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All,<br>
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We should approach the issues separately.<br>
<br>
I think the first two could be done quickly and<br>
put into a report and a request. <br>
<br>
The first is simply documenting a technical assessment of the problem.<br>
What is the situation from a technical point of view?<br>
There are a few sub issues here, including (but not limited to):
accessibility, documenting browser/OS compatibility,<br>
identifying the specific underlying markup and scripting language
issues.<br>
<br>
The second and more interesting issue is addressing the engineering and
management processes<br>
that allowed or resulted in this problem. We can jump to well-educated<br>
conclusions around this, but this deserves a proper<br>
investigation. The standards perspective, for example, actually has <br>
several dimensions. At least two deserve our attention:<br>
one is the issue actually determining what policies, standards and
processes<br>
exist within the organizations that produced this system (and the UN as
a whole).<br>
<br>
*** Is it the case that they don't exist at all; they are incomplete;<br>
or they are being ignored?<br>
<br>
The second dimension is the one of defacto or official standards<br>
outside of the organization. Which ones are relevant here? Are they
being used?<br>
Of course, it's possible to have linkages between the two dimensions of
standards.<br>
<br>
The third issue would be one of addressing the political dimension,
which relates more closely to <br>
second issue above.<br>
IMHO, this should be done separately and in context of WSIS.<br>
This is part of what the community informatics language in <br>
CS declaration attempted to address. That is, it relates to<br>
engineering, policy and political dimensions simulatenously.<br>
The first has all but been ignored in WSIS.<br>
<br>
More importantly, this *type* of problem should be covered by the
results of<br>
the WGIG. This is the broader perspective of what IG means that some
people where arguing <br>
for in the first phase. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
WJM<br>
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Robert Guerra wrote:<br>
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<p><font size="2">trying to be productive...</font>
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<p><font size="2">Any way we can communicate the results of our
"tests" to the relevant </font>
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<font size="2">UN Officials so that they can perhaps try to fix it
ASAP. </font>
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<p><font size="2">If they can not, then i would suggest that we start
the process of </font>
<br>
<font size="2">formulating a formal press release to inform the world
about the lack </font>
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<font size="2">of standards..</font>
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<p><font size="2">regards</font>
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<p><font size="2">Robert</font>
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<p><font size="2">At 3:41 PM +0100 1/6/05, Vittorio Bertola wrote:</font>
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<font size="2">>Georg C. F. Greve ha scritto:</font>
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<font size="2">>> rp> Regards to all and Happy Transparent
and Accessible New Year.</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>></font>
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<font size="2">>>I just tried this and had problems actually
getting to the documents,</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>>others have reported similar problems with
non-IE browsers on Windows</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>>and Macintosh. It appears the site is running
on Microsoft and is</font>
<br>
<font size="2">>>using Microsoft-only functions for Javascript.</font>
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