[Mmwg] Fwd: does this list live?
Carlos Afonso
ca at rits.org.br
Tue Aug 28 15:46:44 BST 2007
If you keep doing this, I will post an econometrics-laden paper I had to
do during my PhD purgatory... arghhhh! :)
--c.a.
Avri Doria wrote:
> fpr some reason this did not get through. While I am following up on
> that...
>
> Begin forwarded message:
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>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [Mmwg] does this list live?
>> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:06:45 +0200
>> From: DRAKE William <drake at hei.unige.ch>
>> Organization: HEI, Geneva
>> To: MMWG <mmwg at wsis-cs.org>
>> References: <BCB2E7C0-9D9D-4955-8882-51ADA83A04F9 at acm.org>
>> <954259bd0708280417lfa1647asdd2bd49f8323bced at mail.gmail.com>
>> <20070828111906.2309A1E5C2C at mail.gn.apc.org>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks Avri for reminding me of the Meissen equation. Alas, it probably
>> sounded better to us there and then than it will here and now; might
>> have been the wine. And anyway my issues with the enhanced cooperation
>> component and its relation to MS remain. Most EC has been IGC or PSC
>> not MSC (much less MSG), ergo ∑C3 isn't MSG---indeed, some of its key
>> instanciations have been quite contrary to MSG as promised in the TA and
>> envisioned by the MMWG.
>>
>> M-O-U-S-E...I can't believe I wrote the last sentence with a straight
>> face. I guess the summer really is over...
>>
>> Anyway, like Karen, I think the difficulties and challenges weigh more
>> heavily in my mind at the moment than elaborating modalities. One would
>> like to think the latter might be a way around the former, but it's not
>> clear that the problems are tractable via such niceties. I'm open to
>> persuasion, but a priori it sounds like an invitation to count angels on
>> the head of a pin while the real action is being conducted with rather
>> different cutlery.
>>
>> BD
>>
>> karen banks wrote:
>>> hi
>>> i'm kind of interested in practical modalities.. but i think i'm more
>>> interested in practical difficulties and challenges ;)
>>> karen
>>> ps.. and MSG makes me think of bad chinese food!
>>> At 12:17 28/08/2007, Bertrand de La Chapelle wrote:
>>>> Hi Avri,
>>>>
>>>> I received it. So it works.
>>>>
>>>> As an explanation of the post-scriptum to me from Avri, we both
>>>> participated in Wolfgang's Summer School on Internet Governance in
>>>> Meissen and had interesting exchanges with other actors on the
>>>> concept of multi-stakeholder governance or MSG.
>>>>
>>>> Given the name and purpose of this list, we were wondering if it
>>>> could be used to hold more focussed discussions on practical
>>>> modalities for multi-stakeholder processes, particularly of course
>>>> concerning the IGF.
>>>>
>>>> Several questions will have to be answered in that context,
>>>> including the multi-stakeholder nature and structure of the dynamic
>>>> coalitions (cf. the agenda for the September 3 consultations), the
>>>> composition and designation of the MAG (or whatever name it takes),
>>>> the possible elaboration of recommendations, etc...
>>>>
>>>> Would exploring this potential role be considered useful by the
>>>> subscribers of the list ?
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>> Bertrand
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/27/07, Avri Doria <<mailto:avri at acm.org>avri at acm.org> wrote:
>>>> and should it live?
>>>>
>>>> if so, should it do anything?
>>>>
>>>> if so, what?
>>>>
>>>> just wondering!
>>>>
>>>> a.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bertrand, maybe this a place to continue the discussion about MSG
>>>> theory (MultiStakeholder Governance) from Meissen.
>>>> <http://psg.com/~avri/meissen-formula.html>http://psg.com/~avri/meissen-formula.html
>>>> for a 'silly' formalism
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>>>>
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>>>> the Information Society
>>>> Ministère des Affaires Etrangères / French Ministry of Foreign Affairs
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