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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I
fully agree with the direction Max is suggesting. A compendium of texts will
help us as we refer to them in future rafting efforts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Levi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=ES style='font-size:8.0pt;color:maroon'>_________________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=ES style='font-size:8.0pt;color:maroon'>REV.
LIBERATO C. BAUTISTA<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span lang=ES style='font-size:8.0pt;color:maroon'>Asst. </span></i><i><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;color:maroon'>Gen. Secretary for United Nations and
International Affairs<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:maroon'>General Board
of Church and Society<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:maroon'>The United <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Methodist</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">Church</st1:PlaceType></st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:maroon'>777 United <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Nations</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">Plaza</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>, 11F<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:maroon'>(cor. 44th <st1:place
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Ave.</st1:address></st1:Street>)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;color:maroon'>New York</span></st1:City><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;color:maroon'>, <st1:State w:st="on">New York</st1:State>
<st1:PostalCode w:st="on">10017</st1:PostalCode></span></st1:place><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;color:maroon'>USA</span></st1:place></st1:country-region><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:maroon'>Tel:
+1.212.682.3633 ext. 3112<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:maroon'>Fax:
+1.212.682.5354<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:maroon'>Web: <a
href="www.umc-gbcs.org/un">www.umc-gbcs.org/un</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:maroon'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:maroon'>The General
Board of Church and Society (GBCS) is the international<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:maroon'>public policy
and social action agency of the worldwide<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:maroon'>United <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Methodist</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">Church</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>. It is headquartered in
Washington D.C.<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:maroon'>with a United
Nations Office in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">New York City</st1:place></st1:City>.
As an international<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:maroon'>non-governmental
organization, GBCS maintains consultative<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:maroon'>status with
the United Nations Economic and Social Council.<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:maroon'>It has UN
representatives in <st1:State w:st="on">New York</st1:State>, <st1:City w:st="on">Geneva</st1:City>
and <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Vienna</st1:place></st1:City>.</span></i><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;color:maroon'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Tahoma;color:windowtext'> values-ethics-admin@wsis-cs.org
[mailto:values-ethics-admin@wsis-cs.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Laina Raveendran
Greene<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 31, 2006 10:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">values-ethics@wsis-cs.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Values-ethics] FW: [governance] Comments and Draft of HR
caucus proposal to IGF</span><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I
tend to agree with you Max that maybe a separate statement may be too late to
coordinate and that it is probably better to consider this issue cross-cutting.
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I
wonder what you think about the statement from the HR caucus below on the
"ethical" components not being relevant. Perhaps we could just
respond along those lines.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Best,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Laina</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Tahoma'> values-ethics-admin@wsis-cs.org
[mailto:values-ethics-admin@wsis-cs.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Max Senges<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 31, 2006 9:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">values-ethics@wsis-cs.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Values-ethics] FW: [governance] Comments and Draft of HR
caucus proposal to IGF</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Hi Laina and all,<br>
<br>
I do not think we can (should) produce a statement in some hours... I do think
that we could and should think about what this caucus wants to contribute to
the IGF?<br>
<br>
>From what I have learned about our constituency and history I understand
that we add a ethical (meta-physical/spiritual) perspective driven by a shared
idealism.<br>
<br>
As such, and as said before, our approach is cross-cutting and paramount to
'practical Internet governance'. Therefore i wonder whether there is interest
to prepare one or a collection of statements outlining different perspectives
on the ethical dimension and the role of values in cyberspace. I think a
collection of texts from the different spiritual and cultural groups would be a
very interesting compendium and would serve two purposes 1) the theme of the
ethical/religious/meta-physical role of cyberspace would be discussed inside
and amongst the participants of the communities that have participants in this
caucus and 2) the result would represent a first overview of the different
perspectives and hence represent a good basis for finding common ground and
program. What do you think?<br>
<br>
I would be motivated to contribute and help coordinate<br>
<br>
my 2 cents<br>
max <br>
<br>
<br>
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Laina Raveendran Greene wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<pre wrap=""> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Dear Max, Liberato and team,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Should the values and ethics caucus also work on a paper submission?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Laina<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>From: <a
href="mailto:governance-bounces@lists.cpsr.org">governance-bounces@lists.cpsr.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>[<a
href="mailto:governance-bounces@lists.cpsr.org">mailto:governance-bounces@lists.cpsr.org</a>] On Behalf Of Meryem Marzouki<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:05 AM<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>To: <a
href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Subject: [governance] Comments and Draft of HR caucus proposal to IGF<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Please find attached a draft proposal, still submitted for comments to the<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>HR caucus. Some changes will probably occur before sending late today the<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>proposal to IGF. Your comments are also welcome (Stephane Bortzmeyer will<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>recognize his idea - and some of his words, with permission:) - of sticking<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>to the basics: IGF should only discuss issues needing mandatory governance).<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I'm sorry to jump in the discussion so late - due to work overload -, but I<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>would really like to draw your attention to the fact that one of the<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>proposals circulated on this list ("internet content filtering and free<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>expression", posted by <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Milton</st1:place></st1:City>), may be _very_ dangerous and<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>counterproductive, though well intentioned.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I do share the idea that there is a need to develop 'ethical' <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>guidelines for Internet companies, when there is no possibility to use<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>legislation/public policy. In fact, I've even myself made this kind of<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>recommendation at a workshop on racism and the internet organized by the<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>OHCHR, as a followup to the <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Durban</st1:place></st1:City> conference (see<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a
href="http://www-polytic.lip6.fr/article.php3?id_article=127">http://www-polytic.lip6.fr/article.php3?id_article=127</a> if interested). I<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>entirely agree that this should be extended to companie that sells filtering<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>software to non democratic governments (cf. the study conducted by the<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>OpenNet Initiative, <a
href="http://">http://</a> <a href="http://www.opennetinitiative.net/">www.opennetinitiative.net/</a>), in the framework of<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>a new set of "Corporate social responsibility" rules (till now, CSR is<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>rather applied to compliance with labor rights) that should be pushed with<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>some friendly (on this issue) governments as a start.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>However, proposing this in the IGF framework will certainly open the way to<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>a definition of "ethical content", "acceptable by all in the whole world"<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>allowed on the Internet. Many people genuinely think that this would be a<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>good idea, because of the problem of competence of jurisdiction, etc.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Remember the Mahomet cartoons ? Ever thought of "harmful content for minors"<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>? Such proposal immediately lead to a list of "inappropriate content" that<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>may be filtered for ethical reasons. And, believe it or not, such lists are<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>not pushed only by governments.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I think we should keep in mind that, while IGF mandate is rather centred on<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>discussing and framing issues, with no actual decisive power, this forum<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>will be considered as a place of negociation for governements, whether we<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>like it or not. We should then be cautious when formulating our proposals.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>This is the reason why the HR caucus proposal doesn't include FoE as a theme<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>by itself. It rather proposes to establish a task force on FoE, privacy and<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>the rule of law (pls read it in the attached proposal).<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Best,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Meryem<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre
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