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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Greetings:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Accord with these posts, and reflecting: as
among the three of us and quite possibly others here the different sides
of insurance parity debates is indeed a frequent one laden with
<EM>access</EM> issues, and as it appears the stigma is most frequently
identified with the "treatment" process, and not the funds which so provide,<EM>
what can we do in the ICT world to use the concepts and technologies to lessen
any such onus?</EM> </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This discussion ruch in human rights issues may
indeed blossom at the Summit, but, as well, colloquy before the WSIS
event could as indicated here be quite productive in advance, in some
forum we can advance through notice here to all concerned..</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Best wishes, LDMF.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>For Identification Here:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Comunications Coordination Committee for the United
Nations, Respectful Interfaces Programme/</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>International Disability Caucus: Persons with Pain
International, Coordination of Singular Organizations.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Participant, E. Carll ICT/Health
events.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "Elizabeth Carll, PhD" <</FONT><A
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size=2>ecarll@optonline.net</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: <</FONT><A
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:49 PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: RE: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Shirin Ebadi
Nomination - Deadline for supports</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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_______________________________________<BR>> <BR>> Dear All,<BR>>
<BR>> I am including my expanded response from the plenary list below as it
will<BR>> further clarify.<BR>> <BR>> -----Original
Message-----<BR>> From: Elizabeth Carll, PhD
[mailto:ecarll@optonline.net]<BR>> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:48
PM<BR>> To: </FONT><A href="mailto:plenary@wsis-cs.org"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>plenary@wsis-cs.org</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>> Subject:
RE: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Shirin Ebadi Nomination - Deadline for<BR>>
supports<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Hi Sylvia,<BR>> <BR>> Yes, we have had
this discussion and we appear to have a difference of<BR>> opinion. By
including mental health, which as we have discussed includes<BR>> all people,
not only those with disabilities, it will insure funding and<BR>> resources
via ICT.<BR>> <BR>> While I can understand your concern, in reality, the
allocation of resources<BR>> will be determined by parity in funding
and not by perceived<BR>> discrimination. If it is not included in
documents, it is usually not<BR>> included in funding and in the allocation
of often limited resources.<BR>> <BR>> In fact, according to a recent poll
by the American Psychological<BR>> Association, 87 percent of Americans say
that it is the lack of insurance<BR>> coverage that most keeps them from
seeing a mental health professional, not<BR>> stigma or embarrassment.
The same poll revealed that 85 percent of<BR>> Americans think that health
insurance should cover mental health services.<BR>> <BR>> Please cite the
research which shows that making provisions for parity in<BR>> access to
mental health information and services results in discrimination<BR>> against
people with psychosocial disabilities. I would think quite the<BR>>
opposite.<BR>> <BR>> Elizabeth<BR>> <BR>> Dr. Elizabeth
Carll<BR>> International Society for Traumatic Stress Studies;<BR>> UN NGO
Committee on Mental Health;<BR>> Communications Coordination Committee for
the UN<BR>> <BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: </FONT><A
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[mailto:plenary-admin@wsis-cs.org]On<BR>> Behalf Of Sylvia Caras<BR>>
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:22 PM<BR>> To: </FONT><A
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_______________________________________<BR>> <BR>> At 12:45 PM 10/16/05,
Elizabeth Carll, PhD wrote:<BR>> >Both physical and mental health is a
basic human right, yet often mental<BR>> >health services is viewed as
disconnected from health services.<BR>> <BR>> Elizabeth and I have this
conversation in many places.<BR>> <BR>> Separating out mental health
always results in discrimination against<BR>> people with psychosocial
disabilities. It feels like we, the people for<BR>> whom the right is
urged, don't matter at all.<BR>> <BR>> Sylvia<BR>> <BR>> Sylvia
Caras, PhD<BR>> Information Technology Consultant to the International
Disability Alliance`<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
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