<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Jean-Louis :<BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">Looking at the WSIS phase I site, i too don't see the CS documents we produced. </P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">Even though the document was handed, in person, to the Swiss president - was it officially submitted on behalf of an accredited CS organization? If not, then it might explain it. </P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">Another document that also hasn't been posted at all, anywhere, is the bureau-2-bureau document formulated at PrepCom 2 (Tunis phase). Despite assurances that it would be posted by the WSIS ES, i do not think any NGO that forms part of the CSB officially submitted it. So, despite assurances (again) - a key document is missing (again)</P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">Thus, the point is clear - CS can not just rely on assurances that our contributions will be posted on the "official UN" WSIS website. </P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">The reason I raise the point is that we need to make sure that does not happen again. If CS groups, or an NGO want its documents to be included as an "official" contribution, then the "official" process for document submission has to be followed. The process is defined in Rule # 57 of the rules of procedure of the summit & prepcom. An excerpt is below..</P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">Consequently, my recommendation as member of the CSB is as follows: </P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">If a CS caucus, working group or ad-hoc group wants to have a document appear as an official contribution to the prepcom and/or summit then the document should to be submitted (Email: <B><A href="mailto:wsis-contributions@itu.int">wsis-contributions@itu.int</A></B>) on behalf of one or more ALREADY accredited NGOs. Following this process will enable submitted documents to be listed under "contributions by NGOS" and not under "miscellaneous input" .</P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><B>A possible scenario:</B></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">- At PrepCom 3, references to privacy become weak or disappear all together. The privacy and security working group huddles, reacts, and develops a revised paragraph that not only introduces the dropped references, but also adds a reference to an existing UN instrument that states that govts have already agreed & committed to something..</P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><B>Next steps:</B></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">1. Start lobbying govts for it to be introduced. This includes, but is not limited to asking a government to table/introduce the new paragraph.</P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"> AND</P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">2. As the privacy and security working group is not "an accredited entity" , but instead a "grouping of accredited entities" - it SHOULD ALSO submit it's proposal to the wsis ES (email address above) . How can it do so? Well, one or more of the members of the Working group submit the document "on behalf of" the working group. It's that easy </P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">3. During the next revision of the draft document. New proposals will be listed, as well as the source where the text came from. If CS submitted it, then it gets listed as coming from the group and/or NGO in question. </P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">Is this process new? No. If you look at the documents contributed to PC 3 you will notice that the Internet Governance Caucus has had it's texts and responses submitted on behalf of one or more of the accredited NGOs that are members.</P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">In summary : I can't stress how important it is to follow the procedure that has been established. If we do follow it, we have grounds to launch an official protest. If we don't follow procedure , then all we can do is complain - to no avail.</P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">regards</P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">Robert</P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><B><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;">Rules of procedure - Summit </SPAN></B></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://www.itu.int/dms_pub/itu-s/md/03/wsis/doc/S03-WSIS-DOC-0002!!PDF-E.pdf">http://www.itu.int/dms_pub/itu-s/md/03/wsis/doc/S03-WSIS-DOC-0002!!PDF-E.pdf</A></DIV><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">[snipped]</P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times"><B>Rule 55</B></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times"><B>Representatives of non-governmental organizations, civil society </B></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times"><B>and business sector entities</B></FONT></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>1. Non-governmental organizations, civil society and business sector entities accredited to participate in the Summit may designate representatives to sit as observers at public meetings of the Summit and its committees.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV>2. Upon the invitation of the presiding officer of the body concerned and subject to the approval of that body, such observers may make oral statements on questions in which they have special competence. If the number of requests to speak is too large, the nongovernmental organizations, civil society and business sector entities shall be requested to form themselves into constituencies, such constituencies to speak through spokespersons.</DIV><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">[snipped]</P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times"><B>Rule 57</B></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times"><B>Written statements</B></FONT></DIV><DIV>Written statements submitted by the designated representatives referred to in rules 51 to 56 shall be distributed by the secretariat to all delegations in the quantities and in the language in which the statements are made available to it at the site of the Summit, provided that a statement submitted on behalf of a non-governmental organization or any other actor from civil society or from the business sector is related to the work of the Summit and is on a subject in which the non-governmental organization, the civil society or the business sector entity has a special competence.</DIV><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">regards,</P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">Robert</P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">--</P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">Robert Guerra <<A href="mailto:rguerra@privaterra.org">rguerra@privaterra.org</A>></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">Managing Director, Privaterra <<A href="http://www.privaterra.org">http://www.privaterra.org</A>></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px"><BR></P><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px"> </P><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On 29-Aug-05, at 5:18 AM, Jean-Louis FULLSACK wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P>Dear Elisabeth and all</P><P>The CS "alternative declaration of Geneva" is actually "posted on the official WSIS website", but this doesn't give it the status of an official WSIS document !</P><P>The most compelling proof is that "our" Declaration isn't attached to the two official ones when the latter are sent to official (e.g. the EU) and other entities.</P><P>As far as I remember, this inclusion in the "oficial WSIS doc package" of our Declaration was originally asked for by the CS but not followed by the WSIS Executive Secretariat. I even wonder if the CS Bureau ever did what needed to be done for demanding this inclusion !</P><P>Best regards</P><P>Jean-Louis Fullsack<BR><BR><BR></P></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BODY></HTML>