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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=jlfullsack@wanadoo.fr href="mailto:jlfullsack@wanadoo.fr">jlfullsack</A>
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<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=governance@lists.cpsr.org
href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</A> ; <A
title=David_Allen_AB63@post.harvard.edu
href="mailto:David_Allen_AB63@post.harvard.edu">David Allen</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 01, 2008 10:30 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [governance] RE: ITU and ICANN - a loveless forced
marriage</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This statement of the ITU Secretary general is by
far less questionable than a lot of other statements made in this long speach at
the Cairo ICANN meeting. But unfortunately it is'nt complete. He forgot to
mention ITU's responsibilities in that issue. At least in the time-wasting way
of leading the whole post-WSISI process, of which IGF is just one
part.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As for me, I took my time for reading the whole
stuff and found a lot of other, even more questionable statements :
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- Mr Touré was confusing the respective role of ITU
and ICANN, and what's more, their statutes !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- "It (the ITU) is the most inclusive organization
of the UN family". May I recall that I was waiting on the door before the
beginning of the ITU-Unesco chaired WSIS facilitators meeting last september in
Genva. I asked both chairs (Mr Khan and Mr Touré) for being allowed -as a WSIS
accredited membrer of CS- to only sit in the room for listening. Whereas the
Unesco chair agreed with a smile, the ITU refused firmly ! Unless to say I was
angry, having been for more than twenty years an ITU senior expert (in
both development and standardisation sectors). Moreover, nowhere we find a clear
explanation on this "CS inclusiveness" of the ITU : who are the these "CS
members" ? How much do they pay, and on which criteria are they selected ?
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- "But it (WSIS) was the most inclusive Summit
ever". That's not true Mr Touré : the Jo'burg Earth Summit (and the following
Stockholm Summit) was far more and really CS inclusicve, and the whole press,
national, regional and international papers, regularly reported on it. This
wasn't the case of the WSIS, despite desperate attempts of its "communicators"
the fist of which the ITU. <SPAN
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-" <SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-fareast-language: FR; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT
size=2>Our members need to be informed about those things" (Internet of things,
IPv6) "</FONT><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-fareast-language: FR; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT
size=2>And we are doing that. The resolution from the WTSA last week, taken by
our 191 member states and 700 companies, private companies </FONT><SPAN
lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-fareast-language: FR; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT
size=2>, is to study and encourage the implementation of IPv6. I believe this is
a concern for all of us."</FONT> <FONT size=2>OK but, Please, where is the CS in
this process ? We need social and economic impacts to be studied in
relation to new technologies as soon as at the early stage of
their design and their actual impact is is to be
assesed preferably before they are deployed. This applies for both
developed and developing countries (even more stringently in the latter). We
need a more serious and profound job to be done in this field and this isn't the
scope of ITU mandate ! Where are we, the WSIS CS, in this field
? IGF is just one of these paramount issues and is therefore relevant
in the open and urgent
debate. </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
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lang=EN-GB
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lang=EN-GB
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size=2>Wolgang raised the question of CS inclusion in the ITU after this speach.
That was fine. But once Hamadoun Touré had delivered his biased (and partly
false) response, our CS fellow didn't question the ITU Head. It was Ambassador
Karklins who answered him : "<SPAN lang=EN-GB
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size=2>It was very interesting to listen to you. You are on the record,
and I believe that many member states who are listening to you will bring
what you have said to the council in ITU". Thank you, Janis Karklins !</FONT>
<FONT size=2>This is the point the CS participating member(s) had just missed
! </FONT></SPAN> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(</FONT>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=David_Allen_AB63@post.harvard.edu
href="mailto:David_Allen_AB63@post.harvard.edu">David Allen</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=governance@lists.cpsr.org
href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=gov@wsis-gov.org
href="mailto:gov@wsis-gov.org">gov@wsis-gov.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 30, 2008 4:57
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [governance] RE: ITU and ICANN -
a loveless forced marriage</DIV>
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<DIV>At 4:32 PM +1100 11/9/08, Ian Peter wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=#000000>The telling statement from ITU being "I am personally of the
opinion that the IGF is continuously going round in circles and avoiding
issues - it is becoming more and more a waste of time."</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=#000000></FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=#000000>Interested in analysis of how we can avoid
this.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR>One suggestion:</DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/Contributions-Sept_2008/IGF%20multi-stakeholderism%20-%20D%20Allen.pdf">http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/Contributions-Sept_2008/IGF%20multi-s<SPAN></SPAN>takeholderism%20-%20D%20Allen.pdf</A><BR></DIV>
<DIV><snip></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=#000000>My fear here is that the outcomes if IGF doesn't succeed in
addressing the real issues are worse than those ...</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR><snip><BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=#000080>Ian Peter</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Sorry for the delay in responding,</DIV>
<DIV>David</DIV>
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