[Mmwg] Re: [governance] Caucus

[Luc Faubert]

...Which pervesely  brings us back to the point Adam was making.

MMWG's way of not dealing with substance could be to propose modalities that do not limit the number of themes the IGF may work on.

- Luc Faubert
ISOC Québec
 

 

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> [mailto:mmwg-bounces at wsis-cs.org] On Behalf Of Max Senges
> Sent: 2 mars 2006 19:09
> To: mmwg at wsis-cs.org
> Subject: [Mmwg] Re: [governance] Caucus
> 
> Avri has posted a helpful clarification, on how she defines 
> the distinctive roles/scope of the IGC and MMWG, which i 
> thought would be relevant here too
> 
> 
> Avri Doria wrote:
> > i thought the difference was:
> >
> > - MMWG - focuses on modalities, and only on modalities, in 
> the IGF and 
> > Follow up and Implementation mechanisms.  mmwg is open to all 
> > individuals and not just civil society and is meant as a 
> > multistakeholder group.
> >
> > - IGC - focuses on all things IG as it wishes.  including 
> modalities 
> > if it feels like it.  the IGC is, to my understanding, 
> meant to be a 
> > civil society group - even though it has an open list.
> >
> >
> > the mmwg, as originally conceived, if i may be so bold, was 
> not meant  
> > to take anything away from the caucus, just a means to have 
> a place  
> > where people who like talking process, and more process, 
> and possibly  
> > even more process, have a place to talk process all the 
> time without  
> >
> >
> > a.blotting out talk on substantive topics.
> >   
> 
> if i may add, in my understanding the MMWG is about process and 
> structure - not about substancive topics
> 
> i guess i am mistaken, but following this classification, the 
> mmwg was 
> perfectly on target submitting input on the preparation 
> group.and on the 
> IGF setup, I am not so sure whether the question what topics 
> should be 
> dealt with in athens is a question for the MMWG (I think it 
> belongs in 
> the IGC)
> 
> being ESL, i made sure i understand what the scope if the 
> modalities in 
> our name actually includes
> 
> The Oxford Dictionary says for modality: Those aspects of a 
> thing which 
> relate to its mode, or manner or state of being, as distinct from its 
> substance or identity; the non-essential aspect or attributes of a 
> concept or entity. Also: a particular quality or attribute 
> denoting the 
> mode or manner of being of something.
> 
> I interpret that as: we might state that the IGF should start 
> small and 
> grow, or stay small or whatever other input regarding its 
> being, but not 
> what the exact topics are or not
> 
> 2 cents
> max
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On 2 mar 2006, at 20.35, Wolfgang Kleinwächter wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> 2. To serve as a space for discussion of how CS would 
> intervene in  
> >> IGF processes.
> >>
> >> in principle yes, but we have to avoid overlapping with the MMWG.  
> >> Probably it will not be easy in practice to explain the 
> differences  
> >> between the old caucus and the MMWG. When I explained it 
> to Markus,  
> >> he was a little bit confused, and so will others :-(((.
> >>
> >> Best
> >>
> >> wolfgang
> >>
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