<P>Dear Ngenda</P>
<P>This is a peremptory and unconditional assertion that can only worry/destabilize those (like Djilali and myself) who are the actual "friends of the South" and especially of Africa. We would prefer to leave such an issue to an open debate with the actual African CS organizations, especially "grass-root" ones. I wonder if a part of them share your straight opinion. </P>
<P>Best regards</P>
<P>Jean-Louis Fullsack</P>
<P>CSDPTT <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #ff0000 2px solid">> Message du 05/04/05 19:33<BR>> De : ngenda@bluewin.ch<BR>> A : africa@wsis-cs.org, africa@wsis-cs.org, plenary@wsis-cs.org<BR>> Copie à : wsis-finance@yahoogroupes.fr<BR>> Objet : [WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: [Africa-CS-WSIS]WSIS, Civil Society and Multi-Stakeholderism<BR>> <BR>> Why are you so busy defining yourselves. We are Africans. Private, public<BR>> or whatever. We want to make a difference. That is what counts. The public<BR>> sector can do their diplomacy and the private sector can finance. Where is<BR>> the problem? WE ARE AFRICANS.<BR>> <BR>> Ngenda<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> >-- Original Message --<BR>> >From: djilali benamrane <DBENAMRANE@YAHOO.COM><BR>> >Subject: Re: [Africa-CS-WSIS]WSIS, Civil Society and Multi-Stakeholderism<BR>> >To: africa@wsis-cs.org, plenary@wsis-cs.org<BR>> >Cc: wsis-finance@yahoogroupes.fr<BR>> >Reply-To: africa@wsis-cs.org<BR>> >Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 01:03:46 -0800 (PST)<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >In my point of view, as long as the CS has not find<BR>> >the way to ensure tis financial independancy, the CS<BR>> >will be dependant on ether Governments, or<BR>> >international inter-governmental organisations (IGO)<BR>> >including the UN system, or private sector operators.<BR>> >As long as we are dependant, we do have to identify <BR>> >our alliers... there is a French proverbe saying<BR>> >better to deal with God better than with its<BR>> >servants... it means that we have to try not to be<BR>> >eaten by the private sector if we are not already<BR>> >eaten. My speech will be different when the CS will<BR>> >meet her financial independancy and it is suitable,<BR>> >feasible and possible.<BR>> >De mon point de vue, la soci?t? civile a un lourd<BR>> >handicap celui d'?tre totalement d?pendante<BR>> >financi?rement parlant.<BR>> >Tant que durera cette d?pendance autant d?pendre de<BR>> >dieu plut?t que de ses saints... dieu ici se sont les<BR>> >Gouvernements et le diable anime les op?rateurs du<BR>> >secteur priv?... prenons nos distances et ?vitons<BR>> >d'?tre avaler par ce secteur priv? devastateur.<BR>> >Mon discours sera autre le jour o? nous trouvons la<BR>> >solution de notre autonomie financi?re et cela est<BR>> >possible, faisable et souhaitable.<BR>> >Amiti?s <BR>> >Djilali<BR>> ><BR>> > <BR>> >--- Ad? <ODUTAN1@YAHOO.FR>wrote:<BR>> >> Civil Society and Multi-Stakeholderism:<BR>> >> Discussion emerging about opportunities and strange<BR>> >> bedfellows<BR>> >> <BR>> >> Ralf Bendrath of the Heinrich-B?ll-Foundation has<BR>> >> written this essay <BR>> >> about the internal debates within civil society<BR>> >> whether it should or <BR>> >> shouldn't work more closely with the private sector<BR>> >> and governments in <BR>> >> the WSIS process. While some civil society<BR>> >> representatives advocate a <BR>> >> "multi-stakeholder approach" in which they find ways<BR>> >> of working closely <BR>> >> with these sectors, others argue that civil society<BR>> >> must remain <BR>> >> independent so it may fight against policies that<BR>> >> they<BR>> >> believe are not <BR>> >> in the public interest.<BR>> >> <BR>> >> http://www.worldsummit2003.de/en/web/735.htm<BR>> >> <BR>> >> Ad? BADA<BR>> >> National ACSIS COORDINATOR <BR>> >> FOCAL POINTin BENIN<BR>> >> <BR>> >> <BR>> >> <BR>> >> <BR>> >> <BR>> >> <BR>> >><BR>> >__________________________________________________________________<BR>> >> D?couvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail : 250 Mo d'espace<BR>> >> de stockage pour vos mails ! <BR>> >> Cr?ez votre Yahoo! Mail sur<BR>> >> http://fr.mail.yahoo.com/<BR>> >> _______________________________________________<BR>> >> Africa mailing list<BR>> >> Africa@wsis-cs.org<BR>> >><BR>> >http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/africa<BR>> >> <BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >Djilali Benamrane : dbenamrane@yahoo.com<BR>> >Tel/fax : (227) 75 35 09 BP 11207 - Niamey - Niger<BR>> >T?l/Fax : (331) 01 45 39 77 02 Paris - France<BR>> >Page web sur le SMSI (mecanismes de financement) : en cours de construction<BR>> ><BR>> >Page web sur l'Afrique et la globalisation : http://www.multimania.com/djilalibenamrane/<BR>> >Groupe de discussion: http://www.egroups.com/list/afriqueglobalization<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > <BR>> >__________________________________ <BR>> >Do you Yahoo!? <BR>> >Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. <BR>> >http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250<BR>> >_______________________________________________<BR>> >Africa mailing list<BR>> >Africa@wsis-cs.org<BR>> >http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/africa<BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> Plenary mailing list<BR>> Plenary@wsis-cs.org<BR>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/plenary<BR>> <BR>> </BLOCKQUOTE>