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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cher Jean Louis,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Je vous remercie de vos commentaires. Nous
pouvons et nous devrions pas parler au nom de tous/toutes sans leur signatures,
ça c'est le principe des interventions auprès de la Commission des Droits
Humains et autres commissions aux Nations Unies et aussi selon les regles de
CONGO. A mon avis, ce principe devrait être appliqué à WSIS
également.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>bien à vous,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Conchita Poncini
(FIFDU) </FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jlfullsack@wanadoo.fr href="mailto:jlfullsack@wanadoo.fr">Jean-Louis
FULLSACK</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=plenary@wsis-cs.org
href="mailto:plenary@wsis-cs.org">plenary@wsis-cs.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=csdptt-smsi@csdptt.org
href="mailto:csdptt-smsi@csdptt.org">csdptt-smsi@csdptt.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 12, 2005 9:36
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [WSIS CS-Plenary] speakers
list transmitted to the ITU</DIV>
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<P>Dear Laina </P>
<P>I do appreciate your kind message and am happy sharing our views on the
essentials of CS in this WSIS process. I fully agree that it is very(Too?)
late now to set up rules for CS bodies since we are in the last "straight
line". But You are right, we need clear rules to be established as to avoid
some misuses of CS working by a couple of seff-proclaimed "leaders". By the
way, the "CS statement" by Bertrand de la Chapelle during the final
intergouvernmental plenary on Friday night was just another
example of these deviations ; i.a. he wordly remembered "CS solidarity
with the CCBI (expressed) in this afternoon press conference"! Is this
"solidarity" our new priority ?</P>
<P>No doubt for Prof. Swaminathan's speech if it was to happen in Tunis,
especially if the indian CS (and I appreciate especially the "Grassroot
initiative" and some Indian fellows such as Parminder) endorses its content or
themes and lets this know to us, the "outside" CS members (I ean outside of
the actual CS speakers nominating process).</P>
<P>Kind regards and once again, many thanks for your support during last
PrepCom. </P>
<P>Jean-Louis Fullsack</P>
<P>CSDPTT</P>
<P>NB : I'll consider your suggestion for more involving myself in the WG on
Working Methods (in fact I attended two meetings of this WG during
PC3. I'm aware of the importance of its work, even if it's now too late
for the WSIS process itself. But this would be quite different if there is a
follow-up process.... <BR><BR><BR><BR></P>
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Message du 12/10/05 03:23<BR>> De : "Laina Raveendran Greene"
<LAINA@GETIT.ORG><BR>> A : plenary@wsis-cs.org<BR>> Copie à : <BR>>
Objet : RE: [WSIS CS-Plenary] speakers list transmitted to the ITU<BR>>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=041401101-12102005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Dear Jean-Louis,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=041401101-12102005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=041401101-12102005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I do understand your frustration and I am pleased to
have met you and heared your interventions in Geneva. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=041401101-12102005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=041401101-12102005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>HAving said that, we all know that CS is not one voice
but many. This is the reason we have caucuses. Again, my point why we should
have had caucuses at the least nominate people they feel spoke for their
group at the least. I also agree with the point raised by another person on
another note that for well known influential people in their field, such as
Prof Swaminathan (the father of the Green Revolution in India and very well
known for his ICT4D projects in India, it would not be wise to get his
speech vetted by an armophous group of peoplewith different voices and who
are people with the time and resource to attend PrepCom. For others, maybe I
agree with your point, especially if they appear to speak for their caucus,
they should at least get the caucus point of view. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=041401101-12102005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=041401101-12102005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I understand that you are frustrated with the current
process, and I share many of your sentiments. I also feel that perhaps we
could give some perspective that we are now in the midst of the
reshaping of a "new form of cooperation" not just with governments, but
amongst CS. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=041401101-12102005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=041401101-12102005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I think you may want to be involved on the mailing
list of the Working Methods group to get us better organised even
though it may appear to be too late. The whole WSIS process has taken NGO
participation in the UN to another level (not as much as we would have
liked) and we should build upon it. Much ofwhat we learn there could also be
used to build on learnings the Internet community has learnt on how to
create some level of legitimacy, accountability, etc.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=041401101-12102005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=041401101-12102005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I know this does not give you answers but I just
thought we could find a way to tap your points into making the future
better, hopefully. Perhaps even WSIS Tunis.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=041401101-12102005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=041401101-12102005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>LAina</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org
[mailto:plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Jean-Louis
FULLSACK<BR>> <B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 11, 2005 9:09 PM<BR>>
<B>To:</B> plenary@wsis-cs.org<BR>> <B>Subject:</B> Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary]
speakers list transmitted to the ITU<BR>> </FONT><BR>> </DIV>
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<P>> You are fully right Vittorio, and it's time for our
"facilitators" to be aware of our determination. Otherwise, we the CS
deny any speaker to speak in our name and on our behalf and we make our
opinion public </P>
<P>> We are fed up with fiddled public declarations (the "Common CS
plenary and private sector declaration" during PepCom-2 is the best example
of them) and press conferences, as well as with misused speaking slots in
plenaries.</P>
<P>> Jean-Louis Fullsack</P>
<P>> CSDPTT <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
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Message du 11/10/05 19:14<BR>> > De : "Vittorio Bertola"
<VB@BERTOLA.EU.ORG><BR>> > A : plenary@wsis-cs.org<BR>> >
Copie à : <BR>> > Objet : Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] speakers list
transmitted to the ITU<BR>> > <BR>> > [Please note that by
using 'REPLY', your response goes to the entire list. Kindly use
individual addresses for responses intended for specific people]<BR>>
> <BR>> > Click http://wsis.funredes.org/plenary/ to access
automatic translation of this message!<BR>> >
_______________________________________<BR>> > <BR>> > Rik
Panganiban ha scritto:<BR>> > > I would love it if every speaker
put a draft on a wiki, and anyone <BR>> > > could go in and edit
their speech for them, and we could all sign off <BR>> > > on
every speech as coming from "global civil society." But I know <BR>>
> > ourselves and our processes enough to think that this is
unrealistic.<BR>> > > <BR>> > > We're just not a
monolithic entity that can force our will on anyone. <BR>> > >
All we can do is recommend, encourage, cajole and convince.<BR>> >
<BR>> > Well, we could (should?) have asked some commitments to our
speakers <BR>> > before appointing them, but in any case it is the
ITU, not us, that <BR>> > formally chooses them, right?<BR>> >
<BR>> > In any case, we could for example ask all speakers to
release a draft of <BR>> > their intervention by, say, one week
before the Summit, to the Plenary <BR>> > list, so that the drafts
can be commented and they can then incorporate <BR>> > reasonable
suggestions. I think this is a reasonable request, in view of <BR>>
> the role that we are giving them.<BR>> > -- <BR>> > vb.
[Vittorio Bertola - v.bertola [a] bertola.eu.org]<-----<BR>> >
http://bertola.eu.org/ <- Prima o poi...<BR>> >
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