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Dear Jean Louis and Parminder<br>
<br>
I agree with Jean-Louis, interfacing with the ITU in an official manner
is a difficult and costly operation,<br>
In my experience, it is mostly a problem orginating from the ITU member
states; some representatives of which are<br>
still living a world frozen in time.<br>
With Touré, I am noticing a real effort from ITU staff however, but<br>
ITU is not like UNESCO, member states are very much involved in a very
formal way.<br>
Even in supposedly enlightenned western european countries, there are
some ITU delegates that are not<br>
favourable to CS involvement <br>
<br>
Therefore it is suggested to form an association based in Geneva, or in
a develloping country<br>
with favourable legal regulations called the<br>
"Conference of WSIS concerned Civil Society". ( CWSISCS )<br>
I suggest "concerned", in order to be more open than "accredited", but
yet mentionning<br>
the WSIS.<br>
This association being open to NGOs, as well as to individuals.<br>
The cost of ITU-D ( even more ITU-T) being shared between members.<br>
The CWSISCS role being a purely a conduit for the content of its
members,<br>
and having a say of its own only concerning procedural matters.<br>
<br>
>From exploratory discussions with some ITU staff in their personnal
capacity,<br>
it seems that the idea of an umbrella CS ITU-member would not be
unwelcome,<br>
and would obviate the need of lengthy governemental negotiations. <br>
<br>
In general, concerning the whole WSIS process,<br>
the need for CWSISCS is all the more urgent that CONGO has been
disengaging<br>
itself from the WSIS/IGF process, with the departure of Philippe. <br>
<br>
It is suggested that the role of CWSISCS be not limited to interface
with ITU,<br>
but also ECOSOC, CSTD, and other agencies of the UN system: UNESCO,
UNCTAD, etc..<br>
as others International organizations such as<br>
OECD where there have been points raised by Milton raised recently
about CS interface,<br>
and many other organizations upon development and work of CWSISCS<br>
<br>
All the best<br>
<br>
Francis <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Dear Parminder </font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">The second point you are proposing
seems very accurate for me. The ITU "World Telecommunication Policy
Forum on Telecommunications" is scheduled in April next year. The
"Informal Expert Group" created by a decision of the ITU Council, hold
so far two meetings (last one one week ago in Geneva) for preparing
this event. It is composed of 67 member states represnttativs and of 18
sector members. Unless to say that there are NO CS members in that body
(we are at ITU, folks !).</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">It would be therefore necessary to
establish contacts with this group for submitting it the most relevant
conclusions of the 3rd IGF, as inputs to the World Forum, but only as
far as they are supported by the CS organisations concerned. May be
that an "informal CS working group" on ITU issues (i.a. reforming the
ITU and CS inclusion, role of the ITU in Internet governance) will be
established in the meantime and will be able for submitting some
concrete proposals before this ITU event.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">All the best</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Jean-Louis fullsack</font></div>
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[governance] IGC meeting at the IGF</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Dear All<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">As mentioned earlier, IGC
members attending the IGF will meet today from 1830 to 2030, in Rooms
1.03 and 1.04 combined (HICC 1st floor), the same place where Giganet
meeting is taking is place. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Please let us know if
you want anything in particular to be taken up at the meeting. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">As an IGC member I
propose the following three items for the agenda<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">IGC organizational issues
– elections etc. Also, whether, and if so, how, a funding proposal for
the IGC has to be explored (as discussed earlier on the list)<o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Strategy to engage with
ITU, especially with regard to the forthcoming ITU policy forum. <o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">At IGF, Hyderabad, how to
push the agenda of seeking to have ‘rights and the Internet’ or a
’rights based approach to IG’ as the over-arching theme for IGF, Egypt.<o:p></o:p></span></font>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Pl add other issues you
want to be taken up.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
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