[Mmwg] Fwd: does this list live?

[Avri Doria]

fpr some reason this did not get through.  While I am following up on =20=

that...

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> Subject: Re: [Mmwg] does this list live?
> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:06:45 +0200
> From: DRAKE William <drake at hei.unige.ch>
> Organization: HEI, Geneva
> To: MMWG <mmwg at wsis-cs.org>
> References: <BCB2E7C0-9D9D-4955-8882-51ADA83A04F9 at acm.org> =20
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> Hi,
>
> Thanks Avri for reminding me of the Meissen equation.  Alas, it =20
> probably
>  sounded better to us there and then than it will here and now; might
> have been the wine. And anyway my issues with the enhanced cooperation
> component and its relation to MS remain.  Most EC has been IGC or PSC
> not MSC (much less MSG), ergo =B7C3 isn't MSG---indeed, some of its =
key
> instanciations have been quite contrary to MSG as promised in the =20
> TA and
> envisioned by the MMWG.
>
> M-O-U-S-E...I can't believe I wrote the last sentence with a straight
> face.  I guess the summer really is over...
>
> Anyway, like Karen, I think the difficulties and challenges weigh more
> heavily in my mind at the moment than elaborating modalities.  One =20
> would
> like to think the latter might be a way around the former, but it's =20=

> not
> clear that the problems are tractable via such niceties.  I'm open to
> persuasion, but a priori it sounds like an invitation to count =20
> angels on
> the head of a pin while the real action is being conducted with rather
> different cutlery.
>
> BD
>
> karen banks wrote:
>> hi
>> i'm kind of interested in practical modalities.. but i think i'm =20
>> more interested in practical difficulties and challenges ;)
>> karen
>> ps.. and MSG makes me think of bad chinese food!
>> At 12:17 28/08/2007, Bertrand de La Chapelle wrote:
>>> Hi Avri,
>>>
>>> I received it. So it works.
>>>
>>> As an explanation of the post-scriptum to me from Avri, we both =20
>>> participated in Wolfgang's Summer School on Internet Governance =20
>>> in Meissen and had interesting exchanges with other actors on the =20=

>>> concept of multi-stakeholder governance or MSG.
>>>
>>> Given the name and purpose of this list, we were wondering if it =20
>>> could be used to hold more focussed discussions on practical =20
>>> modalities for multi-stakeholder processes, particularly of =20
>>> course concerning the IGF.
>>>
>>> Several questions will have to be answered in that context, =20
>>> including the multi-stakeholder nature and structure of the =20
>>> dynamic coalitions (cf. the agenda for the September 3 =20
>>> consultations), the composition and designation of the MAG (or =20
>>> whatever name it takes), the possible elaboration of =20
>>> recommendations, etc...
>>>
>>> Would exploring this potential role be considered useful by the =20
>>> subscribers of the list ?
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Bertrand
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/27/07, Avri Doria <<mailto:avri at acm.org>avri at acm.org> wrote:
>>> and should it live?
>>>
>>> if so, should it do anything?
>>>
>>> if so, what?
>>>
>>> just wondering!
>>>
>>> a.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bertrand, maybe this a place to continue the discussion about MSG
>>> theory (MultiStakeholder Governance) from Meissen.
>>> <http://psg.com/~avri/meissen-formula.html>http://psg.com/~avri/=20
>>> meissen-formula.html for a 'silly' formalism
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