[Lac] [Fwd: [governance] Minutes from WGIG Consultations Part 2 -
afternoon Sept 20]
Beatriz Busaniche
busaniche at velocom.com.ar
Wed Sep 22 17:26:48 BST 2004
-----Mensaje reenviado-----
From: Bertrand de LA CHAPELLE <lachapelle at openwsis.org>
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
Subject: [governance] Minutes from WGIG Consultations Part 2 - afternoon Sept 20
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 17:35:10 +0200
This is the second part of my minutes of the Geneva meeting.
This is the afternoon of the first day.
Formated text in word attached.
Bertrand
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Pakistan
This is a formal statement on behalf of the Asian Group of
countries.
Nature and scope of internet governance : According to para
49 of the PoA (reference to verify), IG encompasses both
technical and public policy issues.
The PoA also recalls the responsibilty of states and the
role other actors have played
Composition and structure : the Asian group reiterates that
the WGIG should be open-ended.
Working methods and timeline for activities : the WGIG
should submit a preliminary report to the PrepCom2; the
final report should be transmitted before mid-July so that
it can be studied at prepCom3.
The first meeting should be held in early November 2004,
including to address substantive issues.
Netherlands (on behalf of the European Union)
The Tunis phase will consider the final report. A
preliminary report should be presented for PrepCom2 and the
final report produced before PrepCom3.
As for issues to address, the starting point is to build on
the existing internet governance architecture, which today
mainly means the management of internet domain names.
Second point is Internet stability, including spam.
Issues like Data protection, e-Commerce, IPR and digital
divide are already dealt with in existing other fora.
The EU insists on the full and active participation of all
stakeholders.
There is a need for a proper balance between efficiency and
tranparency and openness.
The EU expresses interest in the two-tier approach suggested
by M. Kummer, where a larger group should create a drafting
sub-group. The later should have no more than 40
participants.
No less that the half of them should be governmental or
intergovernmental. The remaining members being used to
provide representation for the civil society and private
sector.
M Zhao, ITU
People tend to present ICANN and ITU as an alternative
choice. This is a wrong approach.
No single entity can take care of all issues of Internet
Governance alone, neither ICANN, nor ITU.
ITU is looking for an efficient international cooperation
with any entity involved in this Internet Governance debate.
In 1999, a MoU was signed between ISOC, IETF, ICANN, W3C to
form the Standard
The cooperation between ITU and IETF is today an excellent
example of cooperation between an intergovernmental
organization and one of the bottom-up bodies created in the
Internet environment.
ITU is formally volunteering to be part of the WGIG.
Venezuela
Missing notes ...........
Economic Commission for Africa
Contribution based on the online consultation conducted by
the ECA.
Africa is not represented in and benefiting from the present
internet governance system.
Issues relevant to Internet Governance are :
• Ethics and norms to protect children and vulnerable
people
• IPR
• Security
• Fraud and cybercrime
• Spam
• Cultural diversity
On reporting and working methods of the WGIG : there should
be a combination of online consultations and face to face
meetings.
The working group should be neither too small nor too large.
A set of appended sub-groups can be envisaged.
The Economic commission for Africa roposes itself as a
convening platform to facilitate consultations.
Unesco
Unesco’s mandate and constitution means it has a strong
interest in this issue.
Freedom of expression, universal access, cultural diversity
and access to education are IG issues.
Unesco calls attention to its recommendation on
multilingualism.
The Internet ecosystem of distributed layers does not
correspond with a call for a single entity in charge of
Internet Governance.
Before we call for a new body, there should be a better
diagnostic on what the gaps are at the moment.
Any internet governance mechanism should be technically
competent, transparent and non partisan.
It is of fundamental importance for anuy internet governance
mechanism to safeguard openness, resist capture or control
and be preserved from excess of government control or
commercial.
Six principles recommended by Unesco :
- openness of the international infrastructure should
be preserved
- no governmental control or censorship
- clear articulation between mechanisms and the
problems they address
- (one item not recorded)
- ensure interoperability
- any global internet management system should be
competent, transparent and non-partisan.
Iran
Iran subscribes to the Pakistan statement. IG should be
defined in a broad manner.
USA
We witness the emergence of a global consensus on the
importance of a multi-stakeholder approach to internet
issues.
We made a contribution listing six main aspects
(contribution available online on the wgig)
Saudi Arabia
The WSIS recognized that Internet Governance needs
reconsideration.
The arab group has set up a task force in the last two
years.
The WGIG should be an open-ended working group and start its
work as soon as possible, without loosing time on procedural
matters.
The WGIG should use all tools and opportunities to make this
work transparent.
We should study internet governance in its positive and
negative aspects.
The ITU has a very rich experience in this field.
WIPO
Challenges to WIPO brought by Internet : recalling the
various actions undertaken by WIPO in the last ten years,
including treaties or exploring open consultation mechanisms
combining online and on site regional consultations.
This initiated the Dispute Resolution system later
implemented in the framework of ICANN.
Open source software also needs copyright protection.
UN ICT Task Force
The Open Forum on Internet Governance in March organized by
the UN ICT TF helped produce a sense of shared purpose.
It is difficult to reach the objective of inclusiveness and
representation in a limited membership group. If this
problem is not addressed, it can hamper the impact and
legitimacy of the WGIG.
Some lessons can be drawn from the UN ICT Task Force
process. It created a network of open-ended working groups
and regional nodes. Progressively, a core group of most
commited and active members developed. It is this core group
that takes the most part in drafting documents and lauching
initiatives.
In the case of the WGIG, two different compementary
processes should be distinguished :
- the political consultation process : presentation of
positions, statements, etc...
- the drafting process, finding language that will
appropriately reflect the positions of the different
stakeholders
The political process needs to be inclusive and open-ended.
The drafting process can be organized in a different, maybe
more limited format, provided it is transparent.
Brazil
The puzzle distributed [by Diplo] shows a five story
building built by a lot of stakeholders. The question is :
how can governments participate in the building of the
Internet.
Brazil was one of the first countries to call for a more
multilateral and democratic governance of the Internet
5 myths should be refuted :
• there is an independent private internet domain
names management body : it is in fact closely connected to
one government and private sector interests;
• the governments have a say through the GAC : in
reality, it only provides an observer status and advisor
role to governments;
• the internationalization of the management of the
internet is a threat to freedom of expression; we believe
something could be built taking lessons from the ILO
tripartite model;
• the risk of stalling innovation : what we need is a
mechanism to safeguard the capacity to innovate
• there is a conspiracy
The WGIG should be so large as to incorporate the two
different schools of thought that emerged during the WSIS :
the one favoring the status quo, the other one looking for a
more democratic architecture.
WGIG should incorporate representatives from these two
schools of thought.
Algeria
The UN should be at the center of this coordination, with
the ITU.
Governments are garanteeing the protection of individual and
civil liberties.
Protection of privacy data is an essential mission.
Algeria is surprised by the intervention of the Unesco
representative that does not seem to represent its member
states.
Algeria supports Pakistan’s intervention on the composition
and methodology of the WGIG.
El Salvador
The WGIG should start working immediately and El Salvador
therefore supports the framework proposed by the UN ICT Task
Force.
Para 1- 48, 49 of the Geneva Declaration should be kept in
mind.
We should evaluate whether something is broken according to
the principles we adopted in the DoP and PoA.
Subsidiarity should be also recognized as a founding
principle.
We should draw a clear distinction between :
- definition of Internet from the technical point of
view
- an approach from a sociological point of view
Both approaches are valid. But we need to know exactly what
we intend to discuss.
Council of Europe
Cybercrime and Human rights in the Information Society are
Internet Governance issues.
The lack of enforceable rules is not only due to the non
territoriality of the Internet.
The Council of Europe recalls the existence of the
Convention on Cybercrime, that is open to ratification by
non CoE countries, some of which halready have done so.
We support the position of the European Union.
The CoE held a multi-stakeholder conference on cybercrime,
welcoming actors from around the world; it demonstrated
national legislations are not in contradiction with the
Convention on Cybercrime.
CoE will launch at the beggining of 2005, an exercise on the
articulation between Human Rights and the Information
Society.
The CoE is ready to help in the organization of regional
consultations, in particular on the issues mentioned above.
ISOC
ISOC provides funding and support for, among others, the
IETF and the IAB.
ISOC considers a broad definition of Internet Governance is
necessary.
There is a distinction between governance of the Internet
and governance of the issues of the Internet.
(some comments not recorded)
Barbados
The kind of open consultations conducted during this two-day
session should be an integral part of the WGIG work.
Developing countries do not compose a single homogenous
group.
Izumi AIZU (Internet Governance Task Force of Japan)
(non recorded comments – to be completed)
Vittorio Bertola, Chairman, ICANN AtLarge
(non recorded comments – to be completed)
Cyberlaws
Nine principles :
- Not take a U-turn for the worse; respect existing
principles
- Work on law and policy existing today should not be
discarded
- Duplication of work needs to be strictly avoided :
different bodies have tried to do similar things without
articulation with one another
- Take into account the neckbreaking pace of technology
- The best of the world’s models need to be picked up
and adapted
- Need for ensuring “effective enforceability” of
legal regimes
- Internet law and policy issues should not divorce
from the rest of the jurisprudence
- Major conflicts of critical legal propositions
should be avoided to guarantee stability of the internet
- Need to balance varied legal principles
CECUA (Confederation of European Computer User Associations)
(please verify if this was the right institution, sound was
bad)
CECUA has produced a Draft Bill of Rights for the Citizens
in the Information Society, outlining the vulnerability of
citizens to spam, fraud, ....
For the average user, the Internet is like the wild west :
good guys and bad ones but no sheriffs. It is the
responsibility of governments to protect their citizens on
the internet.
NRO (Number Resource Organization)
NRO formed by the RIRs.
The RIRs fully support the ICANN model.
In regard to the WGIG, it should be open and inclusive, and
the NRO is vonlunteering to be part of the working group.
Alessandro Pisanti (Vice-Chair ICANN board of Directors)
(some comments not recorded)
Draw lessons from the experience of ICANN : what worked,
what did not.
Be carefull of the use of the expression “private sector”,
which has different meanings in different constituencies.
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