[Values-ethics] proposals to NomCom

Tue Apr 18 16:48:10 BST 2006

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>From: "Laina Raveendran Greene" <laina at getit.org>
>To: <values-ethics at wsis-cs.org>
>Subject: RE: [Values-ethics] proposals to NomCom
>Reply-To: values-ethics at wsis-cs.org
>Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:31:05 -0700
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>Always happy to have people interested in keeping values and ethics on the
>agenda.
> 
>Laina
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>From: values-ethics-admin at wsis-cs.org
>[mailto:values-ethics-admin at wsis-cs.org] On Behalf Of Shaila Mistry
>Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 4:12 PM
>To: values-ethics at wsis-cs.org
>Subject: RE: [Values-ethics] proposals to NomCom
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>Hi  Laina and Max 
>
>Laina, thanks for the clarification . I appreciate that. Clearly I have
not
>been receiving all my emails from IGF and a few other sources.Perhaps this
>is because I have recently changed my server and have new spam control.
If
>my statements seem too strong ,then I apologize
>
>I am glad to work on the substance of producing something that adds to the
>body of Knowledge and also contributes to the policy documents . I am also
>glad to do that as a collective.
>
>I am of the mind set that my contribution in the above manner  is my
>preference. The list show several candidates. If our names can be sent in
>as
>a nomination that would be great. I do not have the time to market or canvas
>my self but am will to have my name sent in .But we must send some names
>.
>
>Max do not lose motivation. I too am so heavily involved in too many things.
>
>May I suggest the following. Max can you simply send our two names. If that
>is OK with you Laina. And see what happens. It seems like this is as far
>as
>we are prepared to go
>
>Easter greetings to all
>
>regards
>Shaila Rao Mistry
>etc
>
>Max Senges <maxsenges at gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>Hi folks, I am in between cities and had a really full week, so please
>excuse my delayed post.
>
>To be honest, I do not have the motivation to get too involved in the
>political struggle to select the best people for the NomCom. I did not
>follow the latest debate on procedure and as such I am willing to volunteer
>for the caucus but I do not have the time to engage in the inner
>constitutional/organisational process of civil society as actor.
>
>I am really interested to work on and discuss the theme of ethics & values
>in the information society. My priority is to energize this caucus and
>produce a collection of positions which allows for better grounded discourse
>and eventually a common position.
>
>Greetings
>Max 
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>From: values-ethics-admin at wsis-cs.org
>[mailto:values-ethics-admin at wsis-cs.org] On Behalf Of Shaila Mistry
>Sent: viernes, 14 de abril de 2006 19:37
>To: values-ethics at wsis-cs.org
>Subject: RE: [Values-ethics] proposals to NomCom
>
>Max 
>Any comments 
>Shaila
>Laina Raveendran Greene <laina at getit.org> wrote:
>
>Dear Shaila,
>
>Again for clarification purposes, it is not clear if IGC is accepting names
>from other caucuses but they are accepting selfnominations. I am also not
>sure what IGF is accepting, so I will defer here on process and let you
and
>MAx figure this out. I guess I should have made this clear when I first
>proposed the two names, that I am not in charge of this process and myself
>do not understand the process. Sorry if I misled you.
>
>Best,
>Laina
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>From: values-ethics-admin at wsis-cs.org
>[mailto:values-ethics-admin at wsis-cs.org] On Behalf Of Shaila Mistry
>Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 9:18 AM
>To: values-ethics at wsis-cs.org
>Subject: RE: [Values-ethics] proposals to NomCom
>Hi Liana
>
>In this case I think we should simply send the names we have.The self
>nomination is too laborious and also does not indicate representation from
>a
>Caucus.If no one else has responded  and we have no response from the co-
>coordinators , we should send name of those expressing interest.I am
>suggesting this because the Co- co-ordinators may be out of the country
and
>may not be available to surge forward if necessary. 
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>Max  should definitely be one of them and I volunteer my name if it is OK
>with you and him. Unless you are also interested then we can send your name
>as well. You will do a fine job. 
>
>regards
>
>Shaila
>
>Laina Raveendran Greene <laina at getit.org> wrote:
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>Dear Shaila,
>
>I think you misunderstood me. There is currently no clarity of process
>anywhere, not just VE.. This is why I forwarded all the other emails from
>IGC so we can TRY and understand what is happening. 
>
>I am hoping Max can help us with that, otherwise we will need to resort
to
>self nominations either directly to IGC or IGF. There is no clear process
>for VE, which is why I suggested at the least finding a way to put names
>of
>our co-convenors forward as they have already been "approved" as
>co-convenors (i.e Liberato and Bahiyyih). Not sure either of them are
>interested though. No objections to sending on your name and Max...but again
>I don;t know the process and will not claim or fo not want to be in charge.
>So in the interest of time, we need either need someone like Max to send
>in
>names (which is supported by this list) or we fall back to self-nomination
>directly to IGC or IGF as most candidates are currently doing within IGC.
>
>Regards,
>Laina
>
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>From: values-ethics-admin at wsis-cs.org
>[mailto:values-ethics-admin at wsis-cs.org] On Behalf Of Shaila Mistry
>Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 10:36 AM
>To: values-ethics at wsis-cs.org
>Subject: RE: [Values-ethics] proposals to NomCom
>Greetings All
>
>We need to have a  process in the VEC that is transparent. I am dismayed
>at
>the communications in the last 24 hours.Clearly communications regarding
>IGF
>has not included all members of the VE Caucus.Let us amend that for  the
>future.Let us have better sharing of information and reporting of IGF
>proceedings and VE actions.
>
>Let us also be cautious not perpetuate the paradigm that women are not
>available or qualified  to do the job. Let us chose women for the reason
>of
>their capability not simply that they are women. As an established
>Technology Entrepreneur in our industry with past careers in Law and in
>Clinical Psychology, I face this stereotype daily and work  tirelessly to
>dispel it..
>
>As some of you know I have just returned recently from the 60 th UN
>Commission on the Status of Women in New York  where I Chaired the Caucus
>on
>Women and Men and Equal Participation in Decision Making.I  wrote the
>document after reaching cons us amongst 100 members from 50+ countries .This
>document was then debated by 191 nations states in CSW General Assembly
and
>adopted.There are huge sections that are exactly the wording that I crafted
>.
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>It is indeed surprising to suddenly receive a statement on nominations along
>with two names, both of whom are excellent and both of whom I consider to
>be
>friends. If we can send three names, kindly consider mine as well. If not
>then I will withdraw my name in the interest of proceeding with the
>nominations. I am making this decision because I do not wish Max Senges
to
>withdraw.
>
>I look forward to more communication and reporting.Let us work towards a
>better process and together.
>
>Regards 
>Shaila Rao Mistry
>etc
>
>Max Senges <maxsenges at gmail.com> wrote:
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>Hello all,
>
>First of all I am happy to report that three authors have confirmed that
>they would be willing to write a contribution to the compendium we consider
>to produce and publish in the context of the IGF. 
>
>Regarding the NomCom: I am grateful for your confidence and I would be
>interested to participate in the IGF setup process representing the ethics
>&
>values caucus. However I am really involved in my research and should we
>have several candidates I am happy to step aside (ensure swift consensus)
>and support and collaborate with our nominees. I am also unclear how we
want
>to submit our nominations.
>
>All the best
>Max
>
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>From: values-ethics-admin at wsis-cs.org
>[mailto:values-ethics-admin at wsis-cs.org] On Behalf Of Laina Raveendran
>Greene
>Sent: miï¿½rcoles, 12 de abril de 2006 18:41
>To: values-ethics at wsis-cs.org
>Subject: RE: [Values-ethics] proposals to NomCom
>
>Dear Shaila,
>
>Good point but we should be also more focused on people who are very
>involved and informed about values and ethics as their agenda, hence my
>suggestion of Liberato and Max. Also gender caucus will already be giving
>their list of names. For gender balance and people involved in these issues,
>we could add Bahiyyih Chauffers and/or perhaps one more from the Brahma
>Kumaris as well. In any case, if we have no clarity on process of agreeing
>to names and the process of submitting, it may be that you and the others
>will have to self-nominate anyway.
>
>Liberato and Bahiyyih- for sure we should at minimum submit your names as
>you are the co-convenors so kindly take this up and see how you want to
>handle this. Max is very involved in IGF discussions and could help serve
>as
>our point of contact for submitting names. Process again would help give
>us
>some clarity on how to be involved. 
>
>Max or Liberato- could you help?
>
>Best,
>Laina
>
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>From: values-ethics-admin at wsis-cs.org
>[mailto:values-ethics-admin at wsis-cs..org] On Behalf Of Shaila Mistry
>Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 8:52 AM
>To: values-ethics at wsis-cs.org
>Subject: Re: [Values-ethics] proposals to NomCom
>Greetings Everyone
>
>I am very pleased  that two names are being proposed and have confidence
>in
>them.  However, I would like to ensure that we ourselves do not fall into
>the trap of gender bias. In this respect I would like to volunteer to serve
>on the NomCom.I know that most of you are cognizant with my background.
>
>Please add my name as well.
>
>Shaila Rao Mistry
>
>
>Laina Raveendran Greene <laina at getit.org> wrote: 
>I would like to propose that Max Senges and Liberato be the names we submit
>forward to NomCom from values and ethics group. If no objections, we should
>do this ASAP.
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>Laina
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