[Values-ethics] proposals to NomCom

Sun Apr 16 00:12:11 BST 2006

Hi  Laina and Max 

Laina, thanks for the clarification . I appreciate that. Clearly I have not been receiving all my emails from IGF and a few other sources.Perhaps this is because I have recently changed my server and have new spam control. If my statements seem too strong ,then I apologize

I am glad to work on the substance of producing something that adds to the body of Knowledge and also contributes to the policy documents . I am also glad to do that as a collective.

I am of the mind set that my contribution in the above manner  is my preference. The list show several candidates. If our names can be sent in as a nomination that would be great. I do not have the time to market or canvas my self but am will to have my name sent in .But we must send some names .

Max do not lose motivation. I too am so heavily involved in too many things.

May I suggest the following. Max can you simply send our two names. If that is OK with you Laina. And see what happens. It seems like this is as far as we are prepared to go

Easter greetings to all

regards
Shaila Rao Mistry
etc

Max Senges <maxsenges at gmail.com> wrote:        v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}           Hi folks, I am in between cities and had a really full week, so please excuse my delayed post.

  To be honest, I do not have the motivation to get too involved in the political struggle to select the best people for the NomCom. I did not follow the latest debate on procedure and as such I am willing to volunteer for the caucus but I do not have the time to engage in the inner constitutional/organisational process of civil society as actor.

  I am really interested to work on and discuss the theme of ethics & values in the information society. My priority is to energize this caucus and produce a collection of positions which allows for better grounded discourse and eventually a common position.

  Greetings
  Max 

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  From: values-ethics-admin at wsis-cs.org [mailto:values-ethics-admin at wsis-cs.org] On Behalf Of Shaila Mistry
 Sent: viernes, 14 de abril de 2006 19:37
 To: values-ethics at wsis-cs.org
 Subject: RE: [Values-ethics] proposals to NomCom

    Max 

    Any comments 

    Shaila
 Laina Raveendran Greene <laina at getit.org> wrote:

    Dear Shaila,

  Again for clarification purposes, it is not clear if IGC is accepting names from other caucuses but they are accepting selfnominations. I am also not sure what IGF is accepting, so I will defer here on process and let you and MAx figure this out. I guess I should have made this clear when I first proposed the two names, that I am not in charge of this process and myself do not understand the process. Sorry if I misled you.

  Best,
  Laina

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  From: values-ethics-admin at wsis-cs.org [mailto:values-ethics-admin at wsis-cs.org] On Behalf Of Shaila Mistry
 Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 9:18 AM
 To: values-ethics at wsis-cs.org
 Subject: RE: [Values-ethics] proposals to NomCom
    Hi Liana

    In this case I think we should simply send the names we have.The self nomination is too laborious and also does not indicate representation from a Caucus.If no one else has responded  and we have no response from the co- coordinators , we should send name of those expressing interest.I am suggesting this because the Co- co-ordinators may be out of the country and may not be available to surge forward if necessary. 

    Max  should definitely be one of them and I volunteer my name if it is OK with you and him. Unless you are also interested then we can send your name as well. You will do a fine job. 

    regards

    Shaila

 Laina Raveendran Greene <laina at getit.org> wrote:

    Dear Shaila,

  I think you misunderstood me. There is currently no clarity of process anywhere, not just VE. This is why I forwarded all the other emails from IGC so we can TRY and understand what is happening. 

  I am hoping Max can help us with that, otherwise we will need to resort to self nominations either directly to IGC or IGF. There is no clear process for VE, which is why I suggested at the least finding a way to put names of our co-convenors forward as they have already been "approved" as co-convenors (i.e Liberato and Bahiyyih). Not sure either of them are interested though. No objections to sending on your name and Max...but again I don;t know the process and will not claim or fo not want to be in charge. So in the interest of time, we need either need someone like Max to send in names (which is supported by this list) or we fall back to self-nomination directly to IGC or IGF as most candidates are currently doing within IGC.

  Regards,
  Laina

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  From: values-ethics-admin at wsis-cs.org [mailto:values-ethics-admin at wsis-cs.org] On Behalf Of Shaila Mistry
 Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 10:36 AM
 To: values-ethics at wsis-cs.org
 Subject: RE: [Values-ethics] proposals to NomCom
    Greetings All

 We need to have a  process in the VEC that is transparent. I am dismayed at the communications in the last 24 hours.Clearly communications regarding IGF has not included all members of the VE Caucus.Let us amend that for  the future.Let us have better sharing of information and reporting of IGF proceedings and VE actions.

 Let us also be cautious not perpetuate the paradigm that women are not available or qualified  to do the job. Let us chose women for the reason of their capability not simply that they are women. As an established Technology Entrepreneur in our industry with past careers in Law and in Clinical Psychology, I face this stereotype daily and work  tirelessly to dispel it..

    As some of you know I have just returned recently from the 60 th UN  Commission on the Status of Women in New York  where I Chaired the Caucus on Women and Men and Equal Participation in Decision Making.I  wrote the document after reaching cons us amongst 100 members from 50+ countries .This document was then debated by 191 nations states in CSW General Assembly and adopted.There are huge sections that are exactly the wording that I crafted .

    It is indeed surprising to suddenly receive a statement on nominations along with two names, both of whom are excellent and both of whom I consider to be friends. If we can send three names, kindly consider mine as well. If not then I will withdraw my name in the interest of proceeding with the nominations. I am making this decision because I do not wish Max Senges to withdraw.

    I look forward to more communication and reporting.Let us work towards a better process and together.

    Regards 

    Shaila Rao Mistry

    etc

 Max Senges <maxsenges at gmail.com> wrote:

      Hello all,

    First of all I am happy to report that three authors have confirmed that they would be willing to write a contribution to the compendium we consider to produce and publish in the context of the IGF. 

    Regarding the NomCom: I am grateful for your confidence and I would be interested to participate in the IGF setup process representing the ethics & values caucus. However I am really involved in my research and should we have several candidates I am happy to step aside (ensure swift consensus) and support and collaborate with our nominees. I am also unclear how we want to submit our nominations.

    All the best

    Max

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    From: values-ethics-admin at wsis-cs.org [mailto:values-ethics-admin at wsis-cs.org] On Behalf Of Laina Raveendran Greene
 Sent: miï¿½rcoles, 12 de abril de 2006 18:41
 To: values-ethics at wsis-cs.org
 Subject: RE: [Values-ethics] proposals to NomCom

    Dear Shaila,

    Good point but we should be also more focused on people who are very involved and informed about values and ethics as their agenda, hence my suggestion of Liberato and Max. Also gender caucus will already be giving their list of names. For gender balance and people involved in these issues, we could add Bahiyyih Chauffers and/or perhaps one more from the Brahma Kumaris as well. In any case, if we have no clarity on process of agreeing to names and the process of submitting, it may be that you and the others will have to self-nominate anyway.

    Liberato and Bahiyyih- for sure we should at minimum submit your names as you are the co-convenors so kindly take this up and see how you want to handle this. Max is very involved in IGF discussions and could help serve as our point of contact for submitting names. Process again would help give us some clarity on how to be involved. 

    Max or Liberato- could you help?

    Best,

    Laina

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    From: values-ethics-admin at wsis-cs.org [mailto:values-ethics-admin at wsis-cs..org] On Behalf Of Shaila Mistry
 Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 8:52 AM
 To: values-ethics at wsis-cs.org
 Subject: Re: [Values-ethics] proposals to NomCom

      Greetings Everyone

      I am very pleased  that two names are being proposed and have confidence in them.  However, I would like to ensure that we ourselves do not fall into the trap of gender bias. In this respect I would like to volunteer to serve on the NomCom.I know that most of you are cognizant with my background.

      Please add my name as well.

      Shaila Rao Mistry

 Laina Raveendran Greene <laina at getit.org> wrote: 

      I would like to propose that Max Senges and Liberato be the names we submit forward to NomCom from values and ethics group. If no objections, we should do this ASAP.

      Laina

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