[Telecentres] Sustainability and Scaling-Up Concerns

Fri Oct 8 11:03:03 BST 2004

Stuart

My key issue for scaling up is lack of private sector involvement in ICT 
for poverty reduction.  Profit based models can generate the investment 
required to scale rapidly to reach the many rather than the few - if 
it's any good people will pay for it, look at Coca Cola!

Have a good conference.

Thanks

Toby

Stuart Mathison, FDC wrote:

>e.g. Klaus' recent comments were very insightful - his comments encouraged
>me to post this message, which is a request for input.
>
>I am presenting next week at a conference in Chennai India. Conference is on
>"ICT for Poverty Reduction" and my subject is "sustainability and scaling-up
>concerns". Would anyone on the list like to have their concerns/comments
>raised? If so, send you notes to me and I'll use them if I can.
>
>If you can contribute, please KEEP IT VERY BRIEF, dot points, and I am
>looking to mostly RAISE and DISCUSS ISSUES rather than argue very strongly
>for particular conclusions.
>
>I need comments within the next couple of days.Travelling this evening, but
>have all day to kill tomorrow in Singapore airport, so comments within the
>next 24 hrs would be great.
>
>Apologies for using the list for my own purposes - for this thread, lets
>keep the subject heading as per above, so that those who aren't concerned
>with the thread can easily identify and press the DEL button. How about I
>post a summary message at the end? - you never know, it might form part of
>our "inputs" for WSIS process.
>
>Thanks folks
>
>Stuart
>
>
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>Stuart Mathison
>Program Manager, Information Society & Development
>stuartmathison at fdc.org.au
>The Foundation for Development Cooperation
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>(PO Box 10445 Adelaide St)
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: telecentres-bounces at wsis-cs.org
>[mailto:telecentres-bounces at wsis-cs.org]On Behalf Of
>klaus at chasquinet.org
>Sent: Friday, 8 October 2004 03:51
>To: 'Karin Delgadillo Poepsel'; telecentres at wsis-cs.org; Don Cameron
>Subject: RE: [Telecentres] RE: [Telecentre's] Basic Telecentre Items
>
>
>
>Dear Don
>
>Let me add my 5 cents worth regarding your reply to Karin.
>
>On 7 Oct 2004 at 20:01, Don Cameron wrote:
>
>  
>
>>A difficulty I have in providing input into this question of "What is
>>a Telecentre" is exactly as you suggest; there is no single model.
>>    
>>
>
>There are no telecenter models there are only specific local community based
>telecenter dynamics as real community based telecenters reflects the
>specific needs
>of a community and the individuals that make it up. As every community is
>different
>the telecenter dynamic that develops is different. Only yesterday we where
>sitting
>with some community members and NGO's in the office thinking over a plan for
>the
>implementation of 10 telecenters in a very small region in Ecuador. And
>guess
>what, each community expressed different needs and conditions and
>subsequently
>each telecenter will be different in its implementation, runing and
>functions.
>
>  
>
>>Your post also leads to awareness that my input to date might be
>>construed as suggesting that all Australian Telecentre's are funded
>>and fundamentally the same. As you rightly suggest they are not and my
>>apologies if I gave this impression. Many of our Telecentre's are
>>located in comparatively affluent towns and communities and received
>>start-up funds from Government. A great many others are located in
>>impoverished remote indigenous towns and villages working with the
>>very poor and illiterate. Like your example, many of these remote
>>"Telecentre's" (usually not named as such) do not have computers or
>>telephones other than perhaps a single donated satellite phone and
>>exist with no Government support whatsoever. The reason they lack this
>>support is because they were ineligible for funds lacking as they do
>>in capacity to prove a potential for financial sustainability to Govt
>>grant providers. This was identified by many practitioners as one of
>>the fundamental flaws of our early grant processes - the fact
>>recipients had to prove a capacity for sustainability before any funds
>>would be provided. Those who could not prove this capacity did not
>>receive any support.
>>    
>>
>
>Here we are again on the subject of telecenter sustainability.
>
>I fully agree with Karin that Telecenter sustainability is not just based on
>financial
>sustainability but that the understanding of sustainability in the context
>of
>telecenters has to include social, political, technical, organizational and
>cultural
>sustainability to name just the main ones. All these also have a financial
>value that
>can been determined. Just one simple example: a socially and culturally
>"healthy"
>telecenter has a direct effect on the health of a community. But lets stay
>with the
>Financial sustainability. I confess, I was one of the India Joneses, hunting
>for years
>after the holy grail of financial telecenter sustainability and many have
>seen the
>paper trail of articles I left behind me. In the end I have to say it where
>the
>telecenters that gave us the answer themselves. Those telecenters that
>responded
>to the real development needs of its user community and applied a "holistic"
>definition of sustainability simple survived, whilst those who failed to do
>so died.
>
>Another example here. I recently visited a town where there where two
>telecenters.
>One build up first by a church organization was empty whilst 20 meters down
>the
>road flourished a community telecenter, full of users. What happened?. The
>church
>thought that chat is a dangerous thing ( you can not control with whom the
>kids
>might talk, it could be a protestant :-) and banned it from its
>telecenter,but the
>community has a very high percentage of migrants in the US and Europe. One
>of
>the main needs of this community was to keep in touch with their families
>and
>friends abroad through chat, VoIP, and mail. As the church did not give in
>on that
>point the community decided to put their money together and build up their
>own
>telecenter.  Now the Telecenter is also dealing with the tranfer of goods
>and money
>between North/South/North (in connection with a local credit union) and is
>an main
>factor in the development of small and medium enterprises in the town. The
>telecenter itself is a very profitable community business for the community.
>
>In short, what I think we need to do is NOT to implement telecenters but to
>provide
>adequate training, support structures and the best possible conditions
>(connectivity
>options, rules and regulations and so on) for communities to develop their
>specific
>community telecenters. Community Telecenter Networks like Somos Telecentros
>in
>Latin America also play a vital role in that process because they provide
>the support
>networks that enables the telecenters to be sustainable in every sense. The
>secret
>here is that it is the communities themselves that support other
>communities, and
>they only know what works and what does not. Experience and hands on support
>is
>priceless.
>
>  
>
>>I'm not sure I completely agree that all Telecentre's are just "tools
>>for community" because in many remote communities the Telecentre is
>>the community. These are the type of Telecentre where the facility is
>>often someone's home; where all the planning, management and resources
>>are provided by the community; where gatherings are the community
>>coming together for a common purpose. A tool describes a device or
>>instrument; community describes a group of people associated by
>>interest or purpose. In my experience of remote Telecentre's the term
>>usually describes the people more than the tools or technology - i.e.
>>"We are the Telecentre"; not "Here is the Telecentre". I'm not sure I
>>have properly expressed this culture so I hope my words make sense.
>>    
>>
>
> I still think that telecenters are just the "tool" used by the community
>but the
>community does not define itself through it. "We are the community and we
>are
>using the telecenter to sustain and develop ourselves".
>
>Yours
>
>Klaus
>
>Klaus
>
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