[CS Bureau] [Gov 384] Re: UN-GAID strategy council nomination
Dr. Francis MUGUET
muguet at wtis.org
Mon Dec 10 15:05:49 GMT 2007
Dear Philippe
> Francis,
>
> There is a big misunderstanding here. Contrary to what you wrote here,
> Tracey expressed the wish to continue to serve in the GAID Strategy Council.
> See her e-mail attached (she wrote "I do want to remain on the GAID Strategy
> Council", which is clear enough).
>
Yes, indeed my apologies, I did read too quickly her message, and got
confused with her statement concerning her being accounted as
an African. I will send a correcting statement ASAP to Saburland.
Many thanks for your vigilance.
Anyway, I consider that this request to Saburland has been long overdue,
it should have been made a long time ago, and
should not be forced to be made by me in a hasty manner.
So I am ready to accept the blame, but the cause of this blunder is
to be shared.
This illustrates that procedural matters are important, and shall
not be considered in a too hasty manner, otherwise blunder may occur.
Francis
> She however said that it would be hard to consider her as African civil
> society representative since that she has been involved for quite a time in
> a project in Mongolia.
>
> I would be pleased if you could be careful in not speaking on behalf of
> others when you address UN Executives. This has nothing to see with the
> substance of your message and question to Sarbuland.
>
> I'll come back to the GAID Secretariat to correct your mistaken assertion.
>
> Ph
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : bureau-bounces at wsis-cs.org [mailto:bureau-bounces at wsis-cs.org] De la
> part de Dr. Francis MUGUET
> Envoyé : lundi 10 décembre 2007 10:36
> À : Sarbuland Khan
> Cc : bureau wsis; WSIS Civil Soc. WG on Information Networks Governance
> Objet : [CS Bureau] UN-GAID strategy council nomination
>
>
> Dear Sarbuland
>
> Could you inform the Civil Society Bureau and other interested parties,
> who are the departing members of the Civil Society representation at the
> UN-GAID strategy council.<http://www.un-gaid.org/en/council/members>
> so that a Civil Society nomination that would try to balance
> geopolitical and
> gender distribution could be proposed to your kind attention ?
>
> On the list of the WSIS Civil Soc. WG on Information Networks Governance
> ( WSIS-GOV http://wsis-gov.org ) Tracey Naughton has conveyed
> that she does not want to remain on the strategy council.
> There are also informations, to be confirmed, that Astrid Dufborg and
> Kamel Ayadi
> are now within governments and are therefore ineligible to stay in the
> Civil Society representation at the UN-GAID strategy council.
>
> Best regards
>
> Francis Muguet
> CSB member
> WSIS-GOV member
>
> PS List
> 1. Kamel Ayadi, President, World Fed. of Engineering Associations
> (Tunisia)
> 2. Rodrigo Baggio, Executive Director,
> Committee for Democracy in Information Technology
> (Brazil)
> 3. Peter Bruck, President, World Summit Award (Austria)
> 4. Astrid Dufborg, Executive Director, GeSCI
> 5. Hiroshi Kawamura, Daisy Consortium, (Japan)
> 6. Janet Longmore, President, Digital Opportunity Trust (Canada)
> 7. Tracey Naughton, Media Caucus (S. Africa/Australia)
> 8. AHM Bazlur Rahman, CEO, Bangladesh NGOs
> Network for Radio and Communication
> 9. Lynn St. Amour, President/CEO, Internet Society
> 10. Lynn M. Wanyeki, Executive Director, FEMNET (Kenya)
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject:
> [Gov 376] Re: CS Nom Com recommendation for the GAID StrategyCouncil
> From:
> "Tracey Naughton" <tracey at traceynaughton.com>
> Date:
> Sun, 9 Dec 2007 02:10:22 +0100
> To:
> "WSIS CS WG on Information Networks Governance" <gov at wsis-gov.org>
>
> To:
> "WSIS CS WG on Information Networks Governance" <gov at wsis-gov.org>
>
>
> Adam
>
> Thanks for your diligence on this matter. Just to be clear - it can't
> be said anymore that I am an African representative. Whilst my heart
> and soul remains in the African continent, I am currently based in
> Mongolia, running an INGO there that uses a variety of ICTs in
> development efforts. I am immersed in national and regional (central
> Asia) issues. I do want to remain on the GAID Strategy Council.
>
> warms regards to all
>
> Tracey Naughton
>
>
>
> On 07/12/2007, at 2:47 PM, Adam Peake wrote:
>
> At 6:29 PM +0100 12/6/07, Philippe Dam wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The initial problem of this specific nomination process was that
> > the GAID
> > Secretariat has (and still probably has) no idea of the 3-4 civil
> > society
> > seats to be open for rotation.
>
>
> Then it would seem to me the selections made by
> the NomCom may force the secretariat's hand as
> they decide who should rotate out. I imagine the
> secretariat will consider how the NomCom's
> selections will effect the civil society
> membership as a whole.
>
> So long as the current African members do not
> wish to leave (perhaps CONGO could ask them) then
> there really is no problem as far as
> representation of the continent is concerned. 3
> out of 10 pretty good, no? And the diversity
> (expertise, language, region, gender) among
> representatives of the continent seems quite good.
>
> With respect, it seems to me that complaining
> about or trying to alter the NomCom's outcome
> would make civil society look somewhat
> incompetent.
>
> Best,
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
> > Ph
> >
> >
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : gov-bounces at wsis-gov.org [mailto:gov-bounces at wsis-gov.org] De
> > la part
> > de Adam Peake
> > Envoyé : jeudi 6 décembre 2007 17:25
> > À : WSIS CS WG on Information Networks Governance
> > Objet : [Gov 370] Re: CS Nom Com recommendation for the GAID Strategy
> > Council
> >
> > Dear Louis, Delphine:
> >
> > Please excuse my writing in English, and also for
> > my confusion (my poor French reading skills)
> > about your concerns.
> >
> > You were members of a 5 member committee, are you
> > both disappointed with the outcome? 2 out of 5
> > unhappy isn't a good sign.
> >
> > I am confused by the whole process and what you
> > seem to have been trying to achieve. The GAID
> > Strategy Council has about 60 members, 10 from
> > civil society
> > <http://www.un-gaid.org/en/council/tor>. It was
> > agreed at some point that about one-third of the
> > membership in the Strategy Council and Steering
> > Committee should rotate. And that's what the
> > NomCom was doing, finding a new one third.
> >
> > Were you told who was expected to leave the
> > Council, both the civil society members and other
> > stakeholders? When you were making your choices
> > were you able to consider how your choices would
> > affect the overall composition of civil society
> > membership and membership of the committee as a
> > whole?
> >
> > I can well understand you would be upset if there
> > were to be no African members of the Council
> > (though confused as to why you didn't do
> > something about it in the NomCom, 2 from 5?) but
> > that hopefully won't be the case:
> >
> > <http://www.un-gaid.org/en/council/members>
> >
> > Civil Society
> >
> > 1. Kamel Ayadi, President, World Fed. of Engineering Associations
> > (Tunisia)
> > 2. Rodrigo Baggio, Executive Director,
> > Committee for Democracy in Information Technology
> > (Brazil)
> > 3. Peter Bruck, President, World Summit Award (Austria)
> > 4. Astrid Dufborg, Executive Director, GeSCI
> > 5. Hiroshi Kawamura, Daisy Consortium, (Japan)
> > 6. Janet Longmore, President, Digital Opportunity Trust (Canada)
> > 7. Tracey Naughton, Media Caucus (S. Africa/Australia)
> > 8. AHM Bazlur Rahman, CEO, Bangladesh NGOs
> > Network for Radio and Communication
> > 9. Lynn St. Amour, President/CEO, Internet Society
> > 10. Lynn M. Wanyeki, Executive Director, FEMNET (Kenya)
> >
> >
> > If Kamel Ayadi, Tracey Naughton and Lynn M.
> > Wanyeki do not rotate off, then Africa is still
> > adequately represented. More than adequately,
> > actually.
> >
> > It is perhaps interesting you would select a
> > Canadian (one on the Council from civil society
> > now) and someone representing people with
> > disabilities (also represented.) Are you
> > expecting Janet Longmore and Hiroshi Kawamura to
> > leave?
> >
> > Thanks for any advice.
> >
> > Adam
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 4:27 AM +0100 12/6/07, Louis Pouzin wrote:
> >> Chers amis,
> >>
> >> Vous connaissez les choix du NomCom:
> >>
> >> Population Délégués Région
> >>
> >> 327 millions 2 Amérique du Nord anglophone
> >> 433 millions 1 Europe (ouest)
> >> 3,7 milliards 1 Asie (est et sud)
> >> 1 milliard 0 Afrique
> >>
> >> 17 candidats dont 4 femmes.
> >>
> >> 4 choisis, dont 2 hommes et 2 femmes.
> >>
> >> On peut donc dire que la parité des sexes a été
> >> scrupuleusement respectée. On peut même dire que
> >> cette fois les femmes ont eu un net avantage au
> >> regard du nombre de candidates.
> >>
> >> Mais on ne peut pas dire que l'équilibre
> >> géographique a été respecté, loin de là. On peut
> >> aussi constater qu'il était parfaitement
> >> possible de respecter la parité des sexes avec
> >> une déléguée Amérique du Nord et un délégué
> >> africain.
> >>
> >> D'où l'hypothèse que la parité des sexes n'était
> >> pas en fait l'objectif majeur, mais plutôt la
> >> dominance Amérique du Nord anglophone.
> >>
> >> Cette situation, qui fait fi des principes des
> >> Nations Unies, met en évidence le caractère
> >> fallacieux du mécanisme des NomCom. Un choix
> >> aléatoire du NomCom n'est pas représentatif
> >> lorsque le groupe dont on le tire n'est pas
> >> statistiquement équilibré. De plus, un
> >> échantillon réduit à 5 n'a plus aucune propriété
> >> statistique.
> >>
> >> Comme j'étais dans le NomCom, je me permet d'indiquer mes votes:
> >> 1er vote: (sans préférence)
> >> - Boubacar Barry 55 (ENTIS), Guinée
> >> - Md. Shahid Uddin Akbar (SEBA), Bangladesh
> >> - Parminder Jeet Singh (IT for Change), Inde
> >> - Viola Krebs (ICVolunteers), Suisse
> >>
> >> Dans ce premier vote Michael Gurstein (Canada) a
> >> eu 4 votes, et a été retenu dans la sélection
> >> finale. Les candidats ayant eu moins de 2 votes
> >> ont été retirés.
> >>
> >> 2ème vote: (sans préférence)
> >> - Boubacar Barry 55 (ENTIS), Guinée
> >> - Parminder Jeet Singh (IT for Change), Inde
> >> - Viola Krebs (ICVolunteers), Suisse
> >>
> >> Les critères de mes votes étaient:
> >> - il faut au moins une femme
> >> - les gens des pays en développement sont plus
> >> pertinents que ceux des pays développés pour
> >> faire valoir leurs besoins
> >> - à compétence comparable les gens parlant
> >> plusieurs langues sont préférables aux
> >> monolingues
> >>
> >> Il y avait suffisamment de candidats compétents
> >> pour satisfaire ces trois critères.
> >>
> >> À titre personnel je ne verrais pas d'objection
> >> à la publication des débats du NomCom.
> >>
> >> Cordialement
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