?s del velo de la apat?a", agreg?. 

Justo antes de que Annan hablara, 1.000 activistas protagonizaron una sentada frente al centro de convenciones en las afueras de Bankok donde se celebra la cumbre, mostrando pancartas que dec?an "Acceso para todos denegado", una burla al lema de la cumbre "Acceso para todos". 

Dentro del recinto, estudiantes tailandeses vestidos con condones rosas gigantes se mezclaban con delegados. Fuera, elefantes jugaban al f?tbol en un aparcamiento. Una compa??a farmac?utica facilit? notas de prensa enrolladas en jeringuillas. 

SIN CURA, SIN VACUNA 

Unos 38 millones de personas viven con la enfermedad y unos 14.000 m?s se infectan cada d?a - m?s del 40 por ciento de ellos con edades comprendidas entre los 15 y los 24 a?os. 

A?n faltan muchos a?os para la obtenci?n de una vacuna o una cura para la enfermedad que surgi? en 1981. 

"No estamos en la senda de conseguir reducir la escala y el impacto de la epidemia en 2005, como hab?amos prometido", dijo Annan, en referencia al plan de la Organizaci?n Mundial de la Salud de proporcionar f?rmacos a tres millones de personas que viven en pa?ses en v?as de desarrollo a finales de 2005. 

Miembros de la OMS han dicho que no han conseguido alcanzar el objetivo de los primeros seis meses de programa, pero conf?an en recuperarse, aunque a?n hab?a que superar muchas barreras. 

Annan dijo que deb?an ampliarse los sistemas sanitarios y la formaci?n de sanitarios para apoyar tanto el tratamiento y la prevenci?n. 

El secretario general de la ONU estaba especialmente preocupado por las mujeres, que sufren casi la mitad de todas las infecciones adultas, en un mundo donde muchas viven en la ignorancia y habitualmente son controladas por los hombres. 

"Durante los ?ltimos a?os, hemos visto emerger un terrible patr?n: en todo el mundo, las mujeres est?n llevando cada vez m?s el peso de la epidemia", dijo Annan. 

"Lo que se necesita es un reto real y positivo que d? m?s poder y confianza a las mujeres y ni?as", dijo. "En otras palabras: lo que se necesita es la educaci?n de las ni?as". 

Los hombres deben cambiar sus actitudes, "como la creencia de que si no demuestran a sus mujeres "quien es el jefe en casa" no son hombres aut?nticos, o que para convertirse en hombres deben tener su iniciaci?n sexual con una prostituta cuando tienen 13 a?os". 

La reuni?n de una semana de duraci?n, a la que acudir?n 17.000 delegados de 160 pa?ses, pretende mejorar el acceso a los c?cteles de f?rmacos que prolongan la vida de los enfermos de sida. 

Pese a la pronunciada ca?da de los precios de los f?rmacos, sobre todo por la presi?n ejercida sobre los laboratorios farmac?uticos occidentales, s?lo 440.000 de los seis millones de pacientes con sida en los pa?ses pobres reciben los medicamentos que necesitan. 

El asunto del acceso a los f?rmacos antirretrovirales - que pueden costar solo 140 d?lares por paciente y a?o en las naciones pobres frente a los 470 d?lares de los medicamentos patentados, seg?n la organizaci?n humanitaria ActionAid - ha ensombrecido los proleg?menos de la cumbre bianual.



****************************************************
Lady V. Murrugarra V.
www.upch.edu.pe/tropicales
www.concytec.gob.pe/generotics/ 
www.galenonet.com/CYTED/
Oficina: 511-4823910, 4823903 anexo 15
Celular: 511-99519920
Fax: 511-4823404
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From ladymurrugarra at yahoo.es  Mon Jul 12 04:42:08 2004
From: ladymurrugarra at yahoo.es (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lady=20Murrugarra?=)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Kofi Annan dice que la lucha contra el sida .....
Message-ID: <20040712034208.73024.qmail@web11803.mail.yahoo.com>



Novedades Yahoo!
  Kofi Annan dice que la lucha contra el sida se est? ralentizando

Foto ampliada
BANGKOK (Reuters) - La lucha global contra el sida se est? ralentizando y los l?deres deben sacar la cabeza de debajo de la tierra y afrontar una enfermedad mortal cuya carga empieza a pesar cada vez m?s sobre las mujeres, dijo el secretario general de la ONU, Kofi Annan el domingo. 

En la inauguraci?n de la XV Conferencia Internacional sobre el Sida, Annan realiz? una s?plica apasionada para la educaci?n de las ni?as como un medio vital de protegerlas de la epidemia, en un mundo donde cada vez m?s y m?s mujeres la est?n contrayendo a trav?s de sus maridos promiscuos. 

Tambi?n pidi? m?s dinero para detener la propagaci?n de la enfermedad que ha matado a 20 millones de personas y para tratar a millones de enfermos. 

Annan dijo que Asia debe intensificar la lucha contra el sida, que se est? extendiendo r?pidamente en la regi?n donde habita un 60 por ciento de la humanidad, y donde se producen una de cada cuatro nuevas infecciones. 

"Necesitamos que los l?deres de todos el mundo demuestren que hablar sobre el sida es un orgullo, no una fuente de verg?enza", Publicidad
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 bfss_flashfile+'?clickTAG='+bfss_link+''; on error resume next plugin = ( IsObject(CreateObject("ShockwaveFlash.ShockwaveFlash.7")))dijo. 

"Ya no debemos meter la cabeza debajo de la tierra, (tener) m?s verg?enza, escondernos detr?s del velo de la apat?a", agreg?. 

Justo antes de que Annan hablara, 1.000 activistas protagonizaron una sentada frente al centro de convenciones en las afueras de Bankok donde se celebra la cumbre, mostrando pancartas que dec?an "Acceso para todos denegado", una burla al lema de la cumbre "Acceso para todos". 

Dentro del recinto, estudiantes tailandeses vestidos con condones rosas gigantes se mezclaban con delegados. Fuera, elefantes jugaban al f?tbol en un aparcamiento. Una compa??a farmac?utica facilit? notas de prensa enrolladas en jeringuillas. 

SIN CURA, SIN VACUNA 

Unos 38 millones de personas viven con la enfermedad y unos 14.000 m?s se infectan cada d?a - m?s del 40 por ciento de ellos con edades comprendidas entre los 15 y los 24 a?os. 

A?n faltan muchos a?os para la obtenci?n de una vacuna o una cura para la enfermedad que surgi? en 1981. 

"No estamos en la senda de conseguir reducir la escala y el impacto de la epidemia en 2005, como hab?amos prometido", dijo Annan, en referencia al plan de la Organizaci?n Mundial de la Salud de proporcionar f?rmacos a tres millones de personas que viven en pa?ses en v?as de desarrollo a finales de 2005. 

Miembros de la OMS han dicho que no han conseguido alcanzar el objetivo de los primeros seis meses de programa, pero conf?an en recuperarse, aunque a?n hab?a que superar muchas barreras. 

Annan dijo que deb?an ampliarse los sistemas sanitarios y la formaci?n de sanitarios para apoyar tanto el tratamiento y la prevenci?n. 

El secretario general de la ONU estaba especialmente preocupado por las mujeres, que sufren casi la mitad de todas las infecciones adultas, en un mundo donde muchas viven en la ignorancia y habitualmente son controladas por los hombres. 

"Durante los ?ltimos a?os, hemos visto emerger un terrible patr?n: en todo el mundo, las mujeres est?n llevando cada vez m?s el peso de la epidemia", dijo Annan. 

"Lo que se necesita es un reto real y positivo que d? m?s poder y confianza a las mujeres y ni?as", dijo. "En otras palabras: lo que se necesita es la educaci?n de las ni?as". 

Los hombres deben cambiar sus actitudes, "como la creencia de que si no demuestran a sus mujeres "quien es el jefe en casa" no son hombres aut?nticos, o que para convertirse en hombres deben tener su iniciaci?n sexual con una prostituta cuando tienen 13 a?os". 

La reuni?n de una semana de duraci?n, a la que acudir?n 17.000 delegados de 160 pa?ses, pretende mejorar el acceso a los c?cteles de f?rmacos que prolongan la vida de los enfermos de sida. 

Pese a la pronunciada ca?da de los precios de los f?rmacos, sobre todo por la presi?n ejercida sobre los laboratorios farmac?uticos occidentales, s?lo 440.000 de los seis millones de pacientes con sida en los pa?ses pobres reciben los medicamentos que necesitan. 

El asunto del acceso a los f?rmacos antirretrovirales - que pueden costar solo 140 d?lares por paciente y a?o en las naciones pobres frente a los 470 d?lares de los medicamentos patentados, seg?n la organizaci?n humanitaria ActionAid - ha ensombrecido los proleg?menos de la cumbre bianual.



****************************************************
Lady V. Murrugarra V.
www.upch.edu.pe/tropicales
www.concytec.gob.pe/generotics/ 
www.galenonet.com/CYTED/
Oficina: 511-4823910, 4823903 anexo 15
Celular: 511-99519920
Fax: 511-4823404
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From: echaparro at uolsinectis.com.ar (Enrique A. Chaparro)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Kofi Annan dice que la lucha contra el sida
 .....
In-Reply-To: <20040712034208.73024.qmail@web11803.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20040712034208.73024.qmail@web11803.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20040711224812.7060eea2.echaparro@uolsinectis.com.ar>

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 05:42:08 +0200 (CEST)
Lady Murrugarra <ladymurrugarra@yahoo.es> wrote:

LM> 
LM> 
LM> Novedades Yahoo!
LM>   Kofi Annan dice que la lucha contra el sida se est? ralentizando

Como muestra de respeto hacia los miembros de la lista... podrias evitar
el crossposting y el envio de mensajes en HTML incluyendo publicidad y
scripts potencialmente nocivos?
Si te parecia que la noticia era importante en el marco de la CMSI, 
podrias haber indicado simplemente su URL.

Gracias


As a demonstration of respect to the list members... could you avoid
crosspositng and sending HTML messages including advertising and
potentially harmful scripts? If you believed that the news
were significant within the WSIS frame, you could have simply pointed
the URL.

Thanks

Enrique

-- 
``Izena duen guzia omen da.''
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From Ramin.Kaweh at unctad.org  Mon Jul 12 16:36:36 2004
From: Ramin.Kaweh at unctad.org (Ramin.Kaweh@unctad.org)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] WSIS Countering Spam report
Message-ID: <OF2E8A16A8.E9C8E819-ONC1256ECF.005543C7@unctad.org>

Dear All,

Please see a brief report on the WSIS-related thematic meeting on
Countering Spam
which was held in Geneva from 7-9 July 2004 under the "News section" at:
http://www.un-ngls.org/wsis.htm

Best regards,
Ramin


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Ramin Kaweh
Programme Officer
UN-NGLS (Non-Governmental Liaison Service)
Palais des Nations
1211 Geneva 10
Switzerland
tel:  0041.22. 917 2078
fax: 0041.22. 917 0432
ramin.kaweh@unctad.org
www.un-ngls.org
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From wellings at epic.org  Tue Jul 13 04:18:08 2004
From: wellings at epic.org (Frannie Wellings)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Public Voice WSIS Conference Call, this Friday July 16th at
 10amEST
Message-ID: <a0611042fbd1902c5b7df@[192.168.1.68]>

Public Voice Conference Call
THIS FRIDAY, July 16, 10am US Eastern time (EST) -

WSIS and Civil Society: Next Steps After Tunisian Prepcom

Call Details:

   Dial 1.512.225.3050
   or Dial 1.888.268.1204 from within the US
   Then dial conference code: 65889#


Date and time:

Friday, July 16, 2004
10 am EST


Purpose:

Please join us for the next Public Voice conference call to discuss 
the first Prepcom of the second phase of the WSIS and plan for future 
actions.  The agenda is below.  Please e-mail me with anything you'd 
like to add.  I'll send out a reminder e-mail on Wednesday with some 
links to useful background materials.


Agenda:

I. Updates: news/developments in prepcom 1 (30 mins)
II. Discussion of Newest Documents (10-20 mins)
III. Discussion of Action Plan/implementation steps (10-20 mins)
IV. Review of Civil Society Bureau (CSB) (10 mins)
V.  Creating a Roadmap/Timeline for Civil Society (20 mins)
VI. Identifying Upcoming Meetings (to organize the next Civil Society 
WSIS in-person meeting) (10 mins)
VII. Next Steps (10 mins)


-- 

~~~
Frannie Wellings
Policy Fellow, the Electronic Privacy Information Center   ~ 
http://www.epic.org
Director, The Public Voice    ~   http://www.thepublicvoice.org

1718 Connecticut Ave. N.W., Suite 200
Washington, D.C.  20009
USA

wellings@epic.org

+1 202 483 1140 x 107 (telephone)
+1 202 483 1248 (fax)
~~~

From veni at veni.com  Tue Jul 13 10:13:57 2004
From: veni at veni.com (Veni Markovski)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: ICANN workshop on WSIS, was Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Public Voice
  WSIS Conference Call, this Friday July 16th at 10amEST
In-Reply-To: <a0611042fbd1902c5b7df@[192.168.1.68]>
References: <a0611042fbd1902c5b7df@[192.168.1.68]>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20040713120642.031e5378@193.200.15.187>

I will be travelling on Friday to Kuala Lumpur for the ICANN meeting, and 
won't joing the conference call.

In case someone from you is there, here's an information about a workshop:

?Workshop on the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS): Issues of 
Relevance to ICANN and Next Steps? scheduled for Tuesday, 20 July 2004 from 
08:30 ? 10:00 in the Shangri-La Hotel?s Grand Ballroom, Kuala Lumpur.

All individuals interested in the Internet and management and coordination 
of the domain name system (DNS) are encouraged to attend the Workshop, 
which will provide information on the United Nation's WSIS process and 
issues of direct impact to ICANN.  Proposed output and next steps for ICANN 
constituencies/stakeholders regarding WSIS and technical coordination and 
management of the DNS also will be discussed. "WSIS" is a process in which 
governments are attempting to address a broad range of international legal, 
regulatory, economic, and policy issues related to the Internet. During 
this process, some governments proposed that an intergovernmental 
organization be responsible for "Internet governance," a phrase that 
remains undefined and some consider to include and/or mean the 
administration and coordination of the DNS.

The objectives of the Workshop are to:

1.       Inform ICANN stakeholders and the broader community about 
activities, initial outcomes, and upcoming events related to WSIS and ICANN;
2.      Foster a dialogue and mutual understanding of positions of 
different stakeholders on WSIS as it relates to ICANN and other issues of 
interest;
3.      Enhance stakeholder participation in WSIS as it relates to ICANN's 
activities.


Included below is the Workshop agenda.  Additional meeting information is 
posted at http://www.icann.org/meetings/kualalumpur/.

We would appreciate it if you would post and distribute this invitation to 
others who may be interested in attending.


Thank you for your assistance.

Sincerely,

The WSIS Workshop Planning Group:
Vittorio Bertola, At-Large Advisory Committee
Izumi Aizu, At-Large Advisory Committee
Marilyn Cade, Business Constituency
David Fares, BusinessConstituency/USCIB
Tony Holmes, Internet Service & Connectivity Providers
Elana Broitman, Registrars
Jeff Neuman, Registries
Peter Dengate Thrush, InternetNZ
Theresa Swinehart, ICANN
Denise Michel, ICANN


From p.doetzer at gmx.net  Tue Jul 13 11:19:37 2004
From: p.doetzer at gmx.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Peter_D=F6tzer=22?=)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Public Voice WSIS Conference Call, this Friday July 16th at 10amEST
References: <a0611042fbd1902c5b7df@[192.168.1.68]>
Message-ID: <24683.1089713977@www22.gmx.net>

Hi there, 
won't be able to participate, but will there be any minutes of the voice
conference available later on?  

tks peter


> Public Voice Conference Call
> THIS FRIDAY, July 16, 10am US Eastern time (EST) -
> 
> WSIS and Civil Society: Next Steps After Tunisian Prepcom
> 
> Call Details:
> 
>    Dial 1.512.225.3050
>    or Dial 1.888.268.1204 from within the US
>    Then dial conference code: 65889#
> 
> 
> Date and time:
> 
> Friday, July 16, 2004
> 10 am EST
> 
> 
> Purpose:
> 
> Please join us for the next Public Voice conference call to discuss 
> the first Prepcom of the second phase of the WSIS and plan for future 
> actions.  The agenda is below.  Please e-mail me with anything you'd 
> like to add.  I'll send out a reminder e-mail on Wednesday with some 
> links to useful background materials.
> 
> 
> Agenda:
> 
> I. Updates: news/developments in prepcom 1 (30 mins)
> II. Discussion of Newest Documents (10-20 mins)
> III. Discussion of Action Plan/implementation steps (10-20 mins)
> IV. Review of Civil Society Bureau (CSB) (10 mins)
> V.  Creating a Roadmap/Timeline for Civil Society (20 mins)
> VI. Identifying Upcoming Meetings (to organize the next Civil Society 
> WSIS in-person meeting) (10 mins)
> VII. Next Steps (10 mins)
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> ~~~
> Frannie Wellings
> Policy Fellow, the Electronic Privacy Information Center   ~ 
> http://www.epic.org
> Director, The Public Voice    ~   http://www.thepublicvoice.org
> 
> 1718 Connecticut Ave. N.W., Suite 200
> Washington, D.C.  20009
> USA
> 
> wellings@epic.org
> 
> +1 202 483 1140 x 107 (telephone)
> +1 202 483 1248 (fax)
> ~~~
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From karenb at gn.apc.org  Tue Jul 13 12:55:42 2004
From: karenb at gn.apc.org (karen banks)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: ICANN workshop on WSIS
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20040713120642.031e5378@193.200.15.187>
References: <a0611042fbd1902c5b7df@[192.168.1.68]>
 <6.1.2.0.2.20040713120642.031e5378@193.200.15.187>
Message-ID: <6.1.1.1.0.20040713125507.01f0bec0@pop.gn.apc.org>

hi veni

thanks for this, is it an open meeting? ie, can i invite colleagues from 
Malaysia to attend?

karen

>?Workshop on the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS): Issues of 
>Relevance to ICANN and Next Steps? scheduled for Tuesday, 20 July 2004 
>from 08:30 ? 10:00 in the Shangri-La Hotel?s Grand Ballroom, Kuala Lumpur.



From veni at veni.com  Tue Jul 13 13:02:07 2004
From: veni at veni.com (Veni Markovski)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: ICANN workshop on WSIS
In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.0.20040713125507.01f0bec0@pop.gn.apc.org>
References: <a0611042fbd1902c5b7df@[192.168.1.68]>
 <6.1.2.0.2.20040713120642.031e5378@193.200.15.187>
 <6.1.1.1.0.20040713125507.01f0bec0@pop.gn.apc.org>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20040713150149.02ee2ec0@193.200.15.187>

Sure. Wolgang already wrote he'll be there in person.

v.

At 12:55 13-07-04  +0100, karen banks wrote:
>hi veni
>
>thanks for this, is it an open meeting? ie, can i invite colleagues from 
>Malaysia to attend?
>
>karen
>
>>?Workshop on the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS): Issues 
>>of Relevance to ICANN and Next Steps? scheduled for Tuesday, 20 July 2004 
>>from 08:30 ? 10:00 in the Shangri-La Hotel?s Grand Ballroom, Kuala Lumpur.
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Plenary mailing list
>Plenary@wsis-cs.org
>http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/plenary


From ajp at glocom.ac.jp  Tue Jul 13 13:20:57 2004
From: ajp at glocom.ac.jp (Adam Peake)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: ICANN workshop on WSIS
In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.0.20040713125507.01f0bec0@pop.gn.apc.org>
References: <a0611042fbd1902c5b7df@[192.168.1.68]>
 <6.1.2.0.2.20040713120642.031e5378@193.200.15.187>
 <6.1.1.1.0.20040713125507.01f0bec0@pop.gn.apc.org>
Message-ID: <p06110446bd1981627735@[192.168.1.254]>

ICANN meetings are free and open to all to 
attend.  Organizers typically like people to 
pre-register, but not a requirement I think.

Information about the Kuala Lumpur meeting here 
<http://www.icann.org/meetings/kualalumpur/>

Also, please encourage people to attend the Non 
Commercial Users Constituency Meeting, it will be 
held on Monday July 19, in the Penang room, 
Shangri-La Hotel.  Time unfortunately not yet 
confirmed.

Thanks,

Adam


At 12:55 PM +0100 7/13/04, karen banks wrote:
>hi veni
>
>thanks for this, is it an open meeting? ie, can 
>i invite colleagues from Malaysia to attend?
>
>karen
>
>>?Workshop on the World Summit on the 
>>Information Society (WSIS): Issues of Relevance 
>>to ICANN and Next Steps? scheduled for Tuesday, 
>>20 July 2004 from 08:30 ? 10:00 in the 
>>Shangri-La Hotel?s Grand Ballroom, Kuala Lumpur.
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Plenary mailing list
>Plenary@wsis-cs.org
>http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/plenary


From wellings at epic.org  Tue Jul 13 13:43:46 2004
From: wellings at epic.org (Frannie Wellings)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Public Voice WSIS Conference Call, this
 Friday July 16th at 10amEST
In-Reply-To: <24683.1089713977@www22.gmx.net>
References: <a0611042fbd1902c5b7df@[192.168.1.68]>
 <24683.1089713977@www22.gmx.net>
Message-ID: <a06110430bd1987f2ca8a@[192.168.1.68]>

Hi Peter - Yes, I can post a report afterwards. - Frannie

>Hi there,
>won't be able to participate, but will there be any minutes of the voice
>conference available later on? 
>
>tks peter
>
>
>>  Public Voice Conference Call
>>  THIS FRIDAY, July 16, 10am US Eastern time (EST) -
>>
>  > WSIS and Civil Society: Next Steps After Tunisian Prepcom
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Plenary mailing list
>Plenary@wsis-cs.org
>http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/plenary


-- 

~~~
Frannie Wellings
Policy Fellow, the Electronic Privacy Information Center   ~ 
http://www.epic.org
Director, The Public Voice    ~   http://www.thepublicvoice.org

1718 Connecticut Ave. N.W., Suite 200
Washington, D.C.  20009
USA

wellings@epic.org

+1 202 483 1140 x 107 (telephone)
+1 202 483 1248 (fax)
~~~

From bendrath at zedat.fu-berlin.de  Tue Jul 13 14:00:36 2004
From: bendrath at zedat.fu-berlin.de (Ralf Bendrath)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Council of Europe CfP on Mass Media Policy
Message-ID: <40F3DCF4.F36412EB@zedat.fu-berlin.de>

Sounds almost like a regional-thematic WSIS meeting. I wonder if the CoE
registers it as such.

Ralf

----------------------------
<http://www.coe.int/T/E/human_rights/media/7_Links/consultation_announcement_E.asp>

7th European Ministerial Conference on Mass Media Policy 
(Kyiv, 10-11 March 2005) 

Integration and diversity: the new frontiers of European 
media and communications policy 

Public consultation on future Council of Europe activities in the media
field 

At a meeting of the Council of Europe's Steering Committee on the Mass
Media (CDMM) on 11-14 May 2004, it was decided to organise the 7th
European Ministerial Conference on Mass Media Policy in Kyiv, Ukraine,
on 10-11 March 2005. The main topics of the Conference will be 1)
freedom of expression and information in times of crisis, 2) cultural
diversity and media pluralism in times of globalisation and 3) human
rights and regulation of the media and new communication services in the
Information Society. 

The CDMM is now preparing the draft political texts (a draft political
declaration, draft resolutions on the three main topics of the
Conference and a draft action plan) to be adopted by the Ministers at
the Conference, outlining priorities for future work within the Council
of Europe in the area of media law and policy. In this context, the CDMM
would like to invite non-governmental organisations working in the media
field in Europe and other interested persons to submit their ideas and
proposals as regards these future activities. The proposals should not
exceed 2 pages and should be sent to the Media Division, in English or
French, by 31 August 2004 (mailto:media@coe.int). They will be analysed
at a meeting of the Bureau of the CDMM on 7-8 September
2004. The results will be subsequently reviewed by the CDMM on 2-5
November 2004. 

The Council of Europe reserves the right to publish any contribution on
its web site unless otherwise stated by the submitting
organisation/person.



From wdrake at ictsd.ch  Tue Jul 13 14:56:20 2004
From: wdrake at ictsd.ch (William Drake)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] WSIS Countering Spam report
In-Reply-To: <OF2E8A16A8.E9C8E819-ONC1256ECF.005543C7@unctad.org>
Message-ID: <MABBIHAAPBEEGMLBDEGOEECADHAA.wdrake@ictsd.ch>

Hi,

For any interested in another view of the meeting, below is a note I sent to
the Internet governance caucus list.

Cheers,

Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: William Drake [mailto:wdrake@ictsd.ch]
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 11:32 AM
To: Governance
Subject: spam and IG meetings in Geneva


Hi,

Two notes for anyone interested.

1.  The 3-day ITU WSIS thematic meeting on spam was interesting but
inconclusive, just the start of a dialogue.  Many speakers reiterated a
standard set of points, e.g. the need for a multipronged approach including
technical, self-regulatory, national legislative, and international
cooperative measures, and the absence of a "silver bullet" solution.  On the
core issue of what kind of international cooperation may be advisable, the
discussion alas failed to get into any sort of focused consideration of
either substantive principles and norms or alternative institutional
arrangements (i.e. regulatory harmonization vs. mutual recognition, MOUs,
etc).  But it was pretty clear that many developing countries, and a few
people from industrialized countries (it was unclear whether they were
really speaking of personal preferences or a settled position of their
governments) favored the idea of a global MOU under ITU, which of course ITU
would welcome.  On the other side, the EU rep repeatedly said international
cooperation is key, and as usual they might like a global approach that
reflects and extends what the commission is doing in the 25,  but what that
means in practice was left vague.  The US of course would not want to see
any kind of international cooperation that involving real rules that
obligated it to do anything about US-based spammers, who are the main source
of the problem but are politically connected, and it's not eager to see the
ITU taking on new functions, even when this could make sense (BTW, I'm told
that the direct marketers and the Republicans on the hill are currently
pushing through legislation to effectively repeal the legal ban on junk
fax---anyone surprised that CAN SPAM was a sham?).  That said, it is easy to
imagine that the sort of approach recently taken by the US-UK-Australia MOU
being scaled up to an OECD-wide instrument.

The open question of course is where that would leave the developing
countries, who really need help.  There's quite a lot of frustration that
the industrialized countries keep telling them that adopting e-government,
e-commerce, e-everything is the key to development, but when they move in
that direction they become awash in all the spam, viruses, and other crap
pouring out of the North over the net, which they're frequently not prepared
to deal with effectively.  An African delegate I chatted with said a lot of
people in his country are getting discouraged from entering further into the
e-world by dialing up expensive and slow connections and finding 90% of the
mail to be garbage.  Expecting that they'll all become power users and keep
up to speed with the latest user side filtering and MS security patches is
unrealistic.  Much more can be done at the ISP level etc but there greater
international technical assistance is required.  Not surprisingly then, many
developing countries want strong international rules etc. backed up by an
institutional arrangement they can work with, i.e. ITU.  ITU-D can certainly
do more on the assistance side within the existing political mix, but has
its limits.  BTW it doesn't appear that the US FTC and parallel agencies in
other OECD countries have much of a working relationship with the developing
countries, many of whom lack similar agencies; part of the problem.

Main point of relevance here are that there was a pretty clear consensus
that international cooperation on spam is regarded to be very much a part of
Internet governance. Nobody contested that point.  The question is what if
anything the UN WGIG can say or do in this terrain given the nascent state
of the wider dialogue and the North-South divisions over what cooperation
should entail.  At a minimum though I'd think it could recommend a
significant increase in North-South technical assistance, which of course is
far less controversial than suggesting actual solutions the US won't accept.
Should the caucus at some point manage to put out some brief position
statements as WGIG inputs, that angle might be something on which everyone
can find common ground.  A user/CS voice is needed here.

The meeting report is at
http://www.itu.int/osg/spu/spam/chairman-report.pdf

2.  The director of ITU-T is organizing an informal consultation on Internet
governance and the role of ITU therein for next Thursday July 15.  This was
originally for heads of delegation but is now open to anyone, if you'll be
passing through
Geneva.http://www.itu.int/dms_pub/itu-t/md/01/tsb/cir/T01-TSB-CIR-0243!!MSW-
E.doc

Cheers,

Bill

******************************************
William J. Drake
Senior Associate
International Centre for Trade
and Sustainable Development www.ictsd.org
Geneva, Switzerland
wdrake@ictsd.ch
http://www.citi.columbia.edu/affiliates/wdrake.htm
******************************************




> -----Original Message-----
> From: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org [mailto:plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org]On
> Behalf Of Ramin.Kaweh@unctad.org
> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 5:37 PM
> To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
> Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] WSIS Countering Spam report
>
>
>
> Dear All,
>
> Please see a brief report on the WSIS-related thematic meeting on
> Countering Spam
> which was held in Geneva from 7-9 July 2004 under the "News section" at:
> http://www.un-ngls.org/wsis.htm
>
> Best regards,
> Ramin
>
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> Ramin Kaweh
> Programme Officer
> UN-NGLS (Non-Governmental Liaison Service)
> Palais des Nations
> 1211 Geneva 10
> Switzerland
> tel:  0041.22. 917 2078
> fax: 0041.22. 917 0432
> ramin.kaweh@unctad.org
> www.un-ngls.org
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>
>
>
>
>



From kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de  Tue Jul 13 14:59:27 2004
From: kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Wolfgang_Kleinw=E4chter?=)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: AW: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Council of Europe CfP on Mass Media Policy
Message-ID: 
 <ACADB74FBBEFD94795A03FDBBDE62D370D7D38@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de>

It would be important, at least fort he Media Caucus, to accept the offer and to make a contribution. The situation in the Ukraine is not so much different from the situation in Tunisia. Ministerial meetings of the Council of Europe are normally closed to governments. Did anyone ask for the rules of procedures with regard to non-governmental actors?

Best

Wolfgang



-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org [mailto:plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org] Im Auftrag von Ralf Bendrath
Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. Juli 2004 15:01
An: wsis-cs-plenary
Betreff: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Council of Europe CfP on Mass Media Policy

Sounds almost like a regional-thematic WSIS meeting. I wonder if the CoE
registers it as such.

Ralf

----------------------------
<http://www.coe.int/T/E/human_rights/media/7_Links/consultation_announcement_E.asp>

7th European Ministerial Conference on Mass Media Policy 
(Kyiv, 10-11 March 2005) 

Integration and diversity: the new frontiers of European 
media and communications policy 

Public consultation on future Council of Europe activities in the media
field 

At a meeting of the Council of Europe's Steering Committee on the Mass
Media (CDMM) on 11-14 May 2004, it was decided to organise the 7th
European Ministerial Conference on Mass Media Policy in Kyiv, Ukraine,
on 10-11 March 2005. The main topics of the Conference will be 1)
freedom of expression and information in times of crisis, 2) cultural
diversity and media pluralism in times of globalisation and 3) human
rights and regulation of the media and new communication services in the
Information Society. 

The CDMM is now preparing the draft political texts (a draft political
declaration, draft resolutions on the three main topics of the
Conference and a draft action plan) to be adopted by the Ministers at
the Conference, outlining priorities for future work within the Council
of Europe in the area of media law and policy. In this context, the CDMM
would like to invite non-governmental organisations working in the media
field in Europe and other interested persons to submit their ideas and
proposals as regards these future activities. The proposals should not
exceed 2 pages and should be sent to the Media Division, in English or
French, by 31 August 2004 (mailto:media@coe.int). They will be analysed
at a meeting of the Bureau of the CDMM on 7-8 September
2004. The results will be subsequently reviewed by the CDMM on 2-5
November 2004. 

The Council of Europe reserves the right to publish any contribution on
its web site unless otherwise stated by the submitting
organisation/person.


_______________________________________________
Plenary mailing list
Plenary@wsis-cs.org
http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/plenary



From bendrath at zedat.fu-berlin.de  Tue Jul 13 16:09:39 2004
From: bendrath at zedat.fu-berlin.de (Ralf Bendrath)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: AW: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Council of Europe CfP on Mass Media Policy
References: <ACADB74FBBEFD94795A03FDBBDE62D370D7D38@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de>
Message-ID: <40F3FB33.18C4BA3A@zedat.fu-berlin.de>

Wolfgang and all,

Wolfgang Kleinw?chter wrote:

> Did anyone ask for the rules of procedures with regard to non-governmental actors?
> In this context, the CDMM
> would like to invite non-governmental organisations working in the media
> field in Europe and other interested persons to submit their ideas and
> proposals as regards these future activities. 

This at least sounds pretty open to me. I would assume that you should
be able to participate and maybe even present your ideas when there is a
call for contributions explicitly inviting NGOs.

Ralf


From bendrath at zedat.fu-berlin.de  Tue Jul 13 16:39:34 2004
From: bendrath at zedat.fu-berlin.de (Ralf Bendrath)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] TACD Future of WIPO meeting, September
Message-ID: <40F40236.65528C63@zedat.fu-berlin.de>

As "intellectual property" and software patents were a big issue during
WSIS phase one, this will interest a lot of people, I guess. 
And it's in the old PrepCom venue, for the melancolics among you. ;-)

Ralf

----------------------------------------------------------

On September 13 and 14, the TransAtlantic Consumer Dialogue (TACD) will
host a two-day meeting in Geneva on the Future of WIPO.  The meeting
will bring together leading experts and stakeholders from academia,
industry, NGOs, and governments, as well as members of the WIPO
secretariat, to discuss the future of this United Nations Agency. 

(Registration Information given below)



                         Announcement
          The TransAtlantic Consumer Dialogue (TACD)
                           Workshop

                      The Future of WIPO
                        September 13-14
                         CICG, Geneva

Program (v1.4)

Monday, September 13, 2004

Welcome

      Jim Murray -- TACD / BEUC
      US TACD Rep. TBA

Panel 1 -- What is the WIPO Mission?

Chair, Benedicte Federspiel, FBR
Panel Members:
      Mr. Philippe PETIT , WIPO, invited
      Rogier Wezenbeek, European Union
      Larry Lessig, Stanford
      Sisule Musungu, South Centre
      Sir John Sulston, the Sanger Institution

Panel 2 --  WIPO and the Information Society I

Chair:  Manon Ress, CPTech
Panel Members
      Richard Owens, WIPO
      Jukka Liedes, Ministry of Education and Culture,
Finland
      Volker Grassmuck, Humbold University Berlin,
      Michael Keplinger, USPTO
      Yochai Benkler, Yale

Panel 3  -- WIPO and Medical technologies

Chair, Sarah Lenz Lock, AARP
Panel Members
      Antony Taubman, WIPO
      Ellen 't Hoen, MSF
      Tim Hubbard, Sanger Institution
      Eric Noehrenberg, IFPMA
      Sir John Sulston, the Sanger Institution
      William W. Fisher III, Harvard

Panel 4  --  WIPO and the Arts -- Relationships between artists, owners
of works, the public

Chair:    Machiel van der Velde Consumentenbond
Panel Members
      Publisher TBA
      Nick Ashton-Hart, Music Managers Association
      Cory Doctorow, EFF
      James Boyle, Duke University
      Yochai Benkler, Yale

Panel 5  -- WIPO and Technical Assistance.

Chairman: Anna Fielder, Consumers International
Panel Members
      Donny Cruz, WIPO
      Anthony So, Duke University
      Martin Khor, Third World Network
      David Vivas, ICTSD
      Jerome Reichman, Duke

-----------------------------------------------------------

Tuesday, September 14, 2004

Panel 6  --   The role of WIPO in the area of patents

Chair:   Mark Silbergeld, Consumer Federation of America
Panel Members:
      Philippe Baechtold, WIPO
      Richard Stallman, Free Software Foundation
      Philippe Aigrain, Sopinspace, Society for Public Information
Spaces
      Brian Kahin, University of Michigan
      D.G. Shah, Indian Pharmaceutical Alliance

Panel 7 --  WIPO and the Information Society II

Chair:    Ed Mierzwinski, PIRG
Panel Members
      Shira Perlmutter, Time-Warner
      Sarah Deutsch, Verizon
      Dr. Sothi Rachagan, Consumers International
      James Boyle, Duke University
      Publisher rep. TBA
      Richard Owens, WIPO, respondent

Panel 8 -- WIPO's and Access to Generic Resources,
Traditional Knowledge, and Folklore

Chair:    Michelle Childs, Consumers International
Panel Members
Panel Members:
      Tony Taubman, WIPO
      Chee Yoke Ling, Third World Network
      Richard Stallman, Free Software Foundation
      Maria Julia Oliva, CIEL

Panel 9 -- What should the new WIPO mission be?

Chair:    TBA, Consumers International
Speakers
      Geoffrey Yu, WIPO (invited)
      James Love, CPTech
      Preeti Saran, India - Representative to WIPO
      Darius Cuplinskas, OSI
      Martin Khor, Third World Network
      Benedicte Federspiel, FBR


To register for this event (no fee), contact:

Ben Wallis
Transatlantic Consumer Dialogue Coordinator
Consumers International
mailto:bwallis@consint.org
24 Highbury Crescent
London N5 1RX
Tel: +44 20 7226 6663 Ext. 218

Location of event:
http://www.cicg.ch/

From beja2310 at yahoo.fr  Tue Jul 13 18:12:34 2004
From: beja2310 at yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?amel=20bejaoui?=)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: AW: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Council of Europe CfP on Mass Media Policy
In-Reply-To: <ACADB74FBBEFD94795A03FDBBDE62D370D7D38@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de>
Message-ID: <20040713171234.96376.qmail@web52510.mail.yahoo.com>

Cher Monsieur,
 
Je ne suis pas tr?s sure d'avoir tr?s bien compris votre message r?dig? -h?las- seulement en anglais. Mais il me semble que le contenu pourrait interess? notre Syndicat des Journalistes Tunisiens (S.J.T) Ind?pendant. Puis-je vous demander une version fran?aise pour assurer un suivi avec mes coll?gues.
 
Respect
 
Pour le Comit? constitutif
Amel Bejaoui
Charg?e des Relations Ext?rieures

Wolfgang_Kleinw?chter <kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de> wrote:
It would be important, at least fort he Media Caucus, to accept the offer and to make a contribution. The situation in the Ukraine is not so much different from the situation in Tunisia. Ministerial meetings of the Council of Europe are normally closed to governments. Did anyone ask for the rules of procedures with regard to non-governmental actors?

Best

Wolfgang



-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org [mailto:plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org] Im Auftrag von Ralf Bendrath
Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. Juli 2004 15:01
An: wsis-cs-plenary
Betreff: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Council of Europe CfP on Mass Media Policy

Sounds almost like a regional-thematic WSIS meeting. I wonder if the CoE
registers it as such.

Ralf

----------------------------


7th European Ministerial Conference on Mass Media Policy 
(Kyiv, 10-11 March 2005) 

Integration and diversity: the new frontiers of European 
media and communications policy 

Public consultation on future Council of Europe activities in the media
field 

At a meeting of the Council of Europe's Steering Committee on the Mass
Media (CDMM) on 11-14 May 2004, it was decided to organise the 7th
European Ministerial Conference on Mass Media Policy in Kyiv, Ukraine,
on 10-11 March 2005. The main topics of the Conference will be 1)
freedom of expression and information in times of crisis, 2) cultural
diversity and media pluralism in times of globalisation and 3) human
rights and regulation of the media and new communication services in the
Information Society. 

The CDMM is now preparing the draft political texts (a draft political
declaration, draft resolutions on the three main topics of the
Conference and a draft action plan) to be adopted by the Ministers at
the Conference, outlining priorities for future work within the Council
of Europe in the area of media law and policy. In this context, the CDMM
would like to invite non-governmental organisations working in the media
field in Europe and other interested persons to submit their ideas and
proposals as regards these future activities. The proposals should not
exceed 2 pages and should be sent to the Media Division, in English or
French, by 31 August 2004 (mailto:media@coe.int). They will be analysed
at a meeting of the Bureau of the CDMM on 7-8 September
2004. The results will be subsequently reviewed by the CDMM on 2-5
November 2004. 

The Council of Europe reserves the right to publish any contribution on
its web site unless otherwise stated by the submitting
organisation/person.


_______________________________________________
Plenary mailing list
Plenary@wsis-cs.org
http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/plenary


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Bonjour ? tous,

Plusieurs d'entre vous nous ont fait part de leur frustration - et de 
leur col?re - de ne pouvoir acc?der aux articles d'Alternatives 
citoyennes, puisque le site de notre journal ?lectronique est censur? 
en Tunisie, de m?me que plusieurs autres sites ind?pendants 
d'information et de d?bat.

Nous ne souhaitons pas envoyer ? tout le monde, via cette liste de 
diffusion, l'int?gralit? de tous les articles : chacun doit choisir ce 
qu'il souhaite lire sans se voir imposer la totalit? du num?ro publi?, 
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ont ?t? r?alis?s essentiellement pour permettre d'acc?der au web ? ceux 
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From ajp at glocom.ac.jp  Wed Jul 14 06:05:04 2004
From: ajp at glocom.ac.jp (Adam Peake)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: ICANN workshop on WSIS
In-Reply-To: <p06110446bd1981627735@[192.168.1.254]>
References: <a0611042fbd1902c5b7df@[192.168.1.68]>
 <6.1.2.0.2.20040713120642.031e5378@193.200.15.187>
 <6.1.1.1.0.20040713125507.01f0bec0@pop.gn.apc.org>
 <p06110446bd1981627735@[192.168.1.254]>
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>ICANN meetings are free and open to all to 
>attend.  Organizers typically like people to 
>pre-register, but not a requirement I think.
>
>Information about the Kuala Lumpur meeting here 
><http://www.icann.org/meetings/kualalumpur/>
>
>Also, please encourage people to attend the Non 
>Commercial Users Constituency Meeting, it will 
>be held on Monday July 19, in the Penang room, 
>Shangri-La Hotel.  Time unfortunately not yet 
>confirmed.



The NCUC meeting will be on the afternoon of 
Monday July 19, most likely starting at about 
1:30PM.

Interesting looking workshop on Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs)
<http://www.icann.org/meetings/kualalumpur/idn-workshop-08jul04.htm>, 
Wednesday, July 21 (open meeting, free)

Thanks,

Adam




>Thanks,
>
>Adam
>
>
>At 12:55 PM +0100 7/13/04, karen banks wrote:
>>hi veni
>>
>>thanks for this, is it an open meeting? ie, can 
>>i invite colleagues from Malaysia to attend?
>>
>>karen
>>
>>>?Workshop on the World Summit on the 
>>>Information Society (WSIS): Issues of 
>>>Relevance to ICANN and Next Steps? scheduled 
>>>for Tuesday, 20 July 2004 from 08:30 ? 10:00 
>>>in the Shangri-La Hotel?s Grand Ballroom, 
>>>Kuala Lumpur.
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Plenary mailing list
>>Plenary@wsis-cs.org
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From mueller at syr.edu  Thu Jul 15 15:50:34 2004
From: mueller at syr.edu (Milton Mueller)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Civil society activism and Communication-information policy
Message-ID: <s0f6617f.047@gwia201.syr.edu>

This may be of interest....

======
Syracuse University's Convergence Center releases report 
on citizens' role in shaping communication and information 
policy
======

"Reinventing Media Activism: Public Interest Advocacy 
in the Making of U.S. Communication-Information Policy, 
1960-2002" 

The research report analyzes the role of citizens groups in 
shaping communication and information policy. The full report 
and the data on which it was based can be downloaded for 
free at http://dcc.syr.edu/ford/tnca.htm 

The study traces the evolution of citizen advocacy from the 
broadcast licensing challenges of the late 1960s and 1970s 
through the telecommunication regulation reforms of the 
1980s, the battles over privacy and Internet censorship of 
the 1990s and the conflicts over digital intellectual property 
and media concentration in the early 2000s. 

The report had its genesis in a realization that there was 
no long-term, strategic analysis of public interest advocacy 
around communication and information policy, despite the 
fact that philanthropic foundations and members fund such 
groups and many people join or support them. 

For activists and policy-oriented advocacy groups, the 
report provides a sense of historical perspective, an analysis 
of different modes of advocacy used in communication and 
information policy, and an assessment of its sources of 
strength and its weaknesses. 

"This is a long-term analysis of organized efforts by citizens 
to change public policy toward communication and 
information," says the report's principal author, Professor 
Milton Mueller of the Syracuse University School of 
Information Studies

The research was funded by the Ford Foundation's 
Knowledge, Creativity and Freedom Program. 

Report Summary:

Chapter 1: A Vision of the Policy Domain
We define and defend a vision of communication and information 
policy (CIP) as a comprehensive and integrated policy domain. 
We also define and describe the three primary modes of advocacy 
around CIP issues.

Chapter 2: A Goal: Institutional Change
We draw on theories of institutions and institutional change to 
provide both a goal for specifying what citizen collective action 
could achieve, and a benchmark for assessing its impact.

Chapter 3: A Bird's Eye View: Four Decades of Congressional 
Activity and Interest Group Organization in CIP
A macroscopic overview of the quantitative data. 

Chapter 4: The 1960s and 1970s
We describe and assess the mass media activism of the mid-
1960s and 1970s around broadcasting and cable, the period 
of the most rapid rate of growth in the population. 

Chapter 5: The 1980s
We describe how the 1980s was characterized by major 
changes in both the political climate and the type of 
communication-information policy issues under consideration. 
We document the appearance of computer professionals and technologists organizing around computer-related policy issues 
in the organizational population for the first time.

Chapter 6: The 1990s and early 2000s
We show how digital technology became the focal point of 
institutional change in CIP, leading to an explosion of 
Congressional activity, bringing in a new generation of advocacy 
groups and creating a major change in the composition of the 
advocacy organization population.

Chapter 7: Conclusions
We attempt to summarize our findings and draw some conclusions 
about the future of CIP advocacy organizations and their policy 
agenda. 




From kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de  Thu Jul 15 16:55:58 2004
From: kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Wolfgang_Kleinw=E4chter?=)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: AW: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Civil society activism and
 Communication-information policy
Message-ID: 
 <ACADB74FBBEFD94795A03FDBBDE62D3706D786@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de>

Congratulations Milton. This will help to understand, that we have to put the Microcosmos ICANN and the Midicosmos WSIS into the Macrocosmos of the global world problems. Bur we have to look also beyond US and Congressional Hearings. Hope that the next US administration is more aware about multilatralism and multistaholderism on the global level. In my own academic research, WSIS marks indeed a turning point in dealing with Informaiton question on the diplomatic level, from top down to bottom up, for governmental muni- and multilatralism to multistakeholderism. While this issue was a subject of inter-governmental negotiations since information crossed boders in a substantial quantity (and become a ressource with a commercial value) - the first "international media treaty" was the "Treaty of Carlsbad" from 1819, regulating the cross border transport of printed material (an incredible censorship treaty), followed by a dozen and more international conventions and the creation of a system of intergovernmental organisations - the failure and collapse of the UNESCO NWIKO debate in the 1970s and 1980s marked the end of the governmental top down approach to information and communicaiton issues. Unfortunately my own WSIS book "Power and Money in Cyberspace: How WSIS Framed the Future", whre I go through this hisotry, is in German only. It will be available in the end of July 2004. BTW, my first book, published in 1988, was titled "Worldproblem Information". At this time the UN had four "world problems" on its list: Peace and Security, Natural Ressources, Development and Environment. My proposal at this time in the final phase of the NWICO debate was to add "Information" as a fifth problem. But, as you knw, NWICO ended 1991, but the issue came back from the bottom via the Internet. And this makes things really different. 
 
See you in KL
 
wolfgang
 
  

________________________________

Von: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org im Auftrag von Milton Mueller
Gesendet: Do 15.07.2004 16:50
An: governance@lists.cpsr.org; plenary@wsis-cs.org
Betreff: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Civil society activism and Communication-information policy



This may be of interest....

======
Syracuse University's Convergence Center releases report
on citizens' role in shaping communication and information
policy
======

"Reinventing Media Activism: Public Interest Advocacy
in the Making of U.S. Communication-Information Policy,
1960-2002"

The research report analyzes the role of citizens groups in
shaping communication and information policy. The full report
and the data on which it was based can be downloaded for
free at http://dcc.syr.edu/ford/tnca.htm

The study traces the evolution of citizen advocacy from the
broadcast licensing challenges of the late 1960s and 1970s
through the telecommunication regulation reforms of the
1980s, the battles over privacy and Internet censorship of
the 1990s and the conflicts over digital intellectual property
and media concentration in the early 2000s.

The report had its genesis in a realization that there was
no long-term, strategic analysis of public interest advocacy
around communication and information policy, despite the
fact that philanthropic foundations and members fund such
groups and many people join or support them.

For activists and policy-oriented advocacy groups, the
report provides a sense of historical perspective, an analysis
of different modes of advocacy used in communication and
information policy, and an assessment of its sources of
strength and its weaknesses.

"This is a long-term analysis of organized efforts by citizens
to change public policy toward communication and
information," says the report's principal author, Professor
Milton Mueller of the Syracuse University School of
Information Studies

The research was funded by the Ford Foundation's
Knowledge, Creativity and Freedom Program.

Report Summary:

Chapter 1: A Vision of the Policy Domain
We define and defend a vision of communication and information
policy (CIP) as a comprehensive and integrated policy domain.
We also define and describe the three primary modes of advocacy
around CIP issues.

Chapter 2: A Goal: Institutional Change
We draw on theories of institutions and institutional change to
provide both a goal for specifying what citizen collective action
could achieve, and a benchmark for assessing its impact.

Chapter 3: A Bird's Eye View: Four Decades of Congressional
Activity and Interest Group Organization in CIP
A macroscopic overview of the quantitative data.

Chapter 4: The 1960s and 1970s
We describe and assess the mass media activism of the mid-
1960s and 1970s around broadcasting and cable, the period
of the most rapid rate of growth in the population.

Chapter 5: The 1980s
We describe how the 1980s was characterized by major
changes in both the political climate and the type of
communication-information policy issues under consideration.
We document the appearance of computer professionals and technologists organizing around computer-related policy issues
in the organizational population for the first time.

Chapter 6: The 1990s and early 2000s
We show how digital technology became the focal point of
institutional change in CIP, leading to an explosion of
Congressional activity, bringing in a new generation of advocacy
groups and creating a major change in the composition of the
advocacy organization population.

Chapter 7: Conclusions
We attempt to summarize our findings and draw some conclusions
about the future of CIP advocacy organizations and their policy
agenda.



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Plenary@wsis-cs.org
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From rguerra at lists.privaterra.org  Thu Jul 15 18:32:05 2004
From: rguerra at lists.privaterra.org (Robert Guerra)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Personal comments - let's be clear....
Message-ID: <p06200628bd1c6dc745e2@[192.168.1.251]>

Traduccion en fran?ais - en bas...
Traducc?on de este texto al espa?ol - m?s abajo...


A discussion on this list, and in other CS spaces - about CS 
structures including  is long overdue and much needed. It's been 
called for repeatedly, and I for one am keen for that to happen.  If 
my "interventions" have the effect of generating movement - hey, then 
wonderful. I'd rather not use "problematic language" at times, but it 
seems that being kind and gentile yields no action - and being a bit 
"disruptive" seems to be the only way to  gets people's attention..

Civil Society mentions repeatedly the need for openness and 
transparency - so we should try to practice what we preach as much as 
we can in our own structures around WSIS.


I care enough to spend some of my own personal time, energy and money 
to try to help. I'm not in it for myself, but to help out in as an 
altruistic way as possible. That's always been my aim. You can think 
what you want about me, but what  I always try to be is - open, 
honest, collaborative and  altruistic.

I feel offended and hurt when others see it in another light,  worse 
yet - when they try to discredit me (as has happened in other venues) 
and take my good and honest intentions to be some ploy by outside 
actors to control CS in someway. All i can say is this - i've learned 
the hard way that dealing with CS is something that's difficult and a 
challenge. But, such is life - I'm interested to be in this space, 
and  will  try to do my best. May my actions over the long term speak 
for themselves.

regards

Robert


Translations are below courtesy of Google.com.


#### Fran?ais ####
Une discussion sur cette liste, et dans d'autres espaces de CS - au 
sujet d'inclure de structures de CS est longtemps en retard et si 
n?cessaire.  Il est r?clam? ? plusieurs reprises, et I pour un AM vif 
pour que celui se produise.  si mes "interventions" ont l'effet de 
produire du mouvement - h?, puis merveilleux.  Je ne me servirais pas 
plut?t "d'un langage probl?matique" parfois, mais il semble que ?tant 
les rendements aimables et gentile aucune action - et ?tre un peu 
disruptif semble ?tre la seule mani?re obtient l'attention des 
personnes.  La soci?t? civile mentionne ? plusieurs reprises le 
besoin de franchise et de transparent - ainsi nous devrions essayer 
de pratiquer ce que nous pr?chons autant que nous pouvons.  En 
r?sum?, je m'inqui?te assez pour passer une partie de mon propres 
temps, ?nergie et argent personnels d'essayer d'aider.  Je ne suis 
pas dans lui pour me, mais pour aider dehors dedans comme mani?re 
altruiste comme possible.  Cela est toujours ?t? mon but.  Vous 
pouvez penser ce que vous voulez au sujet de moi, mais ce que 
j'essaye toujours d'?tre est - ouvert, honn?te, de collaboration et 
altruiste.  Je me sens offens? et bless? quand d'autres le voient 
dans une autre lumi?re, plus mauvais pourtant - quand elles essayent 
de me critiquer (comme s'est produit dans d'autres rendez-vous) et de 
prendre mes bonnes et honn?tes intentions d'?tre un certain 
stratag?me par les acteurs ext?rieurs pour commander le CS dans 
someway.  Tout que je puis dire est ceci - j'ai appris la mani?re 
dure que traiter le CS est quelque chose qui est difficile et un 
d?fi.  Mais, telle est la vie - je suis int?ress? d'?tre dans cet 
espace, et essayerai de faire mon meilleur.  Mai mes actions 
au-dessus du long terme parlent pour elles-m?mes.  respect Robert


#### Espa?ol ###
Una discusi?n sobre esta lista, y en otros espacios del CS - sobre 
incluir de las estructuras del CS es de largo atrasado y muy 
necesario.  Se llama para en varias ocasiones, e I para una afilada 
para que ?sa suceda.  si mis "interventions" tienen el efecto de 
generar el movimiento - hey, entonces maravilloso.  No utilizar?a 
algo "lengua problem?tica" ocasionalmente, pero se parece que siendo 
producciones buenas y gentile ninguna acci?n - y el ser un pedacito 
quebrantador se parece ser la ?nica manera consigue la atenci?n de la 
gente.  La sociedad civil menciona en varias ocasiones la necesidad 
de la franqueza y de la transparencia - as? que debemos intentar 
practicar lo que predicamos tanto como podemos.  En resumen, cuido 
bastante para pasar algo de mi propio tiempo, energ?a y dinero 
personales para intentar ayudar.  No estoy en ?l para me, pero ayudar 
hacia fuera adentro como manera altruista como sea posible.  ?se se 
es siempre mi punter?a.  Usted puede pensar lo que usted desea sobre 
m?, pero lo que intento siempre ser soy - abierto, honesto, de 
colaboraci?n y altruista.  Me siento ofendido y lastimado cuando 
otros lo ven en otra luz, peor con todo - cuando intentan 
desacreditarme (como ha sucedido en otros lugares) y tomar mis 
intenciones buenas y honestas de ser un cierto trabajo de los agentes 
exteriores para controlar el CS en someway.  Todo lo que puedo decir 
es ?ste - he aprendido la manera dura que el tratar de CS es algo que 
es dif?cil y un desaf?o.  Pero, tal es vida - estoy interesado estar 
en este espacio, e intentar? hacer mi mejor.  Mayo mis acciones sobre 
el largo plazo hablan para s? mismos.  respeto Roberto






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Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.org>
Privaterra - <http://www.privaterra.org>
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From mueller at syr.edu  Thu Jul 15 20:05:31 2004
From: mueller at syr.edu (Milton Mueller)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: AW: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Civil society activism
	andCommunication-information policy
Message-ID: <s0f69d59.070@gwia201.syr.edu>


>>> kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de 07/15/04 11:55AM >>>
>But we have to look also beyond US and Congressional Hearings. 

Definitely. That is Phase 2 for us. In the current phase of the project,
we concentrate on transnational collective action and international
institutions, including WSIS. 

I suspect that there are major differences in interest group
organization in Europe, Asia and the U.S. The absence of a
parliamentary system in the U.S. means that focused, ideological
positions cannot be represented by parties and so must be
represented by advocacy groups. 

Your theses on NWICO as the end of "top-down" and WSIS as "bottom up" approaches are interesting, and if you feel like working in English I invite you (in my role as associate editor of The Information Society)
to submit something along those lines. 

--MM




From ljeffrey at ecommons.net  Thu Jul 15 20:51:42 2004
From: ljeffrey at ecommons.net (Liss Jeffrey)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: AW: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Civil society activism
  andCommunication-information policy
In-Reply-To: <s0f69d59.070@gwia201.syr.edu>
References: <s0f69d59.070@gwia201.syr.edu>
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20040715153038.034c9c00@mail.bydesign-elab.net>

A comparison with Canada may prove useful on the US question. there are 
substantial differences rooted in part in differences between US and Canada 
on whether government should fund advocacy groups. (Many cdn groups think 
so, and often see private sector as more dangerous than government, quite 
different from picture in US).

Soon I will be able to read your full report Milton, and also to send more 
notes on our off-line thinking about governance and civil society, as 
promised in previous message.

I wonder whether the test is "focused, ideological positions." Perhaps, but 
that may miss the forest for the trees. Mass appeal advocacy groups often 
get fuzzy around the edges, much to the chagrin of their more 
fundamentalist supporters - take the spectrum of views in the environmental 
movements (pardon my pun). Some of us of course are not too keen on narrow 
ideological views. If democracy is in part a pattern of disagreement, then 
the more specific your position, the more opposition you are likely to 
attract. Sticking to generally accepted values, for the sake of agreement 
and general appeal, and elevating style over substance is the prevailing 
pattern everywhere ( if they can get away with it, what party in what 
country post TV is not doing this lowest common denominator dance, I ask?)

It is also important to note the difference in Parliamentary systems 
between first past the post and the variety of proportional representation 
systems. In the latter, more  focused, even extreme groups can go 
somewhere, but in a first past the post system like the Canadian (where the 
issue of proportional representation is very much in debate now), the 
"left" party, The New Democrats did not win so many seats despite an 
increase in popular vote, because they tried to appeal nationally and 
appear credible as possible contenders for federal power,  while the Bloc 
Quebecois did very well by remaining regionally focused (and slyly quiet 
about their ideological slant, pro separation until election night, after 
the votes were counted.).

Sorry if this is too off track -- over and out
back soon with cs and governance ideas
Liss Jeffrey
eCommons/agora


At 03:05 PM 15/07/2004, Milton Mueller wrote:


> >>> kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de 07/15/04 11:55AM >>>
> >But we have to look also beyond US and Congressional Hearings.
>
>Definitely. That is Phase 2 for us. In the current phase of the project,
>we concentrate on transnational collective action and international
>institutions, including WSIS.
>
>I suspect that there are major differences in interest group
>organization in Europe, Asia and the U.S. The absence of a
>parliamentary system in the U.S. means that focused, ideological
>positions cannot be represented by parties and so must be
>represented by advocacy groups.
>
>Your theses on NWICO as the end of "top-down" and WSIS as "bottom up" 
>approaches are interesting, and if you feel like working in English I 
>invite you (in my role as associate editor of The Information Society)
>to submit something along those lines.
>
>--MM
>
>
>
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From mciver at albany.edu  Thu Jul 15 21:59:14 2004
From: mciver at albany.edu (Bill McIver)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: AW: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Civil society activism 
     andCommunication-information policy
In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20040715153038.034c9c00@mail.bydesign-elab.net>
References: <s0f69d59.070@gwia201.syr.edu>
    <6.0.0.22.2.20040715153038.034c9c00@mail.bydesign-elab.net>
Message-ID: <49296.205.174.172.183.1089925154.squirrel@webmail.albany.edu>

Milton,

Thanks for this.

Liss,

I would be interested to see your comparison as well.

You did not comment on the calls by the Convervative Party in Canada
during the election, albeit in an internal policy briefing, to remake the
CRTC (the rough equivalent to the US FCC).


Best,

WJM

>
> A comparison with Canada may prove useful on the US question. there are
> substantial differences rooted in part in differences between US and
> Canada
> on whether government should fund advocacy groups. (Many cdn groups think
> so, and often see private sector as more dangerous than government, quite
> different from picture in US).
>
> Soon I will be able to read your full report Milton, and also to send more
> notes on our off-line thinking about governance and civil society, as
> promised in previous message.
>
> I wonder whether the test is "focused, ideological positions." Perhaps,
> but
> that may miss the forest for the trees. Mass appeal advocacy groups often
> get fuzzy around the edges, much to the chagrin of their more
> fundamentalist supporters - take the spectrum of views in the
> environmental
> movements (pardon my pun). Some of us of course are not too keen on narrow
> ideological views. If democracy is in part a pattern of disagreement, then
> the more specific your position, the more opposition you are likely to
> attract. Sticking to generally accepted values, for the sake of agreement
> and general appeal, and elevating style over substance is the prevailing
> pattern everywhere ( if they can get away with it, what party in what
> country post TV is not doing this lowest common denominator dance, I ask?)
>
> It is also important to note the difference in Parliamentary systems
> between first past the post and the variety of proportional representation
> systems. In the latter, more  focused, even extreme groups can go
> somewhere, but in a first past the post system like the Canadian (where
> the
> issue of proportional representation is very much in debate now), the
> "left" party, The New Democrats did not win so many seats despite an
> increase in popular vote, because they tried to appeal nationally and
> appear credible as possible contenders for federal power,  while the Bloc
> Quebecois did very well by remaining regionally focused (and slyly quiet
> about their ideological slant, pro separation until election night, after
> the votes were counted.).
>
> Sorry if this is too off track -- over and out
> back soon with cs and governance ideas
> Liss Jeffrey
> eCommons/agora
>
>
> At 03:05 PM 15/07/2004, Milton Mueller wrote:
>
>
>> >>> kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de 07/15/04 11:55AM >>>
>> >But we have to look also beyond US and Congressional Hearings.
>>
>>Definitely. That is Phase 2 for us. In the current phase of the project,
>>we concentrate on transnational collective action and international
>>institutions, including WSIS.
>>
>>I suspect that there are major differences in interest group
>>organization in Europe, Asia and the U.S. The absence of a
>>parliamentary system in the U.S. means that focused, ideological
>>positions cannot be represented by parties and so must be
>>represented by advocacy groups.
>>
>>Your theses on NWICO as the end of "top-down" and WSIS as "bottom up"
>>approaches are interesting, and if you feel like working in English I
>>invite you (in my role as associate editor of The Information Society)
>>to submit something along those lines.
>>
>>--MM
>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Plenary mailing list
>>Plenary@wsis-cs.org
>>http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/plenary
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Plenary@wsis-cs.org
> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/plenary
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USA<br><br>

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From ajp at glocom.ac.jp  Fri Jul 16 05:35:10 2004
From: ajp at glocom.ac.jp (Adam Peake)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Fwd: [governance] 1st Internet Governance open consultation:
 September 	20-21 Geneva
Message-ID: <p06110412bd1d0b403163@[192.168.1.254]>

Apologies, missed to cc the plenary list.

Adam


>
>Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 11:04:17 +0900
>To: governance@lists.cpsr.org
>From: Adam Peake <ajp@glocom.ac.jp>
>Subject: [governance] 1st Internet Governance open consultation: September
>	20-21 Geneva
>
><http://www.itu.int/osg/spu/newslog/categories/internetNamesAndAddresses/2004/07/15.html#a711> 
>Thanks to ITU Strategy and Policy Unit Newslog for this news:
>
>
>
>Markus Kummer, Executive Coordinator at the Secretariat of the 
>Working Group on the Internet Governance (WGIG), has announced to 
>members of the Bureau of the Preparatory Committee of the Tunis 
>phase of the WSIS that the Secretariat on Internet Governance (WGIG) 
>is now set up and has begun to be operational..
>
>  "As outlined at the PrepCom in Hammamet, one of our priorities is 
>to make sure that the process ahead of us is as open, inclusive and 
>transparent as possible. To this end, the Secretariat is organizing 
>consultations open to all Governments and stakeholders on the 
>establishment of the WGIG, its structure and working methods as well 
>as the scope of its work.
>
>The meeting will take place on 20 / 21 September 2004 in Room XVIII, 
>at the Palais des Nations, Geneva. Interpretation in all UN 
>languages will be provided. Governments and all stakeholders are 
>encouraged to submit written electronic contributions on this 
>subject until 13 September to: wgig@unog.ch . More information on 
>this meeting including the draft agenda will be made available in 
>due course on the WGIG website, which is under construction. A link 
>to the WGIG website will be provided from the WSIS Executive 
>Secretariat site at http://www.itu.int/wsis/."
>
>  Mr. Kummer has requested that Bureau regional coordinators make 
>this information available to the members of their respective groups.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From wdrake at ictsd.ch  Fri Jul 16 09:22:56 2004
From: wdrake at ictsd.ch (William Drake)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Civil society activism and Communication-information policy
In-Reply-To: <ACADB74FBBEFD94795A03FDBBDE62D3706D786@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de>
Message-ID: <MABBIHAAPBEEGMLBDEGOMEFLDHAA.wdrake@ictsd.ch>

Hi Wolfgang,

What part of the Carlsbad Decrees restricts cross-border flows?  The only
obviously relevant provision I've found pertains to mutual enforcement of
state laws:

"Each state of the union is responsible, not only to the state against which
the offense is directly committed, but to the whole Confederation, for every
publication appearing under its supervision in which the honor or security
of
other states is infringed or their constitution or administration attacked.
. . "

Actually, the German states were responsible for another treaty of far wider
significance.  The 1850 Treaty of Dresden establishing the Austro-German
Telegraph Union laid down the fundamentals of the international telecom
regime that lasted into the 1990s and provided the core framework for the
development of the global network and policy order based on sovereignty,
inter-national interconnection and standardization, and joint service
provisioning.  Now
dead.(http://www.ceip.org/files/projects/irwp/pdf/draketelecom.pdf  if
you're in need of bed time reading) A very different model of cooperation
from Carlsbad, harmonization rather than mutual recognition and enforcement.
Going forward, this model probably will be applied more selectively in
realms like e-trade and intellectual property.  Metternich's reactionary
treaty may presage the approach to be followed on other issues like spam,
network security, jurisdiction (the Hague conference) etc., alongside that
tired antinomy, industry "self regulation."

One of the challenges for CS in the WGIG and beyond might be to put forward
some public interest-oriented ideas about institutional architectures.
Given how bad a lot of national laws are from human rights and other
standpoints, it's not obvious that mutual enforcement MOUs are all that
ideal.  But governments may be tempted since they're easier...

Best,

Bill


> -----Original Message-----
> From: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org [mailto:plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org]On
> Behalf Of Wolfgang Kleinw?chter
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 5:56 PM
> To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
> Subject: AW: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Civil society activism and
> Communication-information policy
>
>
> Congratulations Milton. This will help to understand, that we
> have to put the Microcosmos ICANN and the Midicosmos WSIS into
> the Macrocosmos of the global world problems. Bur we have to look
> also beyond US and Congressional Hearings. Hope that the next US
> administration is more aware about multilatralism and
> multistaholderism on the global level. In my own academic
> research, WSIS marks indeed a turning point in dealing with
> Informaiton question on the diplomatic level, from top down to
> bottom up, for governmental muni- and multilatralism to
> multistakeholderism. While this issue was a subject of
> inter-governmental negotiations since information crossed boders
> in a substantial quantity (and become a ressource with a
> commercial value) - the first "international media treaty" was
> the "Treaty of Carlsbad" from 1819, regulating the cross border
> transport of printed material (an incredible censorship treaty),
> followed by a dozen and more international conventions and the
> creation of a system of intergovernmental organisations - the
> failure and collapse of the UNESCO NWIKO debate in the 1970s and
> 1980s marked the end of the governmental top down approach to
> information and communicaiton issues. Unfortunately my own WSIS
> book "Power and Money in Cyberspace: How WSIS Framed the Future",
> whre I go through this hisotry, is in German only. It will be
> available in the end of July 2004. BTW, my first book, published
> in 1988, was titled "Worldproblem Information". At this time the
> UN had four "world problems" on its list: Peace and Security,
> Natural Ressources, Development and Environment. My proposal at
> this time in the final phase of the NWICO debate was to add
> "Information" as a fifth problem. But, as you knw, NWICO ended
> 1991, but the issue came back from the bottom via the Internet.
> And this makes things really different.
>
> See you in KL
>
> wolfgang
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> Von: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org im Auftrag von Milton Mueller
> Gesendet: Do 15.07.2004 16:50
> An: governance@lists.cpsr.org; plenary@wsis-cs.org
> Betreff: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Civil society activism and
> Communication-information policy
>
>
>
> This may be of interest....
>
> ======
> Syracuse University's Convergence Center releases report
> on citizens' role in shaping communication and information
> policy
> ======
>
> "Reinventing Media Activism: Public Interest Advocacy
> in the Making of U.S. Communication-Information Policy,
> 1960-2002"
>
> The research report analyzes the role of citizens groups in
> shaping communication and information policy. The full report
> and the data on which it was based can be downloaded for
> free at http://dcc.syr.edu/ford/tnca.htm
>
> The study traces the evolution of citizen advocacy from the
> broadcast licensing challenges of the late 1960s and 1970s
> through the telecommunication regulation reforms of the
> 1980s, the battles over privacy and Internet censorship of
> the 1990s and the conflicts over digital intellectual property
> and media concentration in the early 2000s.
>
> The report had its genesis in a realization that there was
> no long-term, strategic analysis of public interest advocacy
> around communication and information policy, despite the
> fact that philanthropic foundations and members fund such
> groups and many people join or support them.
>
> For activists and policy-oriented advocacy groups, the
> report provides a sense of historical perspective, an analysis
> of different modes of advocacy used in communication and
> information policy, and an assessment of its sources of
> strength and its weaknesses.
>
> "This is a long-term analysis of organized efforts by citizens
> to change public policy toward communication and
> information," says the report's principal author, Professor
> Milton Mueller of the Syracuse University School of
> Information Studies
>
> The research was funded by the Ford Foundation's
> Knowledge, Creativity and Freedom Program.
>
> Report Summary:
>
> Chapter 1: A Vision of the Policy Domain
> We define and defend a vision of communication and information
> policy (CIP) as a comprehensive and integrated policy domain.
> We also define and describe the three primary modes of advocacy
> around CIP issues.
>
> Chapter 2: A Goal: Institutional Change
> We draw on theories of institutions and institutional change to
> provide both a goal for specifying what citizen collective action
> could achieve, and a benchmark for assessing its impact.
>
> Chapter 3: A Bird's Eye View: Four Decades of Congressional
> Activity and Interest Group Organization in CIP
> A macroscopic overview of the quantitative data.
>
> Chapter 4: The 1960s and 1970s
> We describe and assess the mass media activism of the mid-
> 1960s and 1970s around broadcasting and cable, the period
> of the most rapid rate of growth in the population.
>
> Chapter 5: The 1980s
> We describe how the 1980s was characterized by major
> changes in both the political climate and the type of
> communication-information policy issues under consideration.
> We document the appearance of computer professionals and
> technologists organizing around computer-related policy issues
> in the organizational population for the first time.
>
> Chapter 6: The 1990s and early 2000s
> We show how digital technology became the focal point of
> institutional change in CIP, leading to an explosion of
> Congressional activity, bringing in a new generation of advocacy
> groups and creating a major change in the composition of the
> advocacy organization population.
>
> Chapter 7: Conclusions
> We attempt to summarize our findings and draw some conclusions
> about the future of CIP advocacy organizations and their policy
> agenda.
>
>
>
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>
>
>



From wdrake at ictsd.ch  Fri Jul 16 09:38:06 2004
From: wdrake at ictsd.ch (William Drake)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: AW: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Civil society activismandCommunication-information policy
In-Reply-To: <s0f69d59.070@gwia201.syr.edu>
Message-ID: <MABBIHAAPBEEGMLBDEGOGEFMDHAA.wdrake@ictsd.ch>

Hi Milton,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org [mailto:plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org]On
> Behalf Of Milton Mueller

> I suspect that there are major differences in interest group
> organization in Europe, Asia and the U.S. The absence of a
> parliamentary system in the U.S. means that focused, ideological
> positions cannot be represented by parties and so must be
> represented by advocacy groups.

Conversely, the relative absence of philanthropic foundations and supportive
tax laws and a different organizational structure and balance between states
and civil society/ private sector long meant that focused, ideological
positions had to be represented by parties rather than independent advocacy
groups.  The interesting dynamic over the past decade has been the
convergence.  The challenge now is coalitional consolidation, which alas is
much harder.

Ok, basta.

Bill

******************************************
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Senior Associate
International Centre for Trade
and Sustainable Development www.ictsd.org
Geneva, Switzerland
wdrake@ictsd.ch
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From rbloem at ngocongo.org  Fri Jul 16 14:44:20 2004
From: rbloem at ngocongo.org (Renata Bloem)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] TR : Consultations on the establishment of the Working Group on Internet Governance
Message-ID: <001301c46b3b$01c77d70$2101a8c0@Renata>

To all FYI

Renate Bloem
President of the Conference of NGOs (CONGO)
11, Avenue de la Paix
CH-1202 Geneva
Tel: +41 22 301 1000
Fax: +41 22 301 2000
E-mil: rbloem@ngocongo.org
Website: www.ngocongo.org

The Conference of NGOs (CONGO) is an international, membership
association that facilitates the participation of NGOs in United Nations
debates and decisions. Founded in 1948, CONGO's major objective is to
ensure the presence of NGOs in exchanges among the world's governments
and United Nations agencies on issues of global concern.? For more
information see our website at www.ngocongo.org


-----Message d'origine-----
De?: TCHENITI@unog.ch [mailto:TCHENITI@unog.ch] De la part de
WGIG@unog.ch
Envoy??: vendredi, 16. juillet 2004 14:21
??: rbloem@ngocongo.org; tony.hill@unctad.org
Cc?: charles.geiger@itu.int
Objet?: Consultations on the establishment of the Working Group on
Internet Governance


Dear Ms Bloem,
Dear Mr Hill,

I have the pleasure to inform you that the Secretariat of the Working
Group
on Internet Governance (WGIG) is now set up and has begun to be
operational.

As outlined at the PrepCom in Hammamet, one of our priorities is to make
sure that the process ahead of us is as open, inclusive and transparent
as
possible. To this end, the Secretariat is organizing consultations with
Governments and all other stakeholders in the WSIS on the establishment
of
the WGIG, its structure and working methods as well as the scope of its
work.

The meeting will take place on 20 / 21 September 2004 in Room XVIII, at
the
Palais des Nations, Geneva. Interpretation in all UN languages will be
provided. The meeting will be open to representatives of International
Organizations, as well as to participants from NGOs, civil society and
business entities accredited to the WSIS.

Governments and all stakeholders are encouraged to submit written
electronic contributions on this subject until 13 September to:
wgig@unog.ch . More information on this meeting including the draft
agenda
will be made available in due course on the WGIG website, which is under
construction. A link to the WGIG website will be provided from the WSIS
Executive Secretariat site at http://www.itu.int/wsis/ .

I remain at your disposal should you wish to arrange for a briefing
prior
to the meeting in September.

Yours sincerely


Markus Kummer
Executive Coordinator
Secretariat of the Working Group on Internet Governance (WGIG)





From kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de  Fri Jul 16 11:26:38 2004
From: kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Wolfgang_Kleinw=E4chter?=)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: AW: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Civil society activism and
 Communication-information policy
Message-ID: 
 <ACADB74FBBEFD94795A03FDBBDE62D370D7E15@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de>

Dear Bill,

There is a special resolution of the Carlsbad Treaty, called "Press law", adopted September, 20, 1819. 

The text includes the following language.

I. So long as this decree shall remain in force no publication which appears in the form of daily issues, or as a serial not exceeding twenty sheets of printed matter, shall go to press in any state of the union without the previous knowledge and approval of the state officials. 

Writings which do not belong to one of the above-mentioned classes shall be treated according to the laws now in force, or which may be enacted, in the individual states of the union. . . 

4. Each state of the union is responsible, not only to the state against which the offense is directly committed, but to the whole Confederation, for every publication appearing under its supervision in which the honor or security of other states is infringed or their constitution or administration attacked. . . . 

6. The Diet shall have the right, moreover, to suppress on its own authority, without being petitioned, such writings included in Article I, in whatever German state they may appear, as, in the opinion of a commission appointed by it, are inimical to the honor of the union, the safety of individual states, or the maintenance of peace and quiet in Germany. There shall be no appeal from such decisions, and the governments involved are bound to see that they are put into execution. . . . 

7. When a newspaper or periodical is suppressed by a decision of the Diet, the editor thereof may not within a period of five years edit a similar publication in any state of the union.


There were similar resolutions concerning control and surpression of activities within University etc. 

Here is an interesting source from a book, published 1906 in Boston:
http://history.hanover.edu/texts/carlsbad.htm


The "Treaty of Dresden" (1850) is part of a series of bi- und multilateral treaties, which has been concluded in the 1850s and involved also Prussia, Russia, France etc. From this bilateral arrangements came the pressure to look for a more "international system". Here France under Napoleon III. took the initiative. The Paris telegraph Convention was signed in Paris on May, 17, 1865 (five years later we had the German-French War and the Paris Commune). This date is celebrated today annually as the World Telecommunication Day and ITU sees this as its birthday. BTW, the US was not involved in the Paris Negotiations. 

You are absolutely right, that the philosophy of these regimes, based on the priority of national sovereignty, determined the way of thinking until the early 1990s. Even in the NWIKO debate in UNESCO in the 1980s, you could hear arguments and language similar to Carlsbad. And, if you listened carefully to some WSIS delegates, you could discover the same bad old ideas also in Geneva and they will be around in Tunis. 

This is why I see the Internet Governance debate as a turning point in the world history of making international communication regimes. 200 years governmental top down regulation, based on the priority of national sovereignty (and a diplomacy behind closed doors) is confronted with a multistakeholder bottom up policy development process, based on the priority of globalism, the principles of transparency and openness and on C3 (Coordination, Consultation Collaboration).  National sovereignty does not disappear, but it is only one aspect. A Co-Regulatory system has to look into a creative combination of traditional governmental regulation and innovative non-governmental rule-making, not in a hierachical way but in a open ended network-mechanism, where different players with different interests have to share the responsibilities for the common ressources. This is indeed a new challenge which needs a new thinking. 

This makes the real powershift visible and what we see in WSIS and will see in WGIG is a power struggle. But this struggle is different from former struggles, because it is not any more "they against us". There are too many players which can not be grouped easily into either the "red corner" or the "blue corner". And too many players have regardless of their differences common interests. 

So the game has just started and with all the historical knowledge it will be interesting to see what will happen in the first quarter. There is still a long way to go (far beyond Tunis) and probably after 90 minutes we will see an overtime :-(

Best 

Wolfgang


-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org [mailto:plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org] Im Auftrag von William Drake
Gesendet: Freitag, 16. Juli 2004 10:23
An: plenary@wsis-cs.org
Betreff: RE: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Civil society activism and Communication-information policy

Hi Wolfgang,

What part of the Carlsbad Decrees restricts cross-border flows?  The only
obviously relevant provision I've found pertains to mutual enforcement of
state laws:

"Each state of the union is responsible, not only to the state against which
the offense is directly committed, but to the whole Confederation, for every
publication appearing under its supervision in which the honor or security
of
other states is infringed or their constitution or administration attacked.
. . "

Actually, the German states were responsible for another treaty of far wider
significance.  The 1850 Treaty of Dresden establishing the Austro-German
Telegraph Union laid down the fundamentals of the international telecom
regime that lasted into the 1990s and provided the core framework for the
development of the global network and policy order based on sovereignty,
inter-national interconnection and standardization, and joint service
provisioning.  Now
dead.(http://www.ceip.org/files/projects/irwp/pdf/draketelecom.pdf  if
you're in need of bed time reading) A very different model of cooperation
from Carlsbad, harmonization rather than mutual recognition and enforcement.
Going forward, this model probably will be applied more selectively in
realms like e-trade and intellectual property.  Metternich's reactionary
treaty may presage the approach to be followed on other issues like spam,
network security, jurisdiction (the Hague conference) etc., alongside that
tired antinomy, industry "self regulation."

One of the challenges for CS in the WGIG and beyond might be to put forward
some public interest-oriented ideas about institutional architectures.
Given how bad a lot of national laws are from human rights and other
standpoints, it's not obvious that mutual enforcement MOUs are all that
ideal.  But governments may be tempted since they're easier...

Best,

Bill


> -----Original Message-----
> From: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org [mailto:plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org]On
> Behalf Of Wolfgang Kleinw?chter
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 5:56 PM
> To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
> Subject: AW: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Civil society activism and
> Communication-information policy
>
>
> Congratulations Milton. This will help to understand, that we
> have to put the Microcosmos ICANN and the Midicosmos WSIS into
> the Macrocosmos of the global world problems. Bur we have to look
> also beyond US and Congressional Hearings. Hope that the next US
> administration is more aware about multilatralism and
> multistaholderism on the global level. In my own academic
> research, WSIS marks indeed a turning point in dealing with
> Informaiton question on the diplomatic level, from top down to
> bottom up, for governmental muni- and multilatralism to
> multistakeholderism. While this issue was a subject of
> inter-governmental negotiations since information crossed boders
> in a substantial quantity (and become a ressource with a
> commercial value) - the first "international media treaty" was
> the "Treaty of Carlsbad" from 1819, regulating the cross border
> transport of printed material (an incredible censorship treaty),
> followed by a dozen and more international conventions and the
> creation of a system of intergovernmental organisations - the
> failure and collapse of the UNESCO NWIKO debate in the 1970s and
> 1980s marked the end of the governmental top down approach to
> information and communicaiton issues. Unfortunately my own WSIS
> book "Power and Money in Cyberspace: How WSIS Framed the Future",
> whre I go through this hisotry, is in German only. It will be
> available in the end of July 2004. BTW, my first book, published
> in 1988, was titled "Worldproblem Information". At this time the
> UN had four "world problems" on its list: Peace and Security,
> Natural Ressources, Development and Environment. My proposal at
> this time in the final phase of the NWICO debate was to add
> "Information" as a fifth problem. But, as you knw, NWICO ended
> 1991, but the issue came back from the bottom via the Internet.
> And this makes things really different.
>
> See you in KL
>
> wolfgang
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> Von: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org im Auftrag von Milton Mueller
> Gesendet: Do 15.07.2004 16:50
> An: governance@lists.cpsr.org; plenary@wsis-cs.org
> Betreff: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Civil society activism and
> Communication-information policy
>
>
>
> This may be of interest....
>
> ======
> Syracuse University's Convergence Center releases report
> on citizens' role in shaping communication and information
> policy
> ======
>
> "Reinventing Media Activism: Public Interest Advocacy
> in the Making of U.S. Communication-Information Policy,
> 1960-2002"
>
> The research report analyzes the role of citizens groups in
> shaping communication and information policy. The full report
> and the data on which it was based can be downloaded for
> free at http://dcc.syr.edu/ford/tnca.htm
>
> The study traces the evolution of citizen advocacy from the
> broadcast licensing challenges of the late 1960s and 1970s
> through the telecommunication regulation reforms of the
> 1980s, the battles over privacy and Internet censorship of
> the 1990s and the conflicts over digital intellectual property
> and media concentration in the early 2000s.
>
> The report had its genesis in a realization that there was
> no long-term, strategic analysis of public interest advocacy
> around communication and information policy, despite the
> fact that philanthropic foundations and members fund such
> groups and many people join or support them.
>
> For activists and policy-oriented advocacy groups, the
> report provides a sense of historical perspective, an analysis
> of different modes of advocacy used in communication and
> information policy, and an assessment of its sources of
> strength and its weaknesses.
>
> "This is a long-term analysis of organized efforts by citizens
> to change public policy toward communication and
> information," says the report's principal author, Professor
> Milton Mueller of the Syracuse University School of
> Information Studies
>
> The research was funded by the Ford Foundation's
> Knowledge, Creativity and Freedom Program.
>
> Report Summary:
>
> Chapter 1: A Vision of the Policy Domain
> We define and defend a vision of communication and information
> policy (CIP) as a comprehensive and integrated policy domain.
> We also define and describe the three primary modes of advocacy
> around CIP issues.
>
> Chapter 2: A Goal: Institutional Change
> We draw on theories of institutions and institutional change to
> provide both a goal for specifying what citizen collective action
> could achieve, and a benchmark for assessing its impact.
>
> Chapter 3: A Bird's Eye View: Four Decades of Congressional
> Activity and Interest Group Organization in CIP
> A macroscopic overview of the quantitative data.
>
> Chapter 4: The 1960s and 1970s
> We describe and assess the mass media activism of the mid-
> 1960s and 1970s around broadcasting and cable, the period
> of the most rapid rate of growth in the population.
>
> Chapter 5: The 1980s
> We describe how the 1980s was characterized by major
> changes in both the political climate and the type of
> communication-information policy issues under consideration.
> We document the appearance of computer professionals and
> technologists organizing around computer-related policy issues
> in the organizational population for the first time.
>
> Chapter 6: The 1990s and early 2000s
> We show how digital technology became the focal point of
> institutional change in CIP, leading to an explosion of
> Congressional activity, bringing in a new generation of advocacy
> groups and creating a major change in the composition of the
> advocacy organization population.
>
> Chapter 7: Conclusions
> We attempt to summarize our findings and draw some conclusions
> about the future of CIP advocacy organizations and their policy
> agenda.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Plenary@wsis-cs.org
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>
>
>
>
>


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From divinameigs at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 16 16:43:06 2004
From: divinameigs at hotmail.com (Divina FRAU-MEIGS)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: AW: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Civil society activism andCommunication-information
 policy
Message-ID: <BAY22-F8rUV0hCLwHc9000177ff@hotmail.com>


Hi Bill

I am curious about the US congress debates. can you give me more information 
on that please?
thanks
Divina

>From: "Bill McIver" <mciver@albany.edu>
>Reply-To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
>To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
>Subject: Re: AW: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Civil society activism      
>andCommunication-information policy
>Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:59:14 -0400 (EDT)
>
>
>Milton,
>
>Thanks for this.
>
>Liss,
>
>I would be interested to see your comparison as well.
>
>You did not comment on the calls by the Convervative Party in Canada
>during the election, albeit in an internal policy briefing, to remake the
>CRTC (the rough equivalent to the US FCC).
>
>
>Best,
>
>WJM
>
> >
> > A comparison with Canada may prove useful on the US question. there are
> > substantial differences rooted in part in differences between US and
> > Canada
> > on whether government should fund advocacy groups. (Many cdn groups 
>think
> > so, and often see private sector as more dangerous than government, 
>quite
> > different from picture in US).
> >
> > Soon I will be able to read your full report Milton, and also to send 
>more
> > notes on our off-line thinking about governance and civil society, as
> > promised in previous message.
> >
> > I wonder whether the test is "focused, ideological positions." Perhaps,
> > but
> > that may miss the forest for the trees. Mass appeal advocacy groups 
>often
> > get fuzzy around the edges, much to the chagrin of their more
> > fundamentalist supporters - take the spectrum of views in the
> > environmental
> > movements (pardon my pun). Some of us of course are not too keen on 
>narrow
> > ideological views. If democracy is in part a pattern of disagreement, 
>then
> > the more specific your position, the more opposition you are likely to
> > attract. Sticking to generally accepted values, for the sake of 
>agreement
> > and general appeal, and elevating style over substance is the prevailing
> > pattern everywhere ( if they can get away with it, what party in what
> > country post TV is not doing this lowest common denominator dance, I 
>ask?)
> >
> > It is also important to note the difference in Parliamentary systems
> > between first past the post and the variety of proportional 
>representation
> > systems. In the latter, more  focused, even extreme groups can go
> > somewhere, but in a first past the post system like the Canadian (where
> > the
> > issue of proportional representation is very much in debate now), the
> > "left" party, The New Democrats did not win so many seats despite an
> > increase in popular vote, because they tried to appeal nationally and
> > appear credible as possible contenders for federal power,  while the 
>Bloc
> > Quebecois did very well by remaining regionally focused (and slyly quiet
> > about their ideological slant, pro separation until election night, 
>after
> > the votes were counted.).
> >
> > Sorry if this is too off track -- over and out
> > back soon with cs and governance ideas
> > Liss Jeffrey
> > eCommons/agora
> >
> >
> > At 03:05 PM 15/07/2004, Milton Mueller wrote:
> >
> >
> >> >>> kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de 07/15/04 11:55AM >>>
> >> >But we have to look also beyond US and Congressional Hearings.
> >>
> >>Definitely. That is Phase 2 for us. In the current phase of the project,
> >>we concentrate on transnational collective action and international
> >>institutions, including WSIS.
> >>
> >>I suspect that there are major differences in interest group
> >>organization in Europe, Asia and the U.S. The absence of a
> >>parliamentary system in the U.S. means that focused, ideological
> >>positions cannot be represented by parties and so must be
> >>represented by advocacy groups.
> >>
> >>Your theses on NWICO as the end of "top-down" and WSIS as "bottom up"
> >>approaches are interesting, and if you feel like working in English I
> >>invite you (in my role as associate editor of The Information Society)
> >>to submit something along those lines.
> >>
> >>--MM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>Plenary mailing list
> >>Plenary@wsis-cs.org
> >>http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/plenary
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Plenary mailing list
> > Plenary@wsis-cs.org
> > http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/plenary
> >
>
>
>--
><html>
><br>
>Bill McIver<br>
>Assistant Professor<br>
>School of Information Science and Policy<br>
>University at Albany, State University of New York<br>
>Albany, New York 12222<br>
>USA<br><br>
>
>e-mail: <a href="mailto:mciver@albany.edu">mciver@albany.edu</a><br>
>
>URL: <a href="http://www.albany.edu/~mciver">
>http://www.albany.edu/~mciver </a><br>
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From mciver at albany.edu  Sat Jul 17 02:09:41 2004
From: mciver at albany.edu (Bill McIver)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: AW: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Civil society activism 
     andCommunication-informationpolicy
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Divina,

I was refering to Canada, not the US congress.

Here are two links:

The Globe and Mail
TODAY'S PAPER. Why is Harper bent on gutting the CRTC?
By ERIC REGULY Saturday, June 12, 2004 - Page B2, ...
http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20040612/RREGULY12/TPBusiness/Columnists


Canadian Conference of the Arts
... reinforce the authority of the CRTC to better ... Excerpts from the
?Policy Briefing
Note For Canadians?. ... circulated to all 308 Conservative Party
candidates at ...
http://www.ccarts.ca/eng/01new/Bulletin3104.htm

WJM


>
>
> Hi Bill
>
> I am curious about the US congress debates. can you give me more
> information
> on that please?
> thanks
> Divina
>
>>From: "Bill McIver" <mciver@albany.edu>
>>Reply-To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
>>To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
>>Subject: Re: AW: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Civil society activism
>>andCommunication-information policy
>>Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:59:14 -0400 (EDT)
>>
>>
>>Milton,
>>
>>Thanks for this.
>>
>>Liss,
>>
>>I would be interested to see your comparison as well.
>>
>>You did not comment on the calls by the Convervative Party in Canada
>>during the election, albeit in an internal policy briefing, to remake the
>>CRTC (the rough equivalent to the US FCC).
>>
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>WJM
>>
>> >
>> > A comparison with Canada may prove useful on the US question. there
>> are
>> > substantial differences rooted in part in differences between US and
>> > Canada
>> > on whether government should fund advocacy groups. (Many cdn groups
>>think
>> > so, and often see private sector as more dangerous than government,
>>quite
>> > different from picture in US).
>> >
>> > Soon I will be able to read your full report Milton, and also to send
>>more
>> > notes on our off-line thinking about governance and civil society, as
>> > promised in previous message.
>> >
>> > I wonder whether the test is "focused, ideological positions."
>> Perhaps,
>> > but
>> > that may miss the forest for the trees. Mass appeal advocacy groups
>>often
>> > get fuzzy around the edges, much to the chagrin of their more
>> > fundamentalist supporters - take the spectrum of views in the
>> > environmental
>> > movements (pardon my pun). Some of us of course are not too keen on
>>narrow
>> > ideological views. If democracy is in part a pattern of disagreement,
>>then
>> > the more specific your position, the more opposition you are likely to
>> > attract. Sticking to generally accepted values, for the sake of
>>agreement
>> > and general appeal, and elevating style over substance is the
>> prevailing
>> > pattern everywhere ( if they can get away with it, what party in what
>> > country post TV is not doing this lowest common denominator dance, I
>>ask?)
>> >
>> > It is also important to note the difference in Parliamentary systems
>> > between first past the post and the variety of proportional
>>representation
>> > systems. In the latter, more  focused, even extreme groups can go
>> > somewhere, but in a first past the post system like the Canadian
>> (where
>> > the
>> > issue of proportional representation is very much in debate now), the
>> > "left" party, The New Democrats did not win so many seats despite an
>> > increase in popular vote, because they tried to appeal nationally and
>> > appear credible as possible contenders for federal power,  while the
>>Bloc
>> > Quebecois did very well by remaining regionally focused (and slyly
>> quiet
>> > about their ideological slant, pro separation until election night,
>>after
>> > the votes were counted.).
>> >
>> > Sorry if this is too off track -- over and out
>> > back soon with cs and governance ideas
>> > Liss Jeffrey
>> > eCommons/agora
>> >
>> >
>> > At 03:05 PM 15/07/2004, Milton Mueller wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> >>> kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de 07/15/04 11:55AM >>>
>> >> >But we have to look also beyond US and Congressional Hearings.
>> >>
>> >>Definitely. That is Phase 2 for us. In the current phase of the
>> project,
>> >>we concentrate on transnational collective action and international
>> >>institutions, including WSIS.
>> >>
>> >>I suspect that there are major differences in interest group
>> >>organization in Europe, Asia and the U.S. The absence of a
>> >>parliamentary system in the U.S. means that focused, ideological
>> >>positions cannot be represented by parties and so must be
>> >>represented by advocacy groups.
>> >>
>> >>Your theses on NWICO as the end of "top-down" and WSIS as "bottom up"
>> >>approaches are interesting, and if you feel like working in English I
>> >>invite you (in my role as associate editor of The Information Society)
>> >>to submit something along those lines.
>> >>
>> >>--MM
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>_______________________________________________
>> >>Plenary mailing list
>> >>Plenary@wsis-cs.org
>> >>http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/plenary
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Plenary mailing list
>> > Plenary@wsis-cs.org
>> > http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/plenary
>> >
>>
>>
>>--
>><html>
>><br>
>>Bill McIver<br>
>>Assistant Professor<br>
>>School of Information Science and Policy<br>
>>University at Albany, State University of New York<br>
>>Albany, New York 12222<br>
>>USA<br><br>
>>
>>e-mail: <a href="mailto:mciver@albany.edu">mciver@albany.edu</a><br>
>>
>>URL: <a href="http://www.albany.edu/~mciver">
>>http://www.albany.edu/~mciver </a><br>
>></html>
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USA<br><br>

e-mail: <a href="mailto:mciver@albany.edu">mciver@albany.edu</a><br>

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From hans.klein at pubpolicy.gatech.edu  Sun Jul 18 02:01:12 2004
From: hans.klein at pubpolicy.gatech.edu (Hans Klein)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] LAUNCH of INTERNET GOVERNANCE PROJECT
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20040717210102.052aa008@pop.mail.gatech.edu>

                             * * * Please Forward * * *

                         =======================
                             Announcing the Launch
                                        of the
                           Internet Governance Project
                           www.InternetGovernance.org
                         =======================


We are pleased to announce the launch of the Internet Governance Project
(IGP), a multi-university partnership to analyze global Internet policy
issues.  IGP's research agenda is closely related to the on-going United
Nations' review of Internet Governance.

IGP's member institutions include two research centers at Syracuse University:
    - The Convergence Center at the School of Information Studies
    - The Moynihan Institute of Global Affairs at the Maxwell School
and one research center at the Georgia Institute of Technology:
    - The Internet and Public Policy Project (IP3) at the School of Public
      Policy

As its first project IGP is providing the United Nations' Information and
Communication Technologies Task Force (UN ICT TF) a detailed analysis of
global policy regimes. The resulting study will provide a fact-based "map" of
existing global rules for the Internet and the institutions that make those
rules.

IGP's research team includes:
- MILTON MUELLER, Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies
- JOHN R. MATHIASON, Adjunct Professor, Syracuse University Maxwell School of
   Citizenship and Public Affairs
- HANS KLEIN, Assoc. Professor, Georgia Institute of Technology, School of
   Public Policy
- LEE MCKNIGHT, Assoc. Professor, Syracuse University School of Information
   Studies
- MARC HOLITSCHER, Lecturer, Institut f?r Politikwissenschaft der Universit?t
   Z?rich

For information on the relevant UN activities:
	http://www.itu.int/wsis/
For more information on the Internet Governance Project:
	www.InternetGovernance.org
or send an inquiry to:
	info@InternetGovernance.org

###



From ariwae at unl.ac.uk  Sun Jul 18 12:40:51 2004
From: ariwae at unl.ac.uk (ariwae@unl.ac.uk)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: Inyila Cyber Academy,
          Nigeria -  [WSIS CS-Plenary] LAUNCH of INTERNET GOVERNANCE 
     PROJECT
In-Reply-To: 
     <1223.217.35.123.134.1090150708.squirrel@webmail1.londonmet.ac.uk>
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    <1223.217.35.123.134.1090150708.squirrel@webmail1.londonmet.ac.uk>
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Dear All

This is a great idea and success on the Internet Governance applications.

I have a new project in Nigeria addressing similar issues - called Inyila
Cyber Academy (in partnership with the Mobile and Wireless Communication
agenda for e-community linking 14 villages) We hope to secure
international funding to facilitate this positive agenda to enable grass
root infrastructure provision and resource allocation)

This project was discussed in a The DallasCon - which was a wireless
communication conference held in the United States this year.

I hope collaborate with other similar project and research development
globally to energise the positive agenda of the United Nations

I look forward to your reply


Ezendu Ariwa


















> Dear All
>
> This is a great idea and success on the Internet Governance applications.
>
> I have a new project in Nigeria addressing similar issues - called Inyila
> Cyber Academy (in aprtnership with the Mobile and Wireless Communication
> agenda for e-community linking 14 villages) We hope to secure
> international funding to facilitate this positive agenda to enable grass
> root infrastructure provision and resource allocation)
>
> This project was discussed in a The DallasCon - which was a wireless
> communication conference held in the United States this year.
>
> I hope collaborate with other similar project and research development
> globally to energise the positive agenda of the United Nations
>
> I look forward to your reply
>
>
> Ezendu Ariwa
>
>
>
>>                              * * * Please Forward * * *
>>
>>                          ======================
>>  Announcing the Launch
>>                                         of the
>>                            Internet Governance Project
>>                            www.InternetGovernance.org
>>                          ====================We are pleased to announce
>> the launch of the Internet Governance Project
>> (IGP), a multi-university partnership to analyze global Internet policy
>> issues.  IGP's research agenda is closely related to the on-going United
>> Nations' review of Internet Governance.
>>
>> IGP's member institutions include two research centers at Syracuse
>> University:
>>     - The Convergence Center at the School of Information Studies
>>     - The Moynihan Institute of Global Affairs at the Maxwell School
>> and one research center at the Georgia Institute of Technology:
>>     - The Internet and Public Policy Project (IP3) at the School of
>> Public
>>       Policy
>>
>> As its first project IGP is providing the United Nations' Information
>> and
>> Communication Technologies Task Force (UN ICT TF) a detailed analysis of
>> global policy regimes. The resulting study will provide a fact-based
>> "map"
>> of
>> existing global rules for the Internet and the institutions that make
>> those
>> rules.
>>
>> IGP's research team includes:
>> - MILTON MUELLER, Professor, Syracuse University School of Information
>> Studies
>> - JOHN R. MATHIASON, Adjunct Professor, Syracuse University Maxwell
>> School
>> of
>>    Citizenship and Public Affairs
>> - HANS KLEIN, Assoc. Professor, Georgia Institute of Technology, School
>> of
>>    Public Policy
>> - LEE MCKNIGHT, Assoc. Professor, Syracuse University School of
>> Information
>>    Studies
>> - MARC HOLITSCHER, Lecturer, Institut f?r Politikwissenschaft der
>> Universit?t
>>    Z?rich
>>
>> For information on the relevant UN activities:
>> 	http://www.itu.int/wsis/
>> For more information on the Internet Governance Project:
>> 	www.InternetGovernance.org
>> or send an inquiry to:
>> 	info@InternetGovernance.org
>>
>> ###
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Plenary mailing list
>> Plenary@wsis-cs.org
>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/plenary
>>
>
>


From ariwae at unl.ac.uk  Sun Jul 18 12:38:28 2004
From: ariwae at unl.ac.uk (ariwae@unl.ac.uk)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: Inyila Cyber Academy,
      Nigeria -  [WSIS CS-Plenary] LAUNCH of INTERNET GOVERNANCE PROJECT
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References: <5.2.1.1.2.20040717210102.052aa008@pop.mail.gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <1223.217.35.123.134.1090150708.squirrel@webmail1.londonmet.ac.uk>

Dear All

This is a great idea and success on the Internet Governance applications.

I have a new project in Nigeria addressing similar issues - called Inyila
Cyber Academy (in aprtnership with the Mobile and Wireless Communication
agenda for e-community linking 14 villages) We hope to secure
international funding to facilitate this positive agenda to enable grass
root infrastructure provision and resource allocation)

This project was discussed in a The DallasCon - which was a wireless
communication conference held in the United States this year.

I hope collaborate with other similar project and research development
globally to energise the positive agenda of the United Nations

I look forward to your reply


Ezendu Ariwa



>                              * * * Please Forward * * *
>
>                          ======================
>  Announcing the Launch
>                                         of the
>                            Internet Governance Project
>                            www.InternetGovernance.org
>                          ====================We are pleased to announce
> the launch of the Internet Governance Project
> (IGP), a multi-university partnership to analyze global Internet policy
> issues.  IGP's research agenda is closely related to the on-going United
> Nations' review of Internet Governance.
>
> IGP's member institutions include two research centers at Syracuse
> University:
>     - The Convergence Center at the School of Information Studies
>     - The Moynihan Institute of Global Affairs at the Maxwell School
> and one research center at the Georgia Institute of Technology:
>     - The Internet and Public Policy Project (IP3) at the School of Public
>       Policy
>
> As its first project IGP is providing the United Nations' Information and
> Communication Technologies Task Force (UN ICT TF) a detailed analysis of
> global policy regimes. The resulting study will provide a fact-based "map"
> of
> existing global rules for the Internet and the institutions that make
> those
> rules.
>
> IGP's research team includes:
> - MILTON MUELLER, Professor, Syracuse University School of Information
> Studies
> - JOHN R. MATHIASON, Adjunct Professor, Syracuse University Maxwell School
> of
>    Citizenship and Public Affairs
> - HANS KLEIN, Assoc. Professor, Georgia Institute of Technology, School of
>    Public Policy
> - LEE MCKNIGHT, Assoc. Professor, Syracuse University School of
> Information
>    Studies
> - MARC HOLITSCHER, Lecturer, Institut f?r Politikwissenschaft der
> Universit?t
>    Z?rich
>
> For information on the relevant UN activities:
> 	http://www.itu.int/wsis/
> For more information on the Internet Governance Project:
> 	www.InternetGovernance.org
> or send an inquiry to:
> 	info@InternetGovernance.org
>
> ###
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Plenary mailing list
> Plenary@wsis-cs.org
> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/plenary
>


From nick at takingitglobal.org  Sun Jul 18 14:41:45 2004
From: nick at takingitglobal.org (Nick Moraitis)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Wanted: New Youth Caucus Facilitator
Message-ID: <20040718141004.0FC2614B622@mail.gn.apc.org>

Dear CS Bureau and Plenary,

As you might be aware, the Youth Caucus is currently undergoing a selection
process to identify a new facilitator. (I am stepping aside from the role of
facilitator, but will remain involved in different ways). 

If you know anyone who might be interested in this task, please see the
files at the following address below.

DETAILED ROLE DESCRIPTION:
http://files.tiggroups.org/7617/WSIS_YC_Selection_-_Role_Description.doc.wor
d

CRITERIA FOR SELECTION:
http://files.tiggroups.org/7614/WSIS_YC_Selection_-_Criteria.doc.word

APPLICATION FORM:
http://files.tiggroups.org/7615/WSIS_YC_Selection_-_Application.doc.word

If you have any trouble opening these files, just email me.

A selection committee has been formed made up of members of the youth caucus
from diverse regions and backgrounds.

Applications close on the 25th of July. While it is valuable to have
participated in the WSIS before, exceptional candidates without such
experience will be considered!

Currently the Youth Caucus Facilitator is a volunteer position. If your
organization is able to provide any support towards the very significant
amount of work that this role involves, please contact me - it would be very
very much appreciated. There are exciting opportunities to coordinate
activities around Tunis, other global ICT policy forums, and at the national
level.

Best wishes,
Nick

Nick Moraitis
Strategic Development Coordinator
TakingITGlobal
http://about.takingitglobal.org
http://profiles.takingitglobal.org/nick
nick@takingitglobal.org 




From mclauglm at po.muohio.edu  Sun Jul 18 16:29:49 2004
From: mclauglm at po.muohio.edu (mclauglm@po.muohio.edu)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] LAUNCH of INTERNET GOVERNANCE PROJECT
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20040717210102.052aa008@pop.mail.gatech.edu>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20040717210102.052aa008@pop.mail.gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <p06010202bd2047d539e6@[192.168.1.100]>

This sounds like a worthwhile project; however, 
respectfully, I would like to suggest that you 
consider diversifying your research team. So far 
as I can judge from the following names, there 
are no women, no persons of color, and no persons 
from the Global South who are involved as central 
figures in your research project.

Thanks,

Lisa McLaughlin


>                             * * * Please Forward * * *
>
>                         =======================
>                             Announcing the Launch
>                                        of the
>                           Internet Governance Project
>                           www.InternetGovernance.org
>                         =======================
>
>
>We are pleased to announce the launch of the Internet Governance Project
>(IGP), a multi-university partnership to analyze global Internet policy
>issues.  IGP's research agenda is closely related to the on-going United
>Nations' review of Internet Governance.
>
>IGP's member institutions include two research centers at Syracuse University:
>    - The Convergence Center at the School of Information Studies
>    - The Moynihan Institute of Global Affairs at the Maxwell School
>and one research center at the Georgia Institute of Technology:
>    - The Internet and Public Policy Project (IP3) at the School of Public
>      Policy
>
>As its first project IGP is providing the United Nations' Information and
>Communication Technologies Task Force (UN ICT TF) a detailed analysis of
>global policy regimes. The resulting study will provide a fact-based "map" of
>existing global rules for the Internet and the institutions that make those
>rules.
>
>IGP's research team includes:
>- MILTON MUELLER, Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies
>- JOHN R. MATHIASON, Adjunct Professor, Syracuse University Maxwell School of
>   Citizenship and Public Affairs
>- HANS KLEIN, Assoc. Professor, Georgia Institute of Technology, School of
>   Public Policy
>- LEE MCKNIGHT, Assoc. Professor, Syracuse University School of Information
>   Studies
>- MARC HOLITSCHER, Lecturer, Institut f?r Politikwissenschaft der Universit?t
>   Z?rich
>
>For information on the relevant UN activities:
>	http://www.itu.int/wsis/
>For more information on the Internet Governance Project:
>	www.InternetGovernance.org
>or send an inquiry to:
>	info@InternetGovernance.org
>
>###
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Plenary mailing list
>Plenary@wsis-cs.org
>http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/plenary


From mavic at isiswomen.org  Mon Jul 19 00:53:47 2004
From: mavic at isiswomen.org (Mavic)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] LAUNCH of INTERNET GOVERNANCE PROJECT
In-Reply-To: <p06010202bd2047d539e6@[192.168.1.100]>
References: <5.2.1.1.2.20040717210102.052aa008@pop.mail.gatech.edu>
 <5.2.1.1.2.20040717210102.052aa008@pop.mail.gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040719074243.03bf8610@202.57.74.189>

Dear Lisa,

Thanks for raising that very important point.

To the research team:

How can women and men from the Global South take part in this research --as 
researchers or part of the research team and not just as respondents or 
subjects?

I visited the www.InternetGovernance.org site to find some information on 
the research design but there was none unfortunately.

If there is an opening for collaboration, I would be pleased to discuss 
this with people from the University of the Philippines and the 
Chulalongkorn University in Thailand.

Mavic Cabrera-Balleza

At 11:29 AM 7/18/04 -0400, you wrote:
>This sounds like a worthwhile project; however, respectfully, I would like 
>to suggest that you consider diversifying your research team. So far as I 
>can judge from the following names, there are no women, no persons of 
>color, and no persons from the Global South who are involved as central 
>figures in your research project.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Lisa McLaughlin
>
>
>>                             * * * Please Forward * * *
>>
>>                         =======================
>>                             Announcing the Launch
>>                                        of the
>>                           Internet Governance Project
>>                           www.InternetGovernance.org
>>                         =======================
>>
>>
>>We are pleased to announce the launch of the Internet Governance Project
>>(IGP), a multi-university partnership to analyze global Internet policy
>>issues.  IGP's research agenda is closely related to the on-going United
>>Nations' review of Internet Governance.
>>
>>IGP's member institutions include two research centers at Syracuse 
>>University:
>>    - The Convergence Center at the School of Information Studies
>>    - The Moynihan Institute of Global Affairs at the Maxwell School
>>and one research center at the Georgia Institute of Technology:
>>    - The Internet and Public Policy Project (IP3) at the School of Public
>>      Policy
>>
>>As its first project IGP is providing the United Nations' Information and
>>Communication Technologies Task Force (UN ICT TF) a detailed analysis of
>>global policy regimes. The resulting study will provide a fact-based "map" of
>>existing global rules for the Internet and the institutions that make those
>>rules.
>>
>>IGP's research team includes:
>>- MILTON MUELLER, Professor, Syracuse University School of Information 
>>Studies
>>- JOHN R. MATHIASON, Adjunct Professor, Syracuse University Maxwell School of
>>   Citizenship and Public Affairs
>>- HANS KLEIN, Assoc. Professor, Georgia Institute of Technology, School of
>>   Public Policy
>>- LEE MCKNIGHT, Assoc. Professor, Syracuse University School of Information
>>   Studies
>>- MARC HOLITSCHER, Lecturer, Institut f?r Politikwissenschaft der Universit?t
>>   Z?rich
>>
>>For information on the relevant UN activities:
>>         http://www.itu.int/wsis/
>>For more information on the Internet Governance Project:
>>         www.InternetGovernance.org
>>or send an inquiry to:
>>         info@InternetGovernance.org
>>
>>###
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Plenary mailing list
>>Plenary@wsis-cs.org
>>http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/plenary
>
>_______________________________________________
>Plenary mailing list
>Plenary@wsis-cs.org
>http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/plenary


From mueller at syr.edu  Tue Jul 20 03:30:59 2004
From: mueller at syr.edu (Milton Mueller)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:53 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] LAUNCH of INTERNET GOVERNANCE PROJECT
Message-ID: <s0fc4bbd.039@gwia201.syr.edu>

Hello, Lisa and Mavic:

We have discussed this at length. 
Longer-term we would like to put together
what we call a "global consortium" of university-
based researchers working on IG issues. 
But that will take substantial administrative
and travel support, which we don't have now. 

More broadly, let me warn that it would be easy to add
a bunch of names to a list on a web site and
claim that we are more "representative."
But surely you can see that such purely nominal
"representativeness" would be an empty gesture,
unless the people involved actually work together, 
meet, actively forge compatible and consistent ideas, 
etc. How is that supposed to happen? We lack the 
resources to do any more than we are doing now.
 
But, we are beginning to approach some funding
sources about this. No guarantee of anything, of course.

Let's keep this in perspective. The IGP is a private 
initiative that originally consisted of 3 people on the same
university campus. Later, two others were added who 
the principals have known and worked with for years. IGP 
now is a group that knows how to work together, and we
have collectively already developed several
papers and policy analyses that might be useful
to the WGIG proces. Any expansion will be incremental
and *careful,* focused on quality and consistency as well
as broader perspectives.

Bottom line: If the research we produce is considered by 
others to be unrepresentative of South 
perspectives or other perspectives, then
educate us - criticize it and reject it. Or, better yet, 
form a group that can do it better. IGP enjoys no
special monopoly on the topic and anyone else can set up
something similar. Thus, while longer term we do
intend to expand if possible, I would have to reject
the implication that no university can publish or do
research on Internet governance unless it first
sets up an apparatus of global representation
(the representativeness of which could always be
contested anyway).

--MM

>>> mavic@isiswomen.org 07/18/04 07:53PM >>>

How can women and men from the Global South take part in this research --as 
researchers or part of the research team and not just as respondents or 
subjects?

I visited the www.InternetGovernance.org site to find some information on 
the research design but there was none unfortunately.

If there is an opening for collaboration, I would be pleased to discuss 
this with people from the University of the Philippines and the 
Chulalongkorn University in Thailand.

Mavic Cabrera-Balleza

At 11:29 AM 7/18/04 -0400, you wrote:
>This sounds like a worthwhile project; however, respectfully, I would like 
>to suggest that you consider diversifying your research team. So far as I 
>can judge from the following names, there are no women, no persons of 
>color, and no persons from the Global South who are involved as central 
>figures in your research project.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Lisa McLaughlin
>
>
>>                             * * * Please Forward * * *
>>
>>                         =======================
>>                             Announcing the Launch
>>                                        of the
>>                           Internet Governance Project
>>                           www.InternetGovernance.org 
>>                         =======================
>>
>>
>>We are pleased to announce the launch of the Internet Governance Project
>>(IGP), a multi-university partnership to analyze global Internet policy
>>issues.  IGP's research agenda is closely related to the on-going United
>>Nations' review of Internet Governance.
>>
>>IGP's member institutions include two research centers at Syracuse 
>>University:
>>    - The Convergence Center at the School of Information Studies
>>    - The Moynihan Institute of Global Affairs at the Maxwell School
>>and one research center at the Georgia Institute of Technology:
>>    - The Internet and Public Policy Project (IP3) at the School of Public
>>      Policy
>>
>>As its first project IGP is providing the United Nations' Information and
>>Communication Technologies Task Force (UN ICT TF) a detailed analysis of
>>global policy regimes. The resulting study will provide a fact-based "map" of
>>existing global rules for the Internet and the institutions that make those
>>rules.
>>
>>IGP's research team includes:
>>- MILTON MUELLER, Professor, Syracuse University School of Information 
>>Studies
>>- JOHN R. MATHIASON, Adjunct Professor, Syracuse University Maxwell School of
>>   Citizenship and Public Affairs
>>- HANS KLEIN, Assoc. Professor, Georgia Institute of Technology, School of
>>   Public Policy
>>- LEE MCKNIGHT, Assoc. Professor, Syracuse University School of Information
>>   Studies
>>- MARC HOLITSCHER, Lecturer, Institut f?r Politikwissenschaft der Universit?t
>>   Z?rich
>>
>>For information on the relevant UN activities:
>>         http://www.itu.int/wsis/ 
>>For more information on the Internet Governance Project:
>>         www.InternetGovernance.org 
>>or send an inquiry to:
>>         info@InternetGovernance.org 
>>
>>###
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Plenary mailing list
>>Plenary@wsis-cs.org 
>>http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/plenary 
>
>_______________________________________________
>Plenary mailing list
>Plenary@wsis-cs.org 
>http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/plenary 

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From marzouki at ras.eu.org  Tue Jul 20 10:19:17 2004
From: marzouki at ras.eu.org (Meryem Marzouki)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: On research 'representativeness' Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] LAUNCH of INTERNET GOVERNANCE PROJECT
In-Reply-To: <s0fc4bbd.039@gwia201.syr.edu>
Message-ID: <E00B4685-DA2D-11D8-BB85-0003935A8C90@ras.eu.org>

Hi all,

Le mardi, 20 juil 2004, ? 04:30 Europe/Paris, Milton Mueller a ?crit :

[...]
> Bottom line: If the research we produce is considered by
> others to be unrepresentative of South
> perspectives or other perspectives, then
> educate us - criticize it and reject it. Or, better yet,
> form a group that can do it better. IGP enjoys no
> special monopoly on the topic and anyone else can set up
> something similar. Thus, while longer term we do
> intend to expand if possible, I would have to reject
> the implication that no university can publish or do
> research on Internet governance unless it first
> sets up an apparatus of global representation
> (the representativeness of which could always be
> contested anyway).

Let me add that I've been quite amazed to read the comments after the  
announcement of this IG project: it has clearly been presented as a  
scientific research project, and since when scientific research should  
be considered or assessed against such criteria as 'representativeness'  
? There are many other criteria, scientific and non scientific (though  
still relevant, like who's funding the research, the researchers'  
perpectives, their personal positions, etc.), which do apply for such  
assessment. But I never heard of (and would never accept, as both a  
scientific researcher and an activist) something called 'representative  
research'. This would be nothing but a fake, and a very dangerous one.  
Almost as dangerous as a so-called 'civil society representativeness'  
:-)
Although I have absolutely nothing against wearing both research and  
activism hats - specially since this is also my own case - I feel very  
concerned about what seems to be a totally inappropriate mix ('m?lange  
des genres', in French).

What would be relevant, and very useful, however, is to keep track of  
different research projets on this issue, to exchange information,  
etc., and this list could be one of the means used for that. Although a  
formal collaboration and exchange process would indeed require funding,  
such a loose network and/or database of resources (existing projects,  
people working on IG, papers, reports, study data and results,  
comments, criticisms, etc.) may be started at very marginal costs.  
Moreover, as a researcher working on IG issues in France (with other  
colleagues), I would be pleased to contribute to the definition and set  
up of such a - multilingual - database, and provide tools for an  
ongoing 'electronic colloquium' (starting only from September, I'm  
afraid).

I've been glad to learn that this IG project has been launched by our  
colleagues in the US, and I would also be pleased to learn of any other  
similar project anywhere in the world : the more perspectives we can  
show, the richer the research results would be. We could  use all the  
opportunities to meet, like international conferences, etc., to discuss  
this scientific network setup possibility, if anyone is interested. I  
hope that the session on 'Internet Political Governance and Technical  
Government' I'm co-organizing during the next 4S/EASST Conference in  
Paris (August 25-28, 2004) will provide such an opportunity (see  
Session S7 at:  
http://www.csi.ensmp.fr/csi/programme_4S/jour/ 
programme_jour.php?jour=FRI).

Best regards,
Meryem

From adavidziuk at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 20 15:22:48 2004
From: adavidziuk at yahoo.com (alejandra davidziuk)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] CRIS Campaign - Digest
Message-ID: <20040720142248.62990.qmail@web12006.mail.yahoo.com>

DIGEST – CRIS CAMPAIGN

OURMEDIA 2004: CONSTRUYENDO SOCIEDADES DE COMUNICACION
La Conferencia de NUESTROSMedios / OURMedia 2004 (OM
IV) tendrá lugar en Porto Alegre, Brasil, como una
pre-conferencia de la reunión anual de la Asociación
Internacional de Investigación en Comunicación de
Masas (IAMCR), / Association Internationale des Etudes
et Recherches sur L'Informationet et la Communication
(AIERI) / Ascociación Internacional de Estudios de
Comunicación Social (AIICS) - la más grande
organización profesional internacional en el campo de
la investigación en comunicación de masas. 
http://www.crisinfo.org/content/view/full/345/ 

OURMEDIA 2004: BUILDING COMMUNICATION SOCIETIES 
The 2004 OURMedia conference (OM IV) will take place
July 22-25 in Porto Alegre, Brazil as a pre-conference
to the annual meeting of the the International
Association of Mass Communications Research (IAMCR) /
Association Internationale des Etudes et Recherches
sur L'Informationet et la Communication (AIERI) /
Ascociación Internacional de Estudios de Comunicación
Social (AIICS) - the largest international
professional organization in the field of mass
communication research. 
http://www.crisinfo.org/content/view/full/346/ 

ENCUENTRO POR LOS DERECHOS DE LA COMUNICACION EN LAS
AMERICAS 
En el marco del I Foro Social de las Américas (FSA),
que tendrá lugar en Quito, Ecuador, entre el 25 y el
30 de Julio del 2004, un grupo de redes de
comunicación que apoyan a la Campaña por los Derechos
de la Comunicación en la Sociedad de la Información
-CRIS- invita a participar al Encuentro por los
Derechos de la Comunicación en las Américas. 
http://www.crisinfo.org/content/view/full/342 

COMMUNICATION RIGHTS MEETING FOR THE AMERICAS 
The Americas Social Forum 2004 will be held in Quito,
Ecuador on July 25-30, 2004. A group of Community
Networks that supports the CRIS Campaign invites you
to the Americas Communication Rights Meeting, one of
the Forum main activities. The Americas Social Forum
(ASF) is part of the World Social Forum (WSF) process
initiated in 2001.
http://www.crisinfo.org/content/view/full/343

LA COMUNICACION EN EL FORO SOCIAL DE LAS AMERICAS
Eduardo Tamayo G. analiza los "derechos a la
comunicación en las Américas", uno de los temas que se
debatirá en el Foro Social de las Américas (FSA), que
se llevará a cabo en Quito del 25 al 30 de julio. 
http://www.crisinfo.org/content/view/full/344/ 

EL DERECHO A LA COMUNICACION. MEDIOS Y DEMANDAS
CIUDADANAS
Del 1° al 3 de septiembre de 2004, se realizará el
“Seminario Nacional Felafacs / Asepecs: El Derecho a
la Comunicación en Chile. Medios y Demandas
Ciudadanas” en la sede de la Universidad Mayor-Temuco
de Chile. Su objetivo principal será abrir un espacio
de reflexión entre la comunidad académica, medios de
comunicación y la sociedad civil, en torno a los
derechos, demandas e instancias de participación
ciudadana en la comunicación pública de Chile. 
http://www.crisinfo.org/content/view/full/325/

COMMUNICATION RIGHTS. MEDIA AND CITIZEN DEMANDS
A national seminar on communication rights will be
held from September 1-3 at the Mayor-Temuco University
of Chile. The primary goal of the seminar is to open a
space of reflection between the academic community,
mass media and civil society, around the rights,
demands and instances of citizen participation in
Chilean public communication. 
http://www.crisinfo.org/content/view/full/324/

¿QUIERE PARTICIPAR? FIRME LA CARTA DE CRIS
Nuestra visión de la Sociedad de la Información se
fundamenta en el Derecho a Comunicar como un medio de
acrecentar los derechos humanos y fortalecer la vida
social, económica y cultural de las personas y las
comunidades. Para lograrlo, resulta fundamental que
las organizaciones de la sociedad civil se unan para
cooperar en la construcción de una sociedad de la
información basada en principios de transparencia,
diversidad, participación, justicia social y
económica, e inspiradas por la equidad de género y las
perspectivas culturales y regionales. Lo invitamos a
conocer más sobre la Campaña de CRIS y a participar
firmando la Carta de CRIS: 
http://scripts.planetgrey.org/cris/sign_charter_form.html
http://www.crisinfo.org/content/view/full/97/ 

WOULD YOU LIKE TO GET INVOLVED? ENDORSE THE CRIS
CHARTER
Our vision of the 'Information Society' is grounded in
the Right to Communicate, as a means to enhance human
rights and to strengthen the social, economic and
cultural lives of people and communities. Crucial to
this is that civil society organisations come together
to help build an information society based on
principles of transparency, diversity, participation
and social and economic justice, and inspired by
equitable gender, cultural and regional perspectives.
We invite you to read more about CRIS Campaign and get
involved endorsing the CRIS Chapter:
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From faia at amauta.rcp.net.pe  Tue Jul 20 11:39:30 2004
From: faia at amauta.rcp.net.pe (Erick Iriarte Ahon)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Seguimiento_reuni=F3n_icann_en_kuala_lumpur_(?= en
 =?iso-8859-1?Q?espa=F1ol?= )
Message-ID: <6.0.2.0.0.20040720053908.022d6d48@amauta.rcp.net.pe>

Internet Governance a la Malaya!
Markus Kummer, en su primera reuni?n dentro de la reuni?n del ICANN en 
Kuala Lumpur (y dicen que tambien su primera reuni?n ICANN) esta realizando 
una presentaci?n sobre su labor dirigiendo el grupo de "Internet Governance"
Nota: 19 de Julio
ALAC Meeting
Kuala Lumpur
Publicado 19 Jul 2004 - 04:55 AM
http://www.latinoamericann.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=668&mode=thread&order=1&thold=0

Nuevos nombres de dominio... de que viene?
Segun lo escuchado en los pasillos de las reuniones.. al parecer el ICANN 
no ha dicho cuando estar? el tema de los nuevos gtld's. Se dieron 
respuestas por parte de los postulantes que no se saben si llegaron. El 
ICANN no sabe cuando dara resultados, nadie quiere hablar.
Publicado 19 Jul 2004 - 11:13 AM
http://www.latinoamericann.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=669&mode=thread&order=1&thold=0

Reuni?n ICANN en Kuala Lumur: Taller sobre la WSIS
En instantes empezar? el Taller sobre la WSIS en Kuala Lumpur. Los dos 
expositores principales son Paul Twomey (ICANN Ceo) y Markus Kummer (del WGIG)
Publicado 19 Jul 2004 - 07:26 PM
http://www.latinoamericann.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=670&mode=thread&order=1&thold=0

Reuni?n ICANN en Kuala Lumpur: Notas del Taller sobre WSIS
Notas desde el Taller sobre WSIS.
Publicado 19 Jul 2004 - 08:22 PM
http://www.latinoamericann.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=672&mode=thread&order=1&thold=0

Erick Iriarte Ahon
LatinoamerICANN Project
http://latinoamericann.org


From accuosto at chasque.net  Tue Jul 20 18:17:01 2004
From: accuosto at chasque.net (Pablo Accuosto)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] WSIS II: Research project / Projet d'investigation / Proyecto de investigacion
Message-ID: <009901c46e7d$5ff86c20$4704a8c0@paullier.net>

Announcement - Research project - Papers towards WSIS II
Annonce - Projet d'investigation - Articles pour la seconde ?tape du SMSI

Anuncio - Proyecto de investigaci?n - Art?culos para la segunda etapa de la CMSI

 

* Please distribute* 

 

The Third World Institute (Instituto del Tercer Mundo, ITeM) is seeking scholars and activists to participate in a research project intended to contribute to the second phase of the World Summit on the Information (WSIS) decision-making process.

 

Research will be focused on key issues of interest to developing countries and, based on it, position and briefing papers will be produced to advise Southern negotiators and working groups on the policy implications of the different proposals they will be considering during the Summit process.

 

During the preparatory process for the Tunis WSIS phase events (workshops and/or roundtables) will be organized with the aim of publicizing the research concluded or in progress and involving the different stakeholders in discussions on the issues under study. Some of the document authors may be invited to present their contributions at these events.

 

The project is open to receive research proposals focused on at least one of the following topics:

 

I. Funding mechanisms for the development of communications in the South

 

Examples of research issues that could be addressed under this topic include (but are not limited to): Institutional arrangments for ICTs provision in the South; Taxing ICTs as an equitable source of revenues; Sustaining social and technical networks after initial funding; ICT financing in the framework of a global partnership for development, Financing infrastructure development in places that lack basic telecommunications services.

 

II. Internet governance and global ICTs policies

 

Examples of research issues that could be addressed under this topic include (but are not limited to): Institutional arrangements for the democratization of the Internet; Southern civil society involvement in ICT policy definition; Social impacts and the definition of technological standards; Human rights protection and new ICTs.

 

III. Issues left out of the WSIS agenda

 

Examples of research issues that could be addressed under this topic include (but are not limited to): Linking WSIS Agenda to other multilateral processes; The impact of intellectual property rights (IPRs) in the development of global communications; A Southern civil society perspective of ICTs for Human Development; Effective mechanisms to bring down non-physical barriers to access (pricing, trade, patents and censorship policies); ICTs policies for poverty reduction, health promotion and environmental sustainability; ICTs policies for traditional knowledge protection; Education paradigms in ICTs from a multicultural perspective; etc.


Scholars and activists with expertise on these topics should submit a CV, a relevant writing sample and a one-paragraph description of research interests via e-mail by July 30, 2004 to Pablo Accuosto at wsis2@item.org.uy.  

 

Participants will receive an honorarium for their involvement.


The project is particularly interested in participants from the developing world.


For more information about the project, please visit http://wsispapers.choike.org/
For more information about ITeM, please visit http://www.item.org.uy/ 



This project is possible thanks to the International Development Research Centre (IDRC) / PAN Americas support



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Annonce - Projet d'investigation - Articles pour la seconde ?tape du SMSI

 

* Distribuez svp *

 

L'Institut du Tiers-Monde (Instituto del Tercer Mudno, ITeM) recherche des sp?cialistes et des activistes pour participer ? un projet d'investigation avec l'objectif de contribuer ? la seconde ?tape du Sommet Mondial sur la Soci?t? d'Information (SMSI).

 

La recherche sera centr?e sur des probl?mes cruciaux pour les pays en voie de d?veloppement et, ? partir de l?, on produira des briefings et position papers, qui seront distribu?s parmi les d?l?gu?s gouvernementaux des pays du Sud, ainsi que parmi les participants des groupes de travail qui participeront aux d?finitions de politiques pour cette ?tape du Sommet. Ces documents informeront les personnes en position de promouvoir ces politiques avec leurs cons?quences et impacts possibles sur les pays du Sud.

 

Durant le processus pr?paratoire de la phase de Tunis du SMSI, il y aura des activit?s (ateliers et/ou tables rondes), avec l'objectif de faire conna?tre les r?sultats des investigations (termin?es ou en cours) entre les diff?rents acteurs concern?s par les discussions qui auront lieu pendant cette phase du SMSI. Quelques auteurs des investigations pourront ?tre invit?s ? pr?senter leurs contributions durant ces ?v?nements.

 

Le projet est ouvert ? toute proposition d'investigation comprise pour le moins dans un des th?mes suivants :

 

I. M?canismes de financement pour le d?veloppement des communications dans le Sud

 

Des exemples de propositions d'investigation sous ce th?me pourront inclure (mais ne sont pas limit?s ?) : Formes d'organisation pour la mise ? disposition de TICs dans le Sud ; Imp?ts sur les TICs en tant que source ?galitaire de revenus ; Soutien des r?seaux sociaux et techniques, en plus du financement initial ; Financement des TICs dans le cadre d'un partenariat global pour le d?veloppement.

 

II. Gouvernement d'Internet et politiques globales des TICs

 

Des exemples de propositions d'investigations sous ce th?me pourraient inclure (mais ne sont pas limit?s ?) : Formes institutionnelles pour la d?mocratisation d'Internet ; Participation de la soci?t? civile du Sud dans la d?finition des politiques de TICs ; Impacts sociaux et d?finition de standards technologiques ; Protection des droits de l'homme et nouveaux TICs.

 

III. Sujets laiss?s de c?t? dans l'agenda du SMSI

 

Des exemples de propositions d'investigations sous ce th?me pourraient inclure (mais ne sont pas limit?s ?) : Liaison de l'agenda du WSIS avec d' autres processus multilat?raux ; L'impact des droits de propri?t? intellectuelle dans le d?veloppement des communications internationales; Une perspective de la soci?t? civile du Sud sur le concept de TICs pour le D?veloppement Humain ; M?canismes efficaces pour surmonter les barri?res non physiques ? l'acc?s (censure, politiques commerciales, patentes et prix); Politiques de TICs pour la r?duction de la pauvret?, la promotion de la sant? et l'aide ? l'environnement; Politiques de TICs pour la protection des connaissances traditionnelles ; Paradigmes d'?ducation en TICs depuis une perspective multiculturelle.

 

Les chercheurs ayant de l'exp?rience dans ces sujets doivent envoyer leur CV, un texte d'exemple et un paragraphe descriptif sur leur proposition de recherche, par courrier ?lectronique, avant le 30 juillet 2004 ? : Pablo Accuosto - wsis2@item.org.uy

 

Les participants recevront des honoraires pour leur participation dans le projet.

 Le projet est particuli?rement int?ress? par la participation de chercheurs du Sud.

 

Pour plus d'information sur le projet, veuillez visiter la page http://wsispapers.choike.org/

Pour plus d'information sur l'Institut du Tiers-Monde (ITeM), veuillez visiter http://item.org.uy/ 



Ce projet est possible gr?ce ? le soutien du Centre de Recherches pour le D?veloppement International (CRDI) / PAN Americas



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Anuncio - Proyecto de investigaci?n - Art?culos para la segunda etapa de la CMSI

 

* Distribuir, por favor *

 

El Instituto del Tercer Mundo (ITeM) busca acad?micos y activistas para participar en un proyecto de investigaci?n con el objetivo de contribuir con insumos a la segunda fase de la Cumbre Mundial sobre la Sociedad de la Informaci?n (CMSI).

 

Se encargar? una serie de investigaciones y a partir de los resultados de ?stas se producir?n documentos (briefing y position papers) que se distribuir?n entre los delegados gubernamentales de pa?ses del Sur, as? como entre los integrantes de los grupos de trabajo que participen en las definiciones de pol?ticas en esta etapa de la Cumbre. Estos documentos aportar?n informaci?n a quienes est?n en posici?n de impulsar estas pol?ticas sobre sus consecuencias y posibles impactos en los pa?ses del Sur. 

 

Durante el proceso preparatorio de la fase de T?nez de la CMSI se desarrollar?n eventos (talleres y/o mesas redondas), con el objetivo de difundir los resultados de las investigaciones (finalizadas o en curso) entre los distintos actores involucrados en las discusiones que se procesen en esta fase de la CMSI. Algunos autores de las investigaciones pueden ser invitados a presentar sus contribuciones en dichos eventos.

 

El proyecto est? abierto a recibir propuestas de investigaci?n enfocadas en el menos uno de los siguientes temas:

 

I. Mecanismos de financiamiento para el desarrollo de las comunicaciones en el Sur

 

Ejemplos de propuestas de investigaci?n bajo este tema podr?an incluir (aunque no est?n limitadas a): Formas organizativas para la provisi?n de TICs en el Sur; Impuestos a las TICs como una fuente igualitaria de recursos; Sostenibilidad de las redes sociales y t?cnicas, m?s all? del financiamiento inicial; Financiamiento de las TICs en el marco de un pacto global para el desarrollo. Financiamiento para el desarrollo de infraestructuras de TICs en lugares sin servicios b?sicos de telecomunicaciones.

 

II. Gobernanza de Internet y pol?ticas globales de TICs

 

Ejemplos de propuestas de investigaci?n bajo este tema podr?an incluir (aunque no est?n limitadas a): Formas organizativas para la democratizaci?n de Internet; Involucramiento de la sociedad civil del Sur en la definici?n de pol?ticas de TICs; Impactos sociales y la definici?n de est?ndares tecnol?gicos; Protecci?n de los derechos humanos y las nuevas TICs.

 

III. Temas pendientes en la agenda de la CMSI

 

Ejemplos de propuestas de investigaci?n bajo este tema podr?an incluir (aunque no est?n limitadas a): Vincular la agenda de la CMSI a otros procesos multilaterales; El impacto de los derechos de propiedad intelectual en el desarrollo de las comunicaciones globales; Una perspectiva desde la sociedad civil del Sur del concepto de Desarrollo Humano; Mecanismos efectivos para superar las barreras no f?sicas al acceso (censura, pol?ticas comerciales, patentes y precios); Pol?ticas de TICs para la reducci?n de la pobreza, la promoci?n de la salud y la sostenibilidad ambiental; Pol?ticas de TICs para la protecci?n de los conocimientos tradicionales; Paradigmas de educaci?n en TICs desde una perspectiva multicultural.

 

Los investigadores con experiencia en estos temas deben enviar su CV, un texto de ejemplo y un p?rrafo descriptivo sobre su propuesta de investigaci?n, a trav?s de correo electr?nico, antes del 30 de julio de 2004 a: Pablo Accuosto - wsis2@item.org.uy

 

Los participantes recibir?n un honorario por su participaci?n en el proyecto. 

El proyecto est? particularmente interesado en la participaci?n de investigadores del Sur.

  

Por m?s informaci?n sobre el proyecto, por favor dirigirse a http://wsispapers.choike.org/

Por m?s informaci?n sobre el Instituto del Tercer Mundo (ITeM), por favor dirigirse a http://www.item.org.uy/ 
 

Este proyecto es posible gracias al apoyo del Centro Internacional de Investigaciones para el desarrollo (IDRC-CRDI) / PAN Americas
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From mgurst at vcn.bc.ca  Thu Jul 22 01:51:12 2004
From: mgurst at vcn.bc.ca (Michael Gurstein)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: On research 'representativeness' Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] LAUNCH of INTERNET GOVERNANCE PROJECT
In-Reply-To: <E00B4685-DA2D-11D8-BB85-0003935A8C90@ras.eu.org>
Message-ID: <004201c46f86$23287010$ababfea9@michael78xnoln>

Without getting into the ins and outs of this particular research
project it certainly goes in opposition to most of the recent
discussion/analysis in the philosophy/sociology of science to ignore the
broader (social, political, cultural) context of "research" and of the
"researchers" and including their nationality, gender, intellectual
history (what 'school' they belong to for example) and the
representativeness of the perspectives that are "suggested" by these
circumstances.  

It should be surprising to no one that the more political/policy
sensitive the subject matter the more these contextual circumstances are
broadly (and politically) seen as being of relevance with respect to the
research, its conduct, its outcome and its likely significance.

So let's not be too outraged at having folks somewhat less than
uniformly sympathetic (ie. somewhat suspicious) of a research project
which appears to the outsider to be uniformly northern, Eurocentric, and
male.

MG

-----Original Message-----
From: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org [mailto:plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org] On
Behalf Of Meryem Marzouki
Sent: July 20, 2004 2:19 AM
To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
Subject: On research 'representativeness' Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] LAUNCH
of INTERNET GOVERNANCE PROJECT


Hi all,

Le mardi, 20 juil 2004, ? 04:30 Europe/Paris, Milton Mueller a ?crit :

[...]
> Bottom line: If the research we produce is considered by others to be 
> unrepresentative of South perspectives or other perspectives, then
> educate us - criticize it and reject it. Or, better yet,
> form a group that can do it better. IGP enjoys no
> special monopoly on the topic and anyone else can set up
> something similar. Thus, while longer term we do
> intend to expand if possible, I would have to reject
> the implication that no university can publish or do
> research on Internet governance unless it first
> sets up an apparatus of global representation
> (the representativeness of which could always be
> contested anyway).

Let me add that I've been quite amazed to read the comments after the  
announcement of this IG project: it has clearly been presented as a  
scientific research project, and since when scientific research should  
be considered or assessed against such criteria as 'representativeness'

? There are many other criteria, scientific and non scientific (though  
still relevant, like who's funding the research, the researchers'  
perpectives, their personal positions, etc.), which do apply for such  
assessment. But I never heard of (and would never accept, as both a  
scientific researcher and an activist) something called 'representative

research'. This would be nothing but a fake, and a very dangerous one.  
Almost as dangerous as a so-called 'civil society representativeness'  
:-)
Although I have absolutely nothing against wearing both research and  
activism hats - specially since this is also my own case - I feel very  
concerned about what seems to be a totally inappropriate mix ('m?lange  
des genres', in French).

What would be relevant, and very useful, however, is to keep track of  
different research projets on this issue, to exchange information,  
etc., and this list could be one of the means used for that. Although a

formal collaboration and exchange process would indeed require funding,

such a loose network and/or database of resources (existing projects,  
people working on IG, papers, reports, study data and results,  
comments, criticisms, etc.) may be started at very marginal costs.  
Moreover, as a researcher working on IG issues in France (with other  
colleagues), I would be pleased to contribute to the definition and set

up of such a - multilingual - database, and provide tools for an  
ongoing 'electronic colloquium' (starting only from September, I'm  
afraid).

I've been glad to learn that this IG project has been launched by our  
colleagues in the US, and I would also be pleased to learn of any other

similar project anywhere in the world : the more perspectives we can  
show, the richer the research results would be. We could  use all the  
opportunities to meet, like international conferences, etc., to discuss

this scientific network setup possibility, if anyone is interested. I  
hope that the session on 'Internet Political Governance and Technical  
Government' I'm co-organizing during the next 4S/EASST Conference in  
Paris (August 25-28, 2004) will provide such an opportunity (see  
Session S7 at:  
http://www.csi.ensmp.fr/csi/programme_4S/jour/ 
programme_jour.php?jour=FRI).

Best regards,
Meryem
_______________________________________________
Plenary mailing list
Plenary@wsis-cs.org
http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/plenary


From mclauglm at po.muohio.edu  Wed Jul 21 15:18:26 2004
From: mclauglm at po.muohio.edu (mclauglm@po.muohio.edu)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: On research 'representativeness' Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] LAUNCH
 of INTERNET GOVERNANCE PROJECT
In-Reply-To: <004201c46f86$23287010$ababfea9@michael78xnoln>
References: <004201c46f86$23287010$ababfea9@michael78xnoln>
Message-ID: <p06010200bd2423fc6602@[192.168.1.100]>

Thank you, Michael, for stating the issue so 
well. And may I add that the notion of 
"representativeness" should always be 
interrogated, certainly in our own research, 
whether or not this work is labeled "scientific 
research," and even if such queries appear to 
have the effect of raining on someone else's 
parade. I'm interested in--but, as a feminist 
scholar and activist, not amazed at--the notion 
that scientific research should be exempt from 
being questioned as to its representativeness. 
Meryem, what seems dangerous to me is the idea 
that attempts to achieve representativeness in 
research will result in nothing productive, just 
"fake research." Of course it will always fall 
short--all of us will always fall short in this 
respect--but at least one can make every effort 
to be as inclusive as possible (which doesn't 
entirely rest on the question of whether funding 
exists for the project).

My best wishes for the possibility that many 
internet governance projects will spring up all 
over the world, that all are as inclusive and 
transnational as possible, that all secure 
adequate funding, and that there is productive 
dialogue among them despite differences.

Best,

Lisa


>Without getting into the ins and outs of this particular research
>project it certainly goes in opposition to most of the recent
>discussion/analysis in the philosophy/sociology of science to ignore the
>broader (social, political, cultural) context of "research" and of the
>"researchers" and including their nationality, gender, intellectual
>history (what 'school' they belong to for example) and the
>representativeness of the perspectives that are "suggested" by these
>circumstances. 
>
>It should be surprising to no one that the more political/policy
>sensitive the subject matter the more these contextual circumstances are
>broadly (and politically) seen as being of relevance with respect to the
>research, its conduct, its outcome and its likely significance.
>
>So let's not be too outraged at having folks somewhat less than
>uniformly sympathetic (ie. somewhat suspicious) of a research project
>which appears to the outsider to be uniformly northern, Eurocentric, and
>male.
>
>MG
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org [mailto:plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org] On
>Behalf Of Meryem Marzouki
>Sent: July 20, 2004 2:19 AM
>To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
>Subject: On research 'representativeness' Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] LAUNCH
>of INTERNET GOVERNANCE PROJECT
>
>
>Hi all,
>
>Le mardi, 20 juil 2004, ? 04:30 Europe/Paris, Milton Mueller a ?crit :
>
>[...]
>>  Bottom line: If the research we produce is considered by others to be
>>  unrepresentative of South perspectives or other perspectives, then
>>  educate us - criticize it and reject it. Or, better yet,
>>  form a group that can do it better. IGP enjoys no
>>  special monopoly on the topic and anyone else can set up
>>  something similar. Thus, while longer term we do
>>  intend to expand if possible, I would have to reject
>>  the implication that no university can publish or do
>>  research on Internet governance unless it first
>>  sets up an apparatus of global representation
>>  (the representativeness of which could always be
>>  contested anyway).
>
>Let me add that I've been quite amazed to read the comments after the 
>announcement of this IG project: it has clearly been presented as a 
>scientific research project, and since when scientific research should 
>be considered or assessed against such criteria as 'representativeness'
>
>? There are many other criteria, scientific and non scientific (though 
>still relevant, like who's funding the research, the researchers' 
>perpectives, their personal positions, etc.), which do apply for such 
>assessment. But I never heard of (and would never accept, as both a 
>scientific researcher and an activist) something called 'representative
>
>research'. This would be nothing but a fake, and a very dangerous one. 
>Almost as dangerous as a so-called 'civil society representativeness' 
>:-)
>Although I have absolutely nothing against wearing both research and 
>activism hats - specially since this is also my own case - I feel very 
>concerned about what seems to be a totally inappropriate mix ('m?lange 
>des genres', in French).
>
>What would be relevant, and very useful, however, is to keep track of 
>different research projets on this issue, to exchange information, 
>etc., and this list could be one of the means used for that. Although a
>
>formal collaboration and exchange process would indeed require funding,
>
>such a loose network and/or database of resources (existing projects, 
>people working on IG, papers, reports, study data and results, 
>comments, criticisms, etc.) may be started at very marginal costs. 
>Moreover, as a researcher working on IG issues in France (with other 
>colleagues), I would be pleased to contribute to the definition and set
>
>up of such a - multilingual - database, and provide tools for an 
>ongoing 'electronic colloquium' (starting only from September, I'm 
>afraid).
>
>I've been glad to learn that this IG project has been launched by our 
>colleagues in the US, and I would also be pleased to learn of any other
>
>similar project anywhere in the world : the more perspectives we can 
>show, the richer the research results would be. We could  use all the 
>opportunities to meet, like international conferences, etc., to discuss
>
>this scientific network setup possibility, if anyone is interested. I 
>hope that the session on 'Internet Political Governance and Technical 
>Government' I'm co-organizing during the next 4S/EASST Conference in 
>Paris (August 25-28, 2004) will provide such an opportunity (see 
>Session S7 at: 
>http://www.csi.ensmp.fr/csi/programme_4S/jour/
>programme_jour.php?jour=FRI).
>
>Best regards,
>Meryem
>_______________________________________________
>Plenary mailing list
>Plenary@wsis-cs.org
>http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/plenary
>
>_______________________________________________
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>Plenary@wsis-cs.org
>http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/plenary


From mueller at syr.edu  Thu Jul 22 09:58:24 2004
From: mueller at syr.edu (Milton Mueller)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] RE: On research 'representativeness' Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary]
 LAUNCH of INTERNET GOVERNANCE PROJECT
Message-ID: <s0ff4979.005@gwia201.syr.edu>

Hmmm, at first your argument seemed reasonable but 
then I realized that it was advanced by a white male from
the North - and only one of them, to boot. (Much less
representative than us - at least we have different age
groups and European ethnicities!) Clearly, your contribution
to this discussion ignores the broader social political and 
cultural context of research and researchers, so I must 
reject it....

I would suggest that if you wish to evaluate research,
you really had better get into the "ins and outs of the
particular research" and not reduce people or their
writing to preconceived categories. This kind of posturing
is useless.

--MM

>>> mgurst@vcn.bc.ca 07/21/04 08:51PM >>>
Without getting into the ins and outs of this particular research
project it certainly goes in opposition to most of the recent
discussion/analysis in the philosophy/sociology of science to ignore the
broader (social, political, cultural) context of "research" and of the
"researchers" and including their nationality, gender, intellectual
history (what 'school' they belong to for example) and the
representativeness of the perspectives that are "suggested" by these
circumstances.  

It should be surprising to no one that the more political/policy
sensitive the subject matter the more these contextual circumstances are
broadly (and politically) seen as being of relevance with respect to the
research, its conduct, its outcome and its likely significance.

So let's not be too outraged at having folks somewhat less than
uniformly sympathetic (ie. somewhat suspicious) of a research project
which appears to the outsider to be uniformly northern, Eurocentric, and
male.

MG




From marzouki at ras.eu.org  Thu Jul 22 12:29:31 2004
From: marzouki at ras.eu.org (Meryem Marzouki)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: On research 'representativeness' Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] LAUNCH of INTERNET GOVERNANCE PROJECT
In-Reply-To: <p06010200bd2423fc6602@[192.168.1.100]>
Message-ID: <66ACEE3F-DBD2-11D8-9C1D-0003935A8C90@ras.eu.org>

Hi Lisa and all,

I thought it was obvious to everyone that the broader context of a 
research work should by no mean be ignored, and I've myself provided 
some of these broader criteria, including who is funding the given 
research project, thus setting the agenda in some way or another.
Putting it simply and roughly, there is no such thing as 'neutrality' 
or 'objectivity' of a research project.

But all these criteria apply for assessing the research results, not as 
criteria to discredit or delegitimize any research project or research 
team.

And -- most importantly --, putting together a so-called representative 
group of researchers should never be used as an argument to a contrario 
legitimize a research project. First, the group will always miss 
someone to reach true 'representativeness'. Second, as Milton already 
said, it could be "an empty gesture" if these people don't actually 
work together. Third, even if the people actually work together, this 
may mean that they are more or less like-minded people with respect to 
many criteria : although this may indeed provide different perspectives 
in some cases, why on earth gender, ethnicity, country of origin, etc. 
would guarantee this diversity of perspectives ? How could it be 
quantified ? Doesn't this mean, on the contrary, that these people, 
having chosen each other to form a group, will show less diversity than 
expected? Fourth, and this is essential to me, what would be the claim 
of such a group regarding its research results ? "Look how wonderfully 
representative our group is: we've got women and men (and tried to take 
into account their sexual orientations, too), we've got fine quotas of 
ethnicity, we've got 2/3 of people from the South and 1/3 from the 
North (no parity, in order to counter-balance the inequal exchange), 
and, last but not least, we've ensured perfect multistakeholderism. 
Moreover, the research results of this group shows the perfect 
consensus. And then... how could you dare discussing these research 
results ? We are legitimate and credible, and so are our research 
results".
More seriously, good research is diverse research, so that different 
results can be confronted. I'm not saying that we should exclude anyone 
from a given group, or only set-up non 'mixed' groups, just explaining 
why I consider this kind of criteria ('research representativeness') a 
fake, and why I consider it dangerous.

Showing "representativeness" may be good to obtain funding for 
consulting work and more generally speaking when politically 
correctness must be shown, not for achieving scientific research.

Meryem

Le mercredi, 21 juil 2004, ? 16:18 Europe/Paris, mclauglm@po.muohio.edu 
a ?crit :

> Thank you, Michael, for stating the issue so well. And may I add that 
> the notion of "representativeness" should always be interrogated, 
> certainly in our own research, whether or not this work is labeled 
> "scientific research," and even if such queries appear to have the 
> effect of raining on someone else's parade. I'm interested in--but, as 
> a feminist scholar and activist, not amazed at--the notion that 
> scientific research should be exempt from being questioned as to its 
> representativeness. Meryem, what seems dangerous to me is the idea 
> that attempts to achieve representativeness in research will result in 
> nothing productive, just "fake research." Of course it will always 
> fall short--all of us will always fall short in this respect--but at 
> least one can make every effort to be as inclusive as possible (which 
> doesn't entirely rest on the question of whether funding exists for 
> the project).
>
> My best wishes for the possibility that many internet governance 
> projects will spring up all over the world, that all are as inclusive 
> and transnational as possible, that all secure adequate funding, and 
> that there is productive dialogue among them despite differences.
>
> Best,
>
> Lisa
>
>
>> Without getting into the ins and outs of this particular research
>> project it certainly goes in opposition to most of the recent
>> discussion/analysis in the philosophy/sociology of science to ignore 
>> the
>> broader (social, political, cultural) context of "research" and of the
>> "researchers" and including their nationality, gender, intellectual
>> history (what 'school' they belong to for example) and the
>> representativeness of the perspectives that are "suggested" by these
>> circumstances.
>> It should be surprising to no one that the more political/policy
>> sensitive the subject matter the more these contextual circumstances 
>> are
>> broadly (and politically) seen as being of relevance with respect to 
>> the
>> research, its conduct, its outcome and its likely significance.
>>
>> So let's not be too outraged at having folks somewhat less than
>> uniformly sympathetic (ie. somewhat suspicious) of a research project
>> which appears to the outsider to be uniformly northern, Eurocentric, 
>> and
>> male.
>>
>> MG
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org [mailto:plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org] On
>> Behalf Of Meryem Marzouki
>> Sent: July 20, 2004 2:19 AM
>> To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
>> Subject: On research 'representativeness' Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] LAUNCH
>> of INTERNET GOVERNANCE PROJECT
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Le mardi, 20 juil 2004, ? 04:30 Europe/Paris, Milton Mueller a ?crit :
>>
>> [...]
>>>  Bottom line: If the research we produce is considered by others to 
>>> be
>>>  unrepresentative of South perspectives or other perspectives, then
>>>  educate us - criticize it and reject it. Or, better yet,
>>>  form a group that can do it better. IGP enjoys no
>>>  special monopoly on the topic and anyone else can set up
>>>  something similar. Thus, while longer term we do
>>>  intend to expand if possible, I would have to reject
>>>  the implication that no university can publish or do
>>>  research on Internet governance unless it first
>>>  sets up an apparatus of global representation
>>>  (the representativeness of which could always be
>>>  contested anyway).
>>
>> Let me add that I've been quite amazed to read the comments after the 
>> announcement of this IG project: it has clearly been presented as a 
>> scientific research project, and since when scientific research 
>> should be considered or assessed against such criteria as 
>> 'representativeness'
>>
>> ? There are many other criteria, scientific and non scientific 
>> (though still relevant, like who's funding the research, the 
>> researchers' perpectives, their personal positions, etc.), which do 
>> apply for such assessment. But I never heard of (and would never 
>> accept, as both a scientific researcher and an activist) something 
>> called 'representative
>>
>> research'. This would be nothing but a fake, and a very dangerous 
>> one. Almost as dangerous as a so-called 'civil society 
>> representativeness' :-)
>> Although I have absolutely nothing against wearing both research and 
>> activism hats - specially since this is also my own case - I feel 
>> very concerned about what seems to be a totally inappropriate mix 
>> ('m?lange des genres', in French).
>>
>> What would be relevant, and very useful, however, is to keep track of 
>> different research projets on this issue, to exchange information, 
>> etc., and this list could be one of the means used for that. Although 
>> a
>>
>> formal collaboration and exchange process would indeed require 
>> funding,
>>
>> such a loose network and/or database of resources (existing projects, 
>> people working on IG, papers, reports, study data and results, 
>> comments, criticisms, etc.) may be started at very marginal costs. 
>> Moreover, as a researcher working on IG issues in France (with other 
>> colleagues), I would be pleased to contribute to the definition and 
>> set
>>
>> up of such a - multilingual - database, and provide tools for an 
>> ongoing 'electronic colloquium' (starting only from September, I'm 
>> afraid).
>>
>> I've been glad to learn that this IG project has been launched by our 
>> colleagues in the US, and I would also be pleased to learn of any 
>> other
>>
>> similar project anywhere in the world : the more perspectives we can 
>> show, the richer the research results would be. We could  use all the 
>> opportunities to meet, like international conferences, etc., to 
>> discuss
>>
>> this scientific network setup possibility, if anyone is interested. I 
>> hope that the session on 'Internet Political Governance and Technical 
>> Government' I'm co-organizing during the next 4S/EASST Conference in 
>> Paris (August 25-28, 2004) will provide such an opportunity (see 
>> Session S7 at: http://www.csi.ensmp.fr/csi/programme_4S/jour/
>> programme_jour.php?jour=FRI).
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Meryem
>> _______________________________________________
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From mgurst at vcn.bc.ca  Thu Jul 22 13:22:55 2004
From: mgurst at vcn.bc.ca (Michael Gurstein)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] RE: On research 'representativeness' Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] LAUNCH of INTERNET GOVERNANCE PROJECT
In-Reply-To: <s0ff4979.005@gwia201.syr.edu>
Message-ID: <006401c46fe6$9f3c0ad0$ababfea9@michael78xnoln>

Milton,

Far be it from me to "evaluate" research especially research that hasn't
yet been done!  

My point was simply to suggest that "research" like all "knowledge" and
knowledge oriented activity derives much of its meaning and significance
from its context and the more politically charged the subject matter
("global Internet policy/governance" for example), the more significant
this relationship to the context becomes...

Best,

MG 

-----Original Message-----
From: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org [mailto:plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org] On
Behalf Of Milton Mueller
Sent: July 22, 2004 1:58 AM
To: mgurst@vcn.bc.ca; plenary@wsis-cs.org
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] RE: On research 'representativeness' Re:
[WSIS CS-Plenary] LAUNCH of INTERNET GOVERNANCE PROJECT


Hmmm, at first your argument seemed reasonable but 
then I realized that it was advanced by a white male from
the North - and only one of them, to boot. (Much less representative
than us - at least we have different age groups and European
ethnicities!) Clearly, your contribution to this discussion ignores the
broader social political and 
cultural context of research and researchers, so I must 
reject it....

I would suggest that if you wish to evaluate research,
you really had better get into the "ins and outs of the particular
research" and not reduce people or their writing to preconceived
categories. This kind of posturing is useless.

--MM

>>> mgurst@vcn.bc.ca 07/21/04 08:51PM >>>
Without getting into the ins and outs of this particular research
project it certainly goes in opposition to most of the recent
discussion/analysis in the philosophy/sociology of science to ignore the
broader (social, political, cultural) context of "research" and of the
"researchers" and including their nationality, gender, intellectual
history (what 'school' they belong to for example) and the
representativeness of the perspectives that are "suggested" by these
circumstances.  

It should be surprising to no one that the more political/policy
sensitive the subject matter the more these contextual circumstances are
broadly (and politically) seen as being of relevance with respect to the
research, its conduct, its outcome and its likely significance.

So let's not be too outraged at having folks somewhat less than
uniformly sympathetic (ie. somewhat suspicious) of a research project
which appears to the outsider to be uniformly northern, Eurocentric, and
male.

MG



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From labsmsi at yahoo.ca  Thu Jul 22 14:53:02 2004
From: labsmsi at yahoo.ca (=?iso-8859-1?q?normand=20landry?=)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Human Rights Watch report on Tunisia
Message-ID: <20040722135302.41782.qmail@web51403.mail.yahoo.com>


 

This might not be available to people in Tunisia. Please make it circulate.

Il se peut que ce rapport ne puisse ?tre accessible en Tunisie. SVP, faites circuler.

Normand

 

TUNISIA: LONG-TERM SOLITARY CONFINEMENT OF POLITICAL PRISONERS

http://hrw.org/reports/2004/tunisia0704/tunisia0704.pdf

TUNISIE

L?ISOLEMENT CELLULAIRE PROLONG? DE PRISONNIERS POLITIQUES

http://hrw.org/french/reports/2004/tunisia0704/tunisia0704fr.pdf

 




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From mgurst at vcn.bc.ca  Thu Jul 22 15:48:34 2004
From: mgurst at vcn.bc.ca (Michael Gurstein)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: On research 'representativeness' Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] LAUNCH of INTERNET GOVERNANCE PROJECT
In-Reply-To: <66ACEE3F-DBD2-11D8-9C1D-0003935A8C90@ras.eu.org>
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I'm not sure that this is the place to get drawn into this discussion, but
anyway...

Contra Meryem, the issue in research is not simply "who is funding the
research", but rather in many cases it is "who is funded to do the research"
(and here I am deliberately excluding from this discussion the IGP research
group, several of whom I know and for whom I have the highest personal and
professional regard). 

The issue of research bias certainly in the social sciences is not usually
as overt as funders defining research agendas, rather it comes in through
funders funding certain researchers with known or anticipated perspectives
or, more significantly, the absence of funding for researchers with
divergent perspectives or who simply don't appear on the research funding
radar or whose personal circumstance (e.g. where they live) precludes their
obtaining funding for undertaking certain types of research and in that I
would include most researchers from LDC's, from non-elite institutions and
so on.

So the question of "context" and its significance for research is less that
of casting aspersions on specific research or researchers and more one of
identifying which (research) voices are being heard and more particularly in
this way identifying which (research) voices are not being heard. (And this
is of even greater significance in research with specific policy impact
since one would expect (and hope) there to be a wide diversity of
perspectives and where the ABSENCE of funding in practice acts as a basis
for bias and may in turn have profound policy significance.)

It should also be pointed out that in certain areas (and I would argue in
those areas of particular interest to Civil Society), it is more or less
impossible to do useful and meaningful research without including the
research "subjects" as significant partners in the conduct of the research.


In my own area, Community Informatics, where the objective is not simply
studying how things are with the community applications of ICTs, but also in
making a useful contribution through applying this knowledge to further
enhancing and enabling these applications, the research "subjects" are
necessary partners and contributors to the research. Without their active
participation, the research/application/research cycle is incomplete.

Thus the issue is not "formal" representativeness but rather meaningful and
inclusive partnerships with those with a stake in the conduct, outcome, and
application of the research. 

Michael Gurstein

-----Original Message-----
From: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org [mailto:plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org] On Behalf
Of Meryem Marzouki
Sent: July 22, 2004 4:30 AM
To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
Subject: Re: On research 'representativeness' Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] LAUNCH
of INTERNET GOVERNANCE PROJECT


Hi Lisa and all,

I thought it was obvious to everyone that the broader context of a 
research work should by no mean be ignored, and I've myself provided 
some of these broader criteria, including who is funding the given 
research project, thus setting the agenda in some way or another. Putting it
simply and roughly, there is no such thing as 'neutrality' 
or 'objectivity' of a research project.

But all these criteria apply for assessing the research results, not as 
criteria to discredit or delegitimize any research project or research 
team.

And -- most importantly --, putting together a so-called representative 
group of researchers should never be used as an argument to a contrario 
legitimize a research project. First, the group will always miss 
someone to reach true 'representativeness'. Second, as Milton already 
said, it could be "an empty gesture" if these people don't actually 
work together. Third, even if the people actually work together, this 
may mean that they are more or less like-minded people with respect to 
many criteria : although this may indeed provide different perspectives 
in some cases, why on earth gender, ethnicity, country of origin, etc. 
would guarantee this diversity of perspectives ? How could it be 
quantified ? Doesn't this mean, on the contrary, that these people, 
having chosen each other to form a group, will show less diversity than 
expected? Fourth, and this is essential to me, what would be the claim 
of such a group regarding its research results ? "Look how wonderfully 
representative our group is: we've got women and men (and tried to take 
into account their sexual orientations, too), we've got fine quotas of 
ethnicity, we've got 2/3 of people from the South and 1/3 from the 
North (no parity, in order to counter-balance the inequal exchange), 
and, last but not least, we've ensured perfect multistakeholderism. 
Moreover, the research results of this group shows the perfect 
consensus. And then... how could you dare discussing these research 
results ? We are legitimate and credible, and so are our research 
results".
More seriously, good research is diverse research, so that different 
results can be confronted. I'm not saying that we should exclude anyone 
from a given group, or only set-up non 'mixed' groups, just explaining 
why I consider this kind of criteria ('research representativeness') a 
fake, and why I consider it dangerous.

Showing "representativeness" may be good to obtain funding for 
consulting work and more generally speaking when politically 
correctness must be shown, not for achieving scientific research.

Meryem

Le mercredi, 21 juil 2004, ? 16:18 Europe/Paris, mclauglm@po.muohio.edu 
a ?crit :

> Thank you, Michael, for stating the issue so well. And may I add that
> the notion of "representativeness" should always be interrogated, 
> certainly in our own research, whether or not this work is labeled 
> "scientific research," and even if such queries appear to have the 
> effect of raining on someone else's parade. I'm interested in--but, as 
> a feminist scholar and activist, not amazed at--the notion that 
> scientific research should be exempt from being questioned as to its 
> representativeness. Meryem, what seems dangerous to me is the idea 
> that attempts to achieve representativeness in research will result in 
> nothing productive, just "fake research." Of course it will always 
> fall short--all of us will always fall short in this respect--but at 
> least one can make every effort to be as inclusive as possible (which 
> doesn't entirely rest on the question of whether funding exists for 
> the project).
>
> My best wishes for the possibility that many internet governance
> projects will spring up all over the world, that all are as inclusive 
> and transnational as possible, that all secure adequate funding, and 
> that there is productive dialogue among them despite differences.
>
> Best,
>
> Lisa
>
>
>> Without getting into the ins and outs of this particular research 
>> project it certainly goes in opposition to most of the recent 
>> discussion/analysis in the philosophy/sociology of science to ignore 
>> the broader (social, political, cultural) context of "research" and 
>> of the "researchers" and including their nationality, gender, 
>> intellectual history (what 'school' they belong to for example) and 
>> the representativeness of the perspectives that are "suggested" by 
>> these circumstances.
>> It should be surprising to no one that the more political/policy
>> sensitive the subject matter the more these contextual circumstances 
>> are
>> broadly (and politically) seen as being of relevance with respect to 
>> the
>> research, its conduct, its outcome and its likely significance.
>>
>> So let's not be too outraged at having folks somewhat less than 
>> uniformly sympathetic (ie. somewhat suspicious) of a research project 
>> which appears to the outsider to be uniformly northern, Eurocentric, 
>> and male.
>>
>> MG
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org [mailto:plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Meryem Marzouki
>> Sent: July 20, 2004 2:19 AM
>> To: plenary@wsis-cs.org
>> Subject: On research 'representativeness' Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] 
>> LAUNCH of INTERNET GOVERNANCE PROJECT
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Le mardi, 20 juil 2004, ? 04:30 Europe/Paris, Milton Mueller a ?crit 
>> :
>>
>> [...]
>>>  Bottom line: If the research we produce is considered by others to
>>> be
>>>  unrepresentative of South perspectives or other perspectives, then
>>>  educate us - criticize it and reject it. Or, better yet,
>>>  form a group that can do it better. IGP enjoys no
>>>  special monopoly on the topic and anyone else can set up
>>>  something similar. Thus, while longer term we do
>>>  intend to expand if possible, I would have to reject
>>>  the implication that no university can publish or do
>>>  research on Internet governance unless it first
>>>  sets up an apparatus of global representation
>>>  (the representativeness of which could always be
>>>  contested anyway).
>>
>> Let me add that I've been quite amazed to read the comments after the
>> announcement of this IG project: it has clearly been presented as a 
>> scientific research project, and since when scientific research 
>> should be considered or assessed against such criteria as 
>> 'representativeness'
>>
>> ? There are many other criteria, scientific and non scientific
>> (though still relevant, like who's funding the research, the 
>> researchers' perpectives, their personal positions, etc.), which do 
>> apply for such assessment. But I never heard of (and would never 
>> accept, as both a scientific researcher and an activist) something 
>> called 'representative
>>
>> research'. This would be nothing but a fake, and a very dangerous
>> one. Almost as dangerous as a so-called 'civil society 
>> representativeness' :-)
>> Although I have absolutely nothing against wearing both research and 
>> activism hats - specially since this is also my own case - I feel 
>> very concerned about what seems to be a totally inappropriate mix 
>> ('m?lange des genres', in French).
>>
>> What would be relevant, and very useful, however, is to keep track of
>> different research projets on this issue, to exchange information, 
>> etc., and this list could be one of the means used for that. Although 
>> a
>>
>> formal collaboration and exchange process would indeed require
>> funding,
>>
>> such a loose network and/or database of resources (existing projects,
>> people working on IG, papers, reports, study data and results, 
>> comments, criticisms, etc.) may be started at very marginal costs. 
>> Moreover, as a researcher working on IG issues in France (with other 
>> colleagues), I would be pleased to contribute to the definition and 
>> set
>>
>> up of such a - multilingual - database, and provide tools for an
>> ongoing 'electronic colloquium' (starting only from September, I'm 
>> afraid).
>>
>> I've been glad to learn that this IG project has been launched by our
>> colleagues in the US, and I would also be pleased to learn of any 
>> other
>>
>> similar project anywhere in the world : the more perspectives we can
>> show, the richer the research results would be. We could  use all the 
>> opportunities to meet, like international conferences, etc., to 
>> discuss
>>
>> this scientific network setup possibility, if anyone is interested. I
>> hope that the session on 'Internet Political Governance and Technical 
>> Government' I'm co-organizing during the next 4S/EASST Conference in 
>> Paris (August 25-28, 2004) will provide such an opportunity (see 
>> Session S7 at: http://www.csi.ensmp.fr/csi/programme_4S/jour/
>> programme_jour.php?jour=FRI).
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Meryem
>> _______________________________________________
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From webmaster at nilebasin.com  Thu Jul 22 16:39:51 2004
From: webmaster at nilebasin.com (Nabil El-Khodari)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: On research 'representativeness' Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] LAUNCH of INTERNET GOVERNANCE PROJECT
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Dear all:

The issue of representativeness should apply to the research target
(sample) and not to the researchers. No one can argue that a
'representative' sample is not important to the results of the research. I
agree with Meryem that the most important criterion about the researchers
is their 'cohesiveness' and 'commitment' rather than 'representation'; if
that what she means.

Sincerely,

Nabil El-Khodari
Treasurer/Founder
Nile Basin Society

http://www.nilebasin.com
http://nile.ca/
http://www.nilebasin.net

Tel: +1 (647) 722-3265
Fax: +1 (647) 722-3273

108 Waterbury Dr.
Toronto, Ontario M9R 3Y3
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From webmaster at nilebasin.com  Thu Jul 22 17:18:47 2004
From: webmaster at nilebasin.com (Nabil El-Khodari)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Human Rights Watch report on Tunisia
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Dear all:

I believe that references to Human Rights in Tunisia is not an issue that
would be of interest to us to linger on. Let us be positive and discuss
the issues related to ICT. I assure you all - as an Arab, not Tunisian -
that you should all expect hospitality and respect that would linger in
your memory for life and all of us will have the freedom to say what we
want. However, we should all be respective of certain cultural traditions
of the host country. It is a different culture for sure. Let the
Tunisians - not the visitors - criticize Tunisia. It would be an insult to
attack the host, however, according to Arabic tradition, as long as you
are their guest, you can get away with almost any thing.

Let us be productive and positive, please.


Sincerely,



Nabil El-Khodari

Treasurer/Founder

Nile Basin Society



http://www.nilebasin.com

http://nile.ca/

http://www.nilebasin.net



Tel: +1 (647) 722-3265

Fax: +1 (647) 722-3273



108 Waterbury Dr.

Toronto, Ontario M9R 3Y3

Canada



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From rkoven at compuserve.com  Thu Jul 22 18:22:22 2004
From: rkoven at compuserve.com (Ronald Koven)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] RE: Call for silence
Message-ID: <200407221322_MC3-1-8712-DA1B@compuserve.com>

Dear All --

There is a name for what the Nile Basin Society is asking us to do. 

It is called self-censorship.

Neither Tunisian hospitality nor Arab culture are the issues.

Tunisian regression from the free speech and human rights situation
inherited from Habib Bourguiba is the issue.

Human rights, by definition, concern everyone -- not just citizens of the
host country. When freedom of expression and press freedom are diminished
in one country, they are diminished for all humanity. 

Sorry if that sounds preachy, but it is one of those self-evident truths of
which we need to keep reminding ourselves. 

It certainly would be nice if we didn't need to keep repeating such home
truths. 

The broken record that human rights advocates feel they must keep replaying
merely reflects the bad human rights record with which they are confronted.

Rony Koven


From webmaster at nilebasin.com  Thu Jul 22 20:05:00 2004
From: webmaster at nilebasin.com (Nabil El-Khodari)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] RE: Call for silence
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I am sorry that my comment - or rather 'point of order' - is taken to mean
self-censorship. What I need to say is that this forum has a function,
i.e. to prepare for the next WSIS in Tunisia 2005. We cannot change Tunis
- neither as the place for the WSIS nor its governance. If we are
concerned by human rights, we should know and appreciate that:
1. Change does not come from the outside.
2. There are other forums more suitable for these discussions.

Let us concentrate this forum on what it is meant to do and do not waste
our time and efforts on useless discussions.

If human rights are an issue for this forum it is as much as the freedom
to access to information, which hopefully we can foster.

I hate censorship as much as I hate anarchy. If any one have visited the
sites listed below, they will know better than to accuse me of censorship.


Again, all I am saying is let us concentrate this forum on discussions
related to the WSIS and preparing NGOs without undue distractions. If
issues of freedom are to be raised, they must come in a general
recommendation (affecting may be all developing countries) and not as one
targeted to our host. Does that make any sense?

Sincerely,

Nabil El-Khodari
Treasurer/Founder
Nile Basin Society

http://www.nilebasin.com
http://nile.ca/
http://www.nilebasin.net

Tel: +1 (647) 722-3265
Fax: +1 (647) 722-3273

108 Waterbury Dr.
Toronto, Ontario M9R 3Y3
Canada

"If the people will lead, the leaders will follow." Dr. David Suzuki
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From echaparro at uolsinectis.com.ar  Fri Jul 23 01:10:56 2004
From: echaparro at uolsinectis.com.ar (Enrique A. Chaparro)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: Feeding the troll was: [WSIS CS-Plenary] RE: Call for silence
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAnKjosiYaGkCy7DrFcuiPt8KAAAAQAAAAzKyEWq+7pkWQLtexcEhXWQEAAAAA@nilebasin.com>
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Message-ID: <20040722211056.27ddf5f4.echaparro@uolsinectis.com.ar>

On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 15:05:00 -0400
"Nabil El-Khodari" <webmaster@nilebasin.com> wrote:

Even taking the risk of feeding a troll, because I feel your message
as a flame bait, I can't but reply since the issue is particularly 
sensitive for me.

NEK> [...] What I need to say is that this forum has a
NEK> function, i.e. to prepare for the next WSIS in Tunisia 2005. We
NEK> cannot change Tunis- neither as the place for the WSIS nor its
NEK> governance. If we are concerned by human rights, we should know and
NEK> appreciate that: 1. Change does not come from the outside.
NEK> 2. There are other forums more suitable for these discussions.

(a) The mission of this forum extends well beyond ``preparing for
the next WSIS''. This is a virtual place for agreeing common CS
policies and actions.

(b) `Change does not come from the outside'. True. But solidarity
from outside helps to foster the changes. Helps to give a voice to
dissidents. Helps to press dictatorial governments.

(c) _Each_and_every_ forum is suitable for discussing human rights
issues. Particularly this one, since CS organizations have affirmed
the supremacy of human rights in the construction of the information
society (see e.g. chapter 2 of
http://www.worldsummit2003.de/download_en/CS-Essential-Benchmarks-for-WSIS-11-12-03-en.rtf )

NEK> Let us concentrate this forum on what it is meant to do and do not
NEK> waste our time and efforts on useless discussions.
NEK> If human rights are an issue for this forum it is as much as the
NEK> freedom to access to information, which hopefully we can foster.

Human rights are an issue in this forum. All human rights. And a
crucial issue. Please see above referred document.
 
NEK> I hate censorship as much as I hate anarchy. If any one have visited
NEK> the sites listed below, they will know better than to accuse me of
NEK> censorship.

As a side note, I sincerely hope that you tried to mean `chaos' instead
of `anarchy'

NEK> 
NEK> 
NEK> Again, all I am saying is let us concentrate this forum on
NEK> discussions related to the WSIS and preparing NGOs without undue
NEK> distractions. If issues of freedom are to be raised, they must come
NEK> in a general recommendation (affecting may be all developing
NEK> countries) and not as one targeted to our host. Does that make any
NEK> sense?

If human rights issues are ``undue distractions'' from your viewpoint,
I'm afraid you got into the wrong place.
 
Sincerely,

Enrique


-- 
``Izena duen guzia omen da.''
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From mueller at syr.edu  Fri Jul 23 06:05:00 2004
From: mueller at syr.edu (Milton Mueller)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] RE: On research 'representativeness' Re:
	[WSIS CS-Plenary] LAUNCH of INTERNET
Message-ID: <s100644c.062@gwia201.syr.edu>

>>> mgurst@vcn.bc.ca 07/22/04 08:22AM >>>

>My point was simply to suggest that "research" like all "knowledge" 
>and knowledge oriented activity derives much of its meaning and 
>significance from its context and the more politically charged the 
>subject matter("global Internet policy/governance" for example), 
>the more significant this relationship to the context becomes...

Yes, of course. We agree on this. But as you note, if there are flaws 
in the research that can be attributed to such context, one must
evaluate the research a) after it is done, and b) on the basis
of the content, not the region, skin color gender etc of the 
producers. Meryem (as usual) made this point much more eloquently
and a lot less sarcastically than me. 

Let me try to get this back on a more productive tack. As noted before,
we are searching more a model for *meaningful* networking
and collaboration among geographically distributed IG groups
that would increase diversity of overall efforts, even if it makes 
nost sense for me and my immediate colleagues . We invite people to 
send us papers on current IGP topics, which we can link to or post. 

--MM


-----Original Message-----
From: plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org [mailto:plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org] On
Behalf Of Milton Mueller
Sent: July 22, 2004 1:58 AM
To: mgurst@vcn.bc.ca; plenary@wsis-cs.org 
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] RE: On research 'representativeness' Re:
[WSIS CS-Plenary] LAUNCH of INTERNET GOVERNANCE PROJECT


Hmmm, at first your argument seemed reasonable but 
then I realized that it was advanced by a white male from
the North - and only one of them, to boot. (Much less representative
than us - at least we have different age groups and European
ethnicities!) Clearly, your contribution to this discussion ignores the
broader social political and 
cultural context of research and researchers, so I must 
reject it....

I would suggest that if you wish to evaluate research,
you really had better get into the "ins and outs of the particular
research" and not reduce people or their writing to preconceived
categories. This kind of posturing is useless.

--MM

>>> mgurst@vcn.bc.ca 07/21/04 08:51PM >>>
Without getting into the ins and outs of this particular research
project it certainly goes in opposition to most of the recent
discussion/analysis in the philosophy/sociology of science to ignore the
broader (social, political, cultural) context of "research" and of the
"researchers" and including their nationality, gender, intellectual
history (what 'school' they belong to for example) and the
representativeness of the perspectives that are "suggested" by these
circumstances.  

It should be surprising to no one that the more political/policy
sensitive the subject matter the more these contextual circumstances are
broadly (and politically) seen as being of relevance with respect to the
research, its conduct, its outcome and its likely significance.

So let's not be too outraged at having folks somewhat less than
uniformly sympathetic (ie. somewhat suspicious) of a research project
which appears to the outsider to be uniformly northern, Eurocentric, and
male.

MG



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From westasiaregion at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 23 08:54:16 2004
From: westasiaregion at hotmail.com (west Asia)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] RE: Call for silence
References: <200407221322_MC3-1-8712-DA1B@compuserve.com>
Message-ID: <Sea1-DAV58S48qun63Q00008699@hotmail.com>

Dear Ronald

Thanks for clarification, it is exactly the same pretext that Islamic regime
in Iran is misusing to deny freedom of expression and closing every week a
newspaper in this country, the say we should obey the Islamic values and
cultural values, what the hell these two have anything to do with freedom of
expression and human rights, its just an excuse to keep us quiet.

Human rights and freedom of expression are global values, beyond religion
and country, we should all respect and advocate it.
I ma also very happy that the international and especially the western
community is pushing for this and criticizing governments, otherwise they
will mute us inside.

Thanks

Amir

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ronald Koven" <rkoven@compuserve.com>
To: <plenary@wsis-cs.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 9:52 PM
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] RE: Call for silence


Dear All --

There is a name for what the Nile Basin Society is asking us to do.

It is called self-censorship.

Neither Tunisian hospitality nor Arab culture are the issues.

Tunisian regression from the free speech and human rights situation
inherited from Habib Bourguiba is the issue.

Human rights, by definition, concern everyone -- not just citizens of the
host country. When freedom of expression and press freedom are diminished
in one country, they are diminished for all humanity.

Sorry if that sounds preachy, but it is one of those self-evident truths of
which we need to keep reminding ourselves.

It certainly would be nice if we didn't need to keep repeating such home
truths.

The broken record that human rights advocates feel they must keep replaying
merely reflects the bad human rights record with which they are confronted.

Rony Koven

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From rguerra at lists.privaterra.org  Fri Jul 23 17:54:50 2004
From: rguerra at lists.privaterra.org (Robert Guerra)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Civiblog project
In-Reply-To: <Sea1-DAV58S48qun63Q00008699@hotmail.com>
References: <200407221322_MC3-1-8712-DA1B@compuserve.com>
 <Sea1-DAV58S48qun63Q00008699@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <p06200601bd26f34723c5@[192.168.1.251]>

A colleague organization has asked me to forward news of this 
exciting new initiative along. Hope it's of interest.

regards

Robert
----



Civiblog Project

The Citizen Lab is organizing a new project called Civiblog that 
involves making available to Canadians working for NGOs abroad free 
blogging space.?For those who don?t know, blogs (or weblogs as they 
are also called) are online (ie Internet-based) daily journals.

We are looking to find as many Canadians as we can who are working 
for NGOS abroad to write blogs that will be hosted on the Civiblog 
community of sites.

(One example of such a blog that we've already created is the 
Kandahar Chronicles, written by an MSF logistician working in 
Afghanistan, which can be found here: 
<http://ngoblog.citizenlab.org/kandaharchronicles/>http://ngoblog.citizenlab.org/kandaharchronicles/)

There will be one major "meta-site," maintained by us at the Citizen Lab, that
will link together all of the participants and house a collection of 
constantly updated resources that participants might find useful -- 
things like reports on staying safe in zones of conflict, job 
postings, travel advisories, etc.  We anticipate hundreds of 
Canadian-NGO bloggers creating over time a virtual community that 
will benefit everyone.?

The site is currently under construction, but can be viewed here: 
<http://www.civiblog.org/>http://www.civiblog.org/

Participation costs nothing.  The blog space will be free. 
Participants can update their blogs as often or as seldom as they 
like and it is up to them to decide what they are able or want to 
write about.

We will also make available space on the blogs for digital pictures 
and videos to be posted for those who have the equipment.

It?s a great way to host one?s own website for free so that friends 
and family can keep in touch.

If you are interested or want to hear more, please contact the person in charge
of the project, Graeme Bunton, at 
<mailto:graeme@citizenlab.org>graeme@citizenlab.org

Regards,
Ron Deibert

Ronald J. Deibert
Associate Professor of Political Science
Director, the Citizen Lab
Munk Centre for International Studies
University of Toronto
1 Devonshire Place
Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5S-3K7
Phone: (416) 946-8916
Fax: (416) 946-8915
<http://www.citizenlab.org/>http://www.citizenlab.org/
<mailto:r.deibert@utoronto.ca>r.deibert@utoronto.ca

--
###
Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.org>
Privaterra - <http://www.privaterra.org>

From ralf.bendrath at sfb597.uni-bremen.de  Sat Jul 24 18:05:08 2004
From: ralf.bendrath at sfb597.uni-bremen.de (Ralf Bendrath)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] next UN ICT Task Force Meeting in Berlin: 19./20 November
Message-ID: <410296C4.1ECDFDD3@sfb597.uni-bremen.de>

The Task Force will also have a global open forum again, this time
around financing/enabling environment.  
There is some discussion offlist at the moment (as one outcome ofthe
recent public voice conference call) to have a global WSIS civil society
meeting around this event. What do people think about it?

Best, Ralf

-------- Original Message --------
Date: Friday, July 23, 2004 12:01 PM +0200
From: Hellmonds Peter <peter.hellmonds@siemens.com>
To: 'Human Resource Development and Capacity-Building Working Group' 
<human@unicttaskforce.org>
Subject: [human] Date for Task Force Meeting: 19./20November

Dear all,

please note that the date has changed.
While it was originally scheduled for Nov. 5/6 the next UN ICT TF
meeting has been postponed to

	Nov 19/20.

The venue Berlin remains the same.

Looking forward to see you all in Berlin!

With kind regards,

Peter H. Hellmonds
Siemens AG, Information & Communication Networks
Public & International Affairs (ICN M SR)
Hofmannstr. 51, D-81359 Munchen
Phone: +49-89-722-36256, Fax: +49-89-722-28139
e-mail: peter.hellmonds@siemens.com
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From richardjordan at lycos.com  Sat Jul 24 19:33:16 2004
From: richardjordan at lycos.com (richard jordan)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] next UN ICT Task Force Meeting in Berlin:
    19./20 November
Message-ID: <20040724183316.C988B30E7DF@ws7-1a.us4.outblaze.com>

Extremely useful, may I even suggest GDZ Haus as a venue, easy travel-wise, a wonderful facility, and really a valuable place in which to hold a global forum on this topic.

Break-out space is somewhat limited, although there is a partner organization about 200 meters away with such space. The one Global Compact Learning Exercise, which also was splendid, that I attended was hosted there.

Only problem is availability of the space on those dates, I would not know if the time is already booked.

Richard Jordan

----- Original Message -----
From: Ralf Bendrath <ralf.bendrath@sfb597.uni-bremen.de>
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 19:05:08 +0200
To: wsis-cs-plenary <plenary@wsis-cs.org>
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] next UN ICT Task Force Meeting in Berlin: 19./20 November

> The Task Force will also have a global open forum again, this time
> around financing/enabling environment.  
> There is some discussion offlist at the moment (as one outcome ofthe
> recent public voice conference call) to have a global WSIS civil society
> meeting around this event. What do people think about it?
> 
> Best, Ralf
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Date: Friday, July 23, 2004 12:01 PM +0200
> From: Hellmonds Peter <peter.hellmonds@siemens.com>
> To: 'Human Resource Development and Capacity-Building Working Group' 
> <human@unicttaskforce.org>
> Subject: [human] Date for Task Force Meeting: 19./20November
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> please note that the date has changed.
> While it was originally scheduled for Nov. 5/6 the next UN ICT TF
> meeting has been postponed to
> 
> 	Nov 19/20.
> 
> The venue Berlin remains the same.
> 
> Looking forward to see you all in Berlin!
> 
> With kind regards,
> 
> Peter H. Hellmonds
> Siemens AG, Information & Communication Networks
> Public & International Affairs (ICN M SR)
> Hofmannstr. 51, D-81359 Munchen
> Phone: +49-89-722-36256, Fax: +49-89-722-28139
> e-mail: peter.hellmonds@siemens.com
> _______________________________________________
> Human Resource Development and Capacity-Building Working Group mailing
> list human@unicttaskforce.org
> http://www.unicttaskforce.org/perl/showdoc.pl?area=wg3
> _______________________________________________
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From anut_togo at yahoo.fr  Sun Jul 25 12:12:16 2004
From: anut_togo at yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?secretariat=20general?=)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] next UN ICT Task Force Meeting in Berlin:    19./20 November
In-Reply-To: <20040724183316.C988B30E7DF@ws7-1a.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <20040725111216.16778.qmail@web42007.mail.yahoo.com>

Salut cher ami
je viens de recevoir votre lettre sur la tenue du forum  a berlin. Nous somes le jeune association des nations unies pour le togo et nous voulons participer  a cete conference pour acquerir l'experience et la faire fleurir chez nous.
Priere donc nous ecrire en details sur les modalit?s de participations et autres.
AMEGAH-ATSYON Kossivi
Secretaire general de l'association des nations unies pour le togo(ANUT)

richard jordan <richardjordan@lycos.com> wrote:
Extremely useful, may I even suggest GDZ Haus as a venue, easy travel-wise, a wonderful facility, and really a valuable place in which to hold a global forum on this topic.

Break-out space is somewhat limited, although there is a partner organization about 200 meters away with such space. The one Global Compact Learning Exercise, which also was splendid, that I attended was hosted there.

Only problem is availability of the space on those dates, I would not know if the time is already booked.

Richard Jordan

----- Original Message -----
From: Ralf Bendrath 
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 19:05:08 +0200
To: wsis-cs-plenary 

Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] next UN ICT Task Force Meeting in Berlin: 19./20 November

> The Task Force will also have a global open forum again, this time
> around financing/enabling environment. 
> There is some discussion offlist at the moment (as one outcome ofthe
> recent public voice conference call) to have a global WSIS civil society
> meeting around this event. What do people think about it?
> 
> Best, Ralf
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Date: Friday, July 23, 2004 12:01 PM +0200
> From: Hellmonds Peter 

> To: 'Human Resource Development and Capacity-Building Working Group' 
> 
> Subject: [human] Date for Task Force Meeting: 19./20November
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> please note that the date has changed.
> While it was originally scheduled for Nov. 5/6 the next UN ICT TF
> meeting has been postponed to
> 
> Nov 19/20.
> 
> The venue Berlin remains the same.
> 
> Looking forward to see you all in Berlin!
> 
> With kind regards,
> 
> Peter H. Hellmonds
> Siemens AG, Information & Communication Networks
> Public & International Affairs (ICN M SR)
> Hofmannstr. 51, D-81359 Munchen
> Phone: +49-89-722-36256, Fax: +49-89-722-28139
> e-mail: peter.hellmonds@siemens.com
> _______________________________________________
> Human Resource Development and Capacity-Building Working Group mailing
> list human@unicttaskforce.org
> http://www.unicttaskforce.org/perl/showdoc.pl?area=wg3
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From katitza at speedy.com.pe  Sun Jul 18 16:50:08 2004
From: katitza at speedy.com.pe (Katitza Rodriguez)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Fwd: [cpsr-announce] "Computer Ate My Vote" Campaign
Message-ID: <200407181050.08841.katitza@speedy.com.pe>

fyi
----------  Mensaje reenviado  ----------

Subject: [cpsr-announce] "Computer Ate My Vote" Campaign
Date: Viernes, 16 de Julio de 2004 14:37
From: sevoy@cpsr.org
To: cpsr-announce@lists.cpsr.org

"Computer Ate My Vote"
Kick-Off Day of Action in 18 U.S. States
July 13, 2004

Rallies Nationwide Organized for Election Integrity and Paper Ballots
by a Coalition including Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility

Voters Asked Election Officials to Pledge to Count All Votes

Democracy is at risk unless state officials adopt voting machines
that produce paper trails by November

In the largest grassroots response to date to the security risks of
touch-screen voting machines, a coalition of prominent national
organizations representing a combined membership of over 3 million
Americans held a day of action across 18 states, in 24 cities,
urging elected officials to adopt voting systems that produce fool-
proof paper trails by the U.S. November 2004 election.

The campaign targets states that are currently slated to use
paperless electronic voting terminals - the same machines that
have already lost or changed votes in states across the country.
As many as 50 million Americans will use flawed touch-screen
voting machines unless action is taken soon to ensure voting security.

Attendees at this nationwide "Computer Ate My Vote" day of action
presented petitions favoring VVPBs and asked state election officials
to sign a Pledge for Election Integrity. The pledge commits the
signatories to use their authority to ensure the integrity of voting in
their state by requiring computerized voting machines to produce
paper records.

In June 2004 California Secretary of State Kevin Shelley issued
standards for an accessible, voter verified paper audit trail.

JULY 13 RALLIES TOOK PLACE IN THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS:
San Diego, CA; Denver, CO; Hartford, CT; Ft. Lauderdale, FL;
Fort Myers, FL; New Port Richey, FL; Sarasota, FL;Tallahassee, FL;
Tampa, FL; West Palm Beach, FL;Indianapolis, IN; Annapolis, MD;
Boston, MA; Trenton, NJ;Santa Fe, NM; Albany, NY; Raleigh, NC;
Columbus, OH;Philadelphia, PA; Columbia, SC; Austin, TX;
Salt Lake City, UT; Everett, WA; Madison, WI

CONTACT:
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pam@verifiedvoting.org
760 613-0172 (cell)

Will Doherty, Executive Director, VerifiedVoting.org
press@verifiedvoting.org
415 695-0543 (office), 415 425-3936 (cell)
***

Coalition organizations include VerifiedVoting.org,
TrueMajority.org, Democracy For America, Common Cause,
Electronic Frontier Foundation, MoveOn.org, Working Assets,
National Coalition for Voting Integrity, and Computer
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Susan Evoy * Managing Director
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Phone: (650) 322-3778 * (650) 322-4748 (fax)
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From accuosto at chasque.net  Mon Jul 19 20:37:58 2004
From: accuosto at chasque.net (Pablo Accuosto)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] =?iso-8859-1?Q?WSIS_II:_Research_project_/_Projet_d'investigation_/_Proye?=
 =?iso-8859-1?Q?cto_de_investigaci=F3n?=
Message-ID: <016801c46dc8$16dd38a0$4704a8c0@paullier.net>

Announcement - Research project - Papers towards WSIS II

Annonce - Projet d'investigation - Articles pour la seconde ?tape du SMSI

Anuncio - Proyecto de investigaci?n - Art?culos para la segunda etapa de la CMSI

 

* Please distribute* 

 

The Third World Institute (Instituto del Tercer Mundo, ITeM) is seeking scholars and activists to participate in a research project intended to contribute to the second phase of the World Summit on the Information (WSIS) decision-making process.

 

Research will be focused on key issues of interest to developing countries and, based on it, position and briefing papers will be produced to advise Southern negotiators and working groups on the policy implications of the different proposals they will be considering during the Summit process.

 

During the preparatory process for the Tunis WSIS phase events (workshops and/or roundtables) will be organized with the aim of publicizing the research concluded or in progress and involving the different stakeholders in discussions on the issues under study. Some of the document authors may be invited to present their contributions at these events.

 

The project is open to receive research proposals focused on at least one of the following topics:

 

I. Funding mechanisms for the development of communications in the South

 

Examples of research issues that could be addressed under this topic include (but are not limited to): Institutional arrangments for ICTs provision in the South; Taxing ICTs as an equitable source of revenues; Sustaining social and technical networks after initial funding; ICT financing in the framework of a global partnership for development, Financing infrastructure development in places that lack basic telecommunications services.

 

II. Internet governance and global ICTs policies

 

Examples of research issues that could be addressed under this topic include (but are not limited to): Institutional arrangements for the democratization of the Internet; Southern civil society involvement in ICT policy definition; Social impacts and the definition of technological standards; Human rights protection and new ICTs.

 

III. Issues left out of the WSIS agenda

 

Examples of research issues that could be addressed under this topic include (but are not limited to): Linking WSIS Agenda to other multilateral processes; The impact of intellectual property rights (IPRs) in the development of global communications; A Southern civil society perspective of ICTs for Human Development; Effective mechanisms to bring down non-physical barriers to access (pricing, trade, patents and censorship policies); ICTs policies for poverty reduction, health promotion and environmental sustainability; ICTs policies for traditional knowledge protection; Education paradigms in ICTs from a multicultural perspective; etc.


Scholars and activists with expertise on these topics should submit a CV, a relevant writing sample and a one-paragraph description of research interests via e-mail by July 30, 2004 to Pablo Accuosto at wsis2@item.org.uy.  

 

Participants will receive an honorarium for their involvement.

 

The project is particularly interested in participants from the developing world.


For more information about the project, please visit http://wsispapers.choike.org/
For more information about ITeM, please visit http://www.item.org.uy/ 

 

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Annonce - Projet d'investigation - Articles pour la seconde ?tape du SMSI

 

* Distribuez svp *

 

L'Institut du Tiers-Monde (Instituto del Tercer Mudno, ITeM) recherche des sp?cialistes et des activistes pour participer ? un projet d'investigation avec l'objectif de contribuer ? la seconde ?tape du Sommet Mondial sur la Soci?t? d'Information (SMSI).

 

La recherche sera centr?e sur des probl?mes cruciaux pour les pays en voie de d?veloppement et, ? partir de l?, on produira des briefings et position papers, qui seront distribu?s parmi les d?l?gu?s gouvernementaux des pays du Sud, ainsi que parmi les participants des groupes de travail qui participeront aux d?finitions de politiques pour cette ?tape du Sommet. Ces documents informeront les personnes en position de promouvoir ces politiques avec leurs cons?quences et impacts possibles sur les pays du Sud.

 

Durant le processus pr?paratoire de la phase de Tunis du SMSI, il y aura des activit?s (ateliers et/ou tables rondes), avec l'objectif de faire conna?tre les r?sultats des investigations (termin?es ou en cours) entre les diff?rents acteurs concern?s par les discussions qui auront lieu pendant cette phase du SMSI. Quelques auteurs des investigations pourront ?tre invit?s ? pr?senter leurs contributions durant ces ?v?nements.

 

Le projet est ouvert ? toute proposition d'investigation comprise pour le moins dans un des th?mes suivants :

 

I. M?canismes de financement pour le d?veloppement des communications dans le Sud

 

Des exemples de propositions d'investigation sous ce th?me pourront inclure (mais ne sont pas limit?s ?) : Formes d'organisation pour la mise ? disposition de TICs dans le Sud ; Imp?ts sur les TICs en tant que source ?galitaire de revenus ; Soutien des r?seaux sociaux et techniques, en plus du financement initial ; Financement des TICs dans le cadre d'un partenariat global pour le d?veloppement.

 

II. Gouvernement d'Internet et politiques globales des TICs

 

Des exemples de propositions d'investigations sous ce th?me pourraient inclure (mais ne sont pas limit?s ?) : Formes institutionnelles pour la d?mocratisation d'Internet ; Participation de la soci?t? civile du Sud dans la d?finition des politiques de TICs ; Impacts sociaux et d?finition de standards technologiques ; Protection des droits de l'homme et nouveaux TICs.

 

III. Sujets laiss?s de c?t? dans l'agenda du SMSI

 

Des exemples de propositions d'investigations sous ce th?me pourraient inclure (mais ne sont pas limit?s ?) : Liaison de l'agenda du WSIS avec d' autres processus multilat?raux ; L'impact des droits de propri?t? intellectuelle dans le d?veloppement des communications internationales; Une perspective de la soci?t? civile du Sud sur le concept de TICs pour le D?veloppement Humain ; M?canismes efficaces pour surmonter les barri?res non physiques ? l'acc?s (censure, politiques commerciales, patentes et prix); Politiques de TICs pour la r?duction de la pauvret?, la promotion de la sant? et l'aide ? l'environnement; Politiques de TICs pour la protection des connaissances traditionnelles ; Paradigmes d'?ducation en TICs depuis une perspective multiculturelle.

 

Les chercheurs ayant de l'exp?rience dans ces sujets doivent envoyer leur CV, un texte d'exemple et un paragraphe descriptif sur leur proposition de recherche, par courrier ?lectronique, avant le 30 juillet 2004 ? : Pablo Accuosto - wsis2@item.org.uy

 

Les participants recevront des honoraires pour leur participation dans le projet.

 

Le projet est particuli?rement int?ress? par la participation de chercheurs du Sud.

 

Pour plus d'information sur le projet, veuillez visiter la page http://wsispapers.choike.org/

Pour plus d'information sur l'Institut du Tiers-Monde (ITeM), veuillez visiter http://item.org.uy/ 

 

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Anuncio - Proyecto de investigaci?n - Art?culos para la segunda etapa de la CMSI

 

* Distribuir, por favor *

 

El Instituto del Tercer Mundo (ITeM) busca acad?micos y activistas para participar en un proyecto de investigaci?n con el objetivo de contribuir con insumos a la segunda fase de la Cumbre Mundial sobre la Sociedad de la Informaci?n (CMSI).

 

Se encargar? una serie de investigaciones y a partir de los resultados de ?stas se producir?n documentos (briefing y position papers) que se distribuir?n entre los delegados gubernamentales de pa?ses del Sur, as? como entre los integrantes de los grupos de trabajo que participen en las definiciones de pol?ticas en esta etapa de la Cumbre. Estos documentos aportar?n informaci?n a quienes est?n en posici?n de impulsar estas pol?ticas sobre sus consecuencias y posibles impactos en los pa?ses del Sur. 

 

Durante el proceso preparatorio de la fase de T?nez de la CMSI se desarrollar?n eventos (talleres y/o mesas redondas), con el objetivo de difundir los resultados de las investigaciones (finalizadas o en curso) entre los distintos actores involucrados en las discusiones que se procesen en esta fase de la CMSI. Algunos autores de las investigaciones pueden ser invitados a presentar sus contribuciones en dichos eventos.

 

El proyecto est? abierto a recibir propuestas de investigaci?n enfocadas en el menos uno de los siguientes temas:

 

I. Mecanismos de financiamiento para el desarrollo de las comunicaciones en el Sur

 

Ejemplos de propuestas de investigaci?n bajo este tema podr?an incluir (aunque no est?n limitadas a): Formas organizativas para la provisi?n de TICs en el Sur; Impuestos a las TICs como una fuente igualitaria de recursos; Sostenibilidad de las redes sociales y t?cnicas, m?s all? del financiamiento inicial; Financiamiento de las TICs en el marco de un pacto global para el desarrollo. Financiamiento para el desarrollo de infraestructuras de TICs en lugares sin servicios b?sicos de telecomunicaciones.

 

II. Gobernanza de Internet y pol?ticas globales de TICs

 

Ejemplos de propuestas de investigaci?n bajo este tema podr?an incluir (aunque no est?n limitadas a): Formas organizativas para la democratizaci?n de Internet; Involucramiento de la sociedad civil del Sur en la definici?n de pol?ticas de TICs; Impactos sociales y la definici?n de est?ndares tecnol?gicos; Protecci?n de los derechos humanos y las nuevas TICs.

 

III. Temas pendientes en la agenda de la CMSI

 

Ejemplos de propuestas de investigaci?n bajo este tema podr?an incluir (aunque no est?n limitadas a): Vincular la agenda de la CMSI a otros procesos multilaterales; El impacto de los derechos de propiedad intelectual en el desarrollo de las comunicaciones globales; Una perspectiva desde la sociedad civil del Sur del concepto de Desarrollo Humano; Mecanismos efectivos para superar las barreras no f?sicas al acceso (censura, pol?ticas comerciales, patentes y precios); Pol?ticas de TICs para la reducci?n de la pobreza, la promoci?n de la salud y la sostenibilidad ambiental; Pol?ticas de TICs para la protecci?n de los conocimientos tradicionales; Paradigmas de educaci?n en TICs desde una perspectiva multicultural.

 

Los investigadores con experiencia en estos temas deben enviar su CV, un texto de ejemplo y un p?rrafo descriptivo sobre su propuesta de investigaci?n, a trav?s de correo electr?nico, antes del 30 de julio de 2004 a: Pablo Accuosto - wsis2@item.org.uy

 

Los participantes recibir?n un honorario por su participaci?n en el proyecto. 

 

El proyecto est? particularmente interesado en la participaci?n de investigadores del Sur.

 

 

Por m?s informaci?n sobre el proyecto, por favor dirigirse a http://wsispapers.choike.org/

Por m?s informaci?n sobre el Instituto del Tercer Mundo (ITeM), por favor dirigirse a http://www.item.org.uy/ 
 

 
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From mtintern at sangonet.org.za  Tue Jul 20 09:11:35 2004
From: mtintern at sangonet.org.za (Refilwe)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] [WSIS THETHA] First Annual SANGONeT "ICTs and Civil Society" Conference
Message-ID: <NGBBIBPAELKLKCDPLFHJAEDMDHAA.mtintern@sangonet.org.za>

FIRST ANNOUNCEMENT

First Annual SANGONeT "ICTs and Civil Society" Conference

2-4 March 2005

Johannesburg, South Africa

The Southern African NGO Network (SANGONeT) is pleased to
announce that it will be organising its first annual "ICTs and Civil
Society" conference that is to take place from 2-4 March 2005 in
Johannesburg, South Africa.

Although many local conferences these days focus on ICT-related
issues, very little dedicated attention is given to the relevance of
ICTs to the civil society organisation (CSO) sector.

During the last few years the Southern African CSO sector has
experienced dramatic changes. The funding and related crises
experienced by CSOs in the early 1990s have been well
documented. Many CSOs were forced to close down because of a
lack of funding and related organisational problems.

As a result, the critical challenge facing many CSOs today relates
to their capacity to make a fundamental contribution to finding
longterm and sustainable solutions to Southern Africa's
development problems. 

The strengthening of CSOs' capacity for service delivery
increasingly requires that attention be given to their ability to use,
manage and implement ICTs. Although many Southern African
CSOs are already active users of ICTs, much more needs to be
done to build their capacity.

CSOs face numerous challenges in keeping up with rapidly
changing ICT developments. These include developing internal
organisational and educational processes, making technology
investments, developing and implementing electronic
communication strategies, and staying abreast of a wide range of
ICT policy issues impacting on the sector.

The conference will therefore focus specifically on these ICT
challenges facing the CSO sector, highlighting and promoting
practical benefits, opportunities and lessons learned to date. It will
provide an opportunity to both CSOs that are ICT-enabled, as well
as those organisations which are considering introducting ICT
solutions to their work, to discuss critical issues of common
concern and learn from one another's experiences.

Specific attention will also be given to the activities and
initiatives of various local and international CSOs involved in ICT
issues.

The conference will also include an exhibition where CSOs, as
well as a wide range of ICT service providers, will be able to
showcase their products and services.

This conference is aimed at leadership staff and technical
employees in CSOs, and individuals who work with these
organisations, including donor agencies, the private sector
and the government. 

For more information, or to suggest specific issues and topics to be
covered at the conference, please contact Refilwe Rakhibane at
SANGONeT:

Tel: (011) 403-4935 / Fax: (011) 403-0130
E-mail: mtintern@sangonet.org.za

Additional information on the conference will also be posted on the
SANGONeT website - www.sangonet.org.za - during the next few
weeks.

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SANGONeT has been providing ICT networking, information and
training services to Southern African CSOs since 1987. Its mission
is to be a facilitator in the effective and empowering use of
information communication technology (ICT) tools by development
and social justice actors in Southern Africa. 

SANGONeT exists with the purpose of sharing information, building
capacity, linking people and organisations through the use of ICTs
in Southern Africa.

SANGONeT's vision is a just, equitable and prosperous Southern
African society, where the impact and contribution of sustainable
development programmes are supported by appropriate, relevant
and affordable ICT solutions.

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From mh at wacc.org.uk  Fri Jul 23 14:33:48 2004
From: mh at wacc.org.uk (Myriam Horngren)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] SHIN in the Media: Libel Case September 06, 2004
Message-ID: <7414FB05C3419C42931F0911BE79061D2975E1@wacc-commserver.wacc.org.uk>

Dear all,

This letter was sent out this morning. Please feel free to distribute
widely to your networks and publish on your websites or send similar
emails and faxes.

This letter was sent out to the Prime Minister's offices, the Thai Rack
Thai Party, the Human Rights Commissioner for Thailand and the UN
Special Rapporteur on Human Rights in Geneva (cc'd in email below).

For your information I have also copied at the end of this email some
background information on the case as published originally by Asia Human
Rights Watch.

The case will start up again on 6th September 2004 when bail will be
set.

Thank you

Myriam Horngren
WACC Network and Advocacy Coordinator (CRIS)
357 Kennington Lane
London SE11 5QY
United Kingdom
Tel: 44 (0) 207 582 9139
Fax: 44 (0) 207 735 0340
web: www.crisinfo.org 
email: mh@wacc.org.uk


-----Original Message-----
From: Myriam Horngren
Sent: 23 July 2004 12:07
To: 'investor@shincorp.com'
Cc: 'thaksin@thaigov.go.th'; 'govspkman@mozart.inet.co.th';
'sudarat@sudarat.com'; 'spokesman@thairakthai.or.th';
'commission@nhrc.or.th'
Subject: SHIN in the Media: Libel Case September 06, 2004



Mr Bonklee Plangsiri
Chairman of the Group Executive Committee
SHIN Corporation Plc
414 Phaholyothin Road
Samsennai, Phayathai
Bangkok 10400
Thailand


Dear Mr Plangsiri,

The World Association for Christian Communication is a global
association comprising more than 900 communication institutions and
communication professionals in more than 90 countries.

As an association concerned with freedom of speech and the strengthening
of democratic institutions in Thailand and the whole world, we strongly
urge you to drop the libel suit filed against Ms Supinya Klangnarong,
Secretary General of the Campaign for Popular Media Reform.

In Ms Klangnarong's case, support for media reform is built upon the
noble principles expressed in the new Constitution of Thailand
introduced in 1997, which set in place provisions for the
democratisation of the media. The libel suit pursued by the SHIN
Corporation goes against these provisions as it aims to punish the
defendant for simply voicing an opinion on the relationship between the
corporation and the current Thai government. This goes against the basic
foundation of freedom of expression enshrined in Article 19 of the
United Nations Human Rights Charter.

SHIN Corporation's decision to pursue the case against Ms Klangnarong
has serious implications not only for Ms Klangnarong personally, but
also for Thailand's standing in the community of nations.

Therefore we, the World Association for Christian Communication,
strongly urge the SHIN Corp. to drop the suit against Ms Supinya
Klangnarong.

Yours sincerely,
Dr Musimbi Kanyoro	Rev Dr Randy Naylor
President			General Secretary




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FURTHER INFORMATION: Information released originally by Asia Human
Rights Watch:
The television and radio media in Thailand have been under a government
and military monopoly since their introduction to the country. Although
the new Constitution of Thailand introduced in 1997 set in place
provisions for the democratization of these media, these provisions have
not been realized. The only television station not controlled by the
government or military is owned by Shin Corp. There is what the CPMR has
identified as a new media monopoly emerging between the commercial and
government sectors, as media concessions are issued to Shin Corp and
other businesses close to senior politicians, thereby defeating the
purpose of the constitutional reforms. Shin Corp in particular has
totally dominated all sectors of the commercial media in Thailand, as it
owns 24 companies running telecommunications, television, radio,
internet, satellite and other communications throughout the country, and
even into neighbouring Cambodia, Laos and Burma. The result is that
outside a limited number of newspapers and low distribution journals,
there remains virtually no independent media in Thailand, thereby
greatly damaging the prospects for opening discussion on serious
violations of human rights and other concerns currently faced by the
people there. In particular, there are no avenues for the expression of
popular concerns from the local level in Thailand. 

Ms Supinya set up the CPMR (Campaign for Popular Media Reform) to
advocate media reform and counter these trends on the basis of
provisions in the new Constitution intended to liberalise and
democratize electronic media in Thailand. 

THE LIBEL CASE:
On 16 July 2003, the Thai Post newspaper published an article in which
Ms Supinya Klangnarong, Secretary General of CPMR, observed that the
profits of Shin Corp had increased enormously since its founder, Mr
Thaksin Shinawatra, had become Prime Minister of Thailand. In the
article, Ms Supinya pointed out that since Mr Thaksin founded his Thai
Rak Thai political party five years earlier, his company's profits had
increased four times over, and were projected to increase many times
still. She gave details-based upon sound research-of how Mr Thaksin had
used the political system to manipulate business in favour of Shin Corp.
She also noted that Shin Corp's business interests were all in public
communications-mobile phones, satellite transmissions and television-and
therefore matters over which there should be public debate as matters of
national concern. Additionally, she pointed out that the profits from
Shin Corp were being channelled back into the Thai Rak Thai company,
effectively integrating Mr Thaksin's political and commercial interests
into a single highly powerful enterprise. 

After the report was released, Shin Corp filed a libel suit for about
ten million Thai Baht (US2,000). The case has been in preliminary
hearings since 1 December 2003, and the court has now decided, on 22
June 2004, that the case can proceed to full court. BAIL FOR MS SUPINYA
WILL BE SET BY THE COURT ON 6TH SEPTEMBER 2004.

For other reports on the case and background, see the following sites:
ABC (Australia) News:
http://www.abcnews.net.au/asiapacific/location/asia/GAPLocAsiaStories_10
06728.htm 
Asia Media: http://www.asiamedia.ucla.edu/article.asp?parentid=5363 
Committee to Protect Journalists:
http://www.cpj.org/attacks03/asia03/thai.html 
CorpWatch: http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=9333 
WACC: http://www.wacc.org.uk/modules.php?name=News&file=print&sid=1412
Herald Tribune: http://www.iht.com/ihtsearch.php?key=BANGKOK 

Myriam Horngren
WACC Network and Advocacy Coordinator (CRIS)
357 Kennington Lane
London SE11 5QY
United Kingdom
Tel: 44 (0) 207 582 9139
Fax: 44 (0) 207 735 0340
web: www.crisinfo.org 
email: mh@wacc.org.uk

From adavidziuk at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 26 05:14:34 2004
From: adavidziuk at yahoo.com (alejandra davidziuk)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Digest - CRIS Campaign
Message-ID: <20040726041434.80698.qmail@web12003.mail.yahoo.com>

DIGEST – CRIS CAMPAIGN

WACC URGE TO DROP THE LIBEL SUIT FILED AGAINST MS
KLANGNARONG
Concerned with freedom of speech and the strengthening
of democratic institutions in Thailand, WACC has sent
out the following letter to the Prime Minister's
offices, the Thai Rack Thai Party, the Human Rights
Commissioner for Thailand and the UN Special
Rapporteur on Human Rights in Geneva in order to
strongly urge the SHIN Corp. to drop the libel suit
filed against Ms Supinya Klangnarong, Secretary
General of the Campaign for Popular Media Reform. The
case will start up again on 6th September 2004 when
bail will be set. 
http://www.crisinfo.org/content/view/full/357/

DIARIO DE NUESTROSMEDIOS 2004: MEDIOS COMUNITARIOS
PARA DEMOCRATIZAR LA SOCIEDAD
 [Por Cesáreo Gálvez – CRIS Campaign] 24/7/2004
Dando respuesta a la pregunta a favor de los medios
comunitarios "¿Cómo podemos utilizar la historia de
impacto de los movimientos de base para favorecer
mejores políticas y más a poyo?", culminó el panel
plenario dentro del marco OURMedia IV en Porto Alegre,
Brasil, un mosaico de voces y puntos de vista
diferentes coincidieron en resaltan la importancia de
estos medios para democratizar la sociedad.
http://www.crisinfo.org/content/view/full/361/

OURMEDIA 2004 DAIRY: TRANSNATIONAL ADVOCACY ON MEDIA
AND ICT POLICY 
 [By Mavic Cabrera-Balleza - Isis International-Manila
& AMARC-Women’s International Network] 7-24-2004
One of the plenary workshops in the ongoing Our Media
Conference in Porto Alegre, Brazil focused on the
topic “Transnational advocacy on media and ICT
policy.” This topic was of particular interest to
members of the CRIS network and other civil society
organisations who took an active part in the Geneva
phase of the World Summit on the Information Society
(WSIS).
http://www.crisinfo.org/content/view/full/362/

DIARIO DE NUESTROSMEDIOS 2004: PORQUE LAS POLÍTICAS
PÚBLICAS IMPORTAN 
 [Por Néstor Busso - ALER Argentina] 24/7/2004
La evidente conclusión del Panel Plenario Nro. 3,
realizado en la mañana de hoy, es que las Políticas
públicas de Comunicación son importantes para
garantizar los Derechos a La omunicación de las y los
ciudadanas/os. La constatación inicial es que no hay
políticas y que esa falta de políticas es
paradójicamente la principal política.
http://www.crisinfo.org/content/view/full/360/

OURMEDIA 2004 DAIRY: THE FIRST DAY OF THE CONFERENCE
IN PORTO ALEGRE 
 [By Astrid Elena Villegas - CRIS Colombia] 7/23/2004
Today, the first day of the OurMedia IV Conference,
offered an opportunity to visit some popular
communications projects in Porto Alegre.
http://www.crisinfo.org/content/view/full/359/

DIARIO DE NUESTROSMEDIOS 2004: PRIMER DÍA DE LA
CONFERENCIA EN PORTO ALEGRE 
[Por Astrid Elena Villegas - CRIS Colombia] 23/7/2004
Durante su primer día, la IV Conferencia de
NUESTROSMedios nos ofreció la oportunidad de visitar
algunos proyectos de comunicación popular en Porto
Alegre.
http://www.crisinfo.org/content/view/full/358/

AMARC ANNONCE LA DIFFUSION MONDIALE DE SA COUVERTURE
DU PREMIER FORUM SOCIAL DES AMÉRIQUES
Le Secrétariat International de l’Association mondiale
des radios diffuseurs communautaires a annoncé
aujourd’hui la diffusion mondiale de sa couverture du
premier Forum Social des Amériques (FSA) qui se
teindra à Quito en Équateur du 25 au 30 juillet. Ce
premier FSA aidera à préciser les propositions des
organisations de la société civile latino-américaine
en vue du Forum social mondial de Porto Alegre en 
Janvier 2005.
http://www.crisinfo.org/content/view/full/356/

AMARC DIFUNDE MUNDIALMENTE SU COBERTURA DEL PRIMER
FORO SOCIAL DE LAS AMÉRICAS
El Secretariado Internacional de la Asociación Mundial
de Radios Comunitarias, AMARC, anunció hoy la difusión
mundial de la cobertura del Primer Foro Social de las
Américas que se realizará del 25 al 30 de julio en
Quito Ecuador. Este Foro permitirá precisar las
propuestas de la sociedad civil latinoamericana en
preparación del Foro Social Mundial de Porto Alegre en
enero de 2005. 
http://www.crisinfo.org/content/view/full/355/

AMARC ANNOUNCES WORLD BROADCAST OF ITS COVERAGE OF THE
FIRST AMERICAS SOCIAL FORUM
The International Secretariat of the World Association
of Community Radio Broadcasters, AMARC announced today
the world broadcast of its coverage of the First
Americas Social Forum (ASF) to be held in Quito,
Ecuador, from July 25-30. This First Americas Social
Forum will help Latin American Civil Society
Organizations to specify their proposals for the World
Social Forum in Porto Alegre next January, 2005. 
http://www.crisinfo.org/content/view/full/354/

¿QUIERE PARTICIPAR? FIRME LA CARTA DE CRIS
Nuestra visión de la Sociedad de la Información se
fundamenta en el Derecho a Comunicar como un medio de
acrecentar los derechos humanos y fortalecer la vida
social, económica y cultural de las personas y las
comunidades. Para lograrlo, resulta fundamental que
las organizaciones de la sociedad civil se unan para
cooperar en la construcción de una sociedad de la
información basada en principios de transparencia,
diversidad, participación, justicia social y
económica, e inspiradas por la equidad de género y las
perspectivas culturales y regionales. Lo invitamos a
conocer más sobre la Campaña de CRIS y a participar
firmando la Carta de CRIS: 
http://scripts.planetgrey.org/cris/sign_charter_form.html
http://www.crisinfo.org/content/view/full/97/ 

LA CHARTE DE CRIS
Notre vision de la «société de l’information» est
basée sur le droit de communiquer qui est considéré
comme un moyen pour étendre les droits de l’homme et
améliorer la vie sociale, économique et culturelle des
personnes et des communautés. Pour cela, il est
essentiel que les organisations de la société civile
se réunissent afin d’aider à la construction d’une
société de l’information basée sur les principes de
transparence, de diversité, de participation et de
justice économique et sociale et inspirée par une
approche équitable du rapport des sexes, de la culture
et des aspects régionaux.
http://scripts.planetgrey.org/cris/sign_charter_form.html
http://www.crisinfo.org/content/view/full/95/

WOULD YOU LIKE TO GET INVOLVED? ENDORSE THE CRIS
CHARTER
Our vision of the 'Information Society' is grounded in
the Right to Communicate, as a means to enhance human
rights and to strengthen the social, economic and
cultural lives of people and communities. Crucial to
this is that civil society organisations come together
to help build an information society based on
principles of transparency, diversity, participation
and social and economic justice, and inspired by
equitable gender, cultural and regional perspectives.
We invite you to read more about CRIS Campaign and get
involved endorsing the CRIS Chapter:
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From karenb at gn.apc.org  Mon Jul 26 11:57:52 2004
From: karenb at gn.apc.org (karen banks)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] next UN ICT Task Force Meeting in
  Berlin: 19./20 November
In-Reply-To: <410296C4.1ECDFDD3@sfb597.uni-bremen.de>
References: <410296C4.1ECDFDD3@sfb597.uni-bremen.de>
Message-ID: <6.1.1.1.0.20040726115547.0420e998@pop.gn.apc.org>

hi ralf

One problem would be the UNESCO hosted WSIS meeting on Africa and Media in 
morocco, which many african delegates i think will attend..

November 22-24, WSIS Role and Place of Media in the Information Society in 
Africa and the Arab States Marrakech, Morocco 
[http://www.orbicom.uqam.ca/index_en.html]

APC would certainly plan to be represented in the Berlin meeting.

karen


At 18:05 24/07/2004, Ralf Bendrath wrote:
>The Task Force will also have a global open forum again, this time
>around financing/enabling environment.
>There is some discussion offlist at the moment (as one outcome ofthe
>recent public voice conference call) to have a global WSIS civil society
>meeting around this event. What do people think about it?
>
>Best, Ralf



From ladymurrugarra at yahoo.es  Mon Jul 26 15:07:40 2004
From: ladymurrugarra at yahoo.es (=?iso-8859-1?q?Lady=20Murrugarra?=)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Currently, we're planning to present information on Gender and F/OSS at conferences in Peru
In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.0.20040726115547.0420e998@pop.gn.apc.org>
Message-ID: <20040726140740.86365.qmail@web11807.mail.yahoo.com>


WOWEM NEWS         
http://www.wowem.org


July 25, 2004        
We're been invited to write an article for I4D Magazine
Currently, we're planning to present information on Gender and F/OSS at conferences in Peru, 
Chile, and the UK.  More information on these events will be available in the near future.

UPDATED on the site:  Biographies!

July 7, 2004
Gender Equity and Free and Open Source Software
Call for Chapter Submissions of a New Book, including a new  FAQ at the bottom of the page.


Regards,



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From: thetha at sangonet.org.za (Refilwe)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] [WSIS THETHA] THETHA - KwaZulu-Natal Province
Message-ID: <NGBBIBPAELKLKCDPLFHJMEODDHAA.thetha@sangonet.org.za>

THETHA - THE SANGONeT ICT DISCUSSION FORUM

Sixth Provincial Thetha - KwaZulu-Natal Province

16 August 2004

In March 2003 the Southern African NGO Network (SANGONeT) launched Thetha:
The SANGONeT ICT Discussion Forum. This initiative aims to provide civil
society organisations (CSOs) with an opportunity to discuss information
communication technology (ICT) issues of common concern and to learn from
one another's experiences.

The forums focus specifically on the ICT challenges facing the CSO sector,
highlighting and promoting practical benefits, opportunities and lessons
learned to date.

Given the success and positive feedback received in response to previous
Thetha forums, SANGONeT will be co-hosting its sixth provincial Thetha on
Monday, 16 August 2004, in the KwaZulu-Natal province. The forum is
organised in conjunction with the National Development Agency (NDA) and
SANGOCO.

Participants will be introduced to various inputs from government, business
and the CSO sector, highlighting various ICT policy and development issues.

Specific attention will also be given to the activities and initiatives of
various CSOs involved in ICT issues.

SANGONeT has been providing networking, information and training services to
Southern African CSOs since its inception in 1987.

SANGONeT's mission is to be a facilitator in the effective and empowering
use of ICTs by development and social justice actors in Africa.

If you are interested in participating in the KwaZulu-Natal Thetha, please
contact Refilwe Rakhibane at SANGONeT:

Tel: (011) 403-4935 / E-mail: thetha@sangonet.org.za

Participation in the Thetha is free of charge.

For more information on Thetha - The SANGONeT ICT Discussion Forum, please
visit the SANGONeT website http://www.sangonet.org.za

"Come Thetha with us"


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From rguerra at lists.privaterra.org  Wed Jul 28 15:59:29 2004
From: rguerra at lists.privaterra.org (Robert Guerra)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] FYI : incommunicado.info - site is up and ready to blog
Message-ID: <p06200619bd2d6fc4c4b0@[10.242.60.117]>

>From: "s.zehle" <s.zehle@kein.org>
>To: "incom" <incom-l@incommunicado.info>
>Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:34:25 +0200
>X-Priority: 3
>X-KEIN.ORG-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean
>Subject: <incom> incommunicado.info - site is up and ready to blog
>Sender: incom-l-bounces@incommunicado.info
>X-KEIN.ORG-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more 
>information
>Status:??
>
>Dear All,
>
>a Drupal-based site has finally been put up, very basic-yet-functional but
>with lots of room for, well, development. So please check it out at
>http://www.incommunicado.info.
>
>Right now, the setup is very basic: once you register, you can comment or
>add to your own blog. Via a simple drop-down menu, each blog entry has to be
>attributed to one of the topic areas so it can be included in the
>appropriate listing. As of now, these are: ICT for Development, WSIS, NGOs
>and Civil Society, ICT and Environment, and Post-Development as well as
>Calls & Events (these go back to the original incommunicado-call, see site
>for brief descriptions).
>
>The search function is not yet available but will be soon, same with RSS
>feeds. Please suggest sites whose feeds you think should be available from
>the incom site.
>
>I started a blog in part to test the site, not to swamp you with content.
>But these are the kinds of references I would have included in an email
>digest, and instead of sending out such a digest, I will simply continue to
>add to
>the  blog. I hope that you will not only find it useful but share
>some of your own research, thoughts, and writing as well.
>
>A site like this is,
>after all, also an attempt to implement ideas of a
>research commons or a collective, open editorial process in a way that is
>both practical and open to change. Incommunicado is a very very modest
>project, but at a time when everyone
>worries about expanding IPR regimes and
>the 'illegal' sharing of content, it seems all the more important to me to
>contribute to an emerging commons-based research infrastructure.
>
>Soenke
>
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>incom-l@incommunicado.info
>http://mail.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/incom-l


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From ljeffrey at ecommons.net  Wed Jul 28 17:07:52 2004
From: ljeffrey at ecommons.net (Liss Jeffrey)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] FYI : incommunicado.info - site is up
  and ready to blog
In-Reply-To: <p06200619bd2d6fc4c4b0@[10.242.60.117]>
References: <p06200619bd2d6fc4c4b0@[10.242.60.117]>
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20040728114255.03579cb0@mail.bydesign-elab.net>

The Canadian civil society site (up since last December) is a drupal based 
site. It is very easy to use.
You can add items and news reports.

We have rss and are working on taxonomy, as drupal search is not so great. 
(Ours does work, but even drupal developers admit it is not ideal.)
http://wsis.ecommons.ca
http://smsi.agora-electronique.ca

This is collaborative e-commons infrastructure. Please link to it, as we 
have done to everyone else we could locate.
We find that the trick is getting people to actually collaborate, not 
building the platforms and channels.
But that may be because we design and build in this area.

Cheers,
Liss Jeffrey
eCommons/agora
www.ecommons.net




>>Dear All,
>>
>>a Drupal-based site has finally been put up, very basic-yet-functional but
>>with lots of room for, well, development. So please check it out at
>>http://www.incommunicado.info.
>>
>>Right now, the setup is very basic: once you register, you can comment or
>>add to your own blog. Via a simple drop-down menu, each blog entry has to be
>>attributed to one of the topic areas so it can be included in the
>>appropriate listing. As of now, these are: ICT for Development, WSIS, NGOs
>>and Civil Society, ICT and Environment, and Post-Development as well as
>>Calls & Events (these go back to the original incommunicado-call, see site
>>for brief descriptions).
>>
>>The search function is not yet available but will be soon, same with RSS
>>feeds. Please suggest sites whose feeds you think should be available from
>>the incom site.
>>
>>I started a blog in part to test the site, not to swamp you with content.
>>But these are the kinds of references I would have included in an email
>>digest, and instead of sending out such a digest, I will simply continue to
>>add to
>>the  blog. I hope that you will not only find it useful but share
>>some of your own research, thoughts, and writing as well.
>>
>>A site like this is,
>>after all, also an attempt to implement ideas of a
>>research commons or a collective, open editorial process in a way that is
>>both practical and open to change. Incommunicado is a very very modest
>>project, but at a time when everyone
>>worries about expanding IPR regimes and
>>the 'illegal' sharing of content, it seems all the more important to me to
>>contribute to an emerging commons-based research infrastructure.
>>
>>Soenke
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>incom-l mailing list
>>incom-l@incommunicado.info
>>http://mail.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/incom-l
>
>
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From ACarvin at edc.org  Wed Jul 28 20:57:34 2004
From: ACarvin at edc.org (Andy Carvin)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] blogging from the DNC in Boston
Message-ID: <OF15C9A2F2.A5506CDE-ON85256EDF.006DA3AA-85256EDF.006DA45B@edc.org>




Hi everyone,

Sorry for the off-topic post, but I thought some of you might be interested
in this... I'm at the Democratic National Convention in Boston and I've
just posted a series of entries on my blog covering today's anti-torture
rally at Copley Square, headlined by former presidential candidate Dennis
Kucinich. Kucinich gave a fiery speech as usual, and several protestors got
into a shouting match with a pair of pro-Bush activists.

Among the various posts on my site are two audio blogs, a description of
the rally and a photo gallery of pictures taken on my mobile phone. Below
are links to the blog itself, the photo gallery and the individual audio
blogs.

Blog homepage: http://edwebproject.org/andy/blog/

Protest photos: http://edwebproject.org/dnc2004/abuseprotest.html

Audio blog #1 (start of the rally):
http://www.audlink.com/mailbox/1587/0407281217.mp3

Audio blog #2 (follwing the Kucinich speech):
http://www.audlink.com/mailbox/1587/0407281319.mp3

Please feel free to redistribute if you wish.

thanks,
ac

-------------------------------------------------
Andy Carvin
Program Director
EDC Center for Media & Community
acarvin @ edc . org

Andy Carvin's Waste of Bandwidth:
http://www.edwebproject.org/andy/blog/
-------------------------------------------------


From ralf.bendrath at sfb597.uni-bremen.de  Wed Jul 28 23:30:01 2004
From: ralf.bendrath at sfb597.uni-bremen.de (Ralf Bendrath)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] EU Commission Proposes Strategy for WSIS II
Message-ID: <410828E9.6953A9C2@sfb597.uni-bremen.de>

new on http://www.worldsummit2005.org:

EU Commission Proposes Strategy for WSIS II
Neoliberal agenda and techno-optimism prevailing

28 July 2004. The Commission of the European Union has recently issued a
communication on the WSIS that is a major indicator of the EU's strategy
for the second phase of the summit after PrepCom1 took place in Tunisia
in June. The document, titled "Towards a Global Partnership in the
Information Society", mainly confirms the neoliberal agenda of the EU.
More... | The EU document (doc)

From ACarvin at edc.org  Thu Jul 29 21:26:19 2004
From: ACarvin at edc.org (Andy Carvin)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] More multimedia blogging from the DNC in Boston
Message-ID: <OF931FE58A.548640F0-ON85256EE0.007045F5-85256EE0.00704617@edc.org>




Hi everyone,

I've added a bunch of new entries to my blog covering my lunchtime walk
through Boston today from the Fleet Center to Copley Square. Over the
course of an hour I toured the official "Free Speech Zone" set up for
protestors, spotted Hillary Clinton at Faneuil Hall, visited a rather grim,
graphic Falun Gong protest in Boston Common (let the viewer beware before
checking out the pictures), and got caught in an anarchist march through
Back Bay. I've posted a photo gallery, an audio blog from the march (the
recording is rather chaotic since I'm weaving through anarchists and
policemen as I talk), and half a dozen video clips, mostly of the
anarchists.

http://www.edwebproject.org/andy/blog/

Good thing this is the last day of the DNC because I don't think I could
keep this up much longer without quitting my day job. :-)

-------------------------------------------------
Andy Carvin
Program Director
EDC Center for Media & Community
acarvin @ edc . org
http://www.digitaldividenetwork.org
http://www.edwebproject.org/andy/blog/
-------------------------------------------------


From beja2310 at yahoo.fr  Fri Jul 30 19:38:43 2004
From: beja2310 at yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?amel=20bejaoui?=)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Andy's Tunisia photo galleries: a work in progress
In-Reply-To: <OF3CC11862.FA093290-ON85256EC4.007438FE-85256EC4.00743967@edc.org>
Message-ID: <20040730183843.32854.qmail@web52506.mail.yahoo.com>

Cher Andy,
 
Quand j'ai ouvert mon courrier et j'ai vu un e-mail de WSIS CS-Plenary, je pensais trouver des informations utiles au processus qui concerne l'implication des militants de la soci?t? civile "autonome" -pr?cision n?cessaire chez nous"- ou des informations sur certains r?sultats des travaus des groupes et caucus, pour la r?alisation d'une vraie soci?t? de l'information dont r?vent moults peuples.
H?las je trouve de la publicit?. Sur un pays qui dominent, censure, bafoue, etc.... l'Information elle-m?me.
Mon message ne comportera pas de commentaires, mais de la d?solation.
 
Regrets
 
Amel Bejaoui.
 
Charg?e des Relations Ext?rieures
du Comit? constitutif
du Syndicat des Journalistes Tunisiens (S.J.T) INDEPENDANT
 

Andy Carvin <ACarvin@edc.org> wrote:




en/fr/es

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to share some of the photo galleries I'm working from last
week in Tunisia. I still have to label each of the photos and create a
homepage for all of it, but the individual photo galleries can be viewed
right now. I also have a multimedia folder with assorted video clips and
Quicktime VR files. Below are the links to each gallery.

Je voudrais partager certaines des galeries de photo que je cr?e pour mon
voyage en Tunisie. Je dois toujours marquer chacune des photos et cr?er un
homepage pour tout, mais les diff?rentes galeries de photo peuvent ?tre
regard?es maintenant. J'ai ?galement une chemise de multim?dia avec les
agrafes et les dossiers visuels assortis de Quicktime VR. Au-dessous de
sont les liens ? chaque galerie.

Quisiera compartir algunas de las galer?as de la foto que estoy creando
para mi viaje a T?nez. Todav?a necesito etiquetar cada uno de las fotos y
crear un homepage para todo, pero las galer?as individuales de la foto se
pueden ahora ver. Tambi?n tengo una carpeta de los multimedia con los clips
y los archivos video clasificados de Quicktime VR. Debajo est?n los
acoplamientos a cada galer?a.
Old Hammamet
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/hammamet.html

Yasmine Hammamet
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/yasmine.html

Photos from around the Prepcom
(includes a couple of Rik's pictures he took of me)
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/prepcom1.html

Cafe Sidi Bou Hdid, Old Hammet
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/cafe.html

CS reps gathering at the SalsaTec Cafe
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/salsatec.html

Tunis
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/tunis.html

Carthage
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/carthage.html

Sidi Bou Said
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/sidi.html

The Bardo Museum
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/bardo.html

Tourbet el-Bey
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/tourbet.html

Multimedia folder: AVI videos and QTVR files
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/multimedia/

I'll try to finish the website in the next couple of weeks; I'll post a
message to the list when I do.

thanks,
ac
-------------------------------------------------
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Program Director
EDC Center for Media & Community
acarvin @ edc . org
http://www.digitaldividenetwork.org
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From: ACarvin at edc.org (Andy Carvin)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Andy's Tunisia photo galleries: a work in progress
Message-ID: <OF85AA0A60.EF939B8F-ON85256EE1.006FEB3C-85256EE1.006FEBCA@edc.org>




 en/fr/es

Dear Amel,

I am sorry you find this collection of Prepcom photos and videos to be
publicity; it was solely intended as an announcement for the many members
of this list who attended the Prepcom and wished to share photos and other
media from the event. It would be a shame if people participating in the
Prepcoms produced media resources and did not share them with the group,
and I am grateful that other participants also shared their photos,
articles, etc, through this list. Please forgive me if I am
misunderstanding your message, but I do not speak French well and you did
not include a translation in English or Spanish.

Cher Amel, Je suis d?sol? vous trouvaille cette collection de photos et de
videos de Prepcom ? ?tre publicit? ; on l'a seulement pr?vu comme annonce
pour les nombreux membres de cette liste qui se sont occup?s du Prepcom et
a ?t? souhait? partager des photos et d'autres m?dias de l'?v?nement. Ce
serait une honte si les gens participant aux ressources de m?dias produites
par Prepcoms et ne les a pas partag?es avec le groupe, et je suis
reconnaissant que d'autres participants aient ?galement partag? leurs
photos, articles, etc.., par cette liste. Veuillez me pardonner si je mal
comprends votre message, mais je ne parle pas fran?ais bien et vous n'avez
pas inclus une traduction en anglais ou espagnol.

Estoy apesadumbrado usted hallazgo esta colecci?n de las fotos y de los
videos de Prepcom a ser publicidad; fue pensado solamente como aviso para
los muchos miembros de esta lista que atendieron al Prepcom y deseado para
compartir las fotos y otros medios del acontecimiento. Ser?a una verg?enza
si gente que participa en los recursos producidos Prepcoms de los medios y
no los comparti? con el grupo, y soy agradecido que otros participantes
tambi?n compartieron sus fotos, art?culos, etc, a trav?s de esta lista.
Perd?neme por favor si estoy entendiendo mal su mensaje, pero no hablo
franc?s bien y usted no incluy? una traducci?n en ingl?s o espa?ol.

-------------------------------------------------
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Program Director
EDC Center for Media & Community
acarvin @ edc . org
http://www.digitaldividenetwork.org
http://www.edwebproject.org/andy/blog/
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Cher Andy,

Quand j'ai ouvert mon courrier et j'ai vu un e-mail de WSIS CS-Plenary, je
pensais trouver des informations utiles au processus qui concerne
l'implication des militants de la soci?t? civile "autonome" -pr?cision
n?cessaire chez nous"- ou des informations sur certains r?sultats des
travaus des groupes et caucus,?pour la r?alisation d'une vraie soci?t? de
l'information dont r?vent moults peuples.
H?las je trouve de la publicit?. Sur un pays qui dominent, censure, bafoue,
etc.... l'Information elle-m?me.
Mon message ne comportera pas de commentaires, mais de la d?solation.

Regrets

Amel Bejaoui.

Charg?e des Relations Ext?rieures
du Comit? constitutif
du Syndicat des Journalistes Tunisiens (S.J.T) INDEPENDANT


Andy Carvin <ACarvin@edc.org> wrote:




en/fr/es

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to share some of the photo galleries I'm working from last
week in Tunisia. I still have to label each of the photos and create a
homepage for all of it, but the individual photo galleries can be viewed
right now. I also have a multimedia folder with assorted video clips and
Quicktime VR files. Below are the links to each gallery.

Je voudrais partager certaines des galeries de photo que je cr?e pour mon
voyage en Tunisie. Je dois toujours marquer chacune des photos et cr?er un
homepage pour tout, mais les diff?rentes galeries de photo peuvent ?tre
regard?es maintenant. J'ai ?galement une chemise de multim?dia avec les
agrafes et les dossiers visuels assortis de Quicktime VR. Au-dessous de
sont les liens ? chaque galerie.

Quisiera compartir algunas de las galer?as de la fo to que estoy creando
para mi viaje a T?nez. Todav?a necesito etiquetar cada uno de las fotos y
crear un homepage para todo, pero las galer?as individuales de la foto se
pueden ahora ver. Tambi?n tengo una carpeta de los multimedia con los clips
y los archivos video clasificados de Quicktime VR. Debajo est?n los
acoplamientos a cada galer?a.
Old Hammamet
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/hammamet.html

Yasmine Hammamet
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/yasmine.html

Photos from around the Prepcom
(includes a couple of Rik's pictures he took of me)
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/prepcom1.html

Cafe Sidi Bou Hdid, Old Hammet
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/cafe.html

CS reps gathering at the SalsaTec Cafe
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/salsatec.html

Tunis
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/tunis.html

Carthage
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/carthage.html

Sidi Bou Said
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/sidi.html

The Bardo Museum
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/bardo.html

Tourbet el-Bey
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/tourbet.html

Multimedia folder: AVI videos and QTVR files
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/multimedia/

I'll try to finish the website in the next couple of weeks; I'll post a
message to the list when I do.

thanks,
ac
-------------------------------------------------
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Program Director
EDC Center for Media & Community
acarvin @ edc . org
http://www.digitaldividenetwork.org
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From muguet at mdpi.org  Sat Jul 31 14:57:09 2004
From: muguet at mdpi.org (Dr. Francis MUGUET)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Interview with Kummer
Message-ID: <410BA535.2080607@mdpi.org>

 Hello, Bonjour, Ola

For information , pour information, para informacion :

http://www.circleid.com/article/708_0_1_0_C/

Interview with United Nations Head Secretariat of WGIG



Francis





From beja2310 at yahoo.fr  Sat Jul 31 16:35:45 2004
From: beja2310 at yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?amel=20bejaoui?=)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Andy's Tunisia photo galleries: a work in progress
In-Reply-To: <OF85AA0A60.EF939B8F-ON85256EE1.006FEB3C-85256EE1.006FEBCA@edc.org>
Message-ID: <20040731153545.26431.qmail@web52501.mail.yahoo.com>

Dear Andy,
 
I'm verry sorry dont' know english well. So I'm obliged to respond you in french because the meaning is very important. So It's important that you andrestand what exactly I mean, and in CS Plenary, I'm sure that there is somone can help you. Sorry for may bed english.
 
So. Je tiens tout d'abord ? vous assurer que je suis tr?s compr?hensive quant ? l'intention que vous aviez lors de l'envoie des images et que ma r?action est d?pourvue de toute intention conflictuelle. Je militante d?mocrate, le d?bat pour moi est la base de toute construction fructueuse. Je tiens aussi ? vous remercier vivement d'avoir fait l'effort de traduire le message en fran?ais.
Par ailleurs, mon message ?mane d'une r?action ? chaud. Oui c'est vrai. Et cela en dit long sur la r?alit? de notre v?cu. Je ne vais pas ici rentrer dans les d?tails. Ce n'est pas la litt?rature qui manque sur la situation des libert?s en Tunisie, essentiellement pour ce qui concerne la presse et la libre expression ? combien d?ficitaires.
Je voulais tout simplement attirer l'attention sur la n?cessaire pr?caution ? prendre quant au choix des informations qui doivent circuler, lors -pr?cis?ment- du processus du SMSI.
Vous savez mieux que moi les enjeux et les lobbies des Etats, gr?ce non seulement aux int?r?ts des uns et des autres qui touchent diff?rents "niveaux" gr?ce au moyens dont ils disposent -que nous n'avons pas- et gr?ce surtout ? la connivence de beaucoup d'Etats occidentaux avec leurs confr?res du Sud pour que la Soci?t? Civile demeure un DECOR d?mocratique. Sans plus.
C'est, notamment, pour cela qu'il faut ?tre plus que jamais vigilants et savoir que ce genre de photos cultive une politique sournoise install?e, par la r?cup?ration et l'instrumentalisation de ce genres d'infos qui ?manent pr?cis?ment de la S.C internationale. 
 
Croyez moi, Cher Andy, cela peut vous para?tre, "naif", peut-?tre m?me "d?bile"; mais ce ne sont pas les preuves qui manquent. D'ici on en sait des choses, et on paie le prix d'une certaine attitude "spontann?e" venant de la part de certains acteurs de la S.C du Nord. Peut ?tre ? d?faut d'une r?elle connaissancer?ciproque. Nous, nous vous connaissons, vos m?dias sont ouverts. La r?ciproque n'est -h?las- pas encore vraie.
 
Respects
Amel
 
 Andy Carvin <ACarvin@edc.org> wrote:




en/fr/es

Dear Amel,

I am sorry you find this collection of Prepcom photos and videos to be
publicity; it was solely intended as an announcement for the many members
of this list who attended the Prepcom and wished to share photos and other
media from the event. It would be a shame if people participating in the
Prepcoms produced media resources and did not share them with the group,
and I am grateful that other participants also shared their photos,
articles, etc, through this list. Please forgive me if I am
misunderstanding your message, but I do not speak French well and you did
not include a translation in English or Spanish.

Cher Amel, Je suis d?sol? vous trouvaille cette collection de photos et de
videos de Prepcom ? ?tre publicit? ; on l'a seulement pr?vu comme annonce
pour les nombreux membres de cette liste qui se sont occup?s du Prepcom et
a ?t? souhait? partager des photos et d'autres m?dias de l'?v?nement. Ce
serait une honte si les gens participant aux ressources de m?dias produites
par Prepcoms et ne les a pas partag?es avec le groupe, et je suis
reconnaissant que d'autres participants aient ?galement partag? leurs
photos, articles, etc.., par cette liste. Veuillez me pardonner si je mal
comprends votre message, mais je ne parle pas fran?ais bien et vous n'avez
pas inclus une traduction en anglais ou espagnol.

Estoy apesadumbrado usted hallazgo esta colecci?n de las fotos y de los
videos de Prepcom a ser publicidad; fue pensado solamente como aviso para
los muchos miembros de esta lista que atendieron al Prepcom y deseado para
compartir las fotos y otros medios del acontecimiento. Ser?a una verg?enza
si gente que participa en los recursos producidos Prepcoms de los medios y
no los comparti? con el grupo, y soy agradecido que otros participantes
tambi?n compartieron sus fotos, art?culos, etc, a trav?s de esta lista.
Perd?neme por favor si estoy entendiendo mal su mensaje, pero no hablo
franc?s bien y usted no incluy? una traducci?n en ingl?s o espa?ol.

-------------------------------------------------
Andy Carvin
Program Director
EDC Center for Media & Community
acarvin @ edc . org
http://www.digitaldividenetwork.org
http://www.edwebproject.org/andy/blog/
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Subject: Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Andy's Tunisia photo galleries: a
work in progress
amel bejaoui 
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07/30/2004 08:38 PM ZE2
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Cher Andy,

Quand j'ai ouvert mon courrier et j'ai vu un e-mail de WSIS CS-Plenary, je
pensais trouver des informations utiles au processus qui concerne
l'implication des militants de la soci?t? civile "autonome" -pr?cision
n?cessaire chez nous"- ou des informations sur certains r?sultats des
travaus des groupes et caucus, pour la r?alisation d'une vraie soci?t? de
l'information dont r?vent moults peuples.
H?las je trouve de la publicit?. Sur un pays qui dominent, censure, bafoue,
etc.... l'Information elle-m?me.
Mon message ne comportera pas de commentaires, mais de la d?solation.

Regrets

Amel Bejaoui.

Charg?e des Relations Ext?rieures
du Comit? constitutif
du Syndicat des Journalistes Tunisiens (S.J.T) INDEPENDANT


Andy Carvin wrote:




en/fr/es

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to share some of the photo galleries I'm working from last
week in Tunisia. I still have to label each of the photos and create a
homepage for all of it, but the individual photo galleries can be viewed
right now. I also have a multimedia folder with assorted video clips and
Quicktime VR files. Below are the links to each gallery.

Je voudrais partager certaines des galeries de photo que je cr?e pour mon
voyage en Tunisie. Je dois toujours marquer chacune des photos et cr?er un
homepage pour tout, mais les diff?rentes galeries de photo peuvent ?tre
regard?es maintenant. J'ai ?galement une chemise de multim?dia avec les
agrafes et les dossiers visuels assortis de Quicktime VR. Au-dessous de
sont les liens ? chaque galerie.

Quisiera compartir algunas de las galer?as de la fo to que estoy creando
para mi viaje a T?nez. Todav?a necesito etiquetar cada uno de las fotos y
crear un homepage para todo, pero las galer?as individuales de la foto se
pueden ahora ver. Tambi?n tengo una carpeta de los multimedia con los clips
y los archivos video clasificados de Quicktime VR. Debajo est?n los
acoplamientos a cada galer?a.
Old Hammamet
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/hammamet.html

Yasmine Hammamet
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/yasmine.html

Photos from around the Prepcom
(includes a couple of Rik's pictures he took of me)
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/prepcom1.html

Cafe Sidi Bou Hdid, Old Hammet
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/cafe.html

CS reps gathering at the SalsaTec Cafe
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/salsatec.html

Tunis
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/tunis.html

Carthage
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/carthage.html

Sidi Bou Said
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/sidi.html

The Bardo Museum
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/bardo.html

Tourbet el-Bey
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/tourbet.html

Multimedia folder: AVI videos and QTVR files
http://edwebproject.org/tunisia04/multimedia/

I'll try to finish the website in the next couple of weeks; I'll post a
message to the list when I do.

thanks,
ac
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Andy Carvin
Program Director
EDC Center for Media & Community
acarvin @ edc . org
http://www.digitaldividenetwork.org
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From beja2310 at yahoo.fr  Sat Jul 31 18:02:40 2004
From: beja2310 at yahoo.fr (=?iso-8859-1?q?amel=20bejaoui?=)
Date: Thu Jul 26 18:18:54 2007
Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Hammamet plenary - CS@WSIS
In-Reply-To: <1088806529.1974.125.camel@mac>
Message-ID: <20040731170240.52713.qmail@web52506.mail.yahoo.com>

Cher Monsieur Marco,
 
Merci de vous soucier d'une d?mocratisation effective de la pl?niaire de la C.S du SMSI. De ce fait, notre Syndicat des Journalistes Tunisiens (S.J.T) -INDEPENDANT qui inscrit son optique tout ? fait dans le sens que vous revendiquez est dispos? ? coop?rer dans ce sens.
 
Respectueusement
 
 
Pour le Comit? Constitutif 
du Syndicat des Journalistes Tunisiens (S.J.T)
Amel Bejaoui
Charg?e des Relations Ext?rieures
 
P.S : sorry I can't write in english ni in spanish

Marco Ciurcina <ciurcina@studiolegale.it> wrote:
Transparency and democratic participation.

Transparencia y participaci?n democr?tica.

Transparence et participation d?mocratique.


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(English)

One week passed since some of us lived the experience of the Hammamet
plenaries.

In my opinion there are things that are extremely important and were
left unsaid in this mailing list, but they were not in the plenaries.
Particularly, during the last plenary, the discussion (even if it was
affected by the very emotional events of the previous sessions) was very
constructive and well focused.
Almost everybody expressed the following:
- plenary and Bureau way of working lacks of transparency;
- CS@WSIS way of working lacks of democratic participation.

Then it was said that the Bureau is going to draft rules and procedures
to be discussed in this mailing list and proposed to the plenary during
the next prepcom.
This was very appreciated.

I think that the Bureau should take into serious consideration the
indications that emerged during the plenary and new draft rules and
procedures should be deeply inspired by the principals of:
1 - transparency 
2 - democratic participation.

According to this, I think that (but these are just examples):
1 - no document should be approved, and decision taken,
without being previously made available to the plenary;
2 - the central role of the plenary should be reaffirmed, against 
any attempt to "empty" its powers of decision and pre-making 
decisions somewhere else;
- people away should be allowed to partecipate in the 
decision making process (through internet).

I think that CS@WSIS has no other option that going in this direction.

Marco Ciurcina
Hipatia 


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(espanol)

Una semana pas? desde que algunos de nosotros vivieron la experiencia de
las sesiones plenarias de Hammamet.

Hay cosas que, en mi opini?n, son extremadamente importantes y que no se
dijeron lo suficiente en esta lista, pero si lo fueron en las sesiones
plenarias.
Particularmente, durante la ultima sesi?n plenaria, la discusi?n (aun si
fue afectada por los acontecimientos muy emocionales de las sesiones
anteriores) fue muy constructiva y bien enfocada.
Casi todos expresaron lo siguiente:
- el funcionamiento de las sesiones plenarias y del Bureau carece de
transparencia;
- el funcionamiento de la CS@WSIS carece de participaci?n democr?tica.

Entonces se dijo que el Bureau va a redactar un borrador de reglas y
procedimientos que se discutir?n en esta lista y que seran propuestos a
la sesi?n plenaria durante el prepcom siguiente.
Esto fue muy apreciado.

Pienso que el Bureau debe tomar en la maxima consideraci?n las
indicaciones que emergieron durante la sesi?n plenaria y el nuevo
borrador de reglas y procedimientos se debe inspirar profundamente por
los principios de:
1 - transparencia
2 - participaci?n democr?tica.

Seg?n esto, pienso que (pero ?stos son solamente ejemplos):
1 - ning?n documento o propuesta debe ser approvado sin 
previamente ser puesto a disposici?n de la sesi?n plenaria;
2 - el papel central de la sesi?n plenaria se debe reafirmar, 
contra cualquier tentativo de vaciar sus poderes de decisi?n
y de
pre-fabricar decisiones en alguna otra parte;
- la gente que no esta presente debe ser permitida de
participar en
el proceso de toma de decisi?n (a trav?s de Internet).

Pienso que CS@WSIS no tiene ninguna otra opci?n al ir en esta direcci?n.
Marco Ciurcina 
Hipatia


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(francais)

Une semaine a pass? depuis que certains de nous ont v?cu l'exp?rience
des sessions pl?ni?res d'Hammamet.

Il y a des choses qui, ? mon avis, sont extr?mement importantes et on
n'a pas dit dans cette mailing list, mais qu'on a dit en session
pl?ni?re. 
En particulier, pendant la derni?re session pl?ni?re, la discussion
(m?me si elle ?tait affect?e par les ?v?nements tr?s ?motifs des
sessions pr?c?dentes) ?tait tr?s constructive et bien focalis?e.
Presque tout le monde a exprim? ce qui suit:
- le fonctionnement des pl?ni?res e du Bureau manque de transparence;
- le fonctionnement de la CS@WSIS manque de participation
d?mocratique.

Alors on nous a dit que le Bureau va r?diger une proposition de r?gles
et proc?dures ? discuter dans cette mailing liste et qui seront
propos?es ? la session pl?ni?re pendant le prochain prepcom. 
Ca a ?t? tr?s appr?ci?.

Je pense que le Bureau devrait considerer tr?s s?rieusement les
indications qui ont ?merg? pendant le session pl?ni?re et les nouvelles
r?gles et proc?dures devraient ?tre profond?ment inspir?es par les
principes de:
1 - transparence
2 - participation d?mocratique.
Selon ceci, je pense que (mais ce ne sont que des exemples): 
1 - aucun document ou decision ne devrait pas ?tre approv? sans
avoir ?tre rendu disponible ? la session pl?ni?re ? 
l'avance; 
2 - le r?le central de la session pl?ni?re devrait ?tre
r?affirm?, 
contre n'importe quelle tentative de "vider" ses pouvoirs de 
d?cision et de pr?-fabriquer de d?cisions ailleurs;
- on devrait permettre ? ceux qui sont loin de parteciper dans 
le processus d?cisionnel (par l'Internet). 

Je pense que CS@WSIS n'a aucune autre option que celle d'aller dans
cette direction. 

Marco Ciurcina
Hipatia

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