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Those are rough notes, sorry for misspellings.<BR>
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<B>1 - Additions to the agenda<BR>
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- Bureau meetings are not closed but open to any observers<BR>
- examine the status of document B : "remarks from observers" : who has it formulated ? Who can we have input in it ?<BR>
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<B>2 - Clarification on meetings<BR>
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<FONT FACE="Times New Roman">-</FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"> </FONT><FONT FACE="Times">9 h/ 10 h : Civil society Plenary. Room 2.<BR>
includes report form yesterday's activities<BR>
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</FONT><FONT FACE="Times New Roman">-</FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"> </FONT><FONT FACE="Times">14 h/ 15 h 30 : Civil society Bureau (opened meeting). Room 14, Bonvin building.<BR>
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</FONT><FONT FACE="Times New Roman">-</FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"> </FONT><FONT FACE="Times">14 h/ 15 h 30 : Civil society drafting group. Room A 12<BR>
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</FONT><FONT FACE="Times New Roman">-</FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"> </FONT><FONT FACE="Times">18 h/19 h : Working group on content and themes. Room 4.<BR>
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</FONT><B>3 - Brief overview of issues discussed by governments on Tuesday<BR>
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<I>Rik Panganiban<BR>
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Governments moving very slowly up to Paragraph 7 (out of 57)<BR>
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Points of contention :<BR>
- right of information and communication => sub group on concepts will discuss this<BR>
- reference to other bodies have gone, like UNESCO<BR>
- what is the knowledge society => discussion whether it should b e replaced or not by information society => specific sub group<BR>
- partnership versus solidarity (Paragraph 6) : only Tunisia wanted to keep it => they will keep both but being reformulated.<BR>
- merging paragraph 7 and 8, following the Mexican proposal<BR>
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=> need for a group to do that monitoring with Rick : Diana Bronson + Jane Johnson are volunteer.<BR>
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The sub groups are generally not open to the public.<BR>
The sub group on concepts gather the following countries : Egypt, Mexico, Salvador, Russia, European union, US, Switzerland.<BR>
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<I>Gert</I> (German coalition of civil society) : possibility to discuss with the European commission during the morning meeting.<BR>
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Question : any possibility to add a new paragraph ?<BR>
=> at least try to defend what has already been written, like 1A, 1C.<BR>
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The general context is that the governments are trying to reduce drastically their own text. So we need more then ever to concentrate on strategic issues.<BR>
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<B>4 - Text from civil society<BR>
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<I>Steve Buckley<BR>
</I>Presentation of the text : sally and bill have done a tremendous among of work behind the scene.<BR>
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Previous steps : <BR>
- end of may amendments by caucuses, <BR>
- decision to work on the basis of the outputs of the caucus.<BR>
- we should now have an extensive involvement in a new text, including new amendments. It has to be started NOW (meetings at 2 o clock every day).<BR>
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the revised version does not include the observers proposals <BR>
=> each caucus should stress on each of the individuals paragraphs, in order to have specific inputs.<BR>
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M. <I>Koven (Media group)<BR>
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We need at least 10 days to comment other ways it is impossible to react.<BR>
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<I>Karen Banks</I> <BR>
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Meryem Marzouki :<BR>
</I>what happened with the paragraph which was controversial ? It has been retrieved after the document was endorsed which is not correct.<BR>
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Internet governance meeting takes place just after this meeting => they will decide what should be written on that global governance issue.<BR>
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5 - Speaking slots for civil society<BR>
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As we have so little time to talk we (each group) should not defend our own specific positions but try to have a broader approach.<BR>
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<I>Renata Bloem (Congo): <BR>
</I>Who can we move on to have the right language in relation with the principles => use our slots for this.<BR>
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<I>Beatriz : academics caucus<BR>
</I>want to insist on following issues : schools, work and employment, education in work<BR>
Divina Meigs will be the speaker.<BR>
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<I>Wolfgang <FONT SIZE="2">Kleinwächter</FONT> : internet governance caucus<BR>
</I>will speak on paragraphs 33 and 34.<BR>
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<I>Véronique Kleck : cities and local authorities.<BR>
</I>would like a spot on Wednesday to take the opportunity of the attendance of mayors and other elected people => they will support the general text of the civil society.<BR>
Ready to leave the floor, would speak only if it is useful in terms of efficiency to use the weight of elected people to support the general civil society text.<BR>
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<I>Media caucus<BR>
</I>main stream media should be able to express their point of view. => the press needs a slot !<BR>
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<I>Veni markovski<BR>
</I>Tomorrow is the last day to talk about the draft declaration => speak on point 34.<BR>
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<I>Francis Muguet : patents, softwares... caucus<BR>
</I>wants a slot on Wednesday because the French ministry for research will be attending. Give the floor also to trichard Stallman.<BR>
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<I>Youth caucus</I> <BR>
want a slot, to insist on education, can also speak on the action plan.<BR>
suggesting that youth + academics + ICFTY could develop a text together.<BR>
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<I>Richard Stallman<BR>
</I>wants to speak on Wednesday on free software + patent issues.<BR>
question of sovereignty and independence of a country.<BR>
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<I>Disability working group want to speak on Thursday.<BR>
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<I>Birgita</I> : postpone to thirsday.<BR>
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<I>Hervé Le Crosnier<BR>
</I>We should answer 4 main issues which have been addressed by the governments :<BR>
- right to communicate<BR>
- Intellectual property (the international chamber of commerce want it to be stuck in the WIPO)<BR>
- linguistic diversity (some governments want to forbid any regulation which could protect a specific language)<BR>
- free software<BR>
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<I>Myriem<BR>
</I>A fifth main issue : We need to stress the fact the human rights are at risks and that we should defend.<BR>
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<I>Conclusions</I> : <BR>
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<I>Wednesday<BR>
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- gender 5 minutes (include youth issues)<BR>
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- trade unions/labor 3 minutes (include youth issues)<BR>
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- FS + copy rights trade marks, patents 3 minutes => Richard Stallman<BR>
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- Human rights + right to communicate + right to cultural diversity 3 minutes => Diana Bronson<BR>
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- Governance issues, 3 minutes => ?<BR>
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- scientific contents - information 3 minutes => Francis<BR>
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<I>Thursday<BR>
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- media, 3 minutes => webforce<BR>
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- disable people, 3 minutes => ?<BR>
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- education , 3 minutes => Divina<BR>
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- youth, 3 minutes => ?<BR>
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Every person should minute themselves.<BR>
Every one should have its presentation written. 3 minutes max.<BR>
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