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We at eCommons/agora and our sister entity byDesign eLab know that many
many people in the civil society space neither like nor use the web. They
prefer email.<br>
It seems to me best practice to: <br>
1. always use a clear subject heading and brief summary of who what where
when why at top of any message.<br>
2. always include documents of reasonable length in the body of the
message ( a judgement call), and at the top of message provide a link to
a web site where document lives, if one is available. Attachments should
be avoided. Some of us do not open them.<br>
3. also do as Robert suggests below, where practical<br>
4. make better use of the many resources around if you do not have web
space of your own.<br><br>
Robert points to his sites below.<br>
Some of us are signed up to the wsis-online site but you cannot post
without an intermediary.<br>
At wsis.ecommons.ca or smsi.agora-electronique.ca you can post your own
documents, and then reference them for others by pointing to a url. Some
list members are signed in there, and we welcome more. It is so easy to
use.<br><br>
We have volunteers who keep things updated or help out.<br>
We also have on there (thanks to the open source platform drupal, which
we are experimenting with) an email notification system, so if someone
replies to you or posts to an area you are interested in, you can get
email notification and do not need to keep checking on the web
site.<br>
We have rss enabled, which is a syndication system, however it seems that
others do not have this yet, so it is hard to make the Canadian-based
civil society site of sites we are aiming for, where we could feature
updates from wsis-online for instance, or for robert's or andy carvin's
sites. <br><br>
This approach would meet the needs of both constituencies, those who
prefer the web and those who prefer email.<br>
The issue of open or proprietary platforms seems to me secondary here.
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Liss J<br><br>
PS Good timing on this topic as we shall be working on the updates on our
project next week.<br><br>
avec l'aide de babel-fish:<br><br>
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<div align="center">Nous à eCommons/agora et à notre eLab byDesign savons
que beaucoup de gens dans la société civile espace ni aiment ni employons
le web. Ils et elles préfèrent le couriel. Ce semble à moi la meilleure
pratique : <br>
1. employez toujours un declaration clair dans the sujet et donnez un
bref sommaire de qui ce qui où quand pourquoi au sommet de tout message.
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2. incluez toujours les documents de la longueur raisonnable dans le
corps du message (un appel de jugement), et au dessus du message
fournissez un lien à un site Web où le document vit, si on est
disponible. Des attachements devraient être évités. Certains d'entre nous
ne les ouvrent pas. <br>
3. faites également comme Robert suggère ci-dessous, où meilleure
utilisation pratique de <br>
4. marques des nombreuses ressources autour si vous n'avez pas l'espace
de web de vos propres. <br><br>
Points de Robert à ses emplacements ci-dessous. <br>
Certains d'entre nous sont enregistrés à l'emplacement wsis-en ligne mais
vous ne pouvez pas signaler sans intermédiaire. <br>
À wsis.ecommons.ca ou à smsi.agora-electronique.ca vous pouvez signaler
vos propres documents, et puis les mettez en référence pour d'autres par
le pointage à un URL. <br>
Quelques membres de cette liste sont connectés là, et nous faisons bon
accueil à plus. Il est si facile d'employer. <br>
Nous avons des volontaires qui maintiennent des choses mises à jour ou
aidons dehors. Nous avons également sur là (grâce à la plateforme ouverte
de source drupal, avec laquelle nous expérimentons) un système d'avis de
courriel, ainsi si quelqu'un répond vous ou aux poteaux à un secteur que
vous vous intéressez, et vous pouvez obtenir l'avis de courriel et n'avez
pas besoin de continuer à vérifier le site Web. <br><br>
Nous faisons permettre des rss, qui est un système de syndication,
toutefois il semble que d'autres n'ont pas ceci encore, ainsi il est
difficile de faire l'etoile pour la société civile que nous envisons, où
nous pourrions comporter des mises à jour d'wsis-en ligne par exemple, ou
pour le site de robert ou de andy carvin. <br>
Cette approche satisferait les besoins des deux communautés, ceux qui
préfèrent le Net et ceux qui préfèrent le courriel. La question des
plateformes ouvertes ou de propriété semble à moi secondaire ici.
<br><br>
Liss J <br>
Bonne synchronisation sur cette matière car nous travaillerons sur les
mises à jour et notre projet la semaine prochaine.<br>
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LJ<br><br>
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At 11:44 AM 02/07/2004, Robert Guerra wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>At 12:28 PM -0300 7/2/04, Beatriz
Busaniche wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><br>
Bus could we please! avoid .doc documents in this mailing list?<br>
Pero podríamos por favor evitar los documentos .doc en esta lista
de<br>
correos?</blockquote><br>
I don't want to get into a discussion about the pro's and con's of one
particular document format or another. So instead, let me come up with
two suggested policies for the list in regards to
documents:<br><br>
regards,<br><br>
Robert<br><br>
<br>
**** Suggested List policies ****<br><br>
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(1) To reduce bandwidth - Policy on how to share/send files ...<br><br>
Wherever possible, documents should not be attached - but instead placed
on a site where people can fetch them.<br><br>
If there's no central repository where CS has a copy of it's documents -
then we should have one...<br><br>
I'm more than happy to offer space on the existing WSIS related wiki and
file directory that i have to be used by anyone here. URL is -
<a href="http://cms.privaterra.org/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=7" eudora="autourl">http://cms.privaterra.org/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=7</a><br><br>
(2) To recognize we all use different OS platforms - Policy on file
formats .....<br><br>
let's not enter into a debate as to which one is best, worse or anything
of the kind..(personally, i'd rather have that debate take place
elsewhere, as it's not the exclusive issue affecting us right now)
instead, let's save and share our documents in as platform and
application independent format as possible.<br><br>
Thus, if you can save documents in RTF, HTML or PDF format - then,
please do.<br><br>
If i'm not mistaken, most - if not all - word processing programs have
the option to save in RTF, HTML and/or PDF.<br><br>
(personal note - i like PDF as it allows one to see documents written in
non-european character sets much better, without the need of loading tons
of extra fonts..)<br><br>
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As I may have referred to at the beginning - let's understand the fact
that those of us on this list are using a variety of different platforms,
operating systems and programs to communicate. Let's respect the
individual choice we've all made and be as accommodating as
possible.<br><br>
Let's respect that choice and move on to what's technically required to
make everyone happy. If RTF documents can help - then, let's suggest
(where possible) people use it.<br><br>
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