[Mmwg] Re: [governance] Caucus

[Max Senges]

Avri has posted a helpful clarification, on how she defines the 
distinctive roles/scope of the IGC and MMWG, which i thought would be 
relevant here too


Avri Doria wrote:
> i thought the difference was:
>
> - MMWG - focuses on modalities, and only on modalities, in the IGF  
> and Follow up and Implementation mechanisms.  mmwg is open to all  
> individuals and not just civil society and is meant as a  
> multistakeholder group.
>
> - IGC - focuses on all things IG as it wishes.  including modalities  
> if it feels like it.  the IGC is, to my understanding, meant to be a  
> civil society group - even though it has an open list.
>
>
> the mmwg, as originally conceived, if i may be so bold, was not meant  
> to take anything away from the caucus, just a means to have a place  
> where people who like talking process, and more process, and possibly  
> even more process, have a place to talk process all the time without  
>
>
> a.blotting out talk on substantive topics.
>   

if i may add, in my understanding the MMWG is about process and 
structure - not about substancive topics

i guess i am mistaken, but following this classification, the mmwg was 
perfectly on target submitting input on the preparation group.and on the 
IGF setup, I am not so sure whether the question what topics should be 
dealt with in athens is a question for the MMWG (I think it belongs in 
the IGC)

being ESL, i made sure i understand what the scope if the modalities in 
our name actually includes

The Oxford Dictionary says for modality: Those aspects of a thing which 
relate to its mode, or manner or state of being, as distinct from its 
substance or identity; the non-essential aspect or attributes of a 
concept or entity. Also: a particular quality or attribute denoting the 
mode or manner of being of something.

I interpret that as: we might state that the IGF should start small and 
grow, or stay small or whatever other input regarding its being, but not 
what the exact topics are or not

2 cents
max




> On 2 mar 2006, at 20.35, Wolfgang Kleinwächter wrote:
>
>   
>> 2. To serve as a space for discussion of how CS would intervene in  
>> IGF processes.
>>
>> in principle yes, but we have to avoid overlapping with the MMWG.  
>> Probably it will not be easy in practice to explain the differences  
>> between the old caucus and the MMWG. When I explained it to Markus,  
>> he was a little bit confused, and so will others :-(((.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> wolfgang
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